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I hope we don't spend 80% of the movie with actors running around in front of green screens.

I'm in otherwise.

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Seriously this looks like LOVE AND THUNDER and MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS.

Just a lot of noise and nonsense. Ant-Man finally foes big and it looks like every single other one of these.

Hope it's good tho.

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It looked bad in GotG2 and it looks bad in this trailer.

Maybe they move this into all animated form instead??

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>I hope we don't spend 80% of the movie with actors running
>around in front of green screens.

It's what their movies *not* set in the Quantum Realm have felt like recently, so this is bound to be the same.

I just really hope the movies look *brighter* at some point-- these movies are increasingly murky-looking and poorly lit. I would imagine a lot of this is because they're increasingly making more and more decisions-- and changes-- in post-production instead of pre. So instead of lighting a scene to match what they know the background will be, they just believe they can decide later what the background will look like and lighten or darken a scene in post accordingly-- and it just never ever looks as good.

Like, the Quantum Realm contains unbound possibilities, I'd like to think they could find a lamp or two and point them toward the actors as they run around the green screen set.

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I understand seeing the Wakanda Forever trailer and being intrigued, but that Ant Man trailer looked like an X Box game. Yuck.

Marvel’s running an assembly line of duds. The CG looks dreadful.

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It will be anything but a "dud", even if *you* don't care for it

This goes back to our prior convo in, I think, the Thor post.

Thor L&T is at 760 million. Ragnorak hit 860. the first hit 450.

These are *massively* successful franchises in their own right.

Ant-Man did 520 and 620, respectively.

These are *ridiculously* successful films, objectively speaking.

They average over half a billion per film, and average around 85 on Rotten Tomatoes- from both fans and critics.

They may not work for you, but these are, again, objectively speaking, hugely successful, and overwhelmingly well received by audiences.

This is another "TI is a loser" and "Kawhi is a bitch" outing, IMO, because your personal opinion is at direct odds with the demonstrable reality.

Am i watching the same trailer as everyone on Twitter? That shit looks TERRIBLE

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

You aren’t crazy.

I dunno

I used to love these movies. I still stan for Civil War and Endgame.

But that trailer is a catastrophe.

Don't sleep on Jonathan Majors.

He's going to own this shit.

IMO I think you're fatigued from these, but I could be wrong.

Also, this is a teaser. The CGI will be up to snuff come opening night.

We'll get a meatier trailer down the line.

But still.... KANG.

This shit is going to rule.

Have hope.

Are you implying that I'm picking on you?

Anyhow, I suggested you'd like Jonathan Majors' Kang, and pointed out that you're objectively, factually wrong in your assessment of these films as "duds".

I'm sorry, but the existence of three other people who aren't crazy about a teaser trailer doesn't exactly change those objective facts.

What's the problem?

We get it, you're a Marvel fanboy.

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

I get it, you're a Tiger Woods fan

^^^that's how stupid you sound.

Do you have a reasonable, intelligent comment?

Or just this empty calorie message board beef?

I'm game for either, just let me know and we can head down the path together.

We commented on how bad the CGI has gotten in Marvel movies/shows and you act like we were talking about your first born son and began writing essays about Marvel movies making money and being the greatest thing ever invented. I didnt even bother to read what you wrote and have zero plans to. Lmao. Marvel's treatment of its cgi teams has become a huge story that you seem to want to ignore. But, do your thing.

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

>We commented on how bad the CGI has gotten in Marvel
>movies/shows and you act like we were talking about your first
>born son

Nope, not even close.

and began writing essays about Marvel movies making
>money

You mean I wrote a contextually accurate response to a contextually false statement?

No wonder you’re pressed😂

Sorry id

>and being the greatest thing ever invented.

you’re using so much hyperbole, it underscores the fact that you don’t have a valid issue here. You wouldn’t need to make up fictional, over the top versions to argue against if you did.

