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"Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One (Christopher McQuarrie, 20..."


          

https://youtu.be/2m1drlOZSDw

Filmed in IMAX. Can't wait!

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gotta be one of the best looking franchises ever.
Jun 12th 2022
1
Part One?
Jun 12th 2022
2
They threw a train off a bridge and Tom off a mountain
Jun 13th 2022
3
      RE: They threw a train off a bridge and Tom off a mountain
Jun 13th 2022
4
           Written with bad context. The 'you' wasn't specific
Jun 14th 2022
5
                RE: Written with bad context. The 'you' wasn't specific
Jun 14th 2022
7
Crooze gonna rule next 3 summers
Jun 14th 2022
6
I just need another Philip Seymour-Hoffman level villian.
Jun 15th 2022
8
I think Sean Harris has been perfectly good as Solomon Lane
Jun 15th 2022
9
      Honestly, I wasn't mad at Neapolitan Solo as a baddie
Jun 16th 2022
10
      I always held out hope they'd get Denzel. Lol
Jun 17th 2022
11
           My mind just exploded a little on this idea.
Dec 22nd 2022
19
Look at the crazy shit they're doing for this
Dec 20th 2022
12
did you see that top gun commercial they filmed from the m.i. set?
Dec 20th 2022
13
You know I did.
Dec 20th 2022
14
      dude really is on a level unto himself.
Dec 20th 2022
15
My man had a midlife crisis and decided to become Jackie Chan
Dec 20th 2022
16
guy's a f*ckin winner
Dec 20th 2022
17
I'm assuming that the same motorcycle stunt I just saw on Elon's Hellsca...
Dec 20th 2022
18
TBH, I don't want TC doing this type of stuff.
Dec 22nd 2022
20
This shit is convoluted as fuck.
Jun 27th 2023
21
There’s no topping FALLOUT imho
Jun 30th 2023
22
The bike stunt was cooler in the featuette above...
Jun 30th 2023
24
The movie being convoluted and having too many moving parts
Jun 30th 2023
23
The first was easy for me personally.
Jun 30th 2023
25
first movie is top three in the franchise, arguably the best
Jul 01st 2023
26
      yup, 1st may still be the best
Jul 10th 2023
31
      Having retroactively seen most of Brian De Palma's movies
Jul 13th 2023
35
2 hours and 43 minutes
Jul 01st 2023
27
Getting the best reviews of the franchise so far. The Cruise don't miss.
Jul 07th 2023
28
      I like how everyone pretends these reviews
Jul 09th 2023
30
           Paramount felt the need to pay/manipulate 183 critics.
Jul 10th 2023
33
Saw this shit again today with a group of people
Jul 09th 2023
29
Got tickets for tonight (rare Monday IMAX show).
Jul 10th 2023
32
I thought it was pretty darn good. Glad I saw in theater.
Jul 11th 2023
34
I just have to write this because I'm so bummed about it
Jul 13th 2023
36
Look, the action is really fun... but the AI shit is *very* silly.
Jul 13th 2023
37
Serious Westworld S3 vibes here
Jul 13th 2023
41
All this nitpicking I bet it’s still fun to watch
Jul 13th 2023
38
Pretty much
Jul 13th 2023
39
smh @ the AI and crypto/Blockchain stuff
Jul 13th 2023
40
I say this as someone whose out of the loop
Jul 15th 2023
42
That train sequence…man
Jul 15th 2023
43
I'm rewatching them now on Paramount+
Jul 17th 2023
44
Probably my favorite of the McQuarrie films (spoiler warning)
Jul 18th 2023
45
fell asleep three times. way too long
Jul 24th 2023
46
Enjoyed the movie. Weakest villain of the entire series though.
Jul 29th 2023
47
this was shockingly bad. and I've liked nearly all of the M:I films.
Feb 25th 2024
48

Reeq
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1. "gotta be one of the best looking franchises ever."
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these niggas know how to shoot a movie.

  

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2. " Part One?"
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This was a trailer in our Top Gun Imax showing. It was breathtaking. I was satisfied with the trailer and could have left before the TG movie, it seems THAT good lol.

