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josephmurf2384
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"The Umbrella Academy (Netflix)"


  

          

i am not too familiar with the source material, but i started watching this today. About 5 episodes in and i am digging it. Reminds me kind of Watchmen. Anyone else checking this out?

  

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An interesting mixed bag
Feb 17th 2019
1
is this an escape goat-type reference?
Feb 28th 2019
11
      old okp reference
Feb 28th 2019
12
           I seem to recall an NBA player saying something about an escape goat
Mar 01st 2019
16
Haven’t watched it yet, but I really enjoyed the comic.
Feb 17th 2019
2
started this, so far i like it
Feb 18th 2019
3
Finished it. It was a fun ride w/ some unnecessary dialog at times.
Feb 18th 2019
4
Another result Gerard Way is the shit
Feb 18th 2019
5
When does Mary J Blige show.
Feb 20th 2019
6
She's almost in every episode n/m
Feb 20th 2019
7
i didn't like the first episode
Feb 21st 2019
8
it was mostly good
Feb 25th 2019
9
Might fuck around and be the best X-Men content we get this year
Feb 26th 2019
10
After watching S2 of Punisher
Feb 28th 2019
13
It's a great pallete cleanser
Feb 28th 2019
14
both in terms of tone and quality
Feb 28th 2019
15
you didn't like S2 of Punisher?
Mar 01st 2019
17
      To not derail this thread i'll hit you back in the S2 Punisher thread
Mar 01st 2019
18
This show is awful - and I watched it all (well to S2 Ep 8 so far)
Oct 20th 2020
19
I definitely hate watched season 2
Oct 20th 2020
20
lol
Oct 22nd 2020
24
I don't know how you made it into season 2
Oct 20th 2020
21
      I'm bored - I'm watching a lot of bad stuff
Oct 20th 2020
22
           I was interested to see how Mary J would do....
Oct 21st 2020
23
                I thought 5 was likable
Oct 22nd 2020
25

navajo joe
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1. "An interesting mixed bag"
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There is a lot I really liked about this. The performances range from good to excellent with rare exception (Adult Ben is trash), the production design is insane, and it's fucking cool and weird and dopey in mostly the right amounts.

Unfortunately I checked in and out because despite a 10 episode order it feels overlong and suffers from some of the weaknesses of the weaker seasons of CW shows. Also, the needle drops range from 'oh, cool' to 'oh god again'.

It's a show that wears its references on its sleeves and that's fine with me as it bends them enough to make them unique or interesting more often than not. There are even some weird ones like two very direct/obvious Cormac McCarthy references.

As the OP says, its very reminiscent of Watchmen but without the weight or self-importance. Instead of being about the nature of superheros and fascism and shit it's about family and being different and failure.

Shoutout to WETA for Pogo it's crazy to see that level of SFX in a 'TV' show.

I'm not waiting with baby's breadth but I do hope this gets a second season

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
-Bree Newsome Bass

  

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11. "is this an escape goat-type reference?"
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navajo joe
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12. "old okp reference "
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is escape goat some shit an okp said? cuz if so, then yes

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
-Bree Newsome Bass

  

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Cold Truth
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16. "I seem to recall an NBA player saying something about an escape goat"
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And we latched onto it as a punchline

For some reason I associate this with Tracy McGrady, but I very we could be wrong about that.

Either way, it's a longstanding OKS reference

  

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2. "Haven’t watched it yet, but I really enjoyed the comic. "
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Plan on checking it out.

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mista k5
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3. "started this, so far i like it"
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the music is cool

entertaining, 1hr long episodes??? they dont drag at all so far but it is quite a bit of a commitment.

  

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4. "Finished it. It was a fun ride w/ some unnecessary dialog at times."
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Cold Truth
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5. "Another result Gerard Way is the shit"
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6. "When does Mary J Blige show."
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That is literally the only reason I will continue with this.

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7. "She's almost in every episode n/m"
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8. "i didn't like the first episode"
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seems too cheesy

  

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mista k5
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9. "it was mostly good"
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i think the last two episodes lost me a bit but overall it was good.

the cabin scene got to me. havent had a "oh snap" moment like that in a while.

  

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10. "Might fuck around and be the best X-Men content we get this year"
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I liked the opposing characters, but I hesitate to call them villains. Not knowing anything about the comic series, I didn't expect them to go Dark Phoenix with Vanya on episode 1, but it was clear when she first displayed her powers.

