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"Lil Dickey's Dave is the best Comedy on TV right now (2020 FX)"


  

          

It shares alot of DNA with Atlanta. It's crazy that FX has two shows about Rappers trying to come up that are so different and don't step on each other toes.

This scene right here is a whole TED Talk on how black people compartmentalize hood trauma.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1238238710254030850

Watch the first three Episodes on Hulu and come back and thank me.



We need to talk about episode 3 in particular.




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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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just started watching this last night. it's not.
Mar 17th 2020
1
Yeah... I have absolutely no interest in a Lil Dicky tv show. None.
Mar 17th 2020
2
you already fucking off comparing it to Atlanta
Mar 17th 2020
3
I'm enjoying it, very self aware and self deprecating
Mar 17th 2020
4
It makes me chuckle but it's NOT Atlanta
Mar 17th 2020
5
It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity
Mar 18th 2020
6
RE: It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity
Mar 18th 2020
7
      Cot damn yall really don't like little dicky
Mar 19th 2020
8
           Ironically everything people are mad at him about
Mar 19th 2020
9
                Thank You! Everything people are dismissing this from Jump about...
Mar 26th 2020
15
                     we understand what it's saying. it's just not a complex thing to say
Mar 26th 2020
16
                          it wasn't about being in macklemore's shadow
Mar 27th 2020
18
                          What's wrong with Freaky Friday? That shit is Hilarious.
Mar 28th 2020
21
It's fine. Maybe it'll get better. But it's no Atlanta.
Mar 20th 2020
10
Atlanta without the surrealism. Funny as hell admittedly
Mar 21st 2020
11
episode 5 went more for drama than the first four eps
Mar 27th 2020
19
      Easily the best Ep so far. And it was dope because it was about somethin...
Mar 28th 2020
20
           also respect that they showed the possible down side to the meds...
Mar 31st 2020
23
He's better at acting than rapping.
Mar 21st 2020
12
It's got to be Jeff Schaffer that a character can be so fully formed in ...
Mar 23rd 2020
13
RE: He's better at acting than rapping.
Mar 29th 2020
22
I am entertained
Mar 26th 2020
14
(C)
Mar 27th 2020
17
that wireless headphone party scene was pretty cool.
Apr 17th 2020
24
All caught up now. Smashed through most of it today
Apr 18th 2020
25
I have an issue with it: I'm not on Dave's side
Apr 24th 2020
26
      Well, the last episode seemd purposely designed to make you not...
Apr 27th 2020
29
           Man, I haven't even seen that episode yet
Apr 27th 2020
31
this last episode was borderline unbearable to me.
Apr 25th 2020
27
The episode successfully made the girlfriend a person/character
Apr 27th 2020
28
Anyone else think they were going for a Get Out style ep at first?
Apr 27th 2020
30
I am not sure the audience for this show.
Apr 29th 2020
32
Ramy and Russian Doll both better IMO
Apr 30th 2020
33
If we include looking back a year Fleabag would be the best to me.
May 01st 2020
34
Don't sleep on Barry
May 12th 2020
37
The season finale Jail was pretty good
May 04th 2020
35
officially fx highest rated comedy series ever.
May 12th 2020
36
Not loving the second season so far.
Jun 21st 2021
38
But he wasn't loveable last season
Jun 22nd 2021
39
Feels a lot like we're treading water.
Jul 09th 2021
42
the Chuck stuff in ep 3 almost broke my spirit
Jun 27th 2021
40
The Full Frat Boy Humor was hard to bear
Jul 08th 2021
41
      agreed on the code switching.
Jul 13th 2021
43
WTF is Doja Cat thinking?
Jul 25th 2021
44
She was fiiiiiine in that ep tho
Jul 26th 2021
45
You not lying
Jul 26th 2021
47
Outside of getting clowned on twitter
Jul 26th 2021
46
Losing credibility with "us" costs you cache with them.
Jul 26th 2021
48
      Doja Cat has never been overly concerned with her black audience. LOL.
Jul 27th 2021
49
      You know.... I guess she is more pop than anything else.
Jul 27th 2021
51
           She is tho tbh
Jul 28th 2021
52
      Niggas get drug on Black Twitter everyday B
Aug 02nd 2021
57
lol it’s so on brand for her to fw a Dave though
Jul 29th 2021
53
      I mean.... that's kinda what I was thinking.
Aug 04th 2021
58
Ok the XXL Episode has been one of its best by far.
Jul 27th 2021
50
What is the point of this season?
Jul 30th 2021
54
EVERY TIME I think he's turning a corner
Jul 31st 2021
55
      Sorta hoping they pull an Uncut Gems on him
Aug 01st 2021
56
So that last episode....
Aug 10th 2021
59
Easily my least favorite episode of the show...
Aug 13th 2021
62
The Finale.
Aug 13th 2021
60
RE: The Finale.
Aug 13th 2021
61
agreed.
Aug 16th 2021
63
I thought her reasoning was fair, but she didn't acknowledge it.
Aug 16th 2021
64
I didn't buy it: Spoiler
Aug 18th 2021
65
      I agree. I didn't buy it either.
Aug 20th 2021
66