  

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spenzalii
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3. "They threw a train off a bridge and Tom off a mountain"
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What else do you need at that point? Just let me pre-order tickets for both now

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4. "RE: They threw a train off a bridge and Tom off a mountain"
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>What else do you need at that point? Just let me pre-order
>tickets for both now

I dont need shit. its not that I said its lackluster. Im saying 'oh its two parter?"

geeks

  

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spenzalii
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5. "Written with bad context. The 'you' wasn't specific"
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What else could anybody want would have been a better way to word it. No personal shots were meant

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7. "RE: Written with bad context. The 'you' wasn't specific"
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>What else could anybody want would have been a better way to
>word it. No personal shots were meant


ah, got it..I agree too

  

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6. "Crooze gonna rule next 3 summers "
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Gotta be nearing the end of his action movies tho altho Ford still bringing back Indiana and has a lot of years, I'm not too excited to see him back at this point

  

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8. "I just need another Philip Seymour-Hoffman level villian."
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Only downside of these moves (fucking incredible movies) is a lack of classic villains besides MI3 and Hoffman. Was disappointed when Nicholas Hoult had to drop out as the main villain in this one.

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9. "I think Sean Harris has been perfectly good as Solomon Lane"
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I don’t know if a human being can ever pose the kind of threat PSH posed to Ethan Hunt ever again, though. That guy is gonna die falling off the International Space Station and burning up in the atmosphere or something

His greatest enemy is weak joints and the basic nature of the universe at this point

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10. "Honestly, I wasn't mad at Neapolitan Solo as a baddie"
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I mean, Cavill was badly written as a mole, and the whole 'Hunt Is Lane' theory wasn't plausible, but whatever. I'd have no problem if he were back in the sequel, just like I had no problem with Solomon Lane returning in Fallout. But at the same time, Walker/Lark was a bruiser, which isn't exactly the type of person to match Hunt up with.

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11. "I always held out hope they'd get Denzel. Lol"
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Someone of Tom Cruise's star status to match with, since we know Ethan Hunt is going to win in the end. They bring in the big gun actors for Bond villains, im just always surprised MI never went that route. But the movies are still flames.

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19. "My mind just exploded a little on this idea. "
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12. "Look at the crazy shit they're doing for this"
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https://youtu.be/WLtpQpKY7fw

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13. "did you see that top gun commercial they filmed from the m.i. set?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujdJf7nnCM

  

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14. "You know I did."
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Every video this nigga posts, I watch immediately.

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15. "dude really is on a level unto himself."
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16. "My man had a midlife crisis and decided to become Jackie Chan"
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I was kind of underwhelmed with the opening scene stunts in both MI:RN and Fallout because at a certain point the stunt becomes so grand that to the mind it being real or fake doesn't really matter. The plane take-off actually looked crazier in the BTS than on screen.

But real talk him going off the ramp made my stomach drop like I went off with him.

Likewise, I just saw BTS video of him preparing for a skydiving sequence for the upcoming film where he's talking to camera on the side of a helicopter and just leans off and start floating in free fall and it was wary more impressive that the jump to start RN. It's hands-down one of the coolest things I've seen in my life. The choreography to follow-him like that and create the effect is just staggering. I think the fact that it's so intimate and so non-chalant helps ground it. That and the fact he's carrying on casual conversation whereas the jump out the back of the plane might as well have just been a stunt double with cruise's face CGI'd onto him the effect would have been the same if you didn't already know it was Cruise. Knowing it was didn't make the stunt that much cooler viscerally. This hits on a whole different level.

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17. "guy's a f*ckin winner"
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18. "I'm assuming that the same motorcycle stunt I just saw on Elon's Hellsca..."
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If so, the insurance costs for that must equal the GNP for a third world country.

I'm assuming the insurance costs get higher and higher the older he gets.

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20. "TBH, I don't want TC doing this type of stuff. "
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Man why you messing with the franchise?!?! Let others risk their life and limbs!!


