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"The Expanse - Season 5"
Mon Dec-21-20 04:42 PM by CyrenYoung

  

          

I'm so hyped!

That is all

  

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Do you mean 5?
Dec 17th 2020
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RE: Do you mean 5?
Dec 17th 2020
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Season 5 - (can we get a mod edit). It is off to a great start.
Dec 19th 2020
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Yeah, man, really good start
Dec 20th 2020
4
have you read all the books? amz series is done after next season (6).
Dec 20th 2020
5
      Yeah, all caught up on books. Last two have been fire!
Dec 21st 2020
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Yup, I'm loving the first three episodes so far.
Dec 21st 2020
6
      yeah. even from the books, the Ilus / Season 4 was a bit of a different
Dec 21st 2020
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5-4: gotdamn. GOAT episode of the series?
Dec 23rd 2020
9
Yeah it's definitely up there.
Dec 23rd 2020
10
RE: Yeah it's definitely up there.
Dec 28th 2020
12
that was so heavy. the villains keep getting worse.
Dec 28th 2020
11
9.7 on IMDb / apparently the show mimics Alexander the Great's rise
Jan 05th 2021
13
      well damn. i didn't know about all the alexander the great tie-ins.
Jan 09th 2021
14
           I just like anything with Amos in it.
Jan 09th 2021
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                Amos is so well written+ Wes is so perfectly cast
Jan 10th 2021
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                RE: Amos is so well written+ Wes is so perfectly cast <--- this.
Jan 10th 2021
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                he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series.
Jan 10th 2021
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                     RE: he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series.
Jan 11th 2021
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Anyone want to break down the end of episode 7?
Jan 14th 2021
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1. "Do you mean 5?"
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I think 4 came out last winter.

When is it dropping? I agree

  

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2. "RE: Do you mean 5?"
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My bad! Yes I meant season 5.

I've watched the 1st 3 ep's on Prime. It's already dropped

  

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3. "Season 5 - (can we get a mod edit). It is off to a great start. "
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Amos continues to be everything. i'm loving the flashbacks to his upbringing in ep 2.

i'd also love to get chike's reaction to future baltimore.

also, did cas anvar shoot the whole season before he metoo'd himself out of a job?

if not, wonder how they handle that?


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4. "Yeah, man, really good start"
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Baltimore looks like 2025 Baltimore, but I can also believe the idea that it would still be pretty recognizable 200+ year later. And that progress is not equally shared.

Amos the GOAT!

Asvarala getting chin-checked but the new PM was satisfying, even if she was right.

The Mars stuff is good too.

I'm fully with spreading it out vs. Making the whole season available at once, but now ready for episode 4!

  

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5. "have you read all the books? amz series is done after next season (6). "
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to me, it would seem like they could do the conclusion of the series as a theatrical release? (trilogy), or short term series somewhere else (netflizzle).

last three books leap 30 years into the future from the present events, so from a practical perspective (aging the entire cast every episode for a tv series that spans maybe 2 years) it would be tough to pull off. i guess it's doable, tho.


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8. "Yeah, all caught up on books. Last two have been fire!"
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Wasn't aware they were stopping the show at 6. I kinda get it. What's weird is how this show hadn't gotten up more. Get the impression it's not doing numbers, which is weird to me. Maybe the space thing scarew people off, but I'd think it would have folks locked in is they tried it.

Maybe they'll wrap it all up with a movie? Or 6 gets redone into a compressed conclusion. The fact that the authors are heavily involved gives me comfort. Also, I'm good, they've done enough that I'll be satisfied regardless.

  

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6. "Yup, I'm loving the first three episodes so far."
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Seems to have picked up the pace a bit compared to Season 4 (which looked great but kinda dragged after a while).


I had no idea this Cas stuff happened. Makes it hard to enjoy his scenes now.

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7. "yeah. even from the books, the Ilus / Season 4 was a bit of a different"
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thing from the normal flow. it accomplished a lot, though, but it hit different. you saw the alien tech running.

you got a feel for the differences in human civilization that could result from 1300 new worlds. and also a confirmation that we gonna be ssdw with it (same shit, different world).

the shit that goes down THIS season is gonna be a gut punch. fuckin marcos, man.


>Seems to have picked up the pace a bit compared to Season 4
>(which looked great but kinda dragged after a while).
>
>
>I had no idea this Cas stuff happened. Makes it hard to enjoy
>his scenes now.

it really does. he was perfectly cast (acting wise) for that character. i haven't looked into it recently, but seems like the issues w/ him were from after being on the show (and the modicum of accompanying fame). smh. i have no idea how they will resolve it. maybe kill him off and replace him w/ bobbi? (who i love and who needs moar screen time).

glad it wasn't amos that fucked up, though.


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9. "5-4: gotdamn. GOAT episode of the series?"
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Wed Dec-23-20 01:44 AM by calminvasion

  

          

So compact, but so well executed, just brilliant.


