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"Han Solo...spinoff movie (2018)"


  

          

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twitter was speculating that Aaron Paul was gonna play young Hans...
Jul 08th 2015
1
RE: twitter was speculating that Aaron Paul was gonna play young Hans...
Jul 08th 2015
2
Aaron Paul was GREAT as Jesse Pinkman
Jul 08th 2015
4
      Yeah Chris Pratt is a star and would do the comedic timing better
Jul 09th 2015
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      completely disagree. Paul has that affable cynicism that's critical...
Jul 09th 2015
14
           its easier to act serious than t is to be funny
Jul 09th 2015
20
fuck this shit
Jul 08th 2015
3
They need that dude who was young Ford in Age of Adaline.
Jul 08th 2015
5
I don't see whats wrong with the idea
Jul 09th 2015
7
I also hate the Boba Fett idea.
Jul 09th 2015
22
Photo for those who didn't see young Ford in Age of Adaline:
Jul 09th 2015
23
Michael B. Jordan for young Lando.
Jul 09th 2015
8
Nah. Donald Glover.
Jul 09th 2015
21
      hell to the fuck no lol
Jul 09th 2015
24
disney milking that cow.
Jul 09th 2015
9
the best way they know how
Jul 09th 2015
13
      Epcot Center Cher-Kapow!
Jul 11th 2015
26
           LMAO stupid
Feb 01st 2017
51
This sounds terrible...leave his origin as is
Jul 09th 2015
10
Eh, as long as it's not a "comprehensive" origin story, I'm cool
Jul 09th 2015
15
Isn't the word that Lord and Miller are going to be apart of this
Jul 09th 2015
11
Chris Pratt is the same age as Harrison Ford was in Star Wars
Jul 09th 2015
12
it only has to be before SW, if it's 5 years or less
Jul 09th 2015
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Well doing it as a prequel that takes place 5 years before Star Wars is ...
Jul 09th 2015
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      pretty much the last line
Jul 09th 2015
18
nobody will care about that
Jul 09th 2015
19
Pratt is just speculation
Jul 09th 2015
25
‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Film: Alden Ehrenreich Lands The Lead In Spinof...
May 06th 2016
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Donald Glover is Lando
Oct 21st 2016
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dope.
Oct 21st 2016
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Oct 21st 2016
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+
Oct 21st 2016
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pass.
Oct 22nd 2016
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still, see ya in line bruh
Oct 22nd 2016
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"WRONG" - Drumpf
Oct 28th 2016
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Fine - but he's 4 inches shorter
Oct 22nd 2016
34
It'll work out... he's the same height as the new Hans
Oct 22nd 2016
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regardless of height, he's just too androgynous and unsuave...
Oct 27th 2016
42
I have a bad feeling about this.
Oct 23rd 2016
36
he definitely has the perfect look for Lando
Oct 23rd 2016
37
he has the perfect look for Geordi La Forge
Oct 23rd 2016
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      him too
Oct 23rd 2016
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhOG3XwX9Yw
Oct 24th 2016
41
Hopefully he dont let Jabba call him a...
Oct 23rd 2016
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"Hey Jabba, tell Mace that story you told me earlier..."
Oct 28th 2016
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      lol
Oct 28th 2016
44
Works for me. But I'd be first in line if they'd cast Paperboi or Darius
Oct 28th 2016
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Woody Harrelson Confirms Role in ‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff
Jan 23rd 2017
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Bradford Young is doing the Cinematography. EXCITED.
Jan 24th 2017
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Definitely excited that Young is the DP
Jan 26th 2017
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      He directed Common's "Black America Again" short
Jan 27th 2017
50
Michael K Williams officially joins!
Mar 06th 2017
52
Omar in space?!
Mar 07th 2017
53
Lord and Miller have left
Jun 20th 2017
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Welp.
Jun 20th 2017
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Rumor: they might have been fired.
Jun 20th 2017
56
Some more to add to the Variety article above
Jun 20th 2017
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      Well, at least it's starting to make sense.
Jun 20th 2017
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      Yeah but these directors need to understand
Jun 21st 2017
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           Exactly. And to your point, it really depends on what kind of
Jun 21st 2017
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           Do you know that for sure?
Jun 21st 2017
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                Like I mentioned above, I think they are struggling with striking
Jun 21st 2017
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                At what point though do you stop chasing the "Star Wars tone"
Jun 21st 2017
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                     I don't think this one has to have a "Star Wars tone", but it can't
Jun 21st 2017
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                          The contradict thing is hard to say
Jun 21st 2017
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                          These are all side stories tho from the main film. That's hella leeway
Jun 21st 2017
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                               NO NO NO.
Jun 21st 2017
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                                    How do you know that?
Jun 21st 2017
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                                         The movie will explain how he got the Millennium Falcon
Jun 21st 2017
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                                              Now your making shit up
Jun 22nd 2017
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                                              But the things ive said
Jun 22nd 2017
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                                              They explained how he got the Millennium Falcon in Empire Strikes Back
Jun 28th 2017
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                Well nobody knows for sure
Jun 21st 2017
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      Even more info here
Jun 21st 2017
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Sounds like they couldn't get along with Kennedy and Kasdan.
Jun 20th 2017
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      Bottom line..if Kathleen Kennedy didn't think it was right
Jun 21st 2017
      It depends tho. Are directors that disposable and untrustworthy?
Jun 21st 2017
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           ^^^^^^^^^^
Jun 21st 2017
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                Easy to say when its not your dollars.
Jun 21st 2017
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                     Nigga Disney is multi-billion dollar corporation
Jun 21st 2017
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                          Again...easy to say when its not YOUR money.
Jun 21st 2017
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                               Lucasfim doesn't necessarily play it safe tho
Jun 21st 2017
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      Delete
Jun 21st 2017
60
      what a sh!t show
Jun 21st 2017
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           LOL why is that a conclusion?