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1. "just started watching this last night. it's not. "
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2. "Yeah... I have absolutely no interest in a Lil Dicky tv show. None."
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3. "you already fucking off comparing it to Atlanta"
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I'm 1000% sure this show isn't great lmao. Also 1000% sure I will never watch it

  

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4. "I'm enjoying it, very self aware and self deprecating"
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Lil Dicky's music is what it is, not my cup of tea but not without moments I've enjoyed (Save Dat Money, the Chris Brown collab/video), but I'm enjoying the show so far.

  

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5. "It makes me chuckle but it's NOT Atlanta"
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Not even close. That comparison is off, this is pure millennial TV. There's no deeper meaning in the shit Dave "Lil Dickey" does or goes through. I'd rather have a Spice Adams show.

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6. "It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity"
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Because Shade 45 and 8 Mile isn't enough.
Because Ghostface style robber Action Bronson having 100 Vice shows isn't enough.
Because Machine Gun Kelly in Big Time Adolescence isn't enough.
Because Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar for best rap album isn't enough.
Because Vanilla Ice's shows aren't enough.
Because Riff Raff's generous dick sucking for Spring Breakers wasn't enough.
Because Post Malone in Spencer For Hire isn't enough.

  

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7. "RE: It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity"
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Yeah I just don’t want to patronize someone who is mocking the genre of music that I love

>Because Shade 45 and 8 Mile isn't enough.
>Because Ghostface style robber Action Bronson having 100 Vice
>shows isn't enough.
>Because Machine Gun Kelly in Big Time Adolescence isn't
>enough.
>Because Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar for best rap album
>isn't enough.
>Because Vanilla Ice's shows aren't enough.
>Because Riff Raff's generous dick sucking for Spring Breakers
>wasn't enough.
>Because Post Malone in Spencer For Hire isn't enough.
>

  

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8. "Cot damn yall really don't like little dicky"
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I wasn't a huge fan of his but did find some of his stuff funny and the dude has flow.

Why do you think he is patronizing hip-hop? Cuz he is white? Because he is white and does funny raps?












>Yeah I just don’t want to patronize someone who is mocking
>the genre of music that I love
>
>>Because Shade 45 and 8 Mile isn't enough.
>>Because Ghostface style robber Action Bronson having 100
>Vice
>>shows isn't enough.
>>Because Machine Gun Kelly in Big Time Adolescence isn't
>>enough.
>>Because Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar for best rap album
>>isn't enough.
>>Because Vanilla Ice's shows aren't enough.
>>Because Riff Raff's generous dick sucking for Spring
>Breakers
>>wasn't enough.
>>Because Post Malone in Spencer For Hire isn't enough.
>>
>


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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9. "Ironically everything people are mad at him about"
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he addresses in one of the eps.

