6. "I don't think it's not all that surprising." In response to Reply # 5 Thu Sep-19-19 11:58 AM by dagu
The group and particularly Oracle's (Barbara Gordon) role in it was pretty groundbreaking from what I understand. I was reading the title when Gail Simone was writing it and it was consistently one of my favorites from month to month. That was before DC blew the whole universe up and undid Oracle's paralysis and kind of changed the entire premise of the group.
I also completely understand the Harley Quinn fatigue. It looks like they're trying to make her the Wolverine of the DCEU.
A lot of people are also complaining about Ewan's Black Mask design too.
And the poster is terrible.
The only DCEU movies I've seen are Man of Steel and Wonder Woman. A more faithful Birds of Prey would have been on my must watch list but this...not. With Suicide Squad 2 and a solo movie coming this absolutely didn't need to be a star vehicle for Harley Quinn/Margot Robbie.
13. "saw it earlier today" In response to Reply # 12
I'll watch it. It looks better than Suicide Squad, which isn't saying much. Margot Robbie and Will Smith were the only redeeming qualities of that movie, and honestly Will was acting for a different movie. Let Robbie go wild in this one and I can see an entertaining ride at the very least.
And I'm going to be that guy and say it: I hope Jared Leto's Joker is in it. I feel like he got done dirty the last time around. People were ready to hate on him just based on his look. When the movie came out, he didn't stand a chance. AND HE WAS ONLY IN THE MOVIE FOR LIKE TWO MINUTES.
I give him credit for going way, way away from Heath Ledger and Nicholson. He's not like them. He's not the Joker from the comics. He did something completely different, and most of it was left on the cutting room floor. I thought he had potential if you didn't just go into it expecting a certain kind of Joker.
I can point at plenty of reasons to hate that movie. Leto wasn't in the movie enough to be one of those reasons.
16. "although I will say" In response to Reply # 14
This isn't really disagreement, but I do remember backlash against Heath Ledger pre-Dark Knight, and while I don't remember this, I saw this WhatCulture Youtube thing claiming that there had been backlash against Nicholson before the Tim Burton Batman.
In fact, although people are taking issue with the movie, lol it seems like Phoenix is the first Joker to not get pre-hated on since Caesar Romero...at least I hadn't read any trolling against him specifically.
I guess in Leto's case, the very small screen time he had didn't change most people's minds.
17. "Right, ultimately good reviews and response will wash away backlash." In response to Reply # 16
But ultimately there wasn't much of him in the movie, and what we saw matched the "oooh, look how Edgy this is!" tone that bogged down much of Suicide Squad at the end of the day, so folks were happy to double down on their pre-viewing skepticism.
Pretty hilarious that the current Joker is getting maybe the worst backlash of all, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the actor itself.