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walihorse
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"I'm done with the Horror/Suspense/Thriller Genre"
Wed Oct-14-20 03:13 PM by walihorse

  

          

I just finished watching the Haunting at Bly Manor and it solidified for me my dislike for horror.

I really get nothing from it. I don't feel anything other than laugher and annoyance. My suspension of disbelief aside (which is a big reason I think why I can't get into it), Its just boring to me.

The last horror movie, I liked was Hereditary, basically it felt like a true unescapable force and the ending was interesting to me.

I'm not sure if anyone else feels this way. Last horror movie that made me scared was Hellraiser when I was a kid, everything else is just hilarious, corny, nonsensical, or boring. Edit (forgot about the Shining, I watched that as a teen, that was a great scary movie, but no longer)

Any good horror recommendations, that might change my mind?

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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Have you seen The Vanishing? (The French original)
Oct 14th 2020
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Love the Alien franchise. Though I guess I don't consider it horror.
Oct 14th 2020
2
RE: I'm done with the Horror/Suspense/Thriller Genre
Oct 14th 2020
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Thank you for the fantastic response.
Oct 15th 2020
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      you are very welcome
Oct 15th 2020
8
have you tried It Follows yet?
Oct 15th 2020
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Good call. I thought it was a modern horror classic.
Oct 15th 2020
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No, I'll check it out
Oct 15th 2020
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RE: have you tried It Follows yet?
Oct 16th 2020
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This year has had two that I really liked.
Oct 15th 2020
9
the invisible man was surprisingly very well done.
Oct 16th 2020
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I just don't get a (positive) thrill from being anxious
Oct 15th 2020
10
this is where I am with the scary flicks
Oct 16th 2020
12
have you seen The Nun?
Oct 16th 2020
11
I really dislike seeing people hurt for laughs or shock.
Oct 16th 2020
14
I feel like we see horror movies the same way
Oct 16th 2020
15
I mainly watch old ones for nostalgia now
Oct 17th 2020
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I used to dismiss the whole genre, too
Oct 21st 2020
18
Hereditary was my sheet...
Oct 21st 2020
19
watchin 'Helstrom' now on HULU...
Oct 24th 2020
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stylez dainty
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1. "Have you seen The Vanishing? (The French original)"
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That's more stomach-churning suspense than horror, but it's definitely horrific(to me). But no supernatural elements or gore that might make something hokey.

What about sci-fi horror like Alien?

What movies do you like? That could help provide a suggestion.

Also, if you find horror movies annoying, you might get a kick out of Cabin in the Woods, which pokes (loving) fun at horror tropes. It's not scary, but it's really funny to me.

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walihorse
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2. "Love the Alien franchise. Though I guess I don't consider it horror."
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I enjoy various genres. Another horror movie I liked was the Babadook. I haven't seen Cabin in the Woods or the Vanishinh. I'll check them out.

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howisya
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Wed Oct-14-20 07:46 PM

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3. "RE: I'm done with the Horror/Suspense/Thriller Genre"
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i lump horror, suspense, and thriller together, too, but truthfully the latter two also exist without elements of horror. people can also wax poetic about the differences between horror and fantasy (which you didn't mention but are also often put together along with sci-fi), and talking about suspense and thriller, mystery is right there, too.


>I just finished watching the Haunting at Bly Manor and it
>solidified for me my dislike for horror.

this is literally the first review or opinion i've read of this. i've been waiting to hear. i still haven't watched The Haunting of Hill House, even though i've heard almost nothing but good things and like the original. i thought there was a sequel series to that coming, but then this happened (instead?).

i don't know why people keep remaking The Turn of the Screw. this is the second one just this year, and The Innocents from 1961 is already regarded as a classic.

i know he's popular on this board, but it might reveal a bit about Mike Flanagan that he's so prone to tread well worn ground, even though i'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's basically a victim of IP mania.


