Printer-friendly copy Email this topic to a friend
Lobby Pass The Popcorn topic #741364

Subject: "Eternals (Chloe Zhao (!!!), 2021)" Previous topic | Next topic
bwood
Member since Apr 03rd 2006
8119 posts
Thu May-20-21 04:44 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
"Eternals (Chloe Zhao (!!!), 2021)"


  

          

Some brief footage in this Marvel sizzle reel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpxoFcdORI

Praying this shit is good. I have faith in Chloe. Especially with this stacked cast.

------------------------------------------
America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top


Topic Outline
Subject Author Message Date ID
Who kicked off the give indy filmmaker big franchise film craze?
May 19th 2021
1
Favreau?..
May 20th 2021
3
      Favreau had already done Elf and Zathura by that point.
May 24th 2021
7
           I don't consider Elf or Zathura blockbuster films...
May 24th 2021
8
Trailer
May 24th 2021
4
the trailer has me interested in finding out wtf this is
May 24th 2021
5
Im with you on the last two statements.
May 24th 2021
6
I'm with you on this
May 24th 2021
9
Full trailer (not watching)
Aug 19th 2021
10
I watched...what is this even about? Trailer reveals nothing really
Aug 19th 2021
11
      Really? I thought this one told us much more.
Aug 19th 2021
12
      every major gamble has paid off royally though
Aug 19th 2021
13
      The fucked with the timeline, and that caused a 'equal and opposite' eff...
Aug 24th 2021
14
Not sure anyone cares about this coming out
Nov 04th 2021
15
I think it’s key to view it as a building block.
Nov 05th 2021
16
looks stupid. I’ll catch it on d+ for free whenever it makes it there
Nov 05th 2021
17
yeah this marvel phase about to be rough lol.
Nov 05th 2021
18
Manages to be way too much and way too little at once.
Nov 06th 2021
19
this was a really bad movie. period.
Nov 06th 2021
20
Should have been a Disney + series. Spoilers
Nov 07th 2021
21
Agreed.
Nov 07th 2021
22
Agreed on long form. Disagree on alpha deviant
Nov 07th 2021
24
Well shot. Too many characters to do them all justice
Nov 07th 2021
23

Buddy_Gilapagos
Charter member
46578 posts
Wed May-19-21 03:37 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
1. "Who kicked off the give indy filmmaker big franchise film craze?"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
CyrenYoung
Charter member
33104 posts
Thu May-20-21 04:42 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
3. "Favreau?.."
In response to Reply # 1
Thu May-20-21 04:43 PM by CyrenYoung

  

          

..He might not be the first, but certainly one of the most notable indie film makers to be handed the reigns to a blockbuster film and succeed.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Frank Longo
Member since Nov 18th 2003
84710 posts
Mon May-24-21 12:37 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
7. "Favreau had already done Elf and Zathura by that point. "
In response to Reply # 3


  

          

He'd already transitioned into big studio films before Iron Man.

Marvel started with established studio directors (Favreau, Branagh, Johnston), then started using folks better known for TV (Whedon, Alan Taylor, the Russos). Guys like Shane Black and James Gunn started the transition to "indie", because while they'd written screenplays for the studio system and directed minor works, they'd never done anything of that scale before.

I think Jon Watts for Spiderman: Homecoming was the first *real* indie pick from Marvel. He'd never done anything for the studio system at all, and then got handed the Spider-Man franchise. Pretty amazing.

After that's when they transitioned to Taika, Boden/Fleck, now Zhao, Shortland, etc.

There are a few examples of Marvel-to-indie directors before the MCU, but that's not much of a surprise, because it was spread around a variety of studios and no one really knew what they were doing. Sometimes it worked out (Blade II to Guillermo Del Toro), sometimes it didn't (Fantastic Four to Josh Trank).

But I think MCU's transition to indie voices is especially noteworthy because the machine is so large, and it's so easy for voices to be lost. Some of them have shone through (Taika, Black/Gunn if we want to argue for them), others have just gone along for the ride. It'll be interesting to see how this new batch does for Marvel.

