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bwood
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"Fast X (Justin Lin, 2023)"


          

Praise be to white Jesus!

https://twitter.com/TheFastSaga/status/1516799999643770883?t=8qH0nezcSDwV0bDuZHRABg&s=19

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I've never clicked a link and been more underwhelmed
Apr 20th 2022
1
Justin Lin just left the franchise
Apr 26th 2022
2
Shock to no one Vin Diesel is a dick apparently
May 02nd 2022
3
New director: Louis Leterrier. Laughable downgrade, lmao.
May 02nd 2022
4
Shut your mouth! Brothers Grimsby is a classic
May 02nd 2022
5
It's going to be a choppy-edit CGI clusterfuck for 3 hours.
May 02nd 2022
8
Vin is going to surf on a nuke and ollie off a tall building
May 02nd 2022
6
He's saving that for xXx 4
May 02nd 2022
7
Obvious downgrade, but couldn't you hope for a reversion to his early ca...
May 02nd 2022
9
Those were nearly 15+ years ago.
May 02nd 2022
10
      Yea, I regret this lol.
May 26th 2023
36
He spearheaded the Dark Crystal Netflix series.
Feb 10th 2023
14
      Do those shows have action on the scale of F&F?
Feb 10th 2023
16
Trailer. Fuck! I'm in
Feb 10th 2023
11
I'd be more excited with a different director.
Feb 10th 2023
13
that looks really low budget compared to the past few.
Feb 10th 2023
15
I'ma watch it.
Feb 10th 2023
12
This is very much a Part One in the worst way possible.
May 15th 2023
17
This franchise has the weirdest naming convention...
May 16th 2023
18
Were still getting Fast X Again and Another Fast X to round out the Saga
May 16th 2023
19
look, abandon all logic ye who enter here.
May 16th 2023
20
Up next is 'Fast II'
May 16th 2023
21
RE: Up next is 'Fast II'
May 16th 2023
22
LMAO I wouldn't be surprised at all.
May 16th 2023
23
Real Fast
May 16th 2023
24
Furiously Fast.
May 16th 2023
25
      This will be the animated reboot
May 17th 2023
28
LOL. IN!!
May 17th 2023
27
LOL I can see Bad Boys going this route if Will keeps producing
May 16th 2023
26
I don't know how to call a franchise that is already stupid more stupid
May 19th 2023
29
Flopping at the box office. Hopefully this is the end finally.
May 20th 2023
30
Hopefully? The franchise has done you harm?
May 25th 2023
35
I had dumb stupid fun
May 21st 2023
31
I did too. This series is like Mission Dumb-possible and I love it
May 21st 2023
32
Right I was wondering about Brian and Mia’s kid too
May 31st 2023
39
      I think they have 2 kids actually lol
Jun 02nd 2023
40
Exhausting. 900 hours long.
May 23rd 2023
33
That was exactly what I thought it would be.
May 24th 2023
34
I just need Letty and Gina to tumble down those stairs again.
May 26th 2023
37
As a die-hard fan of the franchise this was some bullshit lol
May 31st 2023
38
this shit felt like the writers were already on strike lol.
Jun 10th 2023
41
lol they were quiet quitting...
Jun 10th 2023
42
This was pretty disappointing
Jun 10th 2023
43

Cold Truth
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1. "I've never clicked a link and been more underwhelmed"
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Spoiler: It's just a poster.

  

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2. "Justin Lin just left the franchise "
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https://twitter.com/TheFastSaga/status/1519077787167981569?t=HnzIzq58a-L1YLmuDSsYaQ&s=19

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3. "Shock to no one Vin Diesel is a dick apparently"
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4. "New director: Louis Leterrier. Laughable downgrade, lmao. "
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Definitely feels like a "Vin can do whatever he wants, we just need *anyone* to sit in that chair" hire.

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5. "Shut your mouth! Brothers Grimsby is a classic "
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I kid, I kid. This is going to be awful and like you said, its just a green light for Vin to do whatever. I'm almost surprised Universal didn't just let him direct the damn film.

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8. "It's going to be a choppy-edit CGI clusterfuck for 3 hours."
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The only hope of it being good is that the second unit has continued to shoot action even as they searched for Leterrier, so maybe it's just its own thing enough at this point that Leterrier can't put his trademark shitty action cutting into the mix.

But I have no hope for this.