>I'm not sure if anyone else feels this way. Last horror movie
>that made me scared was Hellraiser when I was a kid,
>everything else is just hilarious, corny, nonsensical, or
>boring. Edit (forgot about the Shining, I watched that as a
>teen, that was a great scary movie, but no longer)
>
>Any good horror recommendations, that might change my mind?

i am going to interpret this as new releases for the moment. going back to Flanagan, his film Oculus (WWE studios) was one of the horror films of the previous decade i watched expecting little and was surprised by how good it was. i'd sort of counted out horror myself since it went in the teensploitation direction in the late '90s and then cycled through remakes and sequels.

Oculus getting under my skin put him on my radar, but it wasn't until (shining sequel) Doctor Sleep came out and i saw it in the theater that i would see more from him. i found rebecca ferguson really unnerving in that one; great job from everyone.

the film released before Oculus that really creeped me out was Sinister. i was happy to see it covered at length in the season premiere of History of Horror on AMC this past weekend (serious spoilers for those who haven't seen the film already). it was directed by Scott Derrickson, who would go on to do Doctor Strange, so for surrealist imagery, it's there in a much more disturbing way. the music is also excellent in it and really builds up the creep factor; it's incredible this was a studio picture aside from having an A-list star and a plot that isn't complex.

another one i was glad to see History of Horror spotlight was The Cabin in the Woods (again, huge spoilers in the show). that and Drag Me to Hell i thought were flukes in signalling horror was back for me, but i was wrong.

for something more recent, on a smaller budget, and international, i thought The Babadook delivered on my expectations when i finally watched.

i also found the first chapter of IT very unsettling and well made but haven't yet watched the (less well received) conclusion.

there really are all manners of horror, evidenced by the crisscross with those other categories, so it's hard to recommend or discuss it as a blanket genre. a person could find it all stupid except for a certain type.

i still really like watching cult classics. i just today ordered April Fool's Day after streaming it on netflix a few years ago, and i believe it's streaming on amazon prime video right now. one i watched on APV just this week i'd been wanting to see for years, the horror comedy buddy cop movie Dead Heat. the effects, laughs, and chemistry were great, so if someone is in the mood for something lighter and doesn't mind more zombie stuff, check it.

  

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6. "Thank you for the fantastic response. "
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I will look into Oculus.

I'm apologize for lumping so much together. I guess I should have really said supernatural horror. Those jump scares and paranormal stuff is really what I have come to have a disdain for.

I was thinking about it and I loved George Romero's Living Dead series. Especially night and dawn.

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8. "you are very welcome"
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there's nothing to be sorry about either. there really are plenty of movies that blur the lines between horror and suspense or thriller. as stylez pointed out, The Vanishing is fantastic. if you like or are interested in korean movies, perhaps after the oscar wins for parasite this year, another movie i streamed years back on netflix and went on to buy was I Saw the Devil, which is deranged and amazing. when it comes to gripping movies about psychos and scary situations, it's almost splitting hairs to get into what is and isn't horror.


>I guess I should
>have really said supernatural horror. Those jump scares and
>paranormal stuff is really what I have come to have a disdain
>for.

that can definitely get formulaic. they must rake in money because every year those cheesy movies kept coming out. that doesn't mean some people aren't making them well, but it can be difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff.


>I was thinking about it and I loved George Romero's Living
>Dead series. Especially night and dawn.

yes, they are great, and those two are the high points. i also like day of, as it's basically a critique of government and military.

  

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4. "have you tried It Follows yet?"
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stylez dainty
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5. "Good call. I thought it was a modern horror classic."
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Some cool ideas and artfully made, but doesn't let artiness keep it from being yell at the screen scary.

Only part I didn't care for is some of the effects work in certain scenes, which came across as sort of goofy to me. Would have preferred a more ambiguous less literal representation

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7. "No, I'll check it out"
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16. "RE: have you tried It Follows yet?"
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9. "This year has had two that I really liked."
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The Invisible Man and Host (which I made a post about). Very different, but both very good.

To me. They may not change your mind. Which is fine. It's also okay just to be done with a certain type of movie for a while.



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13. "the invisible man was surprisingly very well done."
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more suspense/thriller than traditional horror (just so the op knows).

but i was expecting some third rate lifeless modern remake. you can tell someone really cared about this shit and put their heart into it lol.

