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"Malignant (James Wan, 2021)"


          

Holy fucking shit. This movie is insane.

  

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started out as a generic modern horror film then ramped the fuck up lol.
Sep 19th 2021
1
RE: Malignant (James Wan, 2021)
Sep 19th 2021
2
Movie ruled. Tons of fun. Outstanding final act.
Sep 19th 2021
3
Cuz got BUSY in the police precinct.
Sep 20th 2021
6
      *rolls eyes*
Sep 20th 2021
7
           Nah, that's what makes it fun tho, lol.
Sep 20th 2021
8
           Speaking of the top notch police work in this
Sep 20th 2021
9
           RE: Speaking of the top notch police work in this
Sep 20th 2021
10
           So much of this flick made no sense.
Sep 21st 2021
12
           the precinct fight was epic lol
Oct 10th 2021
25
I’m in the middle of it now, and I hate the music.
Sep 20th 2021
4
The dumbest shit I've ever seen.
Sep 20th 2021
5
Trash from start to finish. A thick slice of straight to video cheese IM...
Sep 21st 2021
11
Definitely didn't deserve a release.
Sep 21st 2021
13
I think everything deserves a release
Sep 21st 2021
14
      This is the most important thing to me, imo.
Sep 21st 2021
15
      If Wan wasn't already Wan, I'd agree.
Sep 21st 2021
16
           He took a risk. IMO he shit the bed. But the risk itself is a good thing...
Sep 22nd 2021
17
                That's a wonderful thought, and I was ABOUT to agree w/you until
Sep 22nd 2021
18
                     That's just not how this industry works and I'm sure you know that
Sep 28th 2021
21
In general, I prefer my camp/schlock and serious themes/emotional depth
Sep 24th 2021
19
you want some wild fun? we Got ya!
Sep 26th 2021
20
It's this week's episode of How Did This Get Made.
Oct 08th 2021
22
Oh Shit
Oct 08th 2021
23
They nailed it.
Oct 11th 2021
26
i thought it was fun and easy to accept
Oct 10th 2021
24
this is a str8 up 80s/90s Sam Raimi flick
Oct 12th 2021
27
yeah no. This movie reads as unintentional comedy
Oct 18th 2021
28
      If you don't think this movie is intentionally off-the-wall...
Oct 18th 2021
29
           No I don't read this flick that way
Oct 18th 2021
30
           yeah we agree on all of this.
Oct 20th 2021
33
           yeah, this was how it hit me too...
Oct 18th 2021
31
           intentional? Probably. Effective? Not really.
Oct 20th 2021
32

Reeq
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1. "started out as a generic modern horror film then ramped the fuck up lol."
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2. "RE: Malignant (James Wan, 2021)"
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Spoiler: Reminds me of middle school when we thought the funniest thing was to film ourselves running backwards, and then play it in reverse. Apparently I still think it's funny, because I laughed through a lot of this.

The movie is profoundly stupid, but fun. Also, a lot of cool technical shots.

EDIT: They need to do a crossover of this with Tenent!

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3. "Movie ruled. Tons of fun. Outstanding final act."
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I saw the twist coming and I didn't care, because I was so delighted.

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6. "Cuz got BUSY in the police precinct."
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7. "*rolls eyes*"
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this awkward, backwards assed fool bodied A WHOLE ARMED PRECINT!

How did this shit make it to the cineplex, for real?

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8. "Nah, that's what makes it fun tho, lol. "
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I've had it up to here with boring-ass, predictable-ass movies. "Oh, it's another demon from wherever, another ghost, another blah blah that's a metaphor for trauma."

NAH DUDE. GIMME BACKWARDS LADY OWNING COPS WITH A CHAIR. THAT'S GODDAMN CINEMA.

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9. "Speaking of the top notch police work in this"
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I loved in the beginning how her husband got brutally murdered in a home invasion with the suspect still on the loose and she just returns home the next day by herself.

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10. "RE: Speaking of the top notch police work in this"
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You’re free to go back to the house where your husband was killed, and we didn’t find the suspect, and you barely keep any doors locked.

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12. "So much of this flick made no sense."
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Like no one EVER explain how this fool has storm like powers. Literally effects anything electric around them.

We just don't talk about it at all.

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25. "the precinct fight was epic lol"
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4. "I’m in the middle of it now, and I hate the music."
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5. "The dumbest shit I've ever seen."
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What makes it worse is I've come to expect better from Wan.