Jun 21st 2017
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           are you saying this isn't a sh!t show?
Jun 21st 2017
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                They did....do you even know what Kathleen Kennedy has done? lol
Jun 21st 2017
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                     seriously. th'fuck is a lord and miller?
Jun 21st 2017
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                     **blinks**....um, not sure why you seem so emotional over this
Jun 22nd 2017
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                          Oh the old OKP response when they figure out they were wrong reply
Jun 23rd 2017
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           Same thing happened on Rogue One and it turned out great
Jun 21st 2017
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                True...Rogue One was dope. Miles better
Jun 21st 2017
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                     Miles Teller even
Jun 21st 2017
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Ron Howard to finish it
Jun 22nd 2017
88
I didn't think it was possible to give less fucks about this movie
Jun 22nd 2017
91
Swing and a miss
Jun 22nd 2017
92
They aren't RE-DOING the movie lol
Jun 22nd 2017
93
*shrug* whatever they have is what they have
Jun 22nd 2017
94
Odds this gets pushed to Xmas?
Jun 22nd 2017
95
lol ron fucking howard
Jun 22nd 2017
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      His relationship with Kasdan and Kennedy
Jun 23rd 2017
99
Alden Ehrenreich Shot First (swipe)
Jun 23rd 2017
100
BTW I like how Alden knows how serious him getting the
Jun 24th 2017
101
Nigga do you have money invested in this shit?
Jun 24th 2017
102
      If that EW story is true then I'm definitely on Disney's side here.
Jun 24th 2017
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      If you know anything about Star Wars
Jun 24th 2017
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           Cause nigga you posting like the Drake clapping gif
Jun 25th 2017
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everyone is still gonna go see it and it'll probably be good
Jun 25th 2017
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      basically. SW fans are so fucking dramatic lmao.
Jun 28th 2017
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Set photos + better look at Han and Chewie
Jul 09th 2017
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First look at Lando
Jul 19th 2017
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Can't see shit
Jul 20th 2017
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      Lol its a taste not a the whole meal
Jul 20th 2017
112
Donald Glover on the switch.
Aug 09th 2017
113
And the title is...
Oct 17th 2017
114
Will there be black Solo cups with a red stripe?
Oct 17th 2017
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I REALLY hope this isn't the final title
Oct 18th 2017
116
      Oh god lol it's perfect
Oct 18th 2017
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           Admittedly, I'm only a casual SW fan
Oct 20th 2017
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First image?
Dec 27th 2017
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"Shit is trash, b" -Anonymous Source
Dec 27th 2017
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Drunk Uncle was on Collider who has a friend who saw a cut
Dec 27th 2017
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I'm not believing it, I find the timing funny after all TLJ hooplah
Dec 27th 2017
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yeah those rumors are always pretty damn accurate
Dec 27th 2017
122
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not
Dec 27th 2017
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this is ridiculous
Dec 28th 2017
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      agree
Dec 28th 2017
126
more reshoots? the fuck?
Jan 10th 2018
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this isn't surprising
Jan 10th 2018
128
The original "reshoots" were essentially Ron Howard doing a new
Jan 10th 2018
129
yep
Jan 10th 2018
130
      Its january why would it feel like a big event?
Jan 10th 2018
131
           this isn't actually a debate, yo
Jan 11th 2018
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                Agreed.
Jan 11th 2018
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                I don't see how this is any less of an event than Rogue One
Jan 15th 2018
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                     no dude, it's not a debate
Jan 15th 2018
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                          Thats fine...but "to you.." is a different statement than you originally...
Jan 15th 2018
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                               you know what the word "feel" means, right?
Jan 16th 2018
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                               forget the last comment
Jan 16th 2018
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                Cosign on all of this...
Jan 16th 2018
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                     RE: Cosign on all of this...
Jan 16th 2018
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                          Yep. They could literally tell us that Solo is a 2 hour compilation of
Jan 16th 2018
145
                               Lolol basically
Jan 16th 2018
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its crazy that we are 4 months out and still no promo
Jan 11th 2018
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      There is a poster
Jan 15th 2018
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      the poster was up on opening day of TLJ
Jan 15th 2018
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           I want the tshirt with that logo like NOW
Jan 15th 2018
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Plot description released
Jan 16th 2018
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if this is as dull as it sounds, the one good outcome might be
Jan 16th 2018
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They're saying that Ewan McGregor won't be Obi
Jan 16th 2018
149
Yeah. I'd prefer they go down a route similar to Rogue One for these
Jan 16th 2018
150
I think those are things we see i doubt the movie is all about it tho
Jan 16th 2018
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That's straight from the horse's mouth.
Jan 16th 2018
156
That's a pretty standard, generic plot summary
Jan 16th 2018
155
I don't understand any excitement for this at all
Jan 16th 2018
152
Doesn't mean they should do them right away
Jan 16th 2018
153
Should/could, same difference to me.
Jan 16th 2018
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You, and everyone else who’s whining, is gonna go see it
Jan 16th 2018
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      1. I'm not doing anything remotely close to "whining", and 2. No, I'm no...
Jan 16th 2018
157
So the film's run time is reportedly 2 hours and 23 minutes
Jan 23rd 2018
159
I guess. Every one of these Disney SW could be shorter though.
Jan 24th 2018
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      All SW movies run long. Shortest one was the first and that was still...
Jan 24th 2018
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Just confirmed. Trailer drops Monday on GMA.
Feb 01st 2018
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You think they still drop a teaser on Sunday?
Feb 01st 2018
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Maybe. But I doubt it.
Feb 01st 2018
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smart, I guess?
Feb 01st 2018