I didnt even
>bother to read what you wrote and have zero plans to.

Liar

>Marvel's treatment of its cgi teams has become a huge story
>that you seem to want to ignore.

^^^^and there it is. You don’t have an issue with how the cgi *looks*

Next time just say you have an issue with the treatment of the cgi team, instead of shitting on their work.

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I already eviscerated your deranged, pyschotic nonsense, chapter & verse

I'm just the avatar for the argument you're having in your weirdo imagination

Bye

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

Please, clarify what this "massive loss" actually is.

To be clear:

Don't have a weird argument in your head, based on some shit you just made up. Address the actual things *I* actually fucking said, not some cartoon you made up to account for the fact that you don't have any *real* argument with anything I *actually* said.

No "derp you acted like we talked bad about your kids"
No "greatest thing ever made" hyperbole
No "disney treats them bad"
No ignoring the context of my statements
No "I'm not reading that" dismissals

You want me to "take a massive marvel shaped L", show your work.

Make the actual case for this "massive" message board "loss" that you REALLY want me to take.

Can you do that, without relying on hyperbole and pure imagination?

It's going to be a hilarious, light- until it isn't- palette cleanser from the weighty Wakanda Forever, while setting up the next slate.

Just like the other two.

And it will make gobs of money in the process.

Oh, and it's going to be beautiful on the right screens.

I'm thinking Dolby for this one.

It's the quantum realm, let that CGI flag fly.

Everyone loves to complain about CGI.

Stay home and watch The Irishman, or whatever.

CGI exists so that movies like this can exist, without a bunch of ridiculous looking puppets.

I'll be there opening night.

Having to accept bad CGI from an expensive movie company stopped being a thing like fifteen years ago.

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"derrpy derp I don't like the cgi on this teaser trailer for a movie that's not even finished yet"

It'll be fine come release day.

Only, you'll still be in here doing this stuffy, dorky, generic "the cgi sucks omg it looks like a cartoon" dork nonsense.

The CGI already looks good.

I'd say it's just you, but there is an entire herd of people who make "omg the cgi sucks" their stock critique of CGI tentpoles

I'm not sure i've ever seen someone get so offended by people's honest opinion of movie visuals. The CGI looks crappy in the trailer. Just like She-Hulk, Thor, and the last handful of Marvel movies since they started screwing over CGI teams. Does Marvel have naked pictures of you? Ive never seen someone so committed to defending a teaser trailer. Fucking loser. Ha

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>I'm not sure i've ever seen someone get so offended by
>people's honest opinion of movie visuals. The CGI looks crappy
>in the trailer. Just like She-Hulk, Thor, and the last handful
>of Marvel movies since they started screwing over CGI teams.
>Does Marvel have naked pictures of you? Ive never seen someone
>so committed to defending a teaser trailer. Fucking loser. Ha

Nope, in fact the vast majority of the overly aggressive energy here is coming from you.

You could have addressed my *actual* thoughts, but instead argued with an iver the top fiction you created in your head.

Doing this “fucking loser” bit doubles down on that.

You’re psychotic. None of this is remotely in line as a response to anything I’ve said. You’ve made a point to escalate things every step of the way. And each time I’ve taken it an extra step, it’s after you raised that bar.

i’m good.

So looking forward to this

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

This is a weird obsession you have

I definitely think I'm getting fatigued. I'm sure it will be funny probably even fun. I'll watch it but not sure if in theaters.

For simply not liking something he LOVES

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"The world is before you and you need not take it or leave it as it was when you came in." - James Baldwin

There was nothing remotely like an “attack” in my Tiger convo- which you pounced on and went out of your way to escalate.

And now you’re way off the rails trying to drag other people into your tantrum.

It’s clear that you have deeper issues with the company itself, don’t have any real, objective criticism of the trailer, and your issues with me exist as scarecrows you created in your head.

I won’t be shocked if you go to other posts to do the same shit now.

