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"Frank Herbert's Dune (Denis Villeneuve, 20??)"


          

Tha Gawd is coming through to make a GOOD adaptation of one of the best sci-fi stories ever.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/12/21/denis-villeneuve-may-direct-dune-after-blade-runner-2049

Denis Villeneuve May Direct DUNE After BLADE RUNNER 2049
This is not a drill, people.

By Scott Wampler Dec. 21, 2016

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We've known for some time that Legendary was keen to get a new adaptation of Frank Herbert's Dune off the ground, and recently the word 'round the campfire was that they were very close to announcing the name of the project's director.

While that has yet to happen officially, a new report over at Variety may have done the job for them: according to them, the job's been offered to Denis Villeneuve (Arrival, the upcoming Blade Runner 2049). Please take a moment to change your pants.

For those keeping score at home, this deal would have Villeneuve moving on to Dune immediately after wrapping up work (and what I suspect will be a lengthy, worldwide press junket blitzkrieg) on October's Blade Runner sequel.

For those of you unfamiliar with the source novel (or David Lynch's highly debatable 1984 adaptation of the same), here's a plot synopsis from Variety:

Set in the distant future, Dune tells the story of Paul Atreides, whose family accepts control of the desert planet Arrakis. As the only producer of a highly valuable resource, control of Arrakis is highly contested among the noble families. After Paul and his family are betrayed, the story explores themes of politics, religion, and man’s relationship to nature as Paul leads a rebellion to restore his family’s control of Arrakis.

No further updates at this time, but we'll keep you informed as the situation develops. Fingers crossed.

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it's like this guy is directly tapping into my own tastes
Dec 21st 2016
1
Yeah, that would be perfect. A movie wouldn't do it justice
Dec 22nd 2016
2
I never caught the sci-fi channel mini-series
Feb 03rd 2017
4
Confirmed!!! My nigga Denis Villeneuve is directing!!!
Feb 01st 2017
3
my favorite sf book of all time (well, trilogy / quadrilogy, whatever).
Feb 08th 2017
5
Eric Roth to write.
Apr 05th 2017
6
Six for six?
Oct 06th 2017
7
The yung prodigy Timothee Chalamet may star!
Jul 16th 2018
8
Look at this fucking cast b.
Jan 29th 2019
9
Leto though?
Jan 29th 2019
10
      RE: Leto though?
Jan 29th 2019
11
           Lol my bad 'Duke Leto Atreides' is a character in the book
Jan 30th 2019
12
                Same unless they age him up in makeup
Jan 30th 2019
13
                Yeah, same here
Jan 30th 2019
15
                     I've been 100% on board with everything I've heard so far
Jan 30th 2019
16
                lol.... had me all backing out of this for a second.
Jan 30th 2019
14
Javier Bardem to play Stilgar
Feb 01st 2019
17
Josh Brolin and Jason Momoa join the cast
Feb 14th 2019
18
Just watched the original Dune for the first time last night.
May 05th 2019
19
Up because I can only watch Arrival but so many times.
Feb 25th 2020
20
cant wait for this trailer to drop.
Feb 27th 2020
21
new promo stills released
Apr 18th 2020
22
Up just in case there is actually a trailer....
Sep 09th 2020
23
trailer:
Sep 09th 2020
24
fucking hell. praise Denis!
Sep 09th 2020
26
Just wow.
Sep 09th 2020
27
KULL WAHAD!
Sep 09th 2020
28
Sweet Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Das what I'm talking about!!!!!
Sep 09th 2020
29
Fuck yeah let's go!
Sep 10th 2020
30
I thought it looked pretty bad
Sep 10th 2020
31
      I mean, there was a book that covered all this
Sep 10th 2020
32
      How do y’all retain all that sh’t
Sep 11th 2020
34
           It is by the Juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed
Sep 14th 2020
35
                thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stain, sustains, becomes a
Jul 30th 2021
43
Shai-Hulud
Sep 11th 2020
33
This might be the one that gets me back in a theater
Sep 09th 2020
25
moved to October 2021
Oct 05th 2020
36
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! It should have been trump!
Oct 05th 2020
37
Trailer and IMAX event
Jul 22nd 2021
38
RE: Trailer and IMAX event
Jul 22nd 2021
39
On the phone!
Jul 22nd 2021
40
      RE: On the phone!
Jul 25th 2021
42
This would've been so bad ass at the CinemaDome
Jul 22nd 2021
41
A near masterpiece
Sep 11th 2021
44
>this is only the first half of the story.
Sep 11th 2021
45
spoilers
Sep 12th 2021
46
      RE: spoilers
Sep 13th 2021
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      I don't even know what to say at this point
Sep 13th 2021
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           I'll mail you a copy of the book
Sep 13th 2021
50
      SHIT!
Sep 13th 2021
49
well, ive never read the books....
Oct 23rd 2021
65
Here's a link for the real IMAXs
Oct 03rd 2021
51
Miss living near Air and Space in VA
Oct 06th 2021
52
      Difference
Oct 07th 2021
53
what was with those long ass facial shots? am i tripping?
Oct 17th 2021
54
I'm watiing for the real stream..but....
Oct 18th 2021
55
theres a good hdrip thats been floating around for a few days.
Oct 20th 2021
56
Pure vibes
Oct 21st 2021
59
I'm at home on a Thursday night watching Dune in my living room.
Oct 21st 2021
57
Finna try to catch it tonight.
Oct 22nd 2021
63
I thought it was really cool. Can’t believe they are making a second o...
Oct 21st 2021
58
i thought it was great. but wondered the same.
Oct 22nd 2021
64
i *had* to order the book after watching the movie
Oct 23rd 2021
66
Denis gets auteur status
Oct 25th 2021
83
hmm
Oct 21st 2021
60
Fuck. That was excellent.
Oct 21st 2021
61
Just finished the 4K stream, I'm mixed on it (My "bad" posts here)
Oct 22nd 2021
62
I'm still mixed on it after a rewatch
Oct 29th 2021
91
      I had to turn on subtitles to understand what Jessica was saying...
Oct 29th 2021
92
      I don't think you'll ever like these movies, but
Oct 29th 2021
93
I’ll be the guy to say it
Oct 24th 2021
67
Pretty dope to me overall
Oct 24th 2021
68
If you don't like WHITE SAVOIR then remember that was THE PLAN
Oct 24th 2021
69
^^^
Oct 24th 2021
71
Wow. That's a serious spoiler. A warning would have been nice.
Oct 24th 2021
73
Sorry, didn't think that was a spoiler at all
Oct 25th 2021
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      I'm not coming at you, but a warning would have been nice
Oct 25th 2021
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           Sorry
Oct 25th 2021
81
                It's all good.
Oct 28th 2021
90
stop, yo
Oct 25th 2021
86
yep. there is a LOT of backstory in Dune. Rev Mother Mohiam alluded it
Oct 31st 2021
94
      I got that without reading the books. I don't think its a spoiler.
Nov 11th 2021
100
knowing the bit i know about the book from friends
Oct 24th 2021
70
Really great. One of the biggest-scale movies I've ever seen.
Oct 24th 2021
72
I'm sold. frankly, this should have been HBO's Game of Thrones follow up...
Oct 24th 2021
74
The Dune universe is so big that it would work as multi TV series
Oct 25th 2021
77
George RR Martin was supposedly very influenced by Dune
Oct 31st 2021
96
HBO Max is doing a prequel series- Dune: Sisterhood
Oct 25th 2021
78
LOTR(Tolkien):Fantasy::Dune(Herbert):Science Fiction
Oct 31st 2021
95
40m opening weekend and best WB pandemic launch
Oct 24th 2021
75
Hate to say it, this was not for me on first watch
Oct 25th 2021
79
*Penelope Cruz in Blow voice* it was spectacular
Oct 25th 2021
82
he fucking did it, man. Villeneuve put Dune on the screen.
Oct 25th 2021
84
also, this was a Dune movie made by a guy who loves Dune
Oct 25th 2021
85
all of this!
Oct 31st 2021
97
I absolutely loved it.
Oct 26th 2021
87
Gorgeous production design, liked that it took its time, but...
Oct 26th 2021
88
classic conundrum of source material adapted long after derivative /
Oct 31st 2021
98
this..was...bananas
Oct 27th 2021
89
Definitely enjoyed it.
Oct 31st 2021
99
The book includes the Terminology of The Imperium glossary
Nov 11th 2021
101
I didn't realize how influential Dune is
Nov 16th 2021
102
just finished the book. im pretty let down tbh (book spoilers)
Nov 20th 2021
103
Really?
Nov 20th 2021
104
      RE: Really?
Nov 20th 2021
105
           I does happen in about 3 in the last 8 pages...
Nov 21st 2021
106
Returning to IMAX on December 3rd.
Nov 25th 2021
107
It's back on HBOMax. It's an F'ing Masterpiece
Mar 12th 2022
108
Agreed. This joint is a classic. Loved it on my first watch but
Mar 18th 2022
109
Denis' movies always get better with time
Mar 19th 2022
110
      I just figured this out. I have a theory why.
Mar 28th 2022
111
           his movies are also very tense, as well
Mar 28th 2022
112
Back in theaters February 9th to the 13th.
Feb 03rd 2024
113
Went again on the 8 story IMAX
Feb 13th 2024
114