His name, his "lane," etc

At the end of the day, like I said in my post above, I'm not a big fan of his music, but I am a fan of funny shit, and to me, this show is funny.

"That's a great shirt, where'd you get it?"
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15. "Thank You! Everything people are dismissing this from Jump about..."
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is what the show is about.


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16. "we understand what it's saying. it's just not a complex thing to say"
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Thu Mar-26-20 07:59 PM by rob

  

          

i like the show. i think he is actually incredibly intelligent and skilled. he has punchlines and true timing.

the problem is he's already done this story before in other formats, and he always takes the off ramp to self deprecation instead of embracing self awareness and growth. i'd be shocked if he wasn't constantly having his audience age out on him because they're maturing while his content isn't.

being in macklemore's shadow isn't an interesting problem to have in 2020 - they both have been viral for the better part of a decade now. and macklemore's lead came from, you know, grinding and being part of a city's music community.

it does get incredibly grating to have him vacillate between acknowledging his privilege and gimmicks and then throw a freaky friday collab out there. or him depict a romantic relationship on the show with a character that's the classic trope of totally self absorbed dude with a wonderfully supportive and creative partner - especially when we see how it parallels how he's always dealt with women in his music.

the last episode about gata was by far the best one because it wasn't about lil dicky.

  

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18. "it wasn't about being in macklemore's shadow"
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it was about a certain type of hip hop fan (aka white person) who doesn't like rap unless it's a white rapper. the parents were saying that their kid liked rappers like dicky and macklemore, when musically they aren't very related, it's clear that "like" dicky and macklemore = white

>being in macklemore's shadow isn't an interesting problem to
>have in 2020 - they both have been viral for the better part
>of a decade now. and macklemore's lead came from, you know,
>grinding and being part of a city's music community.
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21. "What's wrong with Freaky Friday? That shit is Hilarious. "
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I am seeing from this post that Dickey carries a lot of baggage with him which is making people unwilling to give the show a chance. A few people here have stated they won't check out the show on principal.

I don't know Dicky like that. I have heard one album once, Seen the Sway freestyles (so know he can rap), and thought the Chris Brown joint was funny. If his schtick is old for rap heads I doubt that's the case for TV viewers.

And I hope by the end of the season it grows beyond dick jokes. I imagine this show will follow a typical tv season growth Arc and we will see him grow as a character over the season. I think we are seeing something like that already with the great Gata episode.

Anyway, I think folks are over analysing it a bit. Either it's funny or not. I get how it may not be that funny if you are not a Dicky fan.

But not thinking about it from a music/artist standpoint, I think it's pretty F'ing funny.

I hope it keeps up the momentum.
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10. "It's fine. Maybe it'll get better. But it's no Atlanta. "
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11. "Atlanta without the surrealism. Funny as hell admittedly"
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The end of Episode 3 was the funniest moment in TV so far this year if you ask me

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19. "episode 5 went more for drama than the first four eps"
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Fri Mar-27-20 10:33 PM by spirit

  

          

Admirable that they took the time to develop Gator but would be cooler if they did that by having him have friends and a significant other like the other characters.*

Decent exploration of mental health tho re: Gator

* Now that I think about it the Black DJ doesn’t have a girl either. But at least he has a career separate from Dave.



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20. "Easily the best Ep so far. And it was dope because it was about somethin..."
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heavy. I've never seen that side of mental health on a TV show. I was genuinely happy to see dude not flip out and act out but have grown enough to talk out what he is going through. Legit going through that with people in my own life. It was dope.

>Admirable that they took the time to develop Gator but would
>be cooler if they did that by having him have friends and a
>significant other like the other characters.*

I mean not everyone has a girlfriend but it did speak to the relationship with his mother and his relationship with people in his world prior to running into Dicky. Sounds like you wanted to see the characters in his world developed but the truth is the show is about dickey so I was happy to see the supporting black character in his world developed in a half hour sitcom.