So here’s what’s going to happen:

I’m going to stop feeding your unhinged ass.
This is all the attention you’ll get from me.
You can have the final word in each of these posts,

And yet, you’ll proceed keep on with this after that.

Watch

a. I am looking forward to this more than Black Panther.

b. I hope they did some quality descent research on quantum physics and incorporate that into the movie on an obvious level. Even thought it may not be a serious movie.

c. I wish T.I. hadn't messed up and was in the movie.

d. I hope Larry Fishburne is in it.

>b. I hope they did some quality descent research on quantum
>physics and incorporate that into the movie on an obvious
>level. Even thought it may not be a serious movie.

They did not.

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>a. I am looking forward to this more than Black Panther.

Same here. Ever since I heard about Kang going to be in it 2-3 years ago I was more excited for this MCU movie than any other in the near future with Guardians 3 being 2nd since I'm really looking forward to the MCU adaptation of Adam Warlock.

I know Loki ties into this movie but I don't know where all of the other Marvel content I watched fits in.

My daughter was looking at it the other day and I thought

1) huh, that’s pretty cool
2) I don’t wanna watch a lot of this stuff ever again haha

But you’ll see some cool nuances. Like the Groot shorts are not all in sequential order for example, there’s things that happened between even these little Groot stories. And of course Black Widow is a prequel so that appears in the timeline much earlier than Endgame for example. And just in general I was reminded of some clunkers (Iron Man 2, oof). That’s pretty sweet of them to do that.

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Hopefully it is funny.

It's fine. I'm not mad at it.

Works best when Jonathan Majors is on screen. Soars when it's Majors opposite Michelle Pfeiffer.

The shit coming out of Kang's mouth is wild. Like if they casted the wrong actor, this shit would suck point blank.

The two credits scenes had me shrugging.

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How was the story itself?

You looking forward to Secret Invasion, What If Season 2 and Loki Season 2?

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I don't know what's going on with the writing/direction of these mcu films/shows over the last couple years but it's becoming annoying for the most part.

... the film stories were much better than the TV-based shows. And now that the TV product is killing it, the opposite is true.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

It reminded me a lot of Brendan Fraser's Journey to the Center of the Earth, that kinda deal-- big cartoony green-screen shit with a very silly sci-fi fantasy demeanor. A lot of the dialogue felt written on the fly, and the special effects are obviously not good for wide stretches-- and they thought making the whole movie the murkiest, muddiest, that-thing-when-you-take-a-dark-photo-and-lighten-it-in-Instagram-and-it-all-looks-very flattest thing that Marvel's maybe ever made would disguise that. (It doesn't, it makes it worse.)

But it still mostly has the shaggy dog vibe of the first two in tone. The swings into fantasy sci fi are big and goofy (at least by Marvel standards), and I appreciated some of the side characters. The Kang stuff-- and all the stuff setting up future movies-- is mostly unwieldy, but at least Majors is having fun with the performance. And there's actually a scene where two characters fight each other for real, hand to hand, which so rarely happens in trackable fashion in Marvel movies without heavy CG assistance that I appreciated it. Most of the action here is barely trackable (a downgrade for the Ant Man movies imo), but the more it involves punching and kicking instead of blasting CGI rays, the more it seems to have actual stakes.

So, y'know, it's a solid... 2.5 out of 4, 3 out of 5, that kinda deal. Not remotely peak Marvel or anything, but a notch or two above most of the last few. It's very silly in a charming way-- not in a self-aware look-how-quirky-I'm-being way like the last THOR-- and while it gets bogged down in exposition like all of these do, it understands that most of the appeal of these Ant-Man movies is in the sillier shit and allows those moments some space.

And unrelated, but the Guardians 3 trailer is terrific. Granted, I thought the Wakanda Forever trailer was notably better than the final product, but Gunn is a guy who's generally been trustworthy in movies like this. So maybe, if they row back some of the output and focus more on quality visuals and individual voices, they can right the ship, as I feel the last phase sent it drifting scarily close toward becoming an eternal, meaningless, forgettable content churn.

