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"Lil Dickey's Dave is the best Comedy on TV right now (2020 FX)"


  

          

It shares alot of DNA with Atlanta. It's crazy that FX has two shows about Rappers trying to come up that are so different and don't step on each other toes.

This scene right here is a whole TED Talk on how black people compartmentalize hood trauma.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1238238710254030850

Watch the first three Episodes on Hulu and come back and thank me.



We need to talk about episode 3 in particular.




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just started watching this last night. it's not.
Mar 17th 2020
1
Yeah... I have absolutely no interest in a Lil Dicky tv show. None.
Mar 17th 2020
2
you already fucking off comparing it to Atlanta
Mar 17th 2020
3
I'm enjoying it, very self aware and self deprecating
Mar 17th 2020
4
It makes me chuckle but it's NOT Atlanta
Mar 17th 2020
5
It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity
Mar 18th 2020
6
RE: It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity
Mar 18th 2020
7
      Cot damn yall really don't like little dicky
Mar 19th 2020
8
           Ironically everything people are mad at him about
Mar 19th 2020
9
                Thank You! Everything people are dismissing this from Jump about...
Mar 26th 2020
15
                     we understand what it's saying. it's just not a complex thing to say
Mar 26th 2020
16
                          it wasn't about being in macklemore's shadow
Mar 27th 2020
18
                          What's wrong with Freaky Friday? That shit is Hilarious.
Mar 28th 2020
21
It's fine. Maybe it'll get better. But it's no Atlanta.
Mar 20th 2020
10
Atlanta without the surrealism. Funny as hell admittedly
Mar 21st 2020
11
episode 5 went more for drama than the first four eps
Mar 27th 2020
19
      Easily the best Ep so far. And it was dope because it was about somethin...
Mar 28th 2020
20
           also respect that they showed the possible down side to the meds...
Mar 31st 2020
23
He's better at acting than rapping.
Mar 21st 2020
12
It's got to be Jeff Schaffer that a character can be so fully formed in ...
Mar 23rd 2020
13
RE: He's better at acting than rapping.
Mar 29th 2020
22
I am entertained
Mar 26th 2020
14
(C)
Mar 27th 2020
17

Basaglia
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1. "just started watching this last night. it's not. "
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2. "Yeah... I have absolutely no interest in a Lil Dicky tv show. None."
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3. "you already fucking off comparing it to Atlanta"
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I'm 1000% sure this show isn't great lmao. Also 1000% sure I will never watch it

  

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4. "I'm enjoying it, very self aware and self deprecating"
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Lil Dicky's music is what it is, not my cup of tea but not without moments I've enjoyed (Save Dat Money, the Chris Brown collab/video), but I'm enjoying the show so far.

  

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5. "It makes me chuckle but it's NOT Atlanta"
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Not even close. That comparison is off, this is pure millennial TV. There's no deeper meaning in the shit Dave "Lil Dickey" does or goes through. I'd rather have a Spice Adams show.

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6. "It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity"
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Because Shade 45 and 8 Mile isn't enough.
Because Ghostface style robber Action Bronson having 100 Vice shows isn't enough.
Because Machine Gun Kelly in Big Time Adolescence isn't enough.
Because Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar for best rap album isn't enough.
Because Vanilla Ice's shows aren't enough.
Because Riff Raff's generous dick sucking for Spring Breakers wasn't enough.
Because Post Malone in Spencer For Hire isn't enough.

  

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7. "RE: It's great that a white rapper got an opportunity"
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Yeah I just don’t want to patronize someone who is mocking the genre of music that I love

>Because Shade 45 and 8 Mile isn't enough.
>Because Ghostface style robber Action Bronson having 100 Vice
>shows isn't enough.
>Because Machine Gun Kelly in Big Time Adolescence isn't
>enough.
>Because Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar for best rap album
>isn't enough.
>Because Vanilla Ice's shows aren't enough.
>Because Riff Raff's generous dick sucking for Spring Breakers
>wasn't enough.
>Because Post Malone in Spencer For Hire isn't enough.
>

  

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8. "Cot damn yall really don't like little dicky"
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I wasn't a huge fan of his but did find some of his stuff funny and the dude has flow.

Why do you think he is patronizing hip-hop? Cuz he is white? Because he is white and does funny raps?












>Yeah I just don’t want to patronize someone who is mocking
>the genre of music that I love
>
>>Because Shade 45 and 8 Mile isn't enough.
>>Because Ghostface style robber Action Bronson having 100
>Vice
>>shows isn't enough.
>>Because Machine Gun Kelly in Big Time Adolescence isn't
>>enough.
>>Because Macklemore beating Kendrick Lamar for best rap album
>>isn't enough.
>>Because Vanilla Ice's shows aren't enough.
>>Because Riff Raff's generous dick sucking for Spring
>Breakers
>>wasn't enough.
>>Because Post Malone in Spencer For Hire isn't enough.
>>
>


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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9. "Ironically everything people are mad at him about"
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he addresses in one of the eps.

His name, his "lane," etc

At the end of the day, like I said in my post above, I'm not a big fan of his music, but I am a fan of funny shit, and to me, this show is funny.

"That's a great shirt, where'd you get it?"
...
...
...
"Thrift shop."

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15. "Thank You! Everything people are dismissing this from Jump about..."
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is what the show is about.


