11. "Yep. I’m right here with it. Really good, and not a cash grab" In response to Reply # 10
sequel at all. But nowhere near as good as TS3. I also feel like this story somewhat takes away from the perfect ending that TS3 had...
TS3 ended with great closure (Andy giving the toys including Woody to Bonnie) and hope for the future. He was really reluctant about giving Woody to her, hadn’t intended to but Woody was in the box and he saw how her face lit up when she saw him. So to have TS4 take that and end up with Bonnie not playing with Woody at all and him leaving her works within TS4 itself but definitely takes away from that impactful moment in TS3 with Andy passing Woody to Bonnie.
>TS3 ended with great closure (Andy giving the toys including >Woody to Bonnie) and hope for the future. He was really >reluctant about giving Woody to her, hadn’t intended to but >Woody was in the box and he saw how her face lit up when she >saw him. So to have TS4 take that and end up with Bonnie not >playing with Woody at all and him leaving her works within TS4 >itself but definitely takes away from that impactful moment in >TS3 with Andy passing Woody to Bonnie.
Consider that Woody (according to Andy's mom in 2) was an actual FAMILY HEIRLOOM passed down to Andy from some unknown elder
For Andy to give it to her, and a year or so later for her to have totally lost interest in him (which isn't in and of itself weird, cause kids are indeed fickle like that)
then he gets "lost" (at least to Bonnie he will be). not to mention what we were shown he was a toy kept in pretty much pristine condition for 30+ years
They would have been better off getting put in the attic until Andy could pass them to HIS kids when he got older
this movie kinda throws a bunch of the warm fuzzyies of the previous ending away
12. "Didn't hate it but didn't really like it either (spoilers)" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jun-24-19 11:54 AM by Selah
It added nothing to the overall "arc"
We got already had the joy/value of being a kid (and the beauty of the love a kid has for their toys)
We already had the value of staying together as a family
We already had the heartbreak of being lost/left behind
We already had the "passing of the torch" (as Andy's toys got passed to Bonnie)
this movie pretty much ignored all the older characters except Woody and Bo (throwaway lines and virtual cameos by all Bonnie's older toys, Jessie, and Buzz being reduced to the straight man for Key and Peele)
there were a few weirdly dark elements: - forky the suicidal not-toy (the *only* reason for that drawn out scene/montage of him being rescued from the trash was to get the full Randy Newman song in) - that scene where woody gets his voicebox damn near ripped out by the homicidal ventriloquist henchmen. (also, re: the henchmen...how come they were just evil for evil sake mostly based on their "creepy" look? I though we were on some "don't just by looks" phase?) - and that scene in the club where the top half of the one toy was still sentient despite his bottom still being out in the hall - why no rescue mission so he could be fixed? note: this entire thing was played for laughs
next - the Bo arc was off because, one she isn't really a toy at all, and two they set her up as a free spirit who ultimately still ends up needing the fulfillment of being with woody (contradictory?)
my kids said it was basically just a bunch of scenes stitched together
now it's not HORRIBLE, its just kinda there. which after three of the best kids movies ever was a definite letdown. very much, imho, reminiscent of one of those "straight to video" sequels Disney was doing a minute ago (Aladdin 2, Lion King 2, etc). Definitely better than all that minions, life of pets tier stuff, but I think the standard should be higher
I dunno how y'all define money grab, but to me its a fair-to-middling effort put forth simply because you know you'll make money off it
and this was very much that
it didn't do anything to justify all that time - almost a decade - and the risk of tarnishing what was was pretty much a perfect trilogy. The question going was in was "did we NEED this, what will we get that adds to what we already have?", and after seeing it the answer is "nah, nothing really"