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Frank Longo
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"Killers of the Flower Moon (Scorsese, 2023)"
Thu May-18-23 08:46 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0si5bSd6I

That's one hell of a trailer.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
All in.
May 18th 2023
1
I'm not looking at anything else on this. 100% in.
May 18th 2023
2
this looks like its going in the pantheon.
May 19th 2023
3
This looks astonishing.
May 21st 2023
4
Just bought the book actually
May 24th 2023
5
I've heard they're both different.
May 24th 2023
6
Second best movie of the year
Oct 13th 2023
7
Did you borrow this from Roger Ebert's review of Ghandi?
Oct 16th 2023
8
fuck outta here with this shit.
Oct 17th 2023
9
I think it is quite obvious he was joking, man.
Oct 25th 2023
16
      Point still stands
Oct 26th 2023
17
RE: Did you borrow this from Roger Ebert's review of Ghandi?
Nov 18th 2023
22
I was a bit underwhelmed but it's starting to grow on me
Oct 20th 2023
11
      I also feel it could have been slightly condensed
Oct 27th 2023
18
Another banger from the legend.
Oct 20th 2023
10
RE: Another banger from the legend.
Oct 20th 2023
12
Yeah.
Oct 20th 2023
13
      Best part of the whole film.
Oct 20th 2023
14
           well-summarized.
Oct 27th 2023
19
felt very
Oct 27th 2023
20
very disturbing
Oct 23rd 2023
15
Kind of hated this
Nov 17th 2023
21
I really liked the movie but I had the same thoughts/frustrations
Jan 22nd 2024
23
Is that The Whale?
Jan 24th 2024
24
I stopped watching an hour and half in.
Mar 15th 2024
25

bwood
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1. "All in."
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Second most anticipated of the year.

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Ryan M
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2. "I'm not looking at anything else on this. 100% in."
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Reeq
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3. "this looks like its going in the pantheon."
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stravinskian
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4. "This looks astonishing."
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I'm comically excited about the Oppenheimer movie, and I'm not even mad that this is gonna steal every award that I would have otherwise wanted to go to Oppenheimer.

  

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5. "Just bought the book actually"
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Movie looks great.

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bwood
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6. "I've heard they're both different. "
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Those who were at the Cannes premiere said that the book and movie complement each other as they're two different experiences.

Definitely gonna wait to read it after I see the movie

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bwood
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7. "Second best movie of the year"
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Saw this shit yesterday morning.

I love how this and Oppenheimer both have the same message just told in vastly different ways. That white people are evil.

For anyone who's complaining about the 3 and a half hour runtime, go suck a dick. Every minute and moment in this film is vital as this shows a crucial, dark part of American history that's still happening today.

Lily Gladstone has an Oscar on lock. In a movie with towering performances, she stands out.

This is gonna stay with me for a long time. Really can't wait to see it again in IMAX.

Gonna be a sad day when Scorsese da gawd stops making movies.

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8. "Did you borrow this from Roger Ebert's review of Ghandi?"
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"For anyone who's complaining about the 3 and a half hour runtime, go suck a dick."

I feel like I read that in one of his reviews. Either Ghandi or
SCHINDLER'S LIST.



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bwood
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9. "fuck outta here with this shit."
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Miss me with that bullshit

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16. "I think it is quite obvious he was joking, man."
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bwood
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17. "Point still stands "
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22. "RE: Did you borrow this from Roger Ebert's review of Ghandi?"
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>"For anyone who's complaining about the 3 and a half hour
>runtime, go suck a dick."
>
>I feel like I read that in one of his reviews. Either Ghandi
>or
>SCHINDLER'S LIST.


You read Eberts review of Pulp Fiction where he mentions being over the moon regarding a seminal quote from Harvey Keitel

  

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11. "I was a bit underwhelmed but it's starting to grow on me"
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Fri Oct-20-23 11:40 AM by khn

          

>I love how this and Oppenheimer both have the same message
>just told in vastly different ways. That white people are
>evil.

That's interesting - for me, as I was watching KotFM, I was actively thinking at points about Oppenheimer and how much of a cop out it was not to really show or engage with the horror that was experienced by the side that actually got hit with the nukes.

>For anyone who's complaining about the 3 and a half hour
>runtime, go suck a dick. Every minute and moment in this film
>is vital as this shows a crucial, dark part of American
>history that's still happening today.

Maybe history and a little bit more time wrangling with it will prove me wrong but I guess I can go suck a dick then. REALLY felt like you could have shaved 30-60 min off that shit and had a stronger film without betraying any of the themes or characterization.

>Lily Gladstone has an Oscar on lock. In a movie with towering
>performances, she stands out.

She was exceptional. Best performance by Bobby in some time as well.

>Gonna be a sad day when Scorsese da gawd stops making movies.

I'm trying not to think about it.