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navajo joe
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13. "After watching S2 of Punisher "
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I like this even more.

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
-Bree Newsome Bass

  

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14. "It's a great pallete cleanser"
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navajo joe
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15. "both in terms of tone and quality"
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"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
-Bree Newsome Bass

  

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17. "you didn't like S2 of Punisher?"
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Just wondering, I haven't really talked to anyone about it.

Not arguing. I liked it a lot personally. Like Luke Cage S2 seeing Luke transform into...well, what he became, I liked how Bernthal's Punisher developed.

S1 seemed to be about him fighting his blood thirst and PTSD over what he did in the military and what happened to his family. It seemed to end optimistically. But then S2 had him embracing that dark side and finally becoming a villain with his warped morality that just happens to be killing other villains. The story was all over the place but I really appreciated that transition. It's like after he finally pops Jigsaw, all that's left of him is the killing machine.

Anyway, just my thoughts. If Umbrella Academy is better I definitely want to give it a watch.

  

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18. "To not derail this thread i'll hit you back in the S2 Punisher thread"
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As far as Umbrella Academy, I don't know if you should go into it from the 'that nigga said it's better than Punisher' perspective but, I do think that it is superior on most accounts in terms of acting, world-building, pacing, and production.

Is it flawed? OH YEAH. Is it overlong and suffer from periods of aimlessness? I mean it IS still a Netflix show. While there are a couple of great elements in Punisher (Berenthal, John Pilgrim, and that sequence in the bar in episode 1) the fact that the show makes so many terrible missteps in terms of storytelling and execution kills me.

Might be a question of expectations on my end so YMMV w/ Umbrella Academy

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
-Cee-Lo

"You’ve had 4 years of Trump University and are still failing the final exam smh"
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19. "This show is awful - and I watched it all (well to S2 Ep 8 so far)"
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There's a character they know that can travel through time.

He arrives and warns of an impending apocalypse.

Every other characters says "I need to go do my own thing somewhere spatially different and reflect on my bad childhood."

They do this over and over.

Then the world DOES end, they jump back in time - but they get separated.

Then:
There's a character they know that can travel through time.

He arrives and warns of an impending apocalypse.

Every other characters says "I need to go do my own thing somewhere spatially different and reflect on my bad childhood."

They do this over and over.

The ONLY time it made a little sense is the opening of season 2 when they are simply X-Men for about 45 seconds.

I'll finish it today.

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20. "I definitely hate watched season 2"
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Season 1 was bad but season 2 almost made me upset lol. They will not get another season out of me

  

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24. "lol"
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i thought this was upped because season 3 was out. i was thinking, man im done with this show. i think after season 2 i thought it was fine. might watch another one. now that time has passed i dont think i would watch another season.

  

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21. "I don't know how you made it into season 2"
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By the end of season 1, I wanted their version of the world to end.

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22. "I'm bored - I'm watching a lot of bad stuff"
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I have a hard drive filled with classic movies and I'll watch this instead.

I dunno why.

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23. "I was interested to see how Mary J would do...."
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I don't know how you make everyone unlikeable.

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25. "I thought 5 was likable"
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>I don't know how you make everyone unlikable.

Well the young looking 5. His older self seemed stupider than him.he had motivations I could understand: 1)he did something stupid. 2)He wanted to un-do it. 3)He loved his family.

Luther is so strong - and yet get's his ass kicked EVERY-TIME.

Diego can not only curve knives he can push a way bullets? So he's telekinetic, but they just don't lean into it?

Why was Diego so happy to see Ben - didn't he see octopus Ben trimming up those dudes at the end of season 1??

Everyone is boring - NONE of them seem interested in time travel or going back to their timeline at all.

What kind of reverse makeup did they do on Vanya to make Ellen Page look so plain?

Fish-head dude is in all the poster frames and yet does almost nothing.

Herb plays Pogo in a mo-cap suit.

Somewhere in here and Doom Patrol (DC) and The Flash (DC) and Legion (FX) and The Tick (Amazon) - they're close to getting a super hero team that I want to watch.

But in all the previously mentioned shows they lean so , so,so hard into unhappiness that it's not fun to watch a lot of the time.

Maybe I'll watch The Boys next.

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