will_5198
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1. "it's like this guy is directly tapping into my own tastes"
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one of my favorite directors picking my favorite genres and projects. although I've always felt Dune should be a HBO series.

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2. "Yeah, that would be perfect. A movie wouldn't do it justice"
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>. although I've always felt Dune should be a HBO
>series.

The first attempt certainly didn't

  

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4. "I never caught the sci-fi channel mini-series"
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think that was early 2000s. The David Lynch movie really wasn't too good but I'd maybe revisit it again. Look forward to see how this new one turns out tho.

  

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3. "Confirmed!!! My nigga Denis Villeneuve is directing!!!"
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In December, word emerged that Denis Villeneuve was in early talks to direct “Dune,” and perhaps you were worried that something was going to gum up the works and prevent the filmmaker from tackling his dream sci-fi project. Well, you can put those fears to rest.

Brain Herbert, the son of the late author Frank Herbert, has revealed on Twitter on that Villeneuve is officially signed up to helm “Dune.” Intriguingly, Herbert describes it as a “Dune series film project” which seems to suggest there will be more than one installment, which in this world of franchises, and the sprawling nature of the source material, seems to make sense. But we’ll have to wait to find out more, and see what Villeneuve’s involvement will be beyond the first film.

Presuming this is Villeneuve’s next effort, it looks like he’ll be serving up a trilogy of sci-fi films which also includes “Arrival” and the forthcoming “Blade Runner 2049,” which is just fine by us. There’s still lots of questions to be answered — who is writing the script? who will play Paul Atreides? can Sting and Patrick Stewart still be in it? — but we can’t wait to find out what’s coming in Villeneuve’s “Dune

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5. "my favorite sf book of all time (well, trilogy / quadrilogy, whatever). "
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and i've watched every film adaptation, from the original (w/ sting as feyd rautha) ... to the sci fi (before the y's) version.

"it is by will alone i set my mind in motion" <-- i used that in a rhyme before.

*grabs popcorn*


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6. "Eric Roth to write."
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Denis Villeneuve’s DUNE To Be Written By MUNICH’s Eric Roth

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/04/05/denis-villeneuves-dune-to-be-written-by-munichs-eric-roth

Dude's got a lot of work ahead of him.

By Scott Wampler Apr. 05, 2017

Per the folks over at Variety, Eric Roth (Munich, Forrest Gump) has been hired to write the screenplay for Denis Villeneuve's Dune, based on the novel of the same name from Frank Herbert. If you've ever read Dune (or seen Hollywood's previous attempt to adapt it to film), you know that Roth has quite the job ahead of him.

For those not in the know, Herbert's novel is a complicated sci-fi epic following...

"...Paul Atreides, whose family assumes control of the desert planet Arrakis. As the only producer of a highly valuable resource, jurisdiction over Arrakis is contested among competing noble families. After Paul and his family are betrayed, the story explores themes of politics, religion, and man’s relationship to nature, as Paul leads a rebellion to restore his family’s reign."

Roth's probably best known for his work on Forrest Gump, but in addition to Munich, he's also knocked out scripts for The Insider, The Horse Whisperer, and The Postman. Denis Villeneuve, as you know, is the stone-cold badass who directed such films as last year's Oscar-nominated Arrival, Prisoners, Enemy and Sicario.

Will these two make magic together? Dune's not an easily-adapted property, but we're certainly crossing our fingers for them. Villeneuve's next risky sci-fi epic, Blade Runner 2049, arrives in October. Dune currently has no official release date, which we're choosing to take as a sign that all involved are willing to give Roth and Villeneuve the time they need to make this thing sing.

Stay tuned for more as it becomes available.

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7. "Six for six?"
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I really hope this doesn't fuck up Denis' run b. I need him to keep winning.

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8. "The yung prodigy Timothee Chalamet may star!"
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https://variety.com/2018/film/news/timothee-chalamet-legendary-denis-villeneuve-dune-1202824369/

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9. "Look at this fucking cast b."
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You niggas don't deserve this shit.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/oscar-isaac-dune-reboot-1203109822/

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10. "Leto though?"
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This guy seems 10 yrs too young.

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11. "RE: Leto though?"
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Jared Leto is not in this.

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12. "Lol my bad 'Duke Leto Atreides' is a character in the book"
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He's 50 years old in the story so it's hard for me to picture this casting compared to the others.

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13. "Same unless they age him up in makeup"
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Or they make the starts with a much younger Paul. I'm still iffy on this as much as I loved Blade Runner, Dune is such a difficult book to tackle. I can just hope they make dope ass stillsuits and amazeball sandworms.

