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navajo joe
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"Da 5 Bloods (Lee 2020)"


  

          

Full Trailer for Spike's first Netflix joint

https://youtu.be/D5RDTPfsLAI

I love how overstuffed and unconventional the trailer is

I also LOVE seeing Delroy Lindo in a major film role. He's one of my favorite actors of all time

Films about black soldiers in Vietnam are criminally rare and I really hope this turns out great.

I'm on record as HATING Black KKKlansman despite some really great elements so I'm hoping Spike can nail this

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
-Bree Newsome Bass

  

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Huge Spike Lee fan... totally hated Black KKKlansman
May 25th 2020
1
Good point about the lack of Vietnam stories feat. Black soldiers
May 25th 2020
2
The Walking Dead is the only one I remember watching
May 26th 2020
4
Looks really good
May 26th 2020
3
Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titles
May 28th 2020
5
thank you
May 28th 2020
6
RE: Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titl...
May 28th 2020
7
RE: Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titl...
May 28th 2020
8
its his trademark. He understands branding and you don't
Sep 23rd 2020
27
I don't like a lot of Spike's work, but actually interested in this
Jun 01st 2020
9
*Searches IMDB for Written By. Please Please Please let it be...."
Jun 04th 2020
10
that's some revisionist bullshit... he also wrote the following:
Jun 04th 2020
11
      Spike is probably my favorite filmmaker, and those are all good films,
Jun 04th 2020
12
      almost all of those films thegodcam listed are considered his classics
Jun 12th 2020
15
      I have to agree with Buddy
Jun 12th 2020
16
Just finished it and I’m wondering peoples tnoughts
Jun 12th 2020
13
yeah i wanted to like this.
Jun 12th 2020
14
      I was on my phone for the last 30 minutes (spoilers)
Jun 12th 2020
17
i found it pretty messy
Jun 13th 2020
18
Pretty good. Liked it a lot.
Jun 15th 2020
19
i think i've outgrown Sipke Lee
Jun 17th 2020
20
his version of Treasure Of The Sierra Madre
Jun 23rd 2020
21
Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike
Jun 24th 2020
22
RE: Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike
Jul 31st 2020
24
      honestly I thought it was a budget issue.
Aug 01st 2020
25
      i assumed that was just a conscious gimmick
Aug 02nd 2020
26
      RE: Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike
Sep 25th 2020
29
           you're right. it was a deliberate choice by Spike.
Sep 25th 2020
30
           an eerie layer now since Chadwick will never reach their ages
Sep 26th 2020
31
wanted to like it
Jul 13th 2020
23
I feel dumb for letting y'all keep me from watching it for this long.
Sep 23rd 2020
28

thegodcam
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1. "Huge Spike Lee fan... totally hated Black KKKlansman"
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crossing my fingers

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obsidianchrysalis
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2. "Good point about the lack of Vietnam stories feat. Black soldiers"
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Like there's Dead Presidents and what else?

Anyway, this looks alright. Something more in line with Get Off the Bus than his films that are very direct like Do the Right Thing or even Black KKKlansman. I actually liked Get Off the Bus alot so this movie may be my speed.

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Frank Mackey
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4. "The Walking Dead is the only one I remember watching"
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114888/

  

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ProgressiveSound
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3. "Looks really good"
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5. "Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titles"
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Spike is a genius. Love his films and the space he uses to create his stories. But some the titles he uses feels dated. He did it with "Da" Sweet Blood of Jesus" and now with "Da" 5 Bloods, Kind of like the old guy at the club still dressing like he's 18 years old.

Still, i'm looking forward to seeing this. I'm glad its going to Netflix since I just copped a new OLED. Perfect timing for viewing another masterpiece.

  

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6. "thank you"
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obsidianchrysalis
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7. "RE: Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titl..."
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>... Kind of like the old guy at the club still dressing
>like he's 18 years old.


I agree with all of what you said, but it's funny to me that he literally does still dress like he's 18. At least his color palatte. But Spike's a legend, I say, let him cook.