  

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18. "I also feel it could have been slightly condensed"
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>Maybe history and a little bit more time wrangling with it
>will prove me wrong but I guess I can go suck a dick then.
>REALLY felt like you could have shaved 30-60 min off that shit
>and had a stronger film without betraying any of the themes or
>characterization.

however

I also enjoyed nearly every scene...so I wouldn't know where to start cutting

I'm down for Scorsese to extend his running times during his late stage career, as his most recent picture could always be his last

and the pace was much better than The Irishman

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Frank Longo
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10. "Another banger from the legend."
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The final sequence is the thing that I really want to discuss, but I'm happy to wait until more people see it.

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12. "RE: Another banger from the legend."
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*** SPOILERS ***



























... the old timey true crime radio show?

  

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Frank Longo
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13. "Yeah."
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14. "Best part of the whole film."
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My take: A brilliant means of re-contextualizing the whole thing, and laying bare what is, for me, a kind of gross, reductive, voyeuristic vibe that the True crime scene tends to embody. These pieces that distill all of this visceral, horrific, *real* trauma into neatly-packaged podcasts that we can consume and dispose of fairly mindlessly... yeah. Not a fan*. But I'm old and lame and cynical. But particularly coming on the heels of Hale's "no one really cares" monologue - just brilliant storytelling.

* - Of course, you could argue that any story derived from anything real or historical fits that bill. Maybe it's just the layer of fiction/narrative/whatever that distinguishes it for me. Or, again, I'm just a hater.

Lastly, and apart from all that shit I just typed, I don't know how you *couldn't* smile when Marty took the stage. I can't remember an easter egg like that which I enjoyed so much.

  

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19. "well-summarized."
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>My take: A brilliant means of re-contextualizing the whole
>thing, and laying bare what is, for me, a kind of gross,
>reductive, voyeuristic vibe that the True crime scene tends to
>embody. These pieces that distill all of this visceral,
>horrific, *real* trauma into neatly-packaged podcasts that we
>can consume and dispose of fairly mindlessly... yeah. Not a
>fan*. But I'm old and lame and cynical. But particularly
>coming on the heels of Hale's "no one really cares" monologue
>- just brilliant storytelling.
>
>* - Of course, you could argue that any story derived from
>anything real or historical fits that bill. Maybe it's just
>the layer of fiction/narrative/whatever that distinguishes it
>for me. Or, again, I'm just a hater.
>
>Lastly, and apart from all that shit I just typed, I don't
>know how you *couldn't* smile when Marty took the stage. I
>can't remember an easter egg like that which I enjoyed so
>much.

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20. "felt very"
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Wes Anderson



I dug it, and I really loved how it transitioned to the final drone shot

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15. "very disturbing"
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Mon Oct-23-23 06:06 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

events that have happened in this
country's sh*t history that no one really
talks about. i need to see this again, so
many little things going on.

  

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21. "Kind of hated this"
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That's a long time to spend with uninteresting, stupid, evil pieces of shit.

Also seemed strange how the Osage characters didn't immediately understand how Earnest and William Hale had the most to gain from these murders.I find it hard to believe that their first thought wasn't "well of course their white husbands are behind these killings." Overall, didn't like how passive the Osage were in this depiction. That may have been the point, and even historically accurate, but still felt like a disservice.

Probably bad timing because at the same time I saw this, I was finishing a book by a Native American author centered around Native American characters about somewhat similar themes that was just so much richer.

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23. "I really liked the movie but I had the same thoughts/frustrations"
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Like i felt we needed something more to see from the Osage perspective why they would be this trusting/naive/passive, when the Hales seemed like such obvious scumbags.
It might be that natives were so accustomed to the idea that if whitey wants something they take it by pure force, and slaughter, that the long game of marriage/children, even if it felt suspect, it didn't quite register... or how much do then really want to risk what they have knowing things like black wall street are going on, and William is a "friend".
It was frustrating though


>Also seemed strange how the Osage characters didn't
>immediately understand how Earnest and William Hale had the
>most to gain from these murders.I find it hard to believe that
>their first thought wasn't "well of course their white
>husbands are behind these killings." Overall, didn't like how
>passive the Osage were in this depiction. That may have been
>the point, and even historically accurate, but still felt like
>a disservice.

  

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24. "Is that The Whale?"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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25. "I stopped watching an hour and half in."
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Stylez nailed it with " That's a long time to spend with uninteresting, stupid, evil pieces of shit."

I don't know. I've been trying to figure out if I'd "gone woke" or I would have felt the same way 20 years ago.

I mean, I watched Temple of Doom this week and still enjoyed the heck out of it (though I kinda think that movie was satire in the vein of Starship Troopers making fun of how racist and sexist old Hollywood films were).

Also, I was totally prepared to be into this movie even if it were shaping up to be a white savior movie which I thought it was the first hour in.

Relatedly, I think the storytelling was flawed because Leo's character wasn't revealed to be a baddie until an hour in and in the least dramatic and confusing way. Like I thought he was setting up the guy to steal his car in order to prevent him from killing his in laws.

I dug De Niro as a villain because it presented a different kind of Indian hater but to center the movie on Leo just seemed like an expedious choice just because he was the biggest name attached to the movie, not because his character is at all interesting.

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