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15. "Yeah, same here"
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Blade Runner 2049 is in my top 10 Scifi movies so I really like it alot. And Arrival is probably up there too if I sat and thought about it. So, Villenueve is probably the best director out there to tackle this movie.

While I saw Dune when I was really young and started to read the book when I was in high school, it became clear that there are A LOT of moving parts and intricacies to the plot.

It'll take a lot of whittling and rewrites to get the story down into something halfway workable for a movie. (although I'm sure if this movie does well, there'll be sequels setup.)

The cast looks interesting.

Issac is a really good actor, and I hope this role allows him to really display his range.

I'm not too excited about Chammalet. But that's because I couldn't stand his character in the Oscar movie from last year. But he seems to be a good actor. I'm just not won over to his camp yet. I'm sure he'll be fine tho.

I'm rooting for the project to be a success, especially after Blade Runner 2049 not connecting with people, but I'm keeping my powder dry until the teaser comes out.

  

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16. "I've been 100% on board with everything I've heard so far"
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I'm just working my way through the Dune series now so a lot of this is still fresh in my mind. Denis has been mostly killing it imo and I trust his vision.

I heard a rumor that the girl from Spiderman is playing Channi and that's another great pick. I was worried that they were going to fuck up the look of the Fremen.

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14. "lol.... had me all backing out of this for a second."
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17. "Javier Bardem to play Stilgar"
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This cast is awesome.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
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18. "Josh Brolin and Jason Momoa join the cast"
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Tomorrow's entertainment headline will be that every Hollywood and Broadway actor joins the cast

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19. "Just watched the original Dune for the first time last night."
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So much about the original was ahead of its time, and squarely in step with the future aesthetic as its propagated now. Of course I am looking forward to Villaneuve providing a more diverse cast, but I hope that he retains the repugnant appearance of Baron Harkonnen.

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20. "Up because I can only watch Arrival but so many times."
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21. "cant wait for this trailer to drop."
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22. "new promo stills released"
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my lord and savior Denis has delivered once again

can't wait

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23. "Up just in case there is actually a trailer...."
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24. "trailer:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xhJrPXop4&feature=emb_title

  

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26. "fucking hell. praise Denis!"
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this can't be as good as I hope it is. I'm gonna relax and not watch anything else.

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27. "Just wow."
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28. "KULL WAHAD!"
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29. "Sweet Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Das what I'm talking about!!!!!"
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30. "Fuck yeah let's go!"
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Man, they must have spent a ton on this thing.

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31. "I thought it looked pretty bad"
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Random thoughts:

The Duke's men in formation and the Sardaukar in formation look like anyone of a dozen sci-films. Duke's men seemed like they were in Phantom Menace - the Emperor's seems like they were in The Last Jedi.

Timothy Chamliet doesn't look like Paul to me - I never imagined Paul with an emo haircut.

The shield fighting between Paul and Gurney looked stupid - it was supposed to be about finesse - and they are WILDLY battling.

Duncan Idaho should look like Duncan Man-At-Arms from he Man and The Masters of the universe - not Aquaman.

Paul doesn't sense a crusade - he senses a jihad - did they change that for 9/11??

Zendaya doesn't look like Channi to me - she's waterfat and baby fat. I expect her to be more of a tomboy type.

Javier Bardem doesn't seem like Stilgar in my mind.I always envision a T.E. lawrence/Peter O'toole type.

Helen's voice isn't stern enough. And what's with the fat macrame face covering?

I did not care for the Pink Floyd cover. (Wonder Woman has them beat on a using a cover.)

That part where Paul and Jamis are fighting and Paul hold the knife up to kill Jamis seemed real shaky - I don't buy Timmy having the training or strenght that Paul has at that point.

Oscar Issacs seems 10 years too young to play the Duke to me.

I saw no evidence of who they'll manage the inner dialog that makes the book what the book is.

The recital of the Litany Against Fear seems like the wrong reading of it too.

The sound of the worm was stupid - it was an "Elevator Going Up" keyboard sound, then the sound of someone exhaling.

Wiki says the movie will only cover the first half of the novel??????????????????? So how does it end? he drinks the Water of Life and it says "To be Continued...???"




Oh, I'm going to watch it.








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32. "I mean, there was a book that covered all this"
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where we all got to use our imaginations for these characters, settings and events

a movie can only tell one of those versions

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34. "How do y’all retain all that sh’t"
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I read the book a few years ago, loved it. But I only retain vague general themes

Good thing too, cuz I loved that trailer

  

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35. "It is by the Juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed"
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It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

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43. "thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stain, sustains, becomes a "
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warning.it is by will alone i set my mind in motion.

mentat's creed.

i ain't read the books in 30+ years? i need to reread.

fwiw, i had a rhyme even back in the day that included that...

i take my time write rhymes with devotion/
why? to give it meaning make it deep like the ocean/
don't need no drugs, or magical potion/
it is by will alone i set my mind in motion/
notions enter my head, then they are sped/
through these lips, outta which a rhyme slips...


peace & blessings,

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33. "Shai-Hulud"
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This looks huff, fuck what the nay-sayers are doing. As a hardcore Dune head since the age of 10, I'm all in.

I'm loving the interpretations of everything. Making the Ornithopter move like a dragonfly was a nice touch.


I'm all the way in for this.

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25. "This might be the one that gets me back in a theater"
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36. "moved to October 2021"
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37. "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! It should have been trump!"
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Why Covid?!?! WHY!!!!!!

  

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38. "Trailer and IMAX event"
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https://youtu.be/8g18jFHCLXk

I went to an IMAX event lat night which showcased the first ten minutes of the movie, a pivtol scene from the film, and this trailer. All in full 1.43 IMAX aspect ratio taking up the full 8 story screen.

When Denis said this was STAR WARS for adults, he wasn't kidding.

The sheer scale, scope, and ambition is astounding.

A movie like this rarely come along. See this on the biggest screen you can when it comes out.

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39. "RE: Trailer and IMAX event"
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40. "On the phone!"
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42. "RE: On the phone!"
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LMAO.

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41. "This would've been so bad ass at the CinemaDome "
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I'm buying tickets for the biggest IMAX in LA to go. As a hardcore DUNE nerd, I cannot wait. The trailer was enough for me to want to watch this and not care about any reviews. I just hope WB green lights the second half of this.


Holtzman shields looked so dope. I need a Crys-Knife asap!

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44. "A near masterpiece "
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Believe the hype. Dune is the real deal. IMAX is the only way to see it (I saw it on the 8 story IMAX, the biggest in North America). Every frame of this is beautiful. This is what you go to the movies for. It's a complex story about colonialism, politics and betrayal. But it has a very human story about family and accepting yourself (as well as your destiny) at the center of it. Please go see this ASAP so we can get Part Two as this is only the first half of the story. I can't wait to see this again with friends.

Really the only thing preventing this from being a masterpiece is it's only the first half of the story.