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11. "Trash from start to finish. A thick slice of straight to video cheese IM..."
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Not in a so bad it's good way either.

The only saving grace I can see for this dumpster fire, would have been to just lean all the way into the camp, on some samurai cop shit.

Make this shit Killer Klowns From Outer Space type schlock, and Wan would have a winner. Dumb fun.

As it stands, it's just plain dumb.

  

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13. "Definitely didn't deserve a release."
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14. "I think everything deserves a release "
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Any artist who can complete a vision deserves a shot to share that vision.

Especially if said artist has built a cache like Wan's.

Whether or not I/you/they/them like it is inconsequential.

Dollars to donuts, this garners a fiercely loyal cult following because, bare minimum, it gave us soemthing different in the marketplace. Some folks will dig it.

Hell, Frank loved it. Frank also loves Jupiter Ascending, a stemaing pile of excrement if ever there was one. And while I may enjoy needling him over his love for that generational disaster, I like to see any art find a home in the hearts of even a small niche of people.

Part of why I've never really went all in in music or writing is that fear that, after all that work and effort, it's going to suck, and people will say so.

So even if I don't like the product, I respect any artist who puts themselves out there for consumption. One person's dumpster fire is another's giant space heater.

  

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15. "This is the most important thing to me, imo. "
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> because, bare minimum, it gave us soemthing
>different in the marketplace. Some folks will dig it.

With more and more studios being operated by corporate conglomerate suits, the big releases will continue to be more and more exceedingly risk averse as time goes on. So anything that really goes for it in a way that differentiates itself from the crowd is going to appeal to me purely on an "I'm glad it exists" level.

Granted, our tastes obviously differ on certain films, lol. But like you said, that's completely fine. I don't expect everyone to love the same shit I love, and I don't expect to love everything different that comes down the pipeline. But I'm always glad when something different exists.

And I'm always glad when any filmmaker can find their way through the sea of suits they have to encounter and still end up with anything remotely unique. I know firsthand how fucking impossible that can often be.

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16. "If Wan wasn't already Wan, I'd agree."
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but he is, and he's given us SO. MUCH. BETTER. than this BS.

so.....

Nah. I, you, we, he, she, NOONE. NEEDED. THIS. SHIT?

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17. "He took a risk. IMO he shit the bed. But the risk itself is a good thing..."
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Some people will enjoy it, as we've seen in this very thread.

Another example of a WTF IS THIS SHIT movie that still garners affection is Tusk. I'm a fan of that film, and as far as I can tell, small minority there.

Even the weirdest fever dream of a film has an audience. The great thing about art is that a given work speaks different things to different people.

This one definitely didn't work for me though. It's not good and it tries to hard to give us a left turn, while not trying hard enough to make that turn satisfying.

But it's already garnered a fan base who very much enjoyed it.

That's more than enough to juatify it's existence.

  

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18. "That's a wonderful thought, and I was ABOUT to agree w/you until"
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I thought about opportunity cost.

This movie was made. Wan put his name, energy, and weigh behind THIS film.

There is not second season of The Watchmen, or Lovecraft Country.

but this shit got made.

Nah, fam. I can't.

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21. "That's just not how this industry works and I'm sure you know that"
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>I thought about opportunity cost.

What's the cost?

>This movie was made. Wan put his name, energy, and weigh
>behind THIS film.

Right.
Because he's the artist.
This is his vision.

It's his film, and it's clearly a passion project.

Very few artists bat a thousand, or anywhere close. And when you have a run like Wan has had, well, he objectively, unarguably put himself in a position to do whatever the hell he wants.

He, by sheer definition, deserved to make this movie, or anything else he wanted.

Because, within his more conventional efforts, he's a proven, virtually guaranteed success. He may not get this particular blank check for a minute- but within his usual realm, he'll still get those checks. Because he's a proven commodity, until he isn't.

>There is not second season of The Watchmen, or Lovecraft
>Country.
>
>but this shit got made.

What's the actual correlation?

Did Damon Lindeloff, way back in 2019, decide he didn't want to do a Watchmen S2 because James Wan had a shitty passion project in the works?

What's the correlation to Lovecraft Country?

>Nah, fam. I can't.

Everything isn't a winner. That's just the way it is. Artists with great track records earn the right- and funding, distribution, etc- to pick and choose their projects, and sometimes those are passion projects.