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21. "This shit is convoluted as fuck."
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I'm sorry but the plot has too many moving parts and takes some real roundabout ways to get to where it wants to go.

And after FALLOUT, the action and set-pieces are not as good. That whole chase in Paris from FALLOUT is better than what they do here in Rome.

LOLOL at Luthor telling Ethan not to kill the villain cause of Part Two. Also couldn't stop laughing at the villain constantly whipping out knives during the train fight. And unlike Lane and John Lark, the villain didn't have much weight to him.

There's more I want to say, but I'll shut up till this drops.

Henry Czreny's Kittredge has been missed.

Also, seeing the bike jump in the movie was underwhelming. For me. It's more impressive in the behind the scenes than in the actual movie.

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22. "There’s no topping FALLOUT imho"
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>I'm sorry but the plot has too many moving parts and takes
>some real roundabout ways to get to where it wants to go.
>
>And after FALLOUT, the action and set-pieces are not as good.
>That whole chase in Paris from FALLOUT is better than what
>they do here in Rome.
>
>LOLOL at Luthor telling Ethan not to kill the villain cause of
>Part Two. Also couldn't stop laughing at the villain
>constantly whipping out knives during the train fight. And
>unlike Lane and John Lark, the villain didn't have much weight
>to him.
>
>There's more I want to say, but I'll shut up till this drops.
>
>Henry Czreny's Kittredge has been missed.
>
>Also, seeing the bike jump in the movie was underwhelming. For
>me. It's more impressive in the behind the scenes than in the
>actual movie.

  

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24. "The bike stunt was cooler in the featuette above..."
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....than it is in the final movie.

Even this is cooler here: https://youtu.be/XRQTCXZF2vM than it is in the movie.

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23. "The movie being convoluted and having too many moving parts"
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sounds a lot like that very first Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie with Jon Voight and Jean Reno.

It's pretty wild how forgotten that movie has become since the franchise has gotten go ramped up with the increased action and crazy stunt scenes.

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25. "The first was easy for me personally. "
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I can understand why people would find it confusing though.

Basically Ethan's who team is killed. He's blamed for it by Kittredge and the CIA. He finds out Job was the one who betrayed him and killed the team to aquire the NOC list. Job was gonna sell the NOC list to Max, an arms dealer. Ethan gets to Max first and earns her trust by proving she has a fake with a tracking device. Max gives Ethan $10 million and Job's identity if he can deliver the real NOC. That leads to the iconic CIA break-in. Eventually it's revealed that Job is Phelps

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26. "first movie is top three in the franchise, arguably the best"
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and disagree; the plot seems actually spy espionage basic compared to some of the sequels

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31. "yup, 1st may still be the best"
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>and disagree; the plot seems actually spy espionage basic
>compared to some of the sequels

CRUISE running and action have taken the lion's share of effort, making the plots fairly formulaic. Great for popcorn, but not much else. Would be nice if they got back to some of that.

haven't seen the latest yet, but just my general thoughts.

  

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35. "Having retroactively seen most of Brian De Palma's movies"
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The "legendary" "confusing" plot of Mission: Impossible (and I don't mean those as scare quotes - if I weren't obsessed with that movie as a teenager I'd likely still find it baffling) is one of his strongest signatures. When you take the helicopter view of most BDP films they're about really simple psychological ideas of either a phobia or, more often, self-doubt/fear of self expression.


M:I feels so muddy and weird because Ethan quickly can't trust his team, can't trust his outside contacts, lost a team he barely knew, but feels compelled to trust the guy the outside contacts assigned to assign his role within that team while simultaneously rebuilding some of that team and realizing the one guy he trusts might be a conman. But De Palma has as much faith in Ethan as the audience should, so he doesn't allow much doubt in his performance. It's probably the one thing about Ethan after two decades he could claim is identifiably his. Ethan wants to believe, in that movie's case naively, and BDP forces the audience to be naive as well.