Also, while a lot of people give George Lucas shit for stealing from this, George RR Martin took almost all of Game of Thrones from this.

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45. ">this is only the first half of the story. "
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Where does the story stop in the movie?

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46. "spoilers"
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SERIOUSLY.....



.......


Spoilers!!!



Last Chance

Right after Paul earns the Fremon's respect once he wins the trial by combat.

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47. "RE: spoilers"
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>SERIOUSLY.....
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>.......
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>Spoilers!!!
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>Last Chance
>
>Right after Paul earns the Fremon's respect once he wins the
>trial by combat.

That's a bad place for it to end. If people are really invested in the story they may feel it's an FU give us more money in the next film. And if they're not then they'll slink out and forget the whole thing.

Best case is it takes what, 2 years to get the next one out if it performs well at the box office??

Paul barely changes from the beginning of the book until Jessica calls him a murderer (for killing Jamis.)

If it ends at that point it's introduce the arc - but also is a bummer way to leave the theater, unless they tack on a Jub Jub type song.

I'll be watching on my 65" OLED screen at home and hoping it's good enough for a $165 million+ sequel - I jsut don't have high hopes.


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48. "I don't even know what to say at this point "
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I never read the book, so I was with it.

Reading through your previous posts, maybe you should just stick with the books.

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50. "I'll mail you a copy of the book"
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If you PM a postal address I'll legit send you a paperback copy.

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49. "SHIT! "
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That ain't even halfway to me. Man I pray we get a second film.

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65. "well, ive never read the books...."
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>Believe the hype. Dune is the real deal. IMAX is the only way
>to see it (I saw it on the 8 story IMAX, the biggest in North
>America). Every frame of this is beautiful. This is what you
>go to the movies for. It's a complex story about colonialism,
>politics and betrayal. But it has a very human story about
>family and accepting yourself (as well as your destiny) at the
>center of it. Please go see this ASAP so we can get Part Two
>as this is only the first half of the story. I can't wait to
>see this again with friends.
>
>Really the only thing preventing this from being a masterpiece
>is it's only the first half of the story.
>

...ive never read the books, but yeah, i pretty much agree with all of this.

i know some folks are thinking/saying 'man, its gonna be hard for people who havent read the books to get into this....'

but nah, not so. Yeah, it took a sec to 'get my footing', but i was able to understand what was happening & why, and knew what was goin on and got the overarching themes etc. Sure, there were two or three times we paused the TV (we were watching on HBO MAX), but we were just pausing so that we could read the subtitles. (im a slow reader lol

but yeah, overall i was able to 'get' what was being put down story & theme wise and i was engaged. I was engaged enough to NOT want it to end after 2 & 1/2 hours.

it was an absolutely gorgeous, excellently crafted, and well acted sci-fi feast imo. Thumbs up over here. We're gonna go to see it in IMAX sometime next week, where im betting i'll enjoy it even more.



and yeah, if you can swing it, and if ya feel comfortable doing so wherever you are, try to check it out in a theater (cuz i want this to make at least enough money that the suits will eventually finance the rest of the story lol.)



  

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51. "Here's a link for the real IMAXs"
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https://www.imax.com/news/dune-experience-up-to-40-percent-more-picture-only-in-select-imax-theatres

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52. "Miss living near Air and Space in VA"
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if no real IMAX is available would there be a comparable difference between regular IMAX and IMAX with laser?

  

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53. "Difference"
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The IMAX we grew up with it 70mm 15 perf:

--Type: 15/70
Originally developed by Imax Corporation in 1970, this format uses 70mm film run through the projector horizontally, so that the width of the film is the height of the frame. In all other LF and conventional formats, the film runs vertically, so that the width of the film is the width of the frame. Each frame is 15 perforations wide, hence the term “15/70.” The area of the frame is about 52mm high by 70mm wide (2 inches by 2.75 inches). The 15/70 frame is almost nine times larger than the conventional 35mm frame (below). It is slightly less than twice as large as 8/70. Imax Corp. was long the exclusive maker of 15/70 projectors and cameras, although a few other manufacturers briefly made 15/70 systems.
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^^New films are not being released in this format - but you can see older films in this format if your local theatre didn't uninstall the old system, Hint:They uninstalled it.



--Type:IMAX digital
Imax Corporation introduced its first digital projection system in 2008, using two Christie 2K projectors and proprietary image processing. (Later systems were manufactured by Barco.) With an aspect ratio of 1.9, this system was designed to be installed in existing multiplex auditoriums. IMAX digital projection system
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^^That's Lie-MAX.

--Type: IMAX with Laser
In 2015, Imax began the rollout of its first laser projection system, which it labeled “GT” (confusingly, the same term it had used for its largest 15/70 film-based projectors). It uses two custom-designed 4K laser-illuminated projectors, based in part on patents purchased from Kodak, and built in partnership with Barco.

It has an aspect ratio of 1.43, achieved with a vertical anamorphic stretch of the standard 1.9-ratio 4K image. It is designed to replace 15/70 film projection in the largest IMAX theaters, with screens over 80 feet (24 meters) wide.

In 2018 Imax introduced a 4K laser system for dome theaters, based on a single GT laser projector, as seen at the right. It has the same 1.43 vertical anamorphic stretch as the two-projector IMAX flat-screen laser system. The projector is placed in the center “doghouse” position of the dome, on an elevator, similarly to the film projector it replaced.

Unlike most other digital projectors, these systems are not capable of frame rates higher than 48 fps, and can only achieve 48 fps by dropping down to 2K resolution. Reportedly, Imax has no plans to upgrade these systems to higher performance standards.
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^^That's LIEMAX-lite. But much better than Imax digital. Nto as much detail as "real IMAX" but probably brighter.

And there's formats like 65mm/6 perf, whcih while not IMAX, is a large format stock. Tenet was shot on this. I think it was release on 70mm/5 perf too (upsized.) 5/70 is the old, non IMAX, large format we've all seen.

I'll se it at 1 like 99% of the world will and just ignore the IMAX release.

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54. "what was with those long ass facial shots? am i tripping?"
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just seemed like a lot of unnecessarily long close ups for some reason. the dramatic zendaya stares, homie staring off into his own imagination, mommabear just looking generally confused a lot of the time, etc.

those shits seemed gratuitously drawn out for some purpose im not aware of.

  

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55. "I'm watiing for the real stream..but...."
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I did download the first janky cam rip a few weeks ago and noticed that while scrubbing through it just to send where it ended.

Thursday is the day.

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56. "theres a good hdrip thats been floating around for a few days."
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59. "Pure vibes"
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You could easily cut off 30 mins of stares and drawn out scenes but in the current blockbuster movie trash climate, give me a Dune any day

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57. "I'm at home on a Thursday night watching Dune in my living room."
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I fucking LOVE HBO Max.

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63. "Finna try to catch it tonight."
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>I fucking LOVE HBO Max.

me too!

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58. "I thought it was really cool. Can’t believe they are making a second o..."
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This must be some execs bucket list movie cause there’s no way they are making money on this.