Sometimes, those projects are dog shit. The creative world is filled with film/tv/music/literature efforts that are absolute garbage to most people.

And a fair amount of that garbage is beloved by someone, somewhere.

Samurai Cop turned sheer incompetence into art.

Shit, the genre itself is a breeding ground for awful movies that later become cult classics in the eyes of a rabid few.

That's the nature of this beast. I don't see the correlation between this and the aforementioned TV shows, apart from the same parent company.

Again, there are multiple people in this very post who enjoyed it.
Does your disdain trump their enjoyment?
Clearly, there's an audience.

  

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19. "In general, I prefer my camp/schlock and serious themes/emotional depth"
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to be completely separate

but for some reason on this one, it just worked for me and was a lot of fun. could end up being my favorite James Wan film

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20. "you want some wild fun? we Got ya!"
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...maaan I was 'side eyeing' for the initial first few moments/scenes....but once I let myself get up into the space this movie sets itself up in I was ALL in for the ride!

and it was a crazy arse fun arse ride too

just relax and enjoy this one. thumbs up!

  

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22. "It's this week's episode of How Did This Get Made."
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I'm dying already.

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26. "They nailed it."
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24. "i thought it was fun and easy to accept"
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i am surprised to see it get such a polarizing reaction.

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27. "this is a str8 up 80s/90s Sam Raimi flick"
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not what I expected at all, but the opening sequence made it clear what it was fast, lol
nice lil homage to saturday night on cinemax

  

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28. "yeah no. This movie reads as unintentional comedy"
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Raimi n em were TRYING to be funny.

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29. "If you don't think this movie is intentionally off-the-wall..."
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As if the *very first scene* doesn't project tonally exactly what they're going for?

... yeah, we have very, very different reads on this movie, lol. The humor, especially in the last third, is 1000% intentional. They're not playing it for dark gritty horror, they're playing it for over-the-top entertainment and audience cheers.

Wan wasn't sitting there going, "and then Gabriel throws the chair across the police station and hits the cop, that will be incredibly scary!" He was going, "lol, give him a chair throw on some wrestler shit, fuck yeah." And he was right, my theater absolutely went bonkers.

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30. "No I don't read this flick that way"
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Intentionally over the top? Sure. Intentionally funny? No. I think this movie was written twist 1st and everything else is an afterthought and it shows in how Gabriel has inconsistent powers and many of the actions of characters in this flick make NO sense, but maybe you're right. You probably are, given that I seem to be in the minority when it comes to this flick.

I'm honestly glad y'all enjoyed it so much. I however, wish I had spent my time doing something else.

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33. "yeah we agree on all of this. "
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>
>
>Intentionally over the top? Sure. Intentionally funny? No. I
>think this movie was written twist 1st and everything else is
>an afterthought and it shows in how Gabriel has inconsistent
>powers and many of the actions of characters in this flick
>make NO sense, but maybe you're right. You probably are, given
>that I seem to be in the minority when it comes to this flick.
>
>
>I'm honestly glad y'all enjoyed it so much. I however, wish I
>had spent my time doing something else.
>
>lol

100% on this. We certainly do not diverge much at all in terms of our opinion of the movie itself. This was bad.

  

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31. "yeah, this was how it hit me too..."
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>As if the *very first scene* doesn't project tonally exactly
>what they're going for?
>
>... yeah, we have very, very different reads on this movie,
>lol. The humor, especially in the last third, is 1000%
>intentional. They're not playing it for dark gritty horror,
>they're playing it for over-the-top entertainment and audience
>cheers.
>
>Wan wasn't sitting there going, "and then Gabriel throws the
>chair across the police station and hits the cop, that will be
>incredibly scary!" He was going, "lol, give him a chair throw
>on some wrestler shit, fuck yeah." And he was right, my
>theater absolutely went bonkers.>

we definitely took it as INTENTIONALLY bonkers & goofy, wild & fun.



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(guitarist)

  

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Cold Truth
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Wed Oct-20-21 07:27 AM

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32. "intentional? Probably. Effective? Not really. "
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Wed Oct-20-21 07:29 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

I think the polarizing repsonses it's received is evidence enough that he didn't strike the right tone with it.

I wouldn't call it well-executed by any stretch.

I still appreciate the attempt, and I'm still glad to see it's found an audience though.

  

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