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that short super bowl clip looked fantastic.
Feb 04th 2018
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The Falcon lookin brand new!
Feb 04th 2018
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Super Bowl spot
Feb 04th 2018
167
Haha dude it looked so sick
Feb 04th 2018
169
I wait for the full trailer tomorrow morning.
Feb 04th 2018
170
nice teaser.
Feb 04th 2018
171
Teaser trailer
Feb 05th 2018
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Yeah
Feb 05th 2018
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Alden doesn't even feel like a young Harrison in
Feb 05th 2018
174
aesthetically, it looks like Star Wars. But that kid may suck.
Feb 05th 2018
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he doesn't suck, but he mighr suck as Solo.
Feb 05th 2018
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I was hype after the Superbowl teaser. But now...eh...
Feb 05th 2018
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Feeling the same way as you except
Feb 05th 2018
177
Y'all were already committed to not be excited lol
Feb 05th 2018
179
o I'm excited. He seems wooden, but stylistically it looks beautiful
Feb 05th 2018
181
Or maybe niggas are just not feeling it.
Feb 05th 2018
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Haha
Feb 05th 2018
187
Naw, if I was excited I'd say it.
Feb 05th 2018
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      Hmm that line was the most confident one
Feb 05th 2018
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      Also
Feb 05th 2018
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day 1 idc idc idc.
Feb 05th 2018
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posts #3 & #32
Feb 06th 2018
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Teaser posters
Feb 05th 2018
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New trailer
Apr 08th 2018
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looks pretty...good
Apr 08th 2018
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Only reason I would go see it in the theater is because its pretty.
Apr 09th 2018
191
this is the first time I'm not hyped about a Star Wars film
Apr 09th 2018
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I will see it since its Star Wars
Apr 09th 2018
193
I'm sure it's dependent on how this does
Apr 09th 2018
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      ^^^^All of this.
Apr 09th 2018
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           I think a lot of the talk of "We dont need this story'
Apr 09th 2018
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           I think a lot of the talk of "We dont need this story'
Apr 09th 2018
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                Nigga I don't get why you can't understand why
Apr 09th 2018
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                Read his post. It’s good and he’s right. And he does want to see it ...
Apr 09th 2018
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                Lol not sure why you getting angry at me
Apr 09th 2018
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                Nigga... LOLOLOL
Apr 10th 2018
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                I'm saying though
Apr 10th 2018
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                *daps*
Apr 10th 2018
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                RE: Nigga I don't get why you can't understand why
Apr 10th 2018
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                     *daps*
Apr 10th 2018
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                          RE: *daps*
Apr 11th 2018
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                               *double daps*
Apr 11th 2018
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                Nostalgia trips are bad because its why Last Jedi was hated imho
Apr 12th 2018
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                     *hard daps*
Apr 12th 2018
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I'm on board. The first teaser trailer was meh because I couldn't buy
Apr 09th 2018
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Alden's line readings are the only thing that has me concerned
Apr 09th 2018
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*shrugs* OK.
Apr 09th 2018
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I'm actually interested in seeing it now.
Apr 09th 2018
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I'm good...dont need this...didnt need Rogue One either, but..ehh..
Apr 10th 2018
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looks good to me. i'm there day 1. #hardshrug
Apr 12th 2018
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I hope it makes a shit ton of money and makes people mad
Apr 10th 2018
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Right there with you
Apr 10th 2018
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^^^
Apr 10th 2018
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I would like more adventure movies than character-driven ones
Apr 10th 2018
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And I agree that those would both be excellent ideas for films
Apr 10th 2018
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FINANCIAL THRILLER COVERING COST OVERRUNS ON THE DEATH STAR
Apr 11th 2018
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      We saw Yoda like two days of his life, let's get the rest of them huh?
Apr 12th 2018
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look, man, nobody here is going to be mad if it does well
Apr 12th 2018
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      BUT WHY ARE YOU NOT EXCITED TO SEE IT?!
Apr 12th 2018
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           For someone who's not hyped for this movie...
Apr 12th 2018
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                So PTP is only for movies we're excited about? Since when?
Apr 12th 2018
225
                     Word. Niggas are funny here.
Apr 12th 2018
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                     You've said "I'm not hyped" about a dozen times in here.
Apr 12th 2018
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                          if they bother you so much, feel free to not read my posts
Apr 13th 2018
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                               Oh the irony
Apr 13th 2018
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                                    Lol
Apr 14th 2018
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"Crew" TV Spot (:45)
Apr 15th 2018
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“Risk” TV Spot
Apr 17th 2018
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Lando is so on point.
Apr 18th 2018
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Tracking to open at $170M on that long weekend
May 04th 2018
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I don't know how they could forecast that so early
May 04th 2018
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They forecast based on the presale tickets and screen numbers.
May 04th 2018
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Have people been saying they think it will tank?
May 04th 2018
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All those articles saying Disney thinks it's going to be
May 04th 2018
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Literally no one said it would tank.
May 04th 2018
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PROMO
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1. "twitter was speculating that Aaron Paul was gonna play young Hans..."
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Wed Jul-08-15 02:29 PM by PROMO