*Spoiler*

Rest In Power, Fred Johnson. Gonna miss you, brother.

  

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10. "Yeah it's definitely up there."
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I think every major plot line made major movement this week. I'm curious what's gonna happen with Amos down in that hole.

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12. "RE: Yeah it's definitely up there."
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>I think every major plot line made major movement this week.

word. it's wild b/c this one ep did so much on both an interpersonal relationship perspective (naomi and philip, amos and peaches, bobbie and alex, avrasarala and arjun), and had MAJOR action sequences.


>I'm curious what's gonna happen with Amos down in that hole.


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11. "that was so heavy. the villains keep getting worse. "
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>So compact, but so well executed, just brilliant.

yeah. this episode had so much going on. fantastic storytelling.


>
>
>*Spoiler*
>
>Rest In Power, Fred Johnson. Gonna miss you, brother.

word. that hit me hard in the books, too. i can't recall whether this was in sequence or not. but it was hella symbolic.


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13. "9.7 on IMDb / apparently the show mimics Alexander the Great's rise"
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Wanted to see if other viewers were blown away by this episode like I was, and found this user review sitting at the top. Pretty interesting:


I'm very surprised to say about a series gone this long, but Guagamela is one of the best episodes so far.

The episode has taken a lot from classical literature, especially the history of Alexander the Great's Macedonian empire. The name of the episode is a reference to one of Alexander's greatest victories, the battle of Gaugamela. Marco Inaros assumes the role of Alexander. His ship is called Pella, which was also the capital city of ancient Macedon.

Marco Inaros' (Keon Alexander) speech at the end uses a lot of rhetorical techniques used by kings and generals of the past, as written down by ancient scholars. He is a bona fide space-faring warrior-king. The juxtaposition of The Belt and ancient Macedon/Greece is very clear for those who are well versed in this part of history. The Macedonians and Greeks were vassalized and later incorporated into the Persian Empire and suffered through great ordeal and atrocities. The Persians considered themselves to be at the centre of the World, or "Inners", while the Greeks for them were at the outer edge, or "the belt" with inferior peoples. Alexander, with his Macedonian beratna and "Free Greeks" seized the Persian Empire like a lightning storm, or should I say asteroid shower. Like Alexander's army of the past, Inaros' troops care little if the casualties of the enemy are soldiers or civilians, deeming it their right to exact revenge upon their oppressors.

In his speech Inaros talks about how the outer planets and the Ring Worlds now belong to the Belters. This can be seen as a reference to what Alexander The Great told his troops - that the uncharted and unknown worlds of the east (modern India) belonged to the Hellenic peoples after the crucial victory at Gaugamela which opened the Gates of Babylon for his army. When Inaros talks about a new way of life, a better way, a Belter way, this again is what Alexander The Great's objective and conduct was. As his army moved across lands they were followed by a huge amount of architects, engineers, clergymen and scholars whose task was to establish new cities and Hellenize the conquered lands.

I lift my hat to the authors of the novels. They have done their research and fictionalized it superbly, and of course the production team for putting it all on screen so well. Now I'm very curious to find out whether Inaros faces his "mutiny at Opis" later on in the story (I have not read the books).

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14. "well damn. i didn't know about all the alexander the great tie-ins. "
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that was a hell of an episode, though.

and the next two have been really good, also. really ratcheting up the stakes.

in the books i loved the 'side mission' aspects of the split team and, of course, my favorite story line was amos and peaches. i love their dynamic. and the scene in this week's episode? dayum.


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15. "I just like anything with Amos in it."
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Partly because he's just a badass, but also because he's got this interesting loyalty vs. morality curve going on. Him lamenting how Holden wouldn't approve of their handling of that prepper guy was a nice touch.

Honestly I had to check the Wikis to figure out who Peaches was again (she was barely in the previous season and s03 has been a while), but they fit each other very well and I'm looking forward to them making their way back to the Rocinante somehow.

Only thing that threw me off a little was the visualization of her kicking ass with hers mods active. Felt a bit "no time to stage a proper action scene, let's just do some blurry shit and keep it moving" to me. Easily forgiven considering the quality of the rest of the show, though. Can't wait for the next episode.

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16. "Amos is so well written+ Wes is so perfectly cast"
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Just owns the screen anytime he’s on.


Last two episodes, a bit lower intensity, but both fantastic still. Only gripe is the earth scenes and storyline are quite small, underselling the scale of devastation. But I get it, budget is probably driving the choice to zoom in tightly into Amos and Peaches.

  

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18. "RE: Amos is so well written+ Wes is so perfectly cast <--- this. "
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>Just owns the screen anytime he’s on.

he really does. it is such a perfect incarnation of this character from book to screen. i love what he does with the role. he thinks he's a monster, but a lot of times he exhibits more humanity than anyone. and if there is an underdog in the frame he will do anything to protect them (to make up for the protection he did NOT get when he was a child being victimized and trafficked). and, he has zero fucks given, consistently, and will fuck you up if you are in his way or if you are threatening aforementioned underdogs.