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rdhull
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8. "RE: Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titl..."
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>>... Kind of like the old guy at the club still dressing
>>like he's 18 years old.
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>I agree with all of what you said, but it's funny to me that
>he literally does still dress like he's 18. At least his color
>palatte. But Spike's a legend, I say, let him cook.

Haha reminds me of when he said something criticizing Tim Burton for looking like a crazy homeless person etc when he was called on something.

  

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27. "its his trademark. He understands branding and you don't"
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you know its a spike lee joint when you see it tho don't you?



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CherNic
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9. "I don't like a lot of Spike's work, but actually interested in this"
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10. "*Searches IMDB for Written By. Please Please Please let it be....""
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not written by Spike Lee"

Yes!!!!!!!!!

Spike Lee's Filmography of films not written by him is his best work:

Malcolm X
25th Hour
Clockers
Inside Man
Get on the Bus....

His worst works seem to be predominately written by him (EXCEPT for Do the Right Thing which is improv heavy)

Sweet Blood of Jesus
She Hate Me
Red Hook Summer


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11. "that's some revisionist bullshit... he also wrote the following:"
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School daze
Mo better blues
Jungle fever
Crooklyn
He got game
Bamboozled

which are all dope

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12. "Spike is probably my favorite filmmaker, and those are all good films, "
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but they are almost all second tier Spike Lee films. I stand by my statements that the ones I named (and Do the Right Thing) are Spike's best films.


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15. "almost all of those films thegodcam listed are considered his classics"
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by the general public. his most culturally ingrained work.

how are you defining second tier?

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obsidianchrysalis
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16. "I have to agree with Buddy"
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I've seen those movies and those movies have really bold socialpolitical themes and all have Spike's signature style, even more than the movies he didn't write. But they just don't hold up well in a technical sense.

Even Do the Right Thing, which was so impressive for its time, doesn't hold up all that well to me.

I like Spike but his style is too heavy handed and suffocating for my tastes. I prefer his movies that he doesn't write because the style is more subtle but still has his signature edge and perspective.

I don't think that makes Spike a bad filmmaker. He's a legend, if only for getting his movies made in Hollywood, especially in the 80's and 90's where he and his collaboratives made up all of Black Hollywood of that time.

He's just a bit too close to his source material when he writes his movies and so his work comes off heavy handed and limited in scope. Tarantino is cut from the same cloth. His movies have a very distinct and clear style. But my favorite movie of his, Jackie Brown, was a story he didn't create from scratch.

Maybe Spike gets spread too thin during pre-production and can't dedicate enough time to honing his voice during production? Maybe he gets defensive about his writing and doesn't become open to other points of view?

The reason for the difference is worth studying tho.

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13. "Just finished it and I’m wondering peoples tnoughts"
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I think there is a good movie in here somewhere. As is I didn’t enjoy it.

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14. "yeah i wanted to like this."
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it was a chore to get through.

he should thank the cast...particularly the older group...for carrying it as much as they could.

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17. "I was on my phone for the last 30 minutes (spoilers)"
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by the time they got to the gold I was done with the movie. Then we have the face off with the locals. I didnt care anymore. Good performances. But this was a mess of a movie. Spike really went out of his way to fire off rounds at Donald Trump. Also the way he shoe horned in facts about unknown black heroes took me out of it right away. First what 15 minutes he hit us with 2 or 3 of them? I mean i get it important forgotten black heroes. But the way it was done felt so unnatural and didnt flow.

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18. "i found it pretty messy"
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and unnecessarily long.

some individual moments and performances i really enjoyed but as a whole... meh.

"good movie in there somewhere" is a good way to describe it.

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19. "Pretty good. Liked it a lot. "
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Enjoyed it a lot more than I did "The Irishman".

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20. "i think i've outgrown Sipke Lee"
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mind u, i liked the She's gotta have it Netflix series... but the majority of his flicks in the last few yrs, i just didnt care for.... dude literally changed my life.... but im done waiting anxiously for his next creative output...

it's been real

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21. "his version of Treasure Of The Sierra Madre"
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and he didn't disappoint

  

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22. "Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike"
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That is, most of the things I disliked about this movie seem squarely Director's choices.