>
>Decent exploration of mental health tho re: Gator
>
>* Now that I think about it the Black DJ doesn’t have a girl
>either. But at least he has a career separate from Dave.


Maybe he gets his own Ep later.

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>
>
>Peace,
>
>
>Spirit (Alan)
>http://wutangbook.com


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23. "also respect that they showed the possible down side to the meds..."
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many think its a simple "take the meds and you'll be normal", when in actuality some can leave you in a zombie like state. Not that you shouldnt still take them (you def should!) but its not as easy as some may think.

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12. "He's better at acting than rapping."
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This is a good move for him. He's incredibly comfortable on camera, and he's surrounded by a great supporting cast. Not many people can make this pivot to TV so effortlessly. Credit to him and Jeff Schaffer for making what's been a really strong first season of sitcom so far.

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13. "It's got to be Jeff Schaffer that a character can be so fully formed in ..."
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episode.

The first thing I looked up after seeing the show so well made was who was the experienced showrunner behind the scenes making s show so polished.

It also seems very Seinfeld-ian in that they had the main character basically be himself so he doesn't have to do much acting heavy lifting and surround him with very funny people.


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22. "RE: He's better at acting than rapping."
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My impression of Dicky has always been that his rapping is, in itself, acting. he decided he wanted to do a thing, and he decoded a lot of the aspects of the performance, and he went for it, without actually being it.

Which, by the way, I'm not mad at at all.

On that level, maybe there are similarities to Donald Glover. Glover has been transparent about his feelings being middle class and black in America.

On the other hand, Glover has experienced being black in Hollywood, and Dicky hasn't, so there's already going to be a major difference in tone. Also, Dicky's vibe is "take me less seriously," which Glover can't afford, so the Atlanta comparison is a problem.

  

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14. "I am entertained"
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24. "that wireless headphone party scene was pretty cool."
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25. "All caught up now. Smashed through most of it today"
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It's funny. And has a unique sensibility.

However, I will say that the best two episodes were the ones that didn't focus on Dave at all. The GaTa and the Elz/Emma eps were at the head of the pack by a pretty huge margin.

I'll add that I hate most of the music featured on the show. Only artist that they've shown the I dig is YG. I don't even really recognize most of the celebrities that appear. The final joke in the party episode was hilarious though.

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26. "I have an issue with it: I'm not on Dave's side"
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This is no Larry Sanders show.

Dave has strong opinions on meaningless bullshit, fucks a rubber pussy with legs, and is a clown.

They need me to root for that guy more.

They got me to root for GATA. But Dave - not so much.

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29. "Well, the last episode seemd purposely designed to make you not..."
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...root for him. Or at least underline how awful he is in relationships.

As I said below, I'm really going to roll my eyes if the message of the finale is, "You have to be a selfish prick to be a superstar!"

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31. "Man, I haven't even seen that episode yet"
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But they need to make him as someone you can root for pretty consistently.

That's why everyone wanted an Omar spinoff - and no one wanted a Ziggy spinoff.

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27. "this last episode was borderline unbearable to me."
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the bunny, the diarrhea, the girlfriend in general, etc.

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28. "The episode successfully made the girlfriend a person/character"
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She'd barely been one before this, outside of the sex episode and parts of the previous episode. So, it definitely humanized her and showed her perspective in their relationship.

I agree that everything else was unbearable. Especially the stuff with rabbit and Dave shitting in the woods. I guess it succeeded in Dave look like the worst boyfriend on the planet, which was probably the point. But if they're ultimately going for "You have to an ambitious, hyper-focused, and ultimately insufferable douche in order to be a star in the music business," then that's B.S.

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30. "Anyone else think they were going for a Get Out style ep at first?"
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First scene starting at the apartment summarizing where they were going/why they needed to go. Next seen on the road to see the family for the weekend and they hit a wild animal.