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6. "Vin is going to surf on a nuke and ollie off a tall building"
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7. "He's saving that for xXx 4"
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9. "Obvious downgrade, but couldn't you hope for a reversion to his early ca..."
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The Transporter movies are good at what they do, letting a star be a star and getting from set piece to set piece, and the Norton Hulk movie is also perfectly efficient at what it sets out to do as an early Marvel flick before the formula settled in.

Like you say, I think there's a good chance the larger Fast machine can maintain whatever it's dumb bullshit is and it's not like Fast 9 was exactly a return to the Drift/4/5/6 heyday of the franchise Lin made his name on so...

Until we see a trailer, this isn't as significant a change as it reads on paper to me. *shrug*

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10. "Those were nearly 15+ years ago."
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>The Transporter movies are good at what they do, letting a
>star be a star and getting from set piece to set piece, and
>the Norton Hulk movie is also perfectly efficient at what it
>sets out to do as an early Marvel flick before the formula
>settled in.

And I'd argue, outside of a couple sequences in Transporter 2, the action in the other things you mention is pretty chopped to shit. One of the best things Lin did in the Fast movies was bring visually coherent action to the stage-- Leterrier has very infrequently in his career deployed such visual coherence.

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36. "Yea, I regret this lol."
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14. "He spearheaded the Dark Crystal Netflix series. "
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He also did three episodes of Lupin. That earns him a ton of trust and goodwill.

If anything, this is a downgrade for him.

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16. "Do those shows have action on the scale of F&F?"
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Because the fact that his only big-budget feature films are The Incredible Hulk, Clash of the Titans, and Now You See Me, which range from mediocre to outright bad in terms of quality action, gives me zero faith that he can deliver something on this scale-- especially since the Fast and Furious franchise at this point basically *only* has quality action to offer at this point.

So if it's edited to shit and/or the CGI is caught slipping, it's going to be a tough sit. The last one *had* a good director, and even that became a weightless "Fast and Furious as Meme" 2.5 hour slog. And this one's going to be split into two parts?

Yeah. I'm worried. lol

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11. "Trailer. Fuck! I'm in "
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https://youtu.be/32RAq6JzY-w

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13. "I'd be more excited with a different director."
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(I'm also concerned in general that the quality of these movies has taken a serious tumble over the last two movies, and replacing Lin, the best director in the franchise, with Leterrier just feels like a death rattle to me.)

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15. "that looks really low budget compared to the past few."
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also the villain being jason mamoa playing jason mamoa is a let down for sure.

  

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12. "I'ma watch it."
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I'm not particularly excited about it, but I'll be there.

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17. "This is very much a Part One in the worst way possible. "
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Longo is right. This needed Justin Lin.

This is not fun anymore.

This shit is way too convoluted and playing with the series mythology just to keep this shit going.

Right before the credits and the mid-credits made my eyes roll into the back of my skull.

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18. "This franchise has the weirdest naming convention..."
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I mean at this point they must be intentionally keeping the naming convention inconsistent...

The Fast and the Furious
2 Fast 2 Furious
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift
Fast & Furious
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Fast & Furious 6
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19. "Were still getting Fast X Again and Another Fast X to round out the Saga"
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20. "look, abandon all logic ye who enter here."
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The next one could be called Fast MCMXIILV

I wouldn't blink.

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21. "Up next is 'Fast II'"
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Calling it now.

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22. "RE: Up next is 'Fast II'"
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I'm thinking Fast Eleven

  

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23. "LMAO I wouldn't be surprised at all. "
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24. "Real Fast "
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>Calling it now.

  

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25. "Furiously Fast. "
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28. "This will be the animated reboot "
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27. "LOL. IN!!"
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26. "LOL I can see Bad Boys going this route if Will keeps producing"
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How is the third movie called Bad Boyz 4 Life when they knew they were going to or wanted to do a fourth. Dumbest shit.

Some people shouldnt be in control creative wise. I need The Rock, Will, Kevin Hart, and Vin to stop.

  

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29. "I don't know how to call a franchise that is already stupid more stupid"
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Convoluted ain't even the word for this shit. As much as I like these movies for the turn-off-your-brain and watch factor, they've gone past Expendables territory.


They have to end this shit; no need for two more films.


I wonder how Paul Walker would feel about these last three films and where the franchise has gone.


