2. "Good point about the lack of Vietnam stories feat. Black soldiers" In response to Reply # 0
Like there's Dead Presidents and what else?
Anyway, this looks alright. Something more in line with Get Off the Bus than his films that are very direct like Do the Right Thing or even Black KKKlansman. I actually liked Get Off the Bus alot so this movie may be my speed.
5. "Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titles" In response to Reply # 0
Spike is a genius. Love his films and the space he uses to create his stories. But some the titles he uses feels dated. He did it with "Da" Sweet Blood of Jesus" and now with "Da" 5 Bloods, Kind of like the old guy at the club still dressing like he's 18 years old.
Still, i'm looking forward to seeing this. I'm glad its going to Netflix since I just copped a new OLED. Perfect timing for viewing another masterpiece.
8. "RE: Love Spike. I just wish he would stop with the "da" shit in his titl..." In response to Reply # 7
>>... Kind of like the old guy at the club still dressing >>like he's 18 years old. > > >I agree with all of what you said, but it's funny to me that >he literally does still dress like he's 18. At least his color >palatte. But Spike's a legend, I say, let him cook.
Haha reminds me of when he said something criticizing Tim Burton for looking like a crazy homeless person etc when he was called on something.
16. "I have to agree with Buddy" In response to Reply # 11
I've seen those movies and those movies have really bold socialpolitical themes and all have Spike's signature style, even more than the movies he didn't write. But they just don't hold up well in a technical sense.
Even Do the Right Thing, which was so impressive for its time, doesn't hold up all that well to me.
I like Spike but his style is too heavy handed and suffocating for my tastes. I prefer his movies that he doesn't write because the style is more subtle but still has his signature edge and perspective.
I don't think that makes Spike a bad filmmaker. He's a legend, if only for getting his movies made in Hollywood, especially in the 80's and 90's where he and his collaboratives made up all of Black Hollywood of that time.
He's just a bit too close to his source material when he writes his movies and so his work comes off heavy handed and limited in scope. Tarantino is cut from the same cloth. His movies have a very distinct and clear style. But my favorite movie of his, Jackie Brown, was a story he didn't create from scratch.
Maybe Spike gets spread too thin during pre-production and can't dedicate enough time to honing his voice during production? Maybe he gets defensive about his writing and doesn't become open to other points of view?
The reason for the difference is worth studying tho.
17. "I was on my phone for the last 30 minutes (spoilers)" In response to Reply # 14
by the time they got to the gold I was done with the movie. Then we have the face off with the locals. I didnt care anymore. Good performances. But this was a mess of a movie. Spike really went out of his way to fire off rounds at Donald Trump. Also the way he shoe horned in facts about unknown black heroes took me out of it right away. First what 15 minutes he hit us with 2 or 3 of them? I mean i get it important forgotten black heroes. But the way it was done felt so unnatural and didnt flow.
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20. "i think i've outgrown Sipke Lee" In response to Reply # 0
mind u, i liked the She's gotta have it Netflix series... but the majority of his flicks in the last few yrs, i just didnt care for.... dude literally changed my life.... but im done waiting anxiously for his next creative output...
it's been real
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22. "Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike" In response to Reply # 0
That is, most of the things I disliked about this movie seem squarely Director's choices.
My father-in-law (RIP) use to blast his music all the time, no matter if the TV was on, convos were happening, whatever. It seems to be a trait of older men like Spike, Oliver Stone and Martin Scorcese.
For the love of mike Spike, edit your work more. Could have easily shaved 20 minutes off and probably would have been better served if 40 minutes were gone. Why did the scene of them actually finding the goal take so long?
I am not that familiar with Norman Lewis but the way they did that dude visually. Spolier: let me just come out and say it, having the dude up there with no arms and legs was just a bad call by Spike. My least favorite visual in film in years.
The decision to have those old actors to play there younger selves was just a terrible decision. Why do these older directors (thinking Scorcese and the Irishman) not want to give work to younger actors?!?! You telling me it made sense for Isiah Whitlock Jr. to play a younger version of himself rather than Roy Woods Jr.?
I think Spike had a good script and a good story, and he spiked it up and turned it into a melodramatic tyler perry stage play.
When it opened with these old black men getting together in the hotel lobby I was hyped because I saw my dad everytime he would see his boys.
A few other good moments. Lindo is a beast, but mostly not great.
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24. "RE: Man what I mess, and I mainly blame Spike" In response to Reply # 22
>The decision to have those old actors to play there younger >selves was just a terrible decision. Why do these older >directors (thinking Scorcese and the Irishman) not want to >give work to younger actors?!?! You telling me it made sense >for Isiah Whitlock Jr. to play a younger version of himself >rather than Roy Woods Jr.? >
seemed like no effort to make them look believably young either. how old are they supposed to be in present time? they looked at least 40 in the flashbacks, more like 50. flashbacks were what 50+ years ago?
im telling myself that all the flashbacks were actually dreams of paul. he only has the reference of norman from back then so he stayed the same age but the rest of them are basically the present age in his dreams. sure that makes enough sense lol