  

          

which I can see more than Chris Pratt.

Paul was retweeting and saying how dope that'd be, and the official Star Wars twitter followed him right after.

does that mean anything? probably not, but yeah.

  

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2. "RE: twitter was speculating that Aaron Paul was gonna play young Hans..."
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>which I can see more than Chris Pratt.
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>Paul was retweeting and saying how dope that'd be, and the
>official Star Wars twitter followed him right after.
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>does that mean anything? probably not, but yeah.

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4. "Aaron Paul was GREAT as Jesse Pinkman"
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He's good for shows on CW or MTV at best, however. He should be nowhere near iconic roles like Han Solo.

Meanwhile, Chris Pratt is pretty much perfect for younger Harrison Ford characters.

He's perfect for Solo AND Indiana Jones.

  

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6. "Yeah Chris Pratt is a star and would do the comedic timing better"
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The other dude is better for tv. Thats it.


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14. "completely disagree. Paul has that affable cynicism that's critical..."
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to making Hans believable. Pratt is too happy-go-lucky.

  

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20. "its easier to act serious than t is to be funny "
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And Han is a funny asshole
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3. "fuck this shit"
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5. "They need that dude who was young Ford in Age of Adaline."
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Dead fucking ringer.

Fuck this movie idea, though.

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7. "I don't see whats wrong with the idea"
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I dont think its risky, it has potential. The Boba Fett movie has as much appeal to me


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22. "I also hate the Boba Fett idea."
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Unless it's a sequel and he survived somehow.

I'm adamantly against any and all prequels. For any franchise. They are, with very insanely few exceptions, an awful idea.