For beer lovers: http://thebeertravelguide.com
For movie lovers: http://russellhainline.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
CyrenYoung
Charter member
33104 posts
Mon May-24-21 01:15 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
8. "I don't consider Elf or Zathura blockbuster films..."
In response to Reply # 7


  

          

...Elf greatly exceeded expectations. Zathura, not so much.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

bwood
Member since Apr 03rd 2006
8119 posts
Mon May-24-21 08:18 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
4. "Trailer"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

https://youtu.be/0WVDKZJkGlY


Oh man I can't wait!!!! I have faith in Chloe!!!

------------------------------------------
America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Rjcc
Charter member
93933 posts
Mon May-24-21 10:51 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
5. "the trailer has me interested in finding out wtf this is"
In response to Reply # 0


          

it doesn't show enough for me to have an idea what the movie is like really, but I'll be checking for it

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
normal35762
Member since Oct 20th 2004
13043 posts
Mon May-24-21 11:56 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
6. "Im with you on the last two statements."
In response to Reply # 5


  

          

That trailer was nothing. As someone who isn't hella deep in the Marvel Universe the trailer itself did nada. Maybe it's a slow burn of a movie? The other trailers will reveal more. I will probably be checking it out.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
JiggysMyDayJob
Member since Jul 03rd 2002
4944 posts
Mon May-24-21 04:27 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
9. "I'm with you on this "
In response to Reply # 5


  

          

and as a person that knows The Eternals comic history, I think they could be a hard sale for the casual MCU fan if not done right.

They're going to have to do more than a trailer showing they've been around forever and a quick line about Tony Stark and Steve Rogers.

sometimes u gotta leave ur inner nigger in the bank vault. - desus

Situation Podemy : www.situationpodemy.wordpress.com
itunes:https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/situation-podemy/id620232249
facebook: facebook.com/situationpodemy
@SituationPodemy

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

bwood
Member since Apr 03rd 2006
8119 posts
Thu Aug-19-21 05:54 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
10. "Full trailer (not watching)"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

https://youtu.be/x_me3xsvDgk

------------------------------------------
America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Tiger Woods
Member since Feb 15th 2004
17353 posts
Thu Aug-19-21 11:15 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
11. "I watched...what is this even about? Trailer reveals nothing really"
In response to Reply # 10


  

          

and that's ok to me

This is a major gamble Marvel is taking here

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Nopayne
Member since Jan 03rd 2003
52410 posts
Thu Aug-19-21 01:34 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
12. "Really? I thought this one told us much more."
In response to Reply # 11


  

          

All I remember from the other trailer was a bunch of people standing around on cliffs.

---
Love,
Nopayne

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
blackfoot_female
Member since Jul 15th 2002
961 posts
Thu Aug-19-21 01:58 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
13. "every major gamble has paid off royally though"
In response to Reply # 11


          

iron man being central character in phase 1 and 2
guardians of the galaxy

probably a few more i'm not thinking about

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
spades
Member since Mar 22nd 2006
42833 posts
Tue Aug-24-21 12:47 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
14. "The fucked with the timeline, and that caused a 'equal and opposite' eff..."
In response to Reply # 11


  

          

"The Emergence" (Whatever the fuck that is) Apparently The Eternals stand against that.

That gives us the broad strokes.

********************************
http://www.last.fm/user/Nspades

Get Out The Room!
http://getouttheroom.podomatic.com
@fakewilliamkatt
www.wickedradionetwork.com

"The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion" - Paulo Coehlo

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

go mack
Member since May 02nd 2008
3880 posts
Thu Nov-04-21 11:03 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
15. "Not sure anyone cares about this coming out"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Reviews coming in are not good so probably not helping.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

JFrost1117
Member since Aug 12th 2005
23174 posts
Fri Nov-05-21 12:31 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
16. "I think it’s key to view it as a building block."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

-This is a fuckin top-tier collection of beautiful people in one movie.
-Stakes is high. We can’t go back to “The Battle of NY”.
-Probably top 10 most unnecessary sex scene.
-Also, probably top 10 least aerodynamic space-faring vessel.
-I’m so proud of Kumail.
-Kinda happy they only referenced what we already know, and didn’t have to bring in anyone familiar for fans’ sake.

Someone I overheard from the restroom said it was boring, but memory can’t be so short that we forget that it took 20+ movies to get to the crescendo of “Endgame”.