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64. "i thought it was great. but wondered the same. "
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fanboy of the source material. this is my favorite sf series of all time. it's the definitive. also a fan of the original movie.

>This must be some execs bucket list movie cause there’s no
>way they are making money on this.

this. and it was unnerving, because i had so much angst watching, like, ok, this needs to do numbers so they can keep it moving. wasn't a lot of jokey jokey shit which is a big part of most blockbuster sf movies, in between all teh splosions.

there was a LOT of exposition. which was cool. my wife found it helpful. but then again, the books had a shitload of exposition in the wya of historical documents at the opening of chapters.

the ornithopters were so dope. and villanueve did a great job going analog on everything (all the switches and shit - they prolly had vacuum tubes). no overt reference to the butlerian j*had but that was cool to me.




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66. "i *had* to order the book after watching the movie"
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>this. and it was unnerving, because i had so much angst
>watching, like, ok, this needs to do numbers so they can keep
>it moving. wasn't a lot of jokey jokey shit which is a big
>part of most blockbuster sf movies, in between all teh
>splosions.
>

i LOVE that they left the jokes/quips at home on this one. thats one of my big gripes about the new Star Wars joints. way way too much MCU dialogue influence.

>there was a LOT of exposition. which was cool. my wife found
>it helpful. but then again, the books had a shitload of
>exposition in the wya of historical documents at the opening
>of chapters.
>

this is what I'm most interested in. i live for exposition. growing up I used to write pretty much every moment I wasn't playing a sport or at school. even if I was watching TV I'd always have my notebook open either brainstorming ideas, making outlines, reworking existing ideas, or god forbid actually writing out an actual story. that was my least favorite part of the writing process. it's how I know GRRM will never put out another ASOIAF book. its too daunting a task at this point and there are easier bags to get.

i definitely want to read the book and then go back and watch the movie again w/ informed eyes. cant wait to it to arrive on Monday.

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83. "Denis gets auteur status"
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between the million sequels and shitty IPs of anything nostalgic, we need someone to believe in

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60. "hmm"
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didn't really understand the hype. way too long, could not wait to get
out of there. didn't know much about it beforehand.

  

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61. "Fuck. That was excellent."
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62. "Just finished the 4K stream, I'm mixed on it (My "bad" posts here)"
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Better looking and more to the tone than Dune 1984, but...

**I really don't think someone who hasn't read the book will understand it at all.**

Random "bad" thoughts --I'll follow after a re-watch with "GOOD" thoughts:

I didn't need the 80 shots of Chani, and the ending "This is just the beginning" and the smiles felt SUPER forced.

A lot of scenes felt very artificial to me - maybe it's because they were filmed so clear and did not have much atmosphere. They looked like a slow moving perfume commercial in many cases - I'm just missing the emotion in a lot of the scenes.

Lady Jessica seemed a lot weaker in most of the movie than I think of her in the books. But her take down of Stilgar felt like they corrected it.

There was no explanation of why Dr. Yueh's betrayal was so unexpected.

I think the sound/dialog mixing was very bad - without the subtitles I have no I doubt I would NOT have understood a lot of the movie with the subtitles.

Timmy C needed a little more bulk IMHO. He does look like a little boy.

Timmy C's dialog delivery was poor in many cases - sometimes not his fault since it omits much of the thoughts in the book. And some was changed just to explain to people what was going on. But not crazy about a lot of his delivery.


Not crazy about Duncan Idaho talking scenes - but fighting scenes were fine.

The Kurtz/Apocalypse Now shot wasn't my favorite. The baron seems much less capable in this movie than the previous movie.

Not crazy of about half of the score.

Voices of the ancestors are never explained - not sure why they had so many scenes with it.

If you haven't read the books I don't think this movie captures the characters well. Most seem very flat and you really can't tell what their motivations are if the movie is the only thing you've seen.

I'll watch again this weekend , there was a lot of good in it too.

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91. "I'm still mixed on it after a rewatch"
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It's better than the 1984 movie - any of the released cuts of it.

More bad things:
The Baron AND Piter seem like shells of themselves. The 1984 movie got closer to them - as over the top as they were they TALKED.

The Baron's voice is bad. His lack of menace by remaking so still is bad. His lack of TALKING is bad. The "punch to the neck" painful parallels crammed into your throat to Kurtz in Apocalypse Now is FUCKING AWFUL.

The first 20 minutes of the movie were all new stuff that was added - up until the Gom Jabbar scene - they could have pared that down to 10 minutes.

The opening quote was REALLY bad - the book did it SO MUCH better.
Movie ""Dreams Are Messages From The Deep." "
Book: "A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct."

The initial Duncan Idaho scene feels like an improv game - almost every line is repeated in another form several times.

The "Lamentful singing" in the score was so jarring and bad. It reminded me of The Simpson's Itchy and Scratchy musical; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78tXJpncRow#t=37s

Many of the desert shots looks like models to me. Same with any flying vehicle. That's okay I guess.

Paul speaking lines to describe the obvious events happening was eye rollingly bad.

The Lady Jessica was played wrong - IMHO.

The voices that Paul hears - why do they sound like a cartoon ghoul??

And the ending "this is just the beginning" made no sense at all. And the little smile. I know Paul is SPRUNG ON THE CAT but it was just a poor way to end it. (Imagine it happening in the seitch and then ending being the chants.)

And for a film set on a desert planet I didn't see a single person sweat. Do the Right Thing seemed 100 times hotter than Arrakis.

I dunno - it wasn't a BAD movie - it just that but it was pretty clunky.

I DID ask a friend who has not read the books what he thought the movie was about and he pretty much got the conflict between the emperor and the House Atreides and how he used the Harkonnen's to try to mitigate that threat. So I guess a lot of it came through.



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92. "I had to turn on subtitles to understand what Jessica was saying..."
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... in the scene where they SPOILER escape the sandworm, and saw she was saying "That was insane." People generally didn't say great things in this movie.

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93. "I don't think you'll ever like these movies, but"
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>The Baron's voice is bad. His lack of menace by remaking so
>still is bad. His lack of TALKING is bad. The "punch to the
>neck" painful parallels crammed into your throat to Kurtz in
>Apocalypse Now is FUCKING AWFUL.

I get fleshing out the Baron's evilness with more dialogue. but lack of menace? surely you cannot be seriously comparing 84 Dune to 21 Dune in that regard. the Baron has never appeared more sinister.

and to this point, DV has sidestepped the ugliness of "gay = depraved" that Herbert wrote into Dune.

>The first 20 minutes of the movie were all new stuff that was
>added - up until the Gom Jabbar scene - they could have pared
>that down to 10 minutes.

lots of important stuff in that first twenty minutes and we didn't need it to be 10.

>The Lady Jessica was played wrong - IMHO.

>And for a film set on a desert planet I didn't see a single
>person sweat. Do the Right Thing seemed 100 times hotter than
>Arrakis.

that I noticed and agree with. you didn't really get the extreme dread from Arrakis being impossibly hot.