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10. "I just don't get a (positive) thrill from being anxious"
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I'm already the sort of dude that expects to get fired every day before he walks into work, I can't wrap my head around being entertained by stress unless the movie itself is pretty good.


I do like thrillers though, I guess I specifically mean jump scares. I jump at all kinds of loud noises and flinch at all kinds of sudden movements; there were times in theaters where I'd react to a Marvel movie like it was an Annabelle film. Shutter Island, The Shining, the basement scene of Zodiac, all that sort of stuff feels earned.


But outside the '80s classics which I find redeemably campy (I especially love Halloween as a series for being so self-indulgent, and Michael Myers honestly isn't scary unless you can convince yourself "ThiS COulD REAllY HapPEn~~~~" somehow.


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12. "this is where I am with the scary flicks"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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11. "have you seen The Nun?"
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I fucking dislike horror movies but my wife loves them so we have some compromise

I super enjoyed the nun, I felt like it was a bit scary and there were also some parts that were unexpectedly hilarious

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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14. "I really dislike seeing people hurt for laughs or shock. "
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I also don't like gruesome for gruesome sake movies.

I can completely do without all of that.

So the whole Saw Franchise (after the first) and all the copy cats I was not interested in. No interest in the Final Destination type movies.

I do love thrillers and suspense. So yeah the build up in Get Out is my ish. It's the reason why one of my all time favorite movies is Silence of the Lambs (but hated the gruesomeness and shock value of Hannibal).

I love the story how Brad Pitt ran out of money for the big zombie fight scene in World War Z so they settled in the ending in the movie which is just him moving quietly through a lab. That's the difference between suspense and horror.



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15. "I feel like we see horror movies the same way"
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I don't believe in supernatural horror either, so a lot of it doesn't resonate. the Conjuring series bored me to tears. and the strict gore movies are mostly banal or even unintentionally hilarious.

conversely, Hereditary was also one of my favorites of any genre two years ago, because it was just extremely well-made. enjoyed It Follows and The Babadook because they had interesting premises and didn't overstay themselves. The Cabin in the Woods was OK; I got the meta part but it wasn't as purely entertaining to me.

I haven't watched much Asian horror, but Audition stands out in my memory for a few truly creepy scenes. The Wailing was interesting, but too long.

I also like the classics: Halloween is great, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist was surprisingly obscene...the latter two I saw for the first time in the last decade, and they still held up.

my recommendation would be Green Room (2015) -- Saulnier is divisive and it's more of a thriller, but it definitely uses violence and macabre in a way that the Saw rip-offs never could. I like The Witch (2015) quite a bit as well, even it took me about 3 start-stops to finish it.

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17. "I mainly watch old ones for nostalgia now"
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I watched the first 2 Phantasm movies this week. They are pretty awful films but I still love them. lol I think its why I like David Lynch movies as well tho, movies that there is some type of illogical plot that you try to figure out but never really understand because its probably all someone's messed up dream.

  

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18. "I used to dismiss the whole genre, too"
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but after spending way too much time scrolling through the same ol' stuff in Netflix, I decided to expand my horizons a bit.

in the past few months, I've watched several:

Suspiria (the original) - excellent as a sight/sound experience, but not very scary.

Wrong Turn, You're Next and Don't Breathe - similar in their grounded style. no real supernatural elements to struggle to accept. Don't Breathe was the best.

An American Werewolf in London - cool seeing cutting-edge practical effects in the pre-CG era. but the comedy elements fell flat for me.

The Invitation - I recommend this, although it's more suspense/thriller. unsettling and memorable, and the mostly unrecognizable cast (to me, at least) helped with immersion.

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19. "Hereditary was my sheet..."
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THAT one was a keeper!
Havent seen one as good as Hereditary since then (though, truth be told, i've missed many in the genre since then)

That said, a few good ones ive seen since then were actually tv mini series... "Servant" on AppleTV and "The Outsider" on HBO..."Haunting of Hill House" was also a good watch...






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20. "watchin 'Helstrom' now on HULU..."
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...digging it so far...

  

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