I should've done my usual and waited for Amazon prime so I could watch at home in quiet shame.

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30. "Flopping at the box office. Hopefully this is the end finally. "
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35. "Hopefully? The franchise has done you harm?"
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weird behavior.

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31. "I had dumb stupid fun"
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Granted nothing really made any sense. (Didn’t Brian and Mia have a kid that is not at family BBQs or in anything). I also enjoyed flamboyant Mamoa and the fact that they kept it in earth’s atmosphere.

  

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32. "I did too. This series is like Mission Dumb-possible and I love it"
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Yeah, nothing makes sense and it’s become a parody of itself. Give me 10 more of these, cause I don’t care.

Momoa was basically playing the Joker and I couldn’t get enough. I was happy every time he was on screen.



*spoiler*



And, of course, no one can actually die in this series. It’s hilarious.

  

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39. "Right I was wondering about Brian and Mia’s kid too"
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40. "I think they have 2 kids actually lol"
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33. "Exhausting. 900 hours long."
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Credit to the stunt team, because there was some very decent hand to hand combat here, even if the script is AI-generated, Momoa has turned it up to 11, and things that were charmingly ridiculous in entries 5 through 7 have largely been replaced with full blown self aware memes.

The cameo before the end credits started made me toss my hands up and sink into my chair. I just wish these movies would try even just a *little,* but it feels like the heart of the franchise left when Paul died, sadly.

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34. "That was exactly what I thought it would be."
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>Credit to the stunt team, because there was some very decent
>hand to hand combat here, even if the script is AI-generated,
>Momoa has turned it up to 11, and things that were charmingly
>ridiculous in entries 5 through 7 have largely been replaced
>with full blown self aware memes.
>
>The cameo before the end credits started made me toss my hands
>up and sink into my chair. I just wish these movies would try
>even just a *little,* but it feels like the heart of the
>franchise left when Paul died, sadly.

Yeah, Paul def took the heart with him. Also, they don't have to try. It's an easy half-Billion whenever they drop one of these. Fast Cars, musclely dudes, Chicks in bikini's, Stunts.

That's it.

I wish I had a hustle this good.

You should write a parody of these, I bet you'd nail it.

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37. "I just need Letty and Gina to tumble down those stairs again."
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Wild that this franchise, home to the most dumb stunts, also hosts one of the coolest straight up combat scenes I've seen in a theater.


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38. "As a die-hard fan of the franchise this was some bullshit lol"
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41. "this shit felt like the writers were already on strike lol."
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they didnt even try.

  

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42. "lol they were quiet quitting..."
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43. "This was pretty disappointing"
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If you feel free to constantly revive characters from the dead and invent beloved just-off-screen sons to avenge their father's death five movies later, then maybe you don't actually need to try a grand two (or three?) part-er. They simultaneously made Tokyo Drift take place ten years later (to justify Han's continued inclusion) and then several years earlier again (to justify Elle's age) so they're not even limited by linear time. I know Fast Five picks up immediately after Fast & Furious. There must be at least one more sequence like that as well.

Point is, I think it would have fixed a lot about this one to let the story conclude. Or, rather, some of the decisions I don't like may have been based on their desire to stretch it to two movies. For instance, it felt like the gang didn't get a lot of screen time for such a long movie. I think Dante Reyes was the biggest beneficiary of that screen time, and while I didn't hate him as a villain, I thought his affectations got a little bit stale. I guess Jacob and kid-Brian got a lot of time too and they were kind of adorable. But it was annoying how clearly they were setting up his death - which also didn't seem earned by the logic of the scene. I'm usually pretty credulous about that kind of stuff, so if I pick up on it then I assume they went way over the top.

I needed more of the gang in this, and that played as more glaring when they didn't really balance the plotlines they prioritized *or* finish the actual story. I actually think it's possible for them to turn this around for the next (or next next) movie, but somebody's got to make some better decisions about who's on screen. I'm not sure the post-credits reveal is promising in that regard. But the other, just-before-the-credits reveal was my favorite. I didn't even like Gal Gadot's character and find her hostile to the concept of acting, but that was such a stupid, bonkers moment that it felt like old, familiar Fast & Furious fun.

And finally, some of the stunts looked shitty. That doesn't happen very often in these movies. Again, I'm really credulous, so if I hated some of the stunts that means that people that know what they're talking about must hate them.

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