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16. "we understand what it's saying. it's just not a complex thing to say"
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Thu Mar-26-20 07:59 PM by rob

  

          

i like the show. i think he is actually incredibly intelligent and skilled. he has punchlines and true timing.

the problem is he's already done this story before in other formats, and he always takes the off ramp to self deprecation instead of embracing self awareness and growth. i'd be shocked if he wasn't constantly having his audience age out on him because they're maturing while his content isn't.

being in macklemore's shadow isn't an interesting problem to have in 2020 - they both have been viral for the better part of a decade now. and macklemore's lead came from, you know, grinding and being part of a city's music community.

it does get incredibly grating to have him vacillate between acknowledging his privilege and gimmicks and then throw a freaky friday collab out there. or him depict a romantic relationship on the show with a character that's the classic trope of totally self absorbed dude with a wonderfully supportive and creative partner - especially when we see how it parallels how he's always dealt with women in his music.

the last episode about gata was by far the best one because it wasn't about lil dicky.

  

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18. "it wasn't about being in macklemore's shadow"
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it was about a certain type of hip hop fan (aka white person) who doesn't like rap unless it's a white rapper. the parents were saying that their kid liked rappers like dicky and macklemore, when musically they aren't very related, it's clear that "like" dicky and macklemore = white

>being in macklemore's shadow isn't an interesting problem to
>have in 2020 - they both have been viral for the better part
>of a decade now. and macklemore's lead came from, you know,
>grinding and being part of a city's music community.
>

  

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21. "What's wrong with Freaky Friday? That shit is Hilarious. "
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I am seeing from this post that Dickey carries a lot of baggage with him which is making people unwilling to give the show a chance. A few people here have stated they won't check out the show on principal.

I don't know Dicky like that. I have heard one album once, Seen the Sway freestyles (so know he can rap), and thought the Chris Brown joint was funny. If his schtick is old for rap heads I doubt that's the case for TV viewers.

And I hope by the end of the season it grows beyond dick jokes. I imagine this show will follow a typical tv season growth Arc and we will see him grow as a character over the season. I think we are seeing something like that already with the great Gata episode.

Anyway, I think folks are over analysing it a bit. Either it's funny or not. I get how it may not be that funny if you are not a Dicky fan.

But not thinking about it from a music/artist standpoint, I think it's pretty F'ing funny.

I hope it keeps up the momentum.
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10. "It's fine. Maybe it'll get better. But it's no Atlanta. "
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Nothing is, to be fair.

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11. "Atlanta without the surrealism. Funny as hell admittedly"
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The end of Episode 3 was the funniest moment in TV so far this year if you ask me

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19. "episode 5 went more for drama than the first four eps"
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Fri Mar-27-20 10:33 PM by spirit

  

          

Admirable that they took the time to develop Gator but would be cooler if they did that by having him have friends and a significant other like the other characters.*

Decent exploration of mental health tho re: Gator

* Now that I think about it the Black DJ doesn’t have a girl either. But at least he has a career separate from Dave.



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20. "Easily the best Ep so far. And it was dope because it was about somethin..."
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heavy. I've never seen that side of mental health on a TV show. I was genuinely happy to see dude not flip out and act out but have grown enough to talk out what he is going through. Legit going through that with people in my own life. It was dope.

>Admirable that they took the time to develop Gator but would
>be cooler if they did that by having him have friends and a
>significant other like the other characters.*

I mean not everyone has a girlfriend but it did speak to the relationship with his mother and his relationship with people in his world prior to running into Dicky. Sounds like you wanted to see the characters in his world developed but the truth is the show is about dickey so I was happy to see the supporting black character in his world developed in a half hour sitcom.




>
>Decent exploration of mental health tho re: Gator
>
>* Now that I think about it the Black DJ doesn’t have a girl
>either. But at least he has a career separate from Dave.


Maybe he gets his own Ep later.

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>
>
>Peace,
>
>
>Spirit (Alan)
>http://wutangbook.com


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23. "also respect that they showed the possible down side to the meds..."
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many think its a simple "take the meds and you'll be normal", when in actuality some can leave you in a zombie like state. Not that you shouldnt still take them (you def should!) but its not as easy as some may think.

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12. "He's better at acting than rapping."
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This is a good move for him. He's incredibly comfortable on camera, and he's surrounded by a great supporting cast. Not many people can make this pivot to TV so effortlessly. Credit to him and Jeff Schaffer for making what's been a really strong first season of sitcom so far.

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13. "It's got to be Jeff Schaffer that a character can be so fully formed in ..."
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episode.

The first thing I looked up after seeing the show so well made was who was the experienced showrunner behind the scenes making s show so polished.

It also seems very Seinfeld-ian in that they had the main character basically be himself so he doesn't have to do much acting heavy lifting and surround him with very funny people.


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22. "RE: He's better at acting than rapping."
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My impression of Dicky has always been that his rapping is, in itself, acting. he decided he wanted to do a thing, and he decoded a lot of the aspects of the performance, and he went for it, without actually being it.

Which, by the way, I'm not mad at at all.

On that level, maybe there are similarities to Donald Glover. Glover has been transparent about his feelings being middle class and black in America.

On the other hand, Glover has experienced being black in Hollywood, and Dicky hasn't, so there's already going to be a major difference in tone. Also, Dicky's vibe is "take me less seriously," which Glover can't afford, so the Atlanta comparison is a problem.

  

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14. "I am entertained"
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