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My brother is in town so we decided to watch it. I enjoyed it. It's fun for sure, no real gripes. CGI seemed par for the course. The side characters are close to Ragnarok level. Found them really funny and surprising.

I just felt like I enjoyed the movie all the way through. I wasn't blown away but not disappointed. I don't feel the stakes are bigger. I'm not getting hyped for what's next anymore. I doubt I come back to this but it was worth watching.

Not really any big reveals either so I wouldn't worry about spoilers.

I did get excited for the Guardians trailer but I kind of feel like Marvel movies aren't "must watch" anymore.

I went in with low expectations because of the critic reviews and the reviews of friends online. But then I found myself enjoying the movie. I thought Majors was great as Kang. I really dislike the girl who plays Cassie now. To me she's always smirking even when she's trying to be serious. Not a fan of her acting. Overall I walked out viewing this as a B-/C+ range MCU flick. Basically a jump off for what's to come.

Solid B, maybe B+ for me.

It was pretty fun.

Got *right* into the action.

I really enjoyed the crazy CG and character designs.

The ants - man, those were so great!!!!

And Darren took the core message of the movie to hear: "It's never too late to stop being a dick!!"

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When Scott is having his post-adventure crisis carrying the ice cream cake, did it not clue in "I should probably call the rest of the team to have them look out for this guy that said he could be in multiple timelines."

Bill Murray gave me the same joy/delight that I had when Jeff Goldblum popped up in Ragnarok.

Jonathan Majors is that nigga.

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>When Scott is having his post-adventure crisis carrying the
>ice cream cake, did it not clue in "I should probably call the
>rest of the team to have them look out for this guy that said
>he could be in multiple timelines."
>
That bothered me as well as Janet holding back on what she knew about Kang.

Fucking lazy ass writing

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… they had intended on ending the movie with Scott and Hope stuck in the Quantum Realm. Which would’ve solved that problem for sure, but wouldn’t have been the light feel-good ending I’m sure Marvel decided they wanted.

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>… they had intended on ending the movie with Scott and Hope
>stuck in the Quantum Realm.

I was honestly shocked when they had them make it out. Felt like a cop out honestly.I assumed everyone would make it back but Scott.

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>I was honestly shocked when they had them make it out. Felt
>like a cop out honestly.I assumed everyone would make it back
>but Scott.

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If Kang could locate the Quantum Beacon then why couldn't Cassie use it to get them out?

They didn't mention anything about a time lapse, but it could have taken years on Earth and seemed that quick in the realm.

I think it's just a comic book ending - and I enjoyed it.

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Should have killed off Hope.

This is fucked up how Letitia got hammered by press on her vax stuff yet Lilly wasn't

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It all seemed a little Truman show-ish to me.
Scott replaying the same walking through the city scene from the beginning, an unsettling, mistimed celebration with a purple and green, Kang-colored theme and a cake that was interestingly disgusting...
Scott's dawning terror quickly being snuffed out into an overly saccharine delusion...am I the only one thinking Kang (or other Kangs) got them in some kind of controlled reality/time loop now?..lol.
I feel like the ending could have been reshot and changed from them being stranded to the longer con of them being allowed out and placed in their own little Matrix as a different form of control.
I admit falling into theory rabbit holes is most of the fun of these movies for me now.

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sucks this was one of the more interesting scenes in the film. kang was cool but this shit was a snoozer.

>Scott replaying the same walking through the city scene from
>the beginning, an unsettling, mistimed celebration with a
>purple and green, Kang-colored theme and a cake that was
>interestingly disgusting...
>Scott's dawning terror quickly being snuffed out into an
>overly saccharine delusion...

Like I don't think the Quantum Realm version is dead. He did say he knew how it all ends already.