As much as I love the McQuarrie movies and what they've done for action movies as a whole, De Palma is the sort of guy that could see that's a story ripe for misdirection and unsatisfying solutions. I wish there were some modern director super jazzed up by all his bullshit, but the best I can come up with is Alex Garland and that doesn't feel close at all. I admit I haven't seen any Ben Wheatley movies but they sometimes sound like they have the right pitch - I dunno.


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27. "2 hours and 43 minutes"
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cmon (c)

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28. "Getting the best reviews of the franchise so far. The Cruise don't miss."
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mission_impossible_dead_reckoning_part_one

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30. "I like how everyone pretends these reviews "
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can't be bought/manipulated/etc....its adorable.


  

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33. "Paramount felt the need to pay/manipulate 183 critics."
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For a movie franchise that has been universally successfully both box office and quality-wise. That's adorably...stupid.

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29. "Saw this shit again today with a group of people "
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Went again with my brother and some mutual friends.

While, I enjoyed it more the second time as a piece of entertainment, my group felt the way I did when I first saw it.


It's flaws are even more glaring this time. The plot is wildly bones bare due to the Part One nature as I realize this is all reliant on Part Two being a banger. Which sucks cause Dune Part One is great on iys own and same with ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE.

We should definitely stop with two part movies.

Seems everyone had the same problem I had with Grace, the runtime, a character choice, and the plot.

But yeah, this as a whole is on the lower end of the franchise so far.

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32. "Got tickets for tonight (rare Monday IMAX show). "
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If it's on Ghost Protocol level, I'm good

I don't expect it to beat Fallout, or even Rogue Syndicate. Multi part movies always suffer on one end of the story no matter how you cut it. As long as Cruise does Cruise things and nothing blatantly jumps the shark I'll enjoy it and wait for the story to wrap up, warts and all.

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34. "I thought it was pretty darn good. Glad I saw in theater. "
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It was complicated, but it kind of all made sense by the end.

It had less humor than other installments.

I think it kind of felt matrix-y with the speeches at some points.

I did not care for the chick who he would save, just so she can run away and put herself in danger again (just so he can save her again).

But other than that. It did well to fill almost 3 hours of action.

The train action sequence at the end is as well choreographed action sequence as I have seen in any movie.

I did have one question. I couldn't tell if we were supposed to recognize the baddy from a prior installment (MI:1?) or if it was just flashbacks that weren't in prior movies?




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36. "I just have to write this because I'm so bummed about it"
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I grabbed an early access, AMC Dolby Cinema (non-IMAX) ticket for Monday, and it was the first time I'd been in a DC room. It's fucking cool how they use haptics and speakers in there!


But it was also the first time I'd experienced audio not quite synced with the screen, ever (because in Nebraska we get it right the first time, damn it!) and while it wasn't so incredibly off that it was "you sing for hoes but sound like Cookie Monster" as 50 Cent once said, with all that immersion going on in the walls and my seat...I had to leave after about 30 minutes.


Like a total simp, I'm excited enough for this movie that I didn't even think to ask for a refund, I just bought a regular IMAX ticket for Saturday. But that stunk.


For what it's worth, which is nothing, I thought whatever I saw (basically up through something about Kittridge and Elsa and Ethan and ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE?!) was kind of a lot of nothing, but so are all this franchise's exposition scenes without an action sandwich so whatever.


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37. "Look, the action is really fun... but the AI shit is *very* silly."
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These movies have always teetered sort of perfectly on the edge of silly, because, at the end of the day, when the nemesis is a terrorist with a nuke or with some info and a nefarious plot, we as an audience accept it. Crazy motherfuckers make crazy plans, and maybe a guy as crazy as them is what it takes to stop them.

But once you have an all-seeing, all-knowing AI, then the flaws in the villain's plan are no longer "well, he's only human"-- they're just silly. And when the AI appears *in the club* and makes the ominous AI noise, I nearly tossed my hands up. Like... cmon.

