The crew is back and Paperboy is on a European tour.
Other shows have copied the offbeat pacing and humor of this show, so it will be interesting to see how folks respond, but I expect the same care and detail that went into highlighting some of the nuances of ATL will be shifted across to Europe and the fish out of water (Paperboy) the fish finding his school (Darius), the fish in the frying pan (Ern) and the flying fish (Van) will make for some hilarity. Hoping that Tracy pops up again this season.
3. "That chicken was some of the worst I've ever seen" In response to Reply # 0
And with capers?
<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up... __________________________
Jay: Look here homie, any nigga can get a hit record. This here is about respect. Game: Like Gladys Knight. Jay: Aretha Franklin. Game: Word, I like her too. Jay: Nigga...
6. "That first episode was a bold choice, Cotton." In response to Reply # 0
Pretty bold to go so far off the beaten path given how long the show last aired, but that was stellar storytelling nonetheless. The only minor problem I had was the 'why do we keep getting away with it' monologue one of the foster mothers had before the car accident since it was a bit too on the nose for me, but that is minor nitpicking.
"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.
8. "It's actually pretty close to what the woman actually said. " In response to Reply # 6
According to an incident report following the murders, it was reported that Sarah told a co-worker " she wish someone told her it was okay not to have a big family. Then she and Jennifer would not have adopted the children."
from Wikipedia.
Not as on the nose I supposed but it is still the same sort of not taking responsibility as the line from the show.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
12. "Wildest thing is I never knew about the Hart story till this thread" In response to Reply # 0
However, the phenomenon of lesbian couples from "progressive" enclaves adopting Black children, that I have been in close proximity to (in the DMV) has been so prevalent that I found the whole narrative completely relatable/plausible.
Wild (but not surprising) that this shit was plucked straight from the headlines. I do remember the image of Devonte hugging the cop.
13. "I wonder if people get the point?.." In response to Reply # 0
The commentary around this show is always entertaining, but I often wonder if most people truly get the point (each ep, overall).
*No, not just the convos held on the boards.
I see the critical acclaim and criticism and still wonder if anyone's paying attention? As someone previously pointed out: this show once featured an invisible car. I'm almost certain that means that all bets are off regarding expectations or traditions when it comes to storytelling.
I thought we were tuning in because we wanted something fresh, new, not so typical. Something that made you think, pushed the boundaries, forced us to stretch. Like it or not, Glover and crew continue to deliver.
Their writer's room has clearly been lurking here for quite some time.
16. "Dude an episode about white people going to a black immigrant funeral" In response to Reply # 15
isn't made for the hood.
Completely told from the perspective of White Manhattanites and the crazy immigrants they had to deal with isn't groundbreaking, it's an episode of Seinfeld.
Yeah, I get the whole point that this black nanny was more family to the child then his own parents. But it's a point that doesn't need an entire 30 minutes and a story told from a white POV to get across. The whole episode could have been told from a black perspective and still make that point. It was White Gaze.
The initial All Atlanta writers room for the first season gave a truly original and authentic look at black life in Atlanta despite the invisible car and other surreal moments. That's the best point to me.
We don't need another show about white manhattanites. We definitely don't need in done on Atlanta's time and dime.
I am still enjoying this season. But let's not act like the show is flawless and its impossible for them to make wrong choices (and that what we perceive as wrong choices is just them working on a higher level that we aren't able to understand).
It's still a great show, it just doesn't need episodes told from the POV of White People.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
18. "perhaps Buddy is one of the people missing the point..." In response to Reply # 17 Fri May-06-22 03:24 PM by CyrenYoung
..the point being:
Whatever you thought this show should/would be, it isn't.
I'm not suggesting that the show is perfect or that it can't be criticized. Like you, I appreciate that the show isn't beholden to a specific perspective. They started with a show called Atlanta, in Atlanta, about characters from Atlanta. Since then, the show (including the cast and audience) has grown to include a bit more than its initial offerings. I'm fine with that.
23. "the major point was about how little they cared about her" In response to Reply # 16
>isn't made for the hood. > >Completely told from the perspective of White Manhattanites >and the crazy immigrants they had to deal with isn't >groundbreaking, it's an episode of Seinfeld. > >Yeah, I get the whole point that this black nanny was more >family to the child then his own parents. But it's a point >that doesn't need an entire 30 minutes and a story told from a >white POV to get across. The whole episode could have been >told from a black perspective and still make that point. It >was White Gaze. > >The initial All Atlanta writers room for the first season gave >a truly original and authentic look at black life in Atlanta >despite the invisible car and other surreal moments. That's >the best point to me. > >We don't need another show about white manhattanites. We >definitely don't need in done on Atlanta's time and dime. > >I am still enjoying this season. But let's not act like the >show is flawless and its impossible for them to make wrong >choices (and that what we perceive as wrong choices is just >them working on a higher level that we aren't able to >understand). > >It's still a great show, it just doesn't need episodes told >from the POV of White People. > >********** >"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then >they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson > >"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
they appreciated her being there for her son, but they knew NOTHING about her. there are plenty of real life Black nannies whose previous lives were of prominence in the professional world. some Black funeraling was thrown in but it was more about how they could be so into their world that they completely have no care for others who are even sharing their same space.
24. "RE: the major point was about how little they cared about her" In response to Reply # 23
yep, and nicely punctuated by Miles's (only) perking up when he realizes the woman that cared for his child for years is related to a famous NFL player.
22. "reminded me of that chappelle bit" In response to Reply # 20
at the beginning when Darius/Al first see the guy having bad trip, balled up in the doorway with blanket over him ("oh that's a tourist")..that was like the "and then i kicked her in the pussy!" punchline/ending.
and i still didn't see it coming at all when Al winds up exactly there in the end. (bravo donald..)
25. "Vanelie Carnivale..." In response to Reply # 0 Fri May-20-22 07:23 PM by CyrenYoung
..what a way to close out what can only be described as a bizarre season of wanderment. In a world where characters often blur the lines of reality and imagination, we watch Vanelie Get Out with Eyes Wide Shut in one episode.
Like Shanice & Xosha, the audience is immediately thrown into the mix without notice and given the option to go along for the ride. Candice is the lone character given true perspective, but even she's thrown. Often wondering why she's seemingly the only person recognizing just how crazy the situation playing out has truly become.
Skarsgard is fucking hilarious! That entire scene is astonishingly creepy and funny at the same time. Its everything The Black Lady Sketch Show wants to be.
This wild ride of an ep is a lot of things, but regardless of our opinions, its worth it for Van's admission and explanation of how she arrived in Amsterdam, eventually spiraling out of control in Paris.
26. "Not to sound all thinkpiecey here..." In response to Reply # 25 Fri May-20-22 05:36 PM by Mafamaticks
Like Tarrare, Van's hunger to free herself from her old life was almost insatiable. It started off small. Throwing niggas in pools, stealing wigs. At the final episode, she got a whole new identity.
Tarrare's appetite had him consume a small baby before it was all said and done. The hands meant Van was about to spiral out of control, like Tarrare.
..I think there's plenty to be gleaned from this season (let alone, the entire series). The layers speak to experiences that vary, depending on the perspective. Most notably, how sometimes the most trivial details can impact the outcome of someone's journey.
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