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23. "Photo for those who didn't see young Ford in Age of Adaline:"
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8. "Michael B. Jordan for young Lando."
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21. "Nah. Donald Glover."
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24. "hell to the fuck no lol"
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9. "disney milking that cow."
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13. "the best way they know how"
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26. "Epcot Center Cher-Kapow!"
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51. "LMAO stupid"
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10. "This sounds terrible...leave his origin as is"
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we don't need to know everybody's backstory

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15. "Eh, as long as it's not a "comprehensive" origin story, I'm cool"
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A Han Solo biopic would be a bad idea. I don't need to know why he became a smuggler and a "scoundrel". But if they picked one section of his back-story, I'd be cool. To kind of re-hash a discussion here in PTP from when Disney first announced they were doing these "origin" movies, if they do some "Ocean's 11 in space" shit for this film, I'd be cool. Maybe show him hooking up with Chewie or winning the Falcon from Lando (that could be the opening scene); anything beyond that is unnecessary.

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11. "Isn't the word that Lord and Miller are going to be apart of this"
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I'm not excited for this at all but I hope they can help.

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12. "Chris Pratt is the same age as Harrison Ford was in Star Wars"
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How could this be a prequel??

  

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16. "it only has to be before SW, if it's 5 years or less"
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what's the age problem? also, they haven't said it's pratt soooooo

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17. "Well doing it as a prequel that takes place 5 years before Star Wars is ..."
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Is it a flashback episode of a TV movie??

Could they do Shadows of The Empire with a different cast??

I think the prequel movies would be better suited to minor characters - or aliens or old people. Chewbacca is 200 years old, Yoda is 900, and they have make-up that can hide who's playing them.

I'd think Han Solo movie 10 years before Star Wars makes more sense.

The period after leaving Garris Strike's band of theives, to joining the Imperial academy to freeing Chewbacca would make a great movie.

The Episodes I-III prequels really screw this up for me, becuase Han Solo's rought 20 when the Jedis are wiped out, then doesn't remember much about them at the age of 35. (I think Han Solo is actually 24 in the book when they meet Luke, but it doesn't play that way in the film.)

I should stop worrying about it, these films will probably get my $14 adminssion.

  

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18. "pretty much the last line"
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you ain't gon not watch it.

I don't think Disney is some bastion of credibility, but what we've seen so far suggests they'll at least do something that makes some sense

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19. "nobody will care about that"
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25. "Pratt is just speculation"
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Id bet it'll focus on a 17-18 year old Han.

  

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27. "‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Film: Alden Ehrenreich Lands The Lead In Spinof..."
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‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Film: Alden Ehrenreich Lands The Lead In Spinoff

http://deadline.com/2016/05/star-wars-han-solo-movie-alden-ehrenreich-frontrunner-cast-1201737425/

  

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28. "Donald Glover is Lando"
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"After weeks of rumors and hedging, it’s official: Donald Glover will be playing the young Lando Calrissian in the standalone Han Solo Star Wars movie."

http://www.starwars.com/news/donald-glover-cast-as-young-lando-calrissian-in-upcoming-han-solo-star-wars-stand-alone-film

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29. "dope."
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of course the internet will hate it, because the internet. but it's a great choice imo.

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30. "21"
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31. "+"
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32. "pass."
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33. "still, see ya in line bruh"
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45. ""WRONG" - Drumpf"
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34. "Fine - but he's 4 inches shorter"
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Maybe they'll use some of that technology from The Hobbit but in reverse?

Lando always seemed like a BIG guy to me - Childish seems like a small dude.

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35. "It'll work out... he's the same height as the new Hans"
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THey're both around 5'9"... while Ford and Williams were both around 6'. As long as they're not all in the same scene somehow, it won't be a problem

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42. "regardless of height, he's just too androgynous and unsuave..."
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for me to take seriously.

  

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36. "I have a bad feeling about this."
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37. "he definitely has the perfect look for Lando"
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and has the acting chops.

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38. "he has the perfect look for Geordi La Forge"
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39. "him too"
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multi talented for sure. can play suave debonair and intelligent roles.

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41. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhOG3XwX9Yw"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhOG3XwX9Yw

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40. "Hopefully he dont let Jabba call him a..."
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43. ""Hey Jabba, tell Mace that story you told me earlier...""
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44. "lol"
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46. "Works for me. But I'd be first in line if they'd cast Paperboi or Darius"
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47. "Woody Harrelson Confirms Role in ‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff"
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http://variety.com/2017/film/news/woody-harrelson-star-wars-spinoff-han-solo-1201966517/

Woody Harrelson Confirms Role in ‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff
JANUARY 22, 2017 | 11:50AM PT

It’s official: Woody Harrelson is joining “Star Wars.”

The actor confirmed Variety‘s story from earlier this month that reported he’ll be in the upcoming Han Solo spinoff during an interview at the Variety Studio presented by Orville Redenbacher at the Sundance Film Festival.