>I dunno - it wasn't a BAD movie - it just that but it was
>pretty clunky.

clunky in what way? it provided too much exposition or not enough? you mention it should be shorter, than lament that plot points are spoken out loud. for a nearly 3 hour movie, I thought the pacing was well done and every scene was deliberate.

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67. "I’ll be the guy to say it"
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Thought the movie was fire.

I digested the first 4 Dune books via audible in the past couple months to prepare

I have an issue with the majority of dark skinned characters
worshipping the white guy. I know Paul’s Messiah is the gist of the books
but it just felt gross watching the overwhelmingly darker skinned Fremon
worship the first white guy to come off the spaceship.

They added diversity within the Atreidies (sp) ranks with Howart and Ewe (sp)
But it felt very much like White Danerys being worshipped by the darker tribes in GOT.

I enjoyed the movie but the way my Blackness is setup Lol

  

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68. "Pretty dope to me overall"
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I've never read the books. Seen the 84 movie a while back and didn't care for it, didn't really understand it and the dated special effects and costumes took me out. This movie I was able to grasp the story much better, some slow pacing but probably added to the world building. The ending is a bit abrupt leading into part 2 which sounds like is a go now thankfully as this would have been horrible if didn't get any continuation. The white savior stuff I can see being problematic, maybe should have cast black actors for Paul and his family, would have still worked to me but meh, only main complaint. Visuals were really well done.

  

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69. "If you don't like WHITE SAVOIR then remember that was THE PLAN"
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The Bene Geserit spent *MILLENIA* setting this up. The freeman - WHATEVER their color - had no chance.

That's why they showed the natives reading the Orange/Catholic Bibles when the Atredies landed.

They planted superstitions, prophecies, and gave them a religion and planted their reverend mothers across galaxy.

Then the Bene Gesserit used this to acquire power, and to gain protection on almost any planet they visited.

Religion is a weapon in the Dune universe - as it is in ours.

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71. "^^^"
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73. "Wow. That's a serious spoiler. A warning would have been nice."
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It's pretty simple to just say something along the lines of, " if you don't like the white savior trope, there's actually some interesting story elements that may change your perception of it in this story. Spoilers ahead if you want to know how".

I just saw the movie on Thursday, and planned on starting the first book soon.

You just dropped a massive spoiler, that would have been compelling to watch unfold through the story itself.

  

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76. "Sorry, didn't think that was a spoiler at all"
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It's covered in great detail even in the first chapters of the book.

It's mentioned briefly in the movie when the reverend mother tells Jessica they've done all they can.

I doubt the next movie will really even go into it except *MAYBE* having Paul scream something a few times in a single scene. It'd be kind of hard to explain in a strictly narrative movie.

The book is not about race it is about politics, trying to interpret it from a racial standpoint will lead to some very weird 'takes' on it.

I guess I forgot you can spoil a 50 year book.

I'll try to keep this in mind if they ever make a 2 part movie of "A Canticle for Leibowitz."

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80. "I'm not coming at you, but a warning would have been nice"
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Yes, you didn't spoil the book. However, I hadn't read the book or watched the movie and I'm sure some on here hadn't either. From what you said, the plot point you mentioned isn't terribly significant. But either way, a warning would have helped.

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81. "Sorry"
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Honestly didn't mean to spoil it.

Those first 6 Dune books are great reads - but Dune itself is pretty hard to get into until around 90 pages in - it's a lot of information and very little action.

If the ever get around to making God Emperor of Dune you'll have to *immediately read the book* - there's no way to avoid spoilers.

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90. "It's all good."
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*daps*

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86. "stop, yo"
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94. "yep. there is a LOT of backstory in Dune. Rev Mother Mohiam alluded it "
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to it when chiding Lady Jessica by saying (i paraphrase), "you thinking in years. our plans work on CENTURIES"

that might be hard to pick up. i was just watching watching. i need to watch again. i was wondering, however, how it would be consumed by someone not familiar w/ the books or even the '84 version. (out of self interest because if that audience don't dig it, won't be no sequel).


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100. "I got that without reading the books. I don't think its a spoiler. "
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70. "knowing the bit i know about the book from friends"
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having the Atreides gang be POC would be an absolute mess and you'd be REALLY pissed. you cant look at this w/ 2021 race politics.

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72. "Really great. One of the biggest-scale movies I've ever seen."
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They could obviously tank the second half, but the first half was really terrific. Even my wife, who usually hates shit like this, really loved it.

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74. "I'm sold. frankly, this should have been HBO's Game of Thrones follow up..."
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Between the film itself, and the tidbits I've come across, this is a seriously dense story on an epic scale.

Serialized television on a network such as HBO seems to be the best way to do this justice.

I hope they do part 2, and pickup the rest of the books as an HBO series.

I'm going to cop the audiobook once i finish up a fee pther things im going through, and I can't wait.

  

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77. "The Dune universe is so big that it would work as multi TV series"
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It could easily be the sci fi GoT. You could run multiple series at a time. One a prequel that deals with the Butler Jihad, a second that explains the rise of the Great Houses, and a third being the OG Dune trilogy.

  

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96. "George RR Martin was supposedly very influenced by Dune "
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(think, the intra-House political intrigue, a past lost to myth impinging upon the 'modern' world, etc).

of course, just like w/ tolkien, for fantasy (and sf) it would be hard for any sf writer not to be influenced by herbert (see, also: arrakis --> tatooine)

>It could easily be the sci fi GoT. You could run multiple
>series at a time. One a prequel that deals with the Butler
>Jihad, a second that explains the rise of the Great Houses,
>and a third being the OG Dune trilogy.

butlerian jihad would be dope. i didn't see whether they referenced that in the movie. but all the analog controls in the ornithopter were a great visual detail.



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78. "HBO Max is doing a prequel series- Dune: Sisterhood"
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10466872/

I really hope it's not based on the Brian Herbert series that came out in 2010-2014?

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95. "LOTR(Tolkien):Fantasy::Dune(Herbert):Science Fiction"
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Dune is my all time favorite sf book series. what tolkien did in terms of setting the standard for world building and creating a dense, lived-in universe as the setting for multiple epic stories (within the fantasy genre), Frank Herbert did with Dune for science fiction.

as you read the books, you'll see, as the narrative arc constantly references thousands of years of political, social and religious history. when i first read it (maybe middle school?) i was like, damn, dude doing a whole lot.


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79. "Hate to say it, this was not for me on first watch"
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A couple of my friends took a bet on when I might fall asleep watching this...turns out the answer was about an hour and 10 minutes in. I'll definitely rewatch it on HBO Max because I'm a huge fanboy for Villanueve but this just could not hold me. I was reminded of seeing "You Were Never Really Here" a couple years ago where I felt all the parts were there to be a movie made just for me and yet the end result had me completely zoned out.