Obv after that it was clear that the ep wasn't gonna have a Get Out style plot but all I could think of in those first 5 mins was "oh this is about to be Get Out"

  

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32. "I am not sure the audience for this show. "
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I don't think you get hip-hop fans who can identify Trippy Red as fans of the Girls like Wedding episode.

I don't think people who would dig relationship comedy would dig seeing someone poop on screen (first time I had seen that in my life).


Takes me back to, who is the target demo for seeing someone take a poop in a comedy?

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33. "Ramy and Russian Doll both better IMO"
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Those two have a comparable blend of surreal/absurd creative comedy with heartfelt moments and high production value/cinematography, both aired season 1 last year and are slated for season 2 this year, so I would consider them to be "right now"

If anyone's got other comparae shows I'd be curious, I don't watch a ton of comedy

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34. "If we include looking back a year Fleabag would be the best to me. "
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37. "Don't sleep on Barry"
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35. "The season finale Jail was pretty good"
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I think the show got a bit soft in the middle but I think it ended strong with the last two episodes.

I think the series lost my wife along the way with the juvenile humor but watched it to the end.

I dig the show a lot, but I can see it ain't for everybody.



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36. "officially fx highest rated comedy series ever."
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38. "Not loving the second season so far. "
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Dave being an ego-maniac dick to everyone really isn't that fun to watch.

A lovable loser trying to break in made it much easier to root for him.



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39. "But he wasn't loveable last season"
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He had flashes of it - but he's following the Larry David/Louis CK character arc. Larry being relatable but not someone you'd want to hang around a lot - and Louis to be the person who you'd actively hate.

I think keeping him loveable but not pitiable would be tougher than what they did: making him an asshole who *at times* you agree with his viewpoint.

For me having him more loveable would make for a show I'd enjoy more - but maybe MC Paul Barman will get a show on FxxxxxX at some point.

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42. "Feels a lot like we're treading water."
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I'm also not a fan of the "Dave as a narcissist" plotline. He just seems a little too nice/loving for that. I'll be happy when they move on.

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40. "the Chuck stuff in ep 3 almost broke my spirit "
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I know they’re trying to push how unlikeable they can make Dave and it’s not uninteresting (esp with GaTa as audience surrogate) but stillIm not sure I can do another 7 eps of this

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41. "The Full Frat Boy Humor was hard to bear"
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The most interesting thing was to see him "code switch" when Gata was around while his boy was the same through out and see Gata react but yeah, no interest.


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43. "agreed on the code switching."
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44. "WTF is Doja Cat thinking?"
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After all the trouble she got in for entertaining racists she decides to play this role entertaining a corny ass white boy?

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45. "She was fiiiiiine in that ep tho"
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47. "You not lying"
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46. "Outside of getting clowned on twitter"
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what harm did Doja Cat suffer as result of those chat room incidents you're referring to?

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48. "Losing credibility with "us" costs you cache with them."
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We know how this shit works. Getting crowned on Nas' album and drug by black Twitter isn't good for ANY "urban" artist.

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49. "Doja Cat has never been overly concerned with her black audience. LOL. "
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51. "You know.... I guess she is more pop than anything else."
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She clearly doesn't care much, and maybe she doesn't have to.

shame...

Oddly, I don't really want someone like her winning. Bad precedent...

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52. "She is tho tbh"
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>Oddly, I don't really want someone like her winning.

Her last album did fine. I have no opinion of her either way, but I don't see Dave's audience giving them any backlash for having her on

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57. "Niggas get drug on Black Twitter everyday B"
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for way less at that

  

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53. "lol it’s so on brand for her to fw a Dave though"
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she only black in skin, she’s culturally white
She got some jams and she is fine as all hell

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58. "I mean.... that's kinda what I was thinking."
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a funnier beat would be here curving Dave to get to Gata.

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50. "Ok the XXL Episode has been one of its best by far. "
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The show does better when it features the other players more.