Asked by Variety if he would be playing Han Solo’s mentor in the spinoff, Harrelson responded, “Yeah, I am.”

On Jan. 3, Variety reported that Harrelson was the top choice to play the mentor to Alden Ehrenreich’s young Han Solo. At the time, however, talks were still in early stages. Harrelson is at Sundance to promote his new movie “Wilson,” which also stars Laura Dern.

Like fellow “Star Wars” spinoff “Rogue One,” which just crossed $1 billion at the worldwide box office, the currently untitled Han Solo spinoff will be set prior to “Star Wars: A New Hope.” Donald Glover and Emilia Clarke also star, and Phil Lord and Chris Miller are set to direct.

Harrelson already had close ties to one of the film’s producers, Allison Shearmur. The two worked together on “The Hunger Games” films, in which Harrelson also played a mentor to another young hero: Jennifer Lawrence’s Katniss Everdeen.

The “Star Wars” Han Solo spinoff is set to hit theaters on May 25, 2018.

  

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48. "Bradford Young is doing the Cinematography. EXCITED."
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I feel like this is his jumpoff point to directing. Can't wait. Dude is the TRUTH.

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49. "Definitely excited that Young is the DP"
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Has he talked about being a feature director? Earnest Dickerson turned into a pretty good director and Wally Pfister made Transcendence which had some interesting moments. I selfishly want him to remain a DP so he can make even more movies to enjoy his work.

  

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50. "He directed Common's "Black America Again" short"
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its coming..and him being director is going to mean that same amazing level of detail and creativity throughout a film.

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52. "Michael K Williams officially joins!"
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53. "Omar in space?!"
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Ok...between this and Bradford Young I'm interested in this one now.

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54. "Lord and Miller have left"
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STAR WARS

Young Han Solo film drops directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller
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POSTED ON JUNE 20, 2017 AT 7:35PM EDT


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In a major upheaval in the midst of production, next year’s Star Wars movie focusing on a young Han Solo has broken ties with directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller.

No new filmmaker has been announced, but in a statement, Lucasfilm says the movie will remain on course for a May 2018 release.

“Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it’s become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we’ve decided to part ways. A new director will be announced soon,” said Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy.

Lord and Miller, whose previous projects include The LEGO Movie, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, and the 21 Jump Street comedies, also issued a comment within the Lucasfilm announcement.



“Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase ‘creative differences’ but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew,” stated Phil Lord and Christopher Miller.

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A previously announced Star Wars stand-alone film, which sources tell EW was a Boba Fett movie, also dropped its director, Fantastic Four and Chronicle filmmaker Josh Trank — although that was long before even serious pre-production began. And Rogue One brought aboard frequent Bourne screenwriter and Michael Clayton filmmaker Tony Gilroy to assist on reshoots for that film, although original director Gareth Edwards (Godzilla) stayed on the project until the end.

There had been no major rumblings of difficulty on the set of the young Han Solo movie, which stars Alden Ehrenreich as a 20-something version of Harrison Ford’s infamous smuggler, Donald Glover in the role of his duplicitous frenemy Lando Calrissian — originated in The Empire Strikes Back by Billy Dee Williams — and Joonas Suotamo taking over Chewbacca from Peter Mayhew.



The movie costars Thandie Newton and Emilia Clarke in unspecified roles, Woody Harrelson plays a mentor figure, and Fleabag star Phoebe Waller-Bridge will play a performance-capture character.

Whoever takes over the movie will inherit a project that has already undergone most, if not all, of its principal photography, and it’s not clear yet how much of the movie, written by Empire Strikes Back and The Force Awakens screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan and his son Jon Kasdan (The First Time), will be reshot — if any.

For fans of Lord and Miller, who promised a comic sensibility for the stand-alone project, it’s disappointing news, and worrisome for Star Wars fans in general.

For now, the Millennium Falcon is in a holding pattern

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56. "Rumor: they might have been fired."
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‘Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff: Lord & Miller Fired After Clashing With Kathleen Kennedy (EXCLUSIVE)

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Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s reputation for writing irreverent, poppy films such as “21 Jump Street” and “The Lego Movie” helped the white-hot writing and directing duo land one of the most coveted gigs in Hollywood — a chance to call the shots on a “Star Wars” film.

But their chance to put their stamp on a galaxy far, far away collapsed on Tuesday with the stunning announcement that the pair would be departing the still untitled Han Solo spin-off movie in the midst of production. Their exit comes after months of conflict with producer Kathleen Kennedy, others from her LucasFilm team, and co-writer and executive producer Lawrence Kasdan, and the two directors hired to infuse the “Star Wars” universe with a tongue-in-cheek sensibility.