The only familiarity I have with this story is the Lynch movie, which loses me at a similar point. I could really relate to this Letterboxd review:

"not bad if u ever just feel like staring at the color orange and not feeling a single emotion for two and a half hours"


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82. "*Penelope Cruz in Blow voice* it was spectacular"
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Denis was my favorite Director prior to this but now... this guy could run me over on my bike and I would just yell back I LOVED SICARIO!!

anyway, knew nothing of the books and thought it was superb. easier than expected to follow. Other than the wildly inappropriate 80's sounding rock song during a desert montage, I thought the score got it done.

thought the story matched the effects. Denis done did it again.

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84. "he fucking did it, man. Villeneuve put Dune on the screen."
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if you love Dune there are so many beautiful sequences here, and several surprises that really hit. Villeneuve nailed all the classic parts of the book in the way only cinema can present.

even if you've never heard of Dune, I'd imagine you would be impressed by the scope of imagery. even more than the visuals, I'd say the sound is the reason you need to see this in the biggest theater possible -- it is just as amazing aurally.

I'm already planning to see it again.

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85. "also, this was a Dune movie made by a guy who loves Dune"
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we got to see Salusa Secundus! the ornithopters were brilliant. Baron's suspensors. changing Kynes to a woman.

when Kynes planed that thumper and drew her hooks? fucking poetry. as a Dune fan that is all I ever wanted to see, I was in love with the movie forever after that.

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97. "all of this!"
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>we got to see Salusa Secundus! the ornithopters were
>brilliant. Baron's suspensors. changing Kynes to a woman.
>
>when Kynes planed that thumper and drew her hooks? fucking
>poetry. as a Dune fan that is all I ever wanted to see, I was
>in love with the movie forever after that.
>


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87. "I absolutely loved it. "
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Stunning to look at, bold in scope and in worldbuilding. I knew nothing about Dune going in, and there were pieces that I didn't fully understand, but I LOVED that. It felt like I was watching the first part of something HUGE.

The only comparison I can make would be to if I watched Star Wars (A New Hope) back in 1977 without knowing anything else about it. In real life the first SW movie I saw in the theater was Return of the Jedi, and I believe I saw Star Wars first at home from a VHS my dad recorded off of HBO or something. But either way I was too young to know what I was watching, and at the time I was already aware of the universe through toys and such. But if I'd been an adult in 1977, watching Star Wars, there would be tons of stuff I didn't fully understand. It is clear in A New Hope that there is all kinds of backstory that isn't explained. Now, in 2021 we know that there have been entire movies made off of a few lines of dialogue in A New Hope, not to mention all the books, TV shows, etc.

I felt the same way watching Dune. The stuff I didn't know re: backstory and the meaning of certain lines of dialogue added depth to what I was seeing - it made the universe feel HUGE. It's a REALLY bold move to make a film like that, with absolutely no guarantee that additional movies get made, but I really enjoyed it.

Regarding the "white savior" conversation, I didn't really get those vibes because it was clear to me that Paul is flawed as a "savior". Felt a bit like the first Matrix film in that way to me - where Neo is seen by an oppressed group as a prophesied messiah figure, but that was actually part of the plan by the machines. Again I know nothing of Dune besides this move, but it seems to me like Paul as a "savior" s really just part of the plan of his mother's group of witches, and they are clearly working with the emperor.

My one issue is with the ending. It felt anti-climatic given the huge stakes throughout the rest of the film. And I get the point of what they were doing - the stakes in that final fight weren't about Paul vs. Jamis, but Paul vs. Paul and his evolution in killing a man and becoming accepted by the Fremen. I'm not saying they needed to end this one by "blowing up the Death Star", but they also didn't do enough in the film to show how huge it was in Paul killing Jamis and joining the Fremen. There were subtle hints - on my second watch I noticed that in Paul's dreams of the future, Jamis was his teacher, and you could definitely see that as what happened in that last fight. But what could have given it more weight would be if earlier in the film we saw Paul faced with the decision of whether to kill a man or not, and maybe having Duncan or Gurney or his father save him from that decision by killing the enemy for him. That would made the growth at the end more impactful IMO. They also could have added some type of subtle cliffhanger at the end - maybe showing the emperor hearing about Paul and his mother still being alive or something.

But again, I loved this film - watched it twice. I REALLY hope it does enough numbers for them to continue with the second half of the book, and I definitely plan on reading it.

  

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88. "Gorgeous production design, liked that it took its time, but..."
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Just because the director felt the need to say this was "Star Wars, but for adults," I gotta say this isn't really that far from the template for your standard YA fantasy epic. The script did a good job of making the story easy to follow and keep track of the different factions, but fell short on emotion. The dialogue does little more than just dispense information and move the story along.

I liked it and will almost certainly watch it again, but didn't seem as thoughtful as Arrival or Bladerunner 2049. But you can count quality fantasy epic films on two hands, so this is welcome.

(I read and really liked the book, but it's been too long to remember enough to compare the two)

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98. "classic conundrum of source material adapted long after derivative / "
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influenced work becomes super popular.

i remember a long time ago, i was at a concert with a bunch of groups from the 70s and 80's playing, and my bro-in-law and his friend were there. some jam was playing and his friend says, "they bit this from biggie", and the look on my face...

most sf genre writers would have been influenced by tolkien, herbert, asimov, etc.

>Just because the director felt the need to say this was "Star
>Wars, but for adults," I gotta say this isn't really that far
>from the template for your standard YA fantasy epic. The
>script did a good job of making the story easy to follow and
>keep track of the different factions, but fell short on
>emotion. The dialogue does little more than just dispense
>information and move the story along.
>
>I liked it and will almost certainly watch it again, but
>didn't seem as thoughtful as Arrival or Bladerunner 2049. But
>you can count quality fantasy epic films on two hands, so this
>is welcome.
>
>(I read and really liked the book, but it's been too long to
>remember enough to compare the two)

agreed. i need to reread.


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89. "this..was...bananas"
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and that score

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99. "Definitely enjoyed it."
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I’ll probably watch again because I watched it in my iPad. I definitely would’ve fallen asleep in the theater though.

It kinda assumes you know the vocabulary words but they say them enough times that you pick it up by the end.

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101. "The book includes the Terminology of The Imperium glossary"
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Wikipedia has it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Dune_(franchise)_terminology

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102. "I didn't realize how influential Dune is"
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Like I see Star Wars movies, Foundation book series, Game of Thrones and like someone else mention, every YA movie you see these days.


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103. "just finished the book. im pretty let down tbh (book spoilers)"
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I saw the movie before reading the book, from my post above i ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.

The book, after the movie ends, what really happens? Paul lives among the Fremen for a few years. you get a lot of Vladimir politics.

but i mean... all this build up and the Emperor arrives on Arrakis, and it ends like that?!?! wtf. zero closure on his sister, the jihad, any of it. he has a knife fight with Feyd and then Jennifer whispers to Chani the Emperors daughter wont touch Paul?

i suppose it was cool to get a closer look of the Fremen and imagining their sietches but i just dont see how Denis can make a Part 2 of anything happening other than Vladimir talking about who is the best CONSPIRICIST!!, the progom of Saudakar on Arrakis... and Jennifer drinking the water of life??