Clearly Emma is an underutilized character. Really good to get more of her back story (at least explaining her relation to Dave).


This was the first episode this season I found myself legit rooting for him. I wanted him to nail that cypher (without cheating).


What's funny is that Cipha is something I had seen before the episode and its such a weird and awkward cipher so its funny to hear a story behind it.




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54. "What is the point of this season?"
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His career is going nowhere.
He isn't growing mentally or emotionally.
They keep showing us he's self-centered or lightweight narcissistic, but yo, we got it.

What we doing here?

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55. "EVERY TIME I think he's turning a corner"
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That's gonna change the course of the season (and/or his life and/or career), he doubles/triples/quadruples down on his narcissism. I have no idea at this point

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56. "Sorta hoping they pull an Uncut Gems on him"
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59. "So that last episode...."
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So Rick wanted him to kill his ego, he met his ego, and collaborated with him, then went directly to the studio and spit hot fire, with Rick looking on approvingly.

What did I miss???

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62. "Easily my least favorite episode of the show..."
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I get what they were aiming at. But I absolutely lost interest. It felt like a gimmick that just dragged on and on and on.

  

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60. "The Finale."
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So the whole season was toying with the idea, or question of is Dave a good person or not?

and ultimately I think we got the answer with the VMA performance. It was fun, can't say I'm happy with the plot progression, but I'll be there next season.

Sidenote: Gata's fam is kinda fucked up, right?

She was doing some shady shit, he hit that shit on the nose, instead of being real with him (lord knows she has her reasons...) she gaslit him, then called his boss to let him know he was 'ramping' up, as opposed to having a normal human reaction to his circumstances.

IONO, man. I hope he gets on and moves out. I don't think that environment is healthy for him.

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61. "RE: The Finale."
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>She was doing some shady shit, he hit that shit on the nose,
>instead of being real with him (lord knows she has her
>reasons...) she gaslit him,

See, I thought her reasoning was fair. His sister has a steady job and he's trying to make it as a rapper. I can see why his Mom might see the sister as being more stable.

>IONO, man. I hope he gets on and moves out. I don't think that
>environment is healthy for him.

I like Gata and I root for him almost all the time. I hope this season was a turning point and he can get over the hump and get his rap career rolling.

  

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63. "agreed."
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> See, I thought her reasoning was fair. His sister has a
>steady job and he's trying to make it as a rapper. I can see
>why his Mom might see the sister as being more stable.

Yep. Granted his anger didn't stem from that single moment. He was releasing a lot of pent-up anger that had been building up with how they've probably treated him for a while.
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64. "I thought her reasoning was fair, but she didn't acknowledge it."
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Yes he has issues. Why ot treat him like an adult and just talk to him, instead of not telling him about it. Then when he discovered it, pretending like it wasn't happening.

I didn't like the way they handled this.

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65. "I didn't buy it: Spoiler"
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Him sharing the stage with Gata was cool, but I feel like nothing Dave had done previously at any point seemed to indicate that he would ever be willing to do such a selfless thing. And in his mind it would have been a sacrifice, since he didn't think Gata was a good rapper. I feel like the whole show is about his inability to let anyone or anything take priority over his career, so I think that when they show him finally put someone else over himself, it strains credibility that would be such a huge, grand gesture.

Then again, maybe it's just because I really don't like him, as a character or as a real person. But damned if they didn't build a quality show around his not nearly as good of a rapper as he thinks he is ass.

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66. "I agree. I didn't buy it either. "
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I do appreciate how the show finally made clear that he is a terrible whiny person by contrasting him with Gata's perspective but I was very confused by the ending. When I first watched it I thought he was actually dropped by the VMAs but he developed a love for just performing with his friend even in Delaware. That I would have bought and would have been a good ending.

The idea he would share his biggest moment with Gata I did have a hard time buying.

Also, what is the meaning of the conversation between his Manager and the woman at the end? Is his manager going on tour with someone else?


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