>Last two episodes, a bit lower intensity, but both fantastic
>still. Only gripe is the earth scenes and storyline are quite
>small, underselling the scale of devastation. But I get it,
>budget is probably driving the choice to zoom in tightly into
>Amos and Peaches.

yep. in the books, i think it was about a third of the earth's population who was killed. like maybe 3 or 4 Bn people. the enormity of what marco has done, man.


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17. "he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series. "
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>Partly because he's just a badass, but also because he's got
>this interesting loyalty vs. morality curve going on. Him
>lamenting how Holden wouldn't approve of their handling of
>that prepper guy was a nice touch.

it really was. i don't remember from the books if that was there, but it was a very nice touch.

if you get a chance The Churn is the novella with his backstory. it's not required but it kinda fleshes out his character development. but he was abused when he was powerless. did whatever to survive. knows he doesn't have a fully functional moral compass, and therefore gravitates toward people who do (who become the objects of his trust and loyalty, as you note).

he is such a refreshing character though. i loved the exposition about the difference between someone who is good, versus pretending to be good, with that being the best possible under the circumstances.


>Honestly I had to check the Wikis to figure out who Peaches
>was again (she was barely in the previous season and s03 has
>been a while), but they fit each other very well and I'm
>looking forward to them making their way back to the Rocinante
>somehow.

yep. clarissa mao. sister of julie mao (who is the tragic figure / first contact of the proto molecule, and core of the protomolecule's human persona when the asteroid eros became self aware and steered itself to venus. before creating the ring gates). clarissa was / is nuts. the 'good girl' to her rebellious sister, striving for daddy's affection (jules-pierre mao who is the kajillionaire who financed the whole protomolecule shit and intrigue that almost killed hte solar system the first time). she got the implants to go get revenge on holden an nem.

>
>Only thing that threw me off a little was the visualization of
>her kicking ass with hers mods active. Felt a bit "no time to
>stage a proper action scene, let's just do some blurry shit
>and keep it moving" to me. Easily forgiven considering the
>quality of the rest of the show, though. Can't wait for the
>next episode.

i kinda liked it. the blurry shit (as opposed to a slow motion) gave you a sense of the high intensity + short duration action of her mods. amos was like, 'is it always like this afterward' (when she was vomiting and weak and damn near passed out). and when she says yes, he comments, "shitty design". and she responds that she wasn't really thinking long term when she did it.

i really enjoyed the short, near future fiction discourse on the implications of body modification from the last couple of eps.


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19. "RE: he is without doubt, my favorite character in the books AND series. "
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>if you get a chance The Churn is the novella with his
>backstory. it's not required but it kinda fleshes out his
>character development. but he was abused when he was
>powerless. did whatever to survive. knows he doesn't have a
>fully functional moral compass, and therefore gravitates
>toward people who do (who become the objects of his trust and
>loyalty, as you note).

I've got a huge backlog of books piling up around me, so I doubt I'll get around to it, but your summary of his character development fits very well with what I've seen onscreen. Thanks for saving me the time, I guess!

>yep. clarissa mao. sister of julie mao (who is the tragic
>figure / first contact of the proto molecule, and core of the
>protomolecule's human persona when the asteroid eros became
>self aware and steered itself to venus. before creating the
>ring gates). clarissa was / is nuts. the 'good girl' to her
>rebellious sister, striving for daddy's affection
>(jules-pierre mao who is the kajillionaire who financed the
>whole protomolecule shit and intrigue that almost killed hte
>solar system the first time). she got the implants to go get
>revenge on holden an nem.

Yeah, I only remembered her sabotaging stuff. Probably watched that season in a haze of weed, lol.

>i kinda liked it. the blurry shit (as opposed to a slow
>motion) gave you a sense of the high intensity + short
>duration action of her mods. amos was like, 'is it always like
>this afterward' (when she was vomiting and weak and damn near
>passed out). and when she says yes, he comments, "shitty
>design". and she responds that she wasn't really thinking long
>term when she did it.
>
>i really enjoyed the short, near future fiction discourse on
>the implications of body modification from the last couple of
>eps.

Yeah I didn't mind that it was over fast, or that they didn't show the action itself too much, just the visual & sound effects themselves came across as a little corny. I think it could've been done better. Like hearing a few snowy footsteps offscreen and dude getting swept off his feet in a flash. Cut to Amos standing there with a dumb look on his face and her collapsing on top of prepper guy's body. Or something, I don't know.
I really do like that the implants have a high cost associated with their use, helps to make it feel realistic instead of turning her into some kind of superhero.

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20. "Anyone want to break down the end of episode 7?"
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How long can you survive out in space? They imply that Naomi is probably good because of that shot she took? Is that other guy dead?


Yes these are dumb questions, but honestly I wanted to bump this thread.

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