The action is all very good, though, as bwood points out, it's not as good as the last two. Impossible bar to clear, but it's even more than just "it's great but can't beat the best." There are weird choices made here in terms of shot selection, edit point, that just feel... off. Like, the line Cruise says in the trailer: "There's nowhere I won't go to kill you. THAT is written." In the trailer, it's delivered straight ahead, nearly to camera. Classic movie hero shit. But in the movie... it's shot from the side. And it cuts during "THAT is written," completely diminishing the impact. Why? What happened? It's the same editor, same director, same producers. Why does this one... feel off comparatively?

I can think of two explanations: 1. McQuarrie and Cruise both kind of admit that they made up the last two movies on the fly to some degree, deciding to shoot impressive action first and foremost and figure out a lot of the plot stuff as they went. Which is INSANE. So maybe it bit them in the ass a bit here. 2. It might, like the Spider-Verse movie, just have been focused on being BIG instead of being tight, so you get bloat, you get too much explanation, you get moments that don't feel as Swiss-watch-tightened to perfection like in the last two because, well, there's way more movie here and they're already in pre-pro on the next one. Maybe it's just harder to focus when the project gets this unwieldy.

And maybe some of the not-as-great-but-still-really-damn-good action would've read better with a more human story at the center of it. But man, the Esai Morales as Apostle to an AI God kind of thing feels soooooo silly for this franchise! It feels like we stepped into Fast and Furious or something like that.

So yeah, it'll be a bottom 3 M:I movie for me, end of the day. Still like a 3.5 out of 5 star jam, maybe even 4 star, because shit, it's better than most other movies. It's just such an insane franchise that even a movie that's got some great shit but also some substantial flaws feels like a bit of a letdown. If it wasn't an M:I movie, I'd absolutely be way more stoked on it.

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41. "Serious Westworld S3 vibes here"
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They may as well have just called it Rehoboam rather than 'The Entity'. I guess Gabriel is more menacing than Serac, so that's something?

It's a weird movie. It's very good, and better live action, practical stunt work than you'll see this year. But the franchise bar is so high with M:I, so you sometimes feel like the stunts are a 'greatest hits' collection of stuff they've done. Chase through the city? Chase in the desert? Swanky nightclub stuff? A train (though the Orient Express, not a bullet train)? Mask machine breaks? Going rogue? Kinda all there and been done in some variety. But it's not, like, better than the sum of it's parts. Plus, being part 1 of 2 there were a TON of things they didn't even bother explaining, which hurt the feel of things (even though the movie was almost 3 hours long, they didn't have the time?)

It sounds like I'm dumping on the movie, and I'm not. Absolutely go see it at the biggest loudest screen you can (even though it drops from Imax in a few days AND probably isn't showing in true Imax screen size). It's a good time. I think the final reckoning will come after Pt. 2 drops, and even though it's not quite as good as some of it's predecessors in the series this movie is some of the most fun you'll have this summer.

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38. "All this nitpicking I bet it’s still fun to watch "
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>https://youtu.be/2m1drlOZSDw
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>Filmed in IMAX. Can't wait!

  

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39. "Pretty much"
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Paraphrasing a friend’s take: it might fall apart on rewatches, but goddamn it was a blast. I agree with a lot of the nits being picked in this post, but also, I was entertained from start to finish. This series doesn’t miss.

  

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40. "smh @ the AI and crypto/Blockchain stuff "
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but lol @ the opening scene being a submarine exploding/sinking given recent events

  

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42. "I say this as someone whose out of the loop"
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...out of the loop both in terms of this franchise and cinema, really.

But this movie was amazing. Wall-to-wall action with pacing that never felt out of control. Admittedly, there wasn't much in terms of character development, but for whatever reason I didn't mind. I was always anticipating how the plot would unfold that the relative lack of emotional investment didn't detract from my enjoyment.

Granted, like I said, I don't have memories of the previous two movies in this series as comparison. But as a summer movie, this was everything that could be expected.

Now that I'm typing this, I think if I rewatched this, I'd probably have some critiques. Maybe I'm more lenient because I'm waiting for Part II for the big payoff. If the resolution isn't as strong there, it might cause me to reevaluate this act. But, this movie knows what it is and, to me, delivers on that intent.