____________
Twitter & IG: @rulerofmyself
SC: rulerofmyself17

Yes! She's on the drugs. (c) BoHagon

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

BrooklynWHAT
Member since Jun 15th 2007
82142 posts
Fri Nov-05-21 01:20 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
17. "looks stupid. I’ll catch it on d+ for free whenever it makes it there"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Reeq
Member since Mar 11th 2013
12469 posts
Fri Nov-05-21 07:16 AM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
18. "yeah this marvel phase about to be rough lol."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

------

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Frank Longo
Member since Nov 18th 2003
84710 posts
Sat Nov-06-21 12:19 AM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
19. "Manages to be way too much and way too little at once."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Way too much as in too many characters, too much exposition, too many character decisions and moments that didn’t seem to make sense.

Way too little as in too little character development, too little non-CGI action, too few reasons to care.

Zhao doesn’t really get to do much save for a few pseudo-Malick montages and some expansive nature settings (way too much of this movie is just on a beach or in a desert, lol). The cast is largely fine, though they just aren’t given much to do. The 2h45 run time is brutal. Think this could’ve been more successful if they’d just had 2 or 3 fewer Eternals on the team.

And nitpicky, admittedly, but there’s a CGI moment in the mid-credits scene that’s reeeeeally rough. No clue if they rushed that or what, but sheesh. Hard to get excited about Eternals 2.

For beer lovers: http://thebeertravelguide.com
For movie lovers: http://russellhainline.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

wrecknoble
Member since Mar 15th 2005
2161 posts
Sat Nov-06-21 09:43 PM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
20. "this was a really bad movie. period."
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Frisson Radio | Saturdays 6-8 PM EST | 89.5 FM (Toronto) | www.ciut.fm
https://www.instagram.com/frissonradio

Instagram (Photography):
https://www.instagram.com/npervaizphotography

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Cold Truth
Member since Jan 28th 2004
42522 posts
Sun Nov-07-21 01:50 AM

Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
21. "Should have been a Disney + series. Spoilers"
In response to Reply # 0
Sun Nov-07-21 01:57 AM by Cold Truth

  

          

Everything about this screams a dire need for longform storytelling.

I can see a solid 8 ep series of this working very well.

I think the Icarus would be better served to have him know what's going on the entire time, as perhaps the one eternal who has always known. I think it would work better storywise if he was an intentional failsafe, Ajak revealing the truth to him.

Watching him struggle to fulfill his mission, against his love for Sersi, would make him a much more interesting character, and a better plot point IMO.

but that's me.

Also, I hated how the deviants were basically generic monsters. They looked like Michael Bay's overly busy Transformers designs. Not good at all. They had no character. Even the evolved "alpha" deviant.

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Frank Longo
Member since Nov 18th 2003
84710 posts
Sun Nov-07-21 07:15 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list
22. "Agreed. "
In response to Reply # 21


  

          

The Alpha Deviant was one of the least impactful Marvel "monsters" I can recall. Absolute nothingburger of design and consequence. Which is *insane* considering its powers-- but the movie just didn't develop it enough or deploy it successfully.

The whole shit needed 8-10 hours, so that it wasn't just a non-stop sea of exposition. It's really hard to get to know any of these characters enough to care in 2.5 hours.

For beer lovers: http://thebeertravelguide.com
For movie lovers: http://russellhainline.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
spirit
Charter member
21246 posts
Sun Nov-07-21 09:45 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
24. "Agreed on long form. Disagree on alpha deviant"
In response to Reply # 21


  

          


Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

spirit
Charter member
21246 posts
Sun Nov-07-21 09:44 PM

Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy listClick to send message via AOL IM
23. "Well shot. Too many characters to do them all justice"
In response to Reply # 0


  

          

Minor spoilers below


I found myself quickly forgetting certain names (the lady with the super speed got one key fight scene in, but no real character development, Gilgamesh didn’t get to do a lot before , etc)

MCU had been doing a great job with villain motivations up until this year. The villain in Black Widow was just an irredeemable horrible person for no apparent reason and it’s really unclear to me how The Celestial could be this powerful and couldn’t figure out a way to “reproduce” without causing such cataclysmic destruction. Can’t comment on Shang Chi without giving unbelievable spoilers there, but after you see it, inbox me.

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

  

Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Lobby Pass The Popcorn topic #741364 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.25
Copyright © DCScripts.com