My father-in-law (RIP) use to blast his music all the time, no matter if the TV was on, convos were happening, whatever. It seems to be a trait of older men like Spike, Oliver Stone and Martin Scorcese.

For the love of mike Spike, edit your work more. Could have easily shaved 20 minutes off and probably would have been better served if 40 minutes were gone. Why did the scene of them actually finding the goal take so long?

I am not that familiar with Norman Lewis but the way they did that dude visually. Spolier: let me just come out and say it, having the dude up there with no arms and legs was just a bad call by Spike. My least favorite visual in film in years.

The decision to have those old actors to play there younger selves was just a terrible decision. Why do these older directors (thinking Scorcese and the Irishman) not want to give work to younger actors?!?! You telling me it made sense for Isiah Whitlock Jr. to play a younger version of himself rather than Roy Woods Jr.?

I think Spike had a good script and a good story, and he spiked it up and turned it into a melodramatic tyler perry stage play.

When it opened with these old black men getting together in the hotel lobby I was hyped because I saw my dad everytime he would see his boys.

A few other good moments. Lindo is a beast, but mostly not great.

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24. "RE: Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike"
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>The decision to have those old actors to play there younger
>selves was just a terrible decision. Why do these older
>directors (thinking Scorcese and the Irishman) not want to
>give work to younger actors?!?! You telling me it made sense
>for Isiah Whitlock Jr. to play a younger version of himself
>rather than Roy Woods Jr.?
>

seemed like no effort to make them look believably young either. how old are they supposed to be in present time? they looked at least 40 in the flashbacks, more like 50. flashbacks were what 50+ years ago?

im telling myself that all the flashbacks were actually dreams of paul. he only has the reference of norman from back then so he stayed the same age but the rest of them are basically the present age in his dreams. sure that makes enough sense lol

  

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25. "honestly I thought it was a budget issue."
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Which I'm okay with in principle since constraints usually make things interesting but yeah in this case it was just distracting.

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26. "i assumed that was just a conscious gimmick"
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the first flashback i thought it was an interesting choice, then it just became distracting

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29. "RE: Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike"
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>seemed like no effort to make them look believably young either. how old are they supposed to be in present time? they looked at least 40 in the flashbacks, more like 50. flashbacks were what 50+ years ago?

i thought it was obvious that it was a choice that they didn't attempt to de-age them at all. they were just flashing back, but as their older current ages. like a memory you would have but while looking in the mirror. clearly Boseman is his younger self...cause he died in battle.
maybe I'm wrong...

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30. "you're right. it was a deliberate choice by Spike."
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31. "an eerie layer now since Chadwick will never reach their ages"
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23. "wanted to like it "
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28. "I feel dumb for letting y'all keep me from watching it for this long."
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I read this post back then and avoided the film...when i should have paid more attention to WHO was saying it was bad...folks w/consistently trash opinions about most things so i should have ignored them.

I watched it in the past week and I loved it. I watched it again w/my son.

First and foremost, give Delroy Lindo ALL the props for this shit...he was electric every time he was on screen...brilliant, sorrowful, mesmerizing, terrifying but yet and still you feel for him and the pain/guilt he's carried for an entire life ...it made me wonder if other Black vietnam vets felt seen and heard through this film..

i like the license he took as a director to include Norm as a memory instead of an actual flashback..that way you solve for having to provide younger versions of the other 4

the scene of them finding out MLK was murdered was interesting because it never occured to me before how that must have felt for the Black GIs at that time..not being at home then...

personally, i like Spike's filmmaking style...its his own...its Black AF...its off-kilter...i appreciate the madcap chaos he creates that is still believeable and compelling...and tragic, cuz they almost all ended up dying in vietnam anyway

were there some corny elements? yes. we didn't need the long lost daughter thing...but i personally enjoy imperfections in any piece of art. And Spike is an artist, period.

Bonus moments: "Sheeeeeiiiiiiittttttt" and "why don't you put the gold on craigslist!" LOL

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