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43. "That train sequence…man"
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And that cycle jump. Yeah we all knew about its planning from mini docs but yo.. it still was awesome. The yellow car chase was fun as fuck too


w>...out of the loop both in terms of this franchise and
>cinema, really.
>
>But this movie was amazing. Wall-to-wall action with pacing
>that never felt out of control. Admittedly, there wasn't much
>in terms of character development, but for whatever reason I
>didn't mind. I was always anticipating how the plot would
>unfold that the relative lack of emotional investment didn't
>detract from my enjoyment.
>
>Granted, like I said, I don't have memories of the previous
>two movies in this series as comparison. But as a summer
>movie, this was everything that could be expected.
>
>Now that I'm typing this, I think if I rewatched this, I'd
>probably have some critiques. Maybe I'm more lenient because
>I'm waiting for Part II for the big payoff. If the resolution
>isn't as strong there, it might cause me to reevaluate this
>act. But, this movie knows what it is and, to me, delivers on
>that intent.

  

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44. "I'm rewatching them now on Paramount+"
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First one is still pretty damn good

I'm not a fan of the second one, seems like should have been a separate movie and not an MI movie. It might have some of his craziest stunts with motorcycles, mountain climbing, etc but he's too super here, fighting like he's Jet Li, and doesn't have the team comradaree the other movies have. I watched first 10 minutes thru song title and then fast forwarded to last 30 minutes of action and was good. Lol

3 I like probably most for PSH's villain, plays it so well.

And 4,5 and 6 are probably my favorite, going to watch this week than hit this one Saturday

  

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45. "Probably my favorite of the McQuarrie films (spoiler warning)"
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Or at least the most fun I've had on initial viewing of any of his M:I films.

It's overlong and overstuffed but it's a lot of fun. Atwell is a great addition and she and Cruise are great together especially in the Rome crash sequence. Pom Klementieff and Esai Morales are my favorite villains of these late films and, with respect to PSD, of the franchise.
Henry Czerny's return was everything I could have hoped for. His line deliveries in these films are like basically my ASMR.

Still not sure about how I feel about loss of one of the central characters. They were probably the best thing to come out of the last few films and it was a shame to see them go. The interchangeability of certain kinds of characters in these films is one of the weaker aspects of the franchise.

I have more mostly minor issues but on the whole I enjoyed it.

The centerpiece stunt wasn't a total letdown but like all of the biggest stunts in the McQuarrie films they all look cooler in the BTS. At least they used it in the final act of the film instead of burning it as an opening/early gag as they've done before.

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46. "fell asleep three times. way too long"
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granted, the last MI i saw was the first one, maybe the second one.

Wanted to see Oppenheimer but my wife didn't so we compromised on this one. Theater was bad too, no stadium seating so some dude with a hoodie was in my line of sight.

the movie was still bad tho. Super long and yeah the AI thing started strong enough but then it's in the club? (as the poster above mentioned). The guy kept beating up women and stabbing them. Not a great look unless I'm missing something from the previous movies? But I groaned because i genuinely feel like violence against women in movies is in poor taste and super old hat. I think it was that Dr Melfi episode in Sopranos that really changed my perspective and that was 20 yrs ago, yet still beating women up on screen.

The motorcycle cliff jump was awesome though. actually felt my stomach drop. And I watched the making of a few weeks back, still looked awesome. but yeah this movie was bad. and I loved TopGun 2 haha.

  

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47. "Enjoyed the movie. Weakest villain of the entire series though."
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I still don't understand why this series doesn't cast bigger named actors to play the villains, with a better screen presence. It worked perfectly with Phillip Seymour Hoffman. The actor in this movie just was not interesting, at all. Pom Klementieff should have been the main baddie, her character was WAY more interesting and entertaining...and she barely spoke.

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48. "this was shockingly bad. and I've liked nearly all of the M:I films."
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a few of the set pieces (Cruise spooning a horse in the desert then going FPS mode; the goofy-ass bridge knife fight) were almost parodic

the series' plots are generally incoherent but this one had no tension or momentum either

the quality of Fallout made me think this series had a few more left in it, but they should end it after the second part to this

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