Miller and Lord were stunned to find that they were not being granted freedom to run the production in the manner that they were accustomed to. They balked at Kennedy’s tight control on the set.



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A person with knowledge of the production said that the chemistry between the directors and Kennedy was never right.

“It was a culture clash from day one,” the source said. “She didn’t even like the way they folded their socks.”

The source said that while Lord and Miller were supposedly hired for their vision and distinctive brand of filmmaking when it came to the “Star Wars” production, Kennedy did not approve of their shooting style and process of interacting with actors and crew. “They weren’t given the leeway to do what they had to do,” the source said.

The duo also clashed with Kasdan, who has been an integral creative part of several “Star Wars” movies, dating back the the 1980 “The Empire Strikes Back.” Like Kennedy, he questioned many of the pair’s directing choices.

“Kathy, her team and Larry Kasdan have been doing it their way for a very long time. They know how the cheese is made and that’s how they want it made,” said the source. “It became a very polarizing set.”

In statements accompanying news of the directing shakeup, both Kennedy and Lord and Miller alluded to differing visions for the project.

“Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase ‘creative differences’ but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew,” said Lord and Miller in a statement.

Kennedy promised a new director would be announced shortly. It is unclear if and how Lord and Miller will be credited on the movie. Hollywood insiders said their forced departure in the middle of filming was a highly unusual situation.

Kennedy said in a statement, “Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it’s become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we’ve decided to part ways.”

The directors did not leave the production voluntarily, but were fired by LucasFilm. The decision comes as the Han Solo film still has several weeks left to shoot, according to another individual with knowledge of the production. An additional several weeks of reshoots have been planned to take place later this summer.

It’s not clear who will take over directing duties from Lord and Miller. Tony Gilroy (“Michael Clayton”) oversaw some of the reshoots for “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.” However, he will not be directing the Han Solo film, according to his spokesperson.

Kennedy had her own ideas about how the film should be shot. In an interview with Variety last year, she said she wanted the film to have “…a heist or Western type feel,” adding, “We’ve talked about Remington and those primary colors that are used in his paintings defining the look and feel of the film.”

Some insiders believe that while Kennedy wants to make a splash by hiring young indie directors such as Gareth Edwards (“Rogue One: A Star Wars Story”) and Rian Johnson (“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”), she’s ultimately unwilling to empower them to make their own creative decisions.

Unlike Edwards and Johnson, Miller and Lord felt they had earned their stripes, having worked extensively in the major studio system.

The Han Solo film will focus on the Millennium Falcon pilot’s early days as a smuggler. The film stars Alden Ehrenreich in the role Harrison Ford made famous. The cast includes Donald Glover, Thandie Newton, Woody Harrelson, Michael K. Williams, and Emilia Clarke.

A spokesperson for Disney declined comment, other than to say that the Han Solo standalone remains slated for a May 25, 2018, release date. Lord and Miller’s reps also declined comment.

Ricardo Lopez contributed to this article.

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58. "Some more to add to the Variety article above"
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Read this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/mjsamps/status/877343276625297413

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59. "Well, at least it's starting to make sense. "
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Sounds like Kennedy and Disney are struggling to find the right balance with the spin off anthology films of letting the directors make unique films that don't have to fit the mold of the saga episodes, but still fit within the Star Wars universe without feeling like something totally different. That's why you had big reshoots on Rogue One with Garrett Edwards basically losing control of the final cut. Sounds like KK tried to do the same thing with this but L&M weren't having it.

  

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61. "Yeah but these directors need to understand "
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that the movies are still part of ONE big story. They cant feel that different. With Rogue One leading up to Ep4 within minutes of each other Edwards ultimately had to grasp that his vision, which may have been awesome, probably strayed way too far off from where Ep 4 picks up. Kathleen Kennedy wouldnt have stepped in for changes otherwise.

They have the creative freedom but its still on a leash. Its arguably the biggest franchise in movie history thats its new owners spent a good amount of money on and did a good job cleaning up the mess that it was left with (ie Legends) and making sure the story is more cohesive across all boards.

You gotta be quite delusional to think that you would be able to have 100% control lol

  

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62. "Exactly. And to your point, it really depends on what kind of "
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spin off it is. Rogue One led right into Episode IV so the tone HAD to match. Han Solo is a film about arguably the most popular character in the films so they have to be sure it fits with Harrison Ford's portayal.

Now eventually they'll likely do spin offs that aren't as connected with the original trilogy and if so those directors may have a bit more creative freedom. We'll see.

  

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63. "Do you know that for sure?"
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From my understanding this was supposed to be a truly stand alone prequel.

And why hire talent with a clear vision of the project if Kathleen just wanted a director for hire to what she wanted? She could've asked Brett Ratner to direct then.