I finished it last night after speed reading 100 pages for closure and im just not really feeling that ending scene. I know there are more books so maybe I just need to keep progressing... but Part III, the Prophet, needed some more finality IMO.

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104. "Really?"
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>The book, after the movie ends, what really happens? Paul
>lives among the Fremen for a few years. you get a lot of
>Vladimir politics.

The book *is about politics* and is not a space opera. Politics ALSO equals religion.

>but i mean... all this build up and the Emperor arrives on
>Arrakis, and it ends like that?!?! wtf. zero closure on his
>sister, the jihad, any of it. he has a knife fight with Feyd
>and then Jennifer whispers to Chani the Emperors daughter wont
>touch Paul?

Did you miss the part where Paul becomes Emperor?? The ruler of the houses and the most powerful man in the galaxy?

>I finished it last night after speed reading 100 pages for
>closure and im just not really feeling that ending scene. I
>know there are more books so maybe I just need to keep
>progressing... but Part III, the Prophet, needed some more
>finality IMO.

The first book takes a teenager whose family is destroyed and turns him into an emperor. He becomes prescient. He is recognized as a messiah and unleashes a Jihad in his name across the galaxy that even he can not stop.

Plus he can see the future with a fair amount of certainty and even access the PRESENT events through others memories.

And now that all the lore and characters have been introduce the Dune Messiah and Children of Dune are set-up. Messiah DEFINETLY is more of a space opera - lots more action but still a lot of politics and religion.

You might actually like it better now that you know the universe.

No one has to say you need to like the book - but man A LOT more happens in the book than happens in part 1 of this movie.

But not everyone likes the book - it's okay not to love or like it.

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105. "RE: Really?"
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>The book *is about politics* and is not a space opera.
>Politics ALSO equals religion.
>

Yeah I understand it's about politics - my point was is half of Part 2 going to be about Vladimir bragging that he's an elite conspiracist? you cool with that?

>
>Did you miss the part where Paul becomes Emperor?? The ruler
>of the houses and the most powerful man in the galaxy?
>

where did this happen? he doesnt "become Emperor" - he tells the Emperor that he wants to wed his daughter and his daughter replies "im trained for this" - he absolutely does not, in the final scene, become the most powerful man in the universe. its quite clear the Emperor still holds power and this transition you speak of isnt relayed.

>The first book takes a teenager whose family is destroyed and
>turns him into an emperor. He becomes prescient. He is
>recognized as a messiah and unleashes a Jihad in his name
>across the galaxy that even he can not stop.
>
he's prescient for over half the book, i know. you must be overlapping books man. he absolutely does not unleash a jihad anywhere at the end of Part III. the book ends with a large amount of unfinished business if you want to admit it or not

>Plus he can see the future with a fair amount of certainty and
>even access the PRESENT events through others memories.
>
>And now that all the lore and characters have been introduce
>the Dune Messiah and Children of Dune are set-up. Messiah
>DEFINETLY is more of a space opera - lots more action but
>still a lot of politics and religion.
>
>You might actually like it better now that you know the
>universe.
>
>No one has to say you need to like the book - but man A LOT
>more happens in the book than happens in part 1 of this
>movie.
>
>But not everyone likes the book - it's okay not to love or
>like it.
>

i didnt want to convey im absolutely hating on the book - i finished it in a week. I loved it. simply put, i felt the ending was SUPER rushed, with 600 pages of build up of Paul vs Emperor and it ends in a knife fight with Feyd and zero closure on any of the characters brought into the second half of the book. you are looking at my post thru eyes of finishing all of the books - you gotta look at my post thru the lens of finishing book 1 and wondering what happens to MANY of the characters.

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106. "I does happen in about 3 in the last 8 pages..."
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It is very rushed. Good news: Dune Messiah and Children of Dune COMBINED total about the same number of pages as Dune and there *is* more action.

SPOILERS for those who don't know what ahppens at the end of Dune the book.





House Atriedes is still around - as Paul is recognized as heir.

They know Paul controls Arakkis and the spice and he can destroy it.

The Emperor is exiled to Salusa Secundus. This is him stepping down off the throne and Paul taking it.

Paul is to wed Irulan - but Usul promises Chani that it is in name only.

Paul gets a dowry of ALL of the Emperor's CHOAM holdings.

The Reverend Mother knows the Jihad is starting with Fremen recognizing M'audib as their god.

Gurney gets Caladan and a CHOAM membership (and I assume Landsraad membership too.)

Paul's prescient vision shows him the (possible) future - and he thinks he can guide it.


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107. "Returning to IMAX on December 3rd."
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Mos def gonna go one last time.

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108. "It's back on HBOMax. It's an F'ing Masterpiece "
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Might not have gotten that the first go round, but watching it again I got to see how much attention was given to detail.


Watching it again, all my monor gripes feel like nitpicking. This is a top 5 of all time sci Fi movies.


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109. "Agreed. This joint is a classic. Loved it on my first watch but"
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at first I wasn't happy with the ending...completely feels like nitpicking now after rewatching. On first watch the ending felt anti-climatic but now that I'm aware of all the foreshadowing, and the setup with the dreams, along with the awareness of the sequel coming, this movie is a straight up masterpiece.

  

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110. "Denis' movies always get better with time"
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literally all of them. probably seen Sicario 20 times now.

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111. "I just figured this out. I have a theory why. "
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I've literally gone back and watched Prisoners, Sicario, Dune, Arrival and just restarted Blade Runner 2049 (back on Netflix) and all of them I noticed so much more the second time around and it felt like I was watching a new movie.

My theory is that Villeneuve is one of the most visually focused filmmakers today. So many long shots of landscape and people that most filmmakers wouldn't dare to take and doesn't think audiences have the attention span for it.

And maybe we don't because on first watch I think I find myself so focus on plot and what happens next that I am not taking in the visuals and just waiting for the next scene.

On rewatch, when I know the plot, I can just get more absorbed into look and feel and get more absorbed in the world building.




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112. "his movies are also very tense, as well"
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constant tenseness without being too much

I'm definitely plot-focused the first-time on every Villeneuve film as well because of that brooding feeling he imparts (he doesn't really break into "relaxing" scenes)

but yeah, visually he has this thematic attention to detail that stands out more and more upon re-watch (he works with great cinematographers, most notably Deakins, but his style is consistent)

there are shots in every one of his films that you just soak in, almost a throwback to an older era of cinema

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113. "Back in theaters February 9th to the 13th."
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Gonna peep it one last time on the 8 story IMAX

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114. "Went again on the 8 story IMAX "
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This is always a majestic experience in IMAX.

I didn't stick around for the sneak peak of PART TWO.


But it was cool seeing the TENET re-release trailer on screen

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