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64. "Like I mentioned above, I think they are struggling with striking"
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the right balance with these. They want the spin offs to have their own tone and style - but if there are crossover characters (and in this case a MAJOR crossover character) then it still needs to fit within the overall Star Wars story and not confessing other canon.

For example, in A New Hope, Han was shown to be a straight up scoundrel. A liar, cheater, who would kill you in cold blood if it helped him get ahead. His encounter with Luke, Kenobi, and then Leia in A New Hope ended up changing him. So in this film, he needs to be an anti-hero at best. While it's fine for there to be a comedic tone, he also can't be doing straight up slapstick.

But to your point, you'd think that those type of creative decisions would have been made long before they started shooting. I'm guessing KK wanted to make big changes during reshoots and they weren't going for that.

  

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66. "At what point though do you stop chasing the "Star Wars tone""
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and just start trying to make a good movie?

Rogue One was pretty different from the saga films.

Literally, only two things about this had me excited which was the cast and Lord/Miller. With them gone I'm a bit more apprehensive about this whole thing. Especially considering who they're gonna replace them with.

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67. "I don't think this one has to have a "Star Wars tone", but it can't"
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outright contradict the other films when you have crossover characters. I don't even think that KK was trying to have this film match the tone because they wouldn't have even brought in Lord and Miller. But you gotta have the characters making sense.

For example it's perfectly fine for the MCU films to have their own tone based on the vision of the directors. But you can't have Tony Stark in Spiderman Homecoming and him having a completely different personality from Tony Stark in other MCU films. That's a character thing not tone.

Rogue One is a bit of a unique case though. With that movie you have no major characters who were crossover, so they had flexibility to build their personalities however they wanted. The exception is on the villain side with Vader and Tarkin, and both of them definitely matched their characters from other films. (I know some people hated Vader's choke joke, I think it fits though.) So with Rogue One they didn't have to worry about the main characters fitting a certain tone at all. But what they DID have to worry about is the story not creating plot issues with the original trilogy since the plot of the film leads right into A New Hope. They also wanted to be sure that the end of the film did match the tone of A New Hope so you could watch the films back to back and have it make sense. So they did things like incorporating more of the John Williams SW themes at the end, being sure that the Tantive IV was an exact match for what was seen in ANH, making the graphics on the Death Star plans match what was seen in ANH, etc.

  

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68. "The contradict thing is hard to say"
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without seeing what Lord and Miller did first.

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71. "These are all side stories tho from the main film. That's hella leeway"
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Obviously you can't have Han snorting intergalactic coke shooting pregnant aliens. But making it more slapstick or go for a darker film isn't going to ruin the main movies because these are separate. We had some bad movies in the Star Wars canon and the brand is as popular as ever. Unless they were really going off brand ("We are thinking Anchorman, but in space!") this just seems like micromanaging...for these directors star wars is special and I doubt they were going that far off the farm...its not like they hired Oliver Stone

  

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74. "NO NO NO. "
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They are ultimately NOT separate if they are still part of the bigger story. THAT is the problem, that thinking they are separate because they are "one offs" this is what confuses people. They started using those words to ward off rumours of them ever doing side trilogy's with these side stories because fans started getting worried. Thats why they always come out saying NO this is a one off story, there will be no sequel to it. Now do I ultimately believe that? Nope not for a second, especially if theres room for it and if the movie is widely successful. That being said a movie being focused on ONE character told in the the lineage of ONE story doesn't make it a separate movie. A separate movie would be a new made up character that we've never seen before that is far away from the Galactic War and no ties to any of the characters in the main trilogy.

I think the one place of the ONE story they are creating where they could really experiment and go the Game of Thrones type route while changing the feeling and the look is if they do The Old Republic. That wouldnt have to be necessarily funny, it could have a one-two jokes the way GOT has here and there. I think this would be the perfect starting point to experiment with tone etc. but even this still has to the things we love about Star Wars because its is also part of the ONE story.

  

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78. "How do you know that?"
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Not all of these have to tie in and unless you got a draft of the script, I doubt you know whether this is supposed to tie back in or just be a fucking stand-alone film.

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83. "The movie will explain how he got the Millennium Falcon"
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- His relationship with Lando
- A bit of Lando's backstory
- Han's orgins of being mentored by a another bounty hunter and becoming the man we see him in ANH
- Han's life as a bounty hunter
- How he made the infamous run in less than 12 parsecs

Yes. It ties into the main story. Its about Han. So therefore it ties into the story LOL Any side mission prior to what we see in ANH on any character is part of the ONE story. There is no debating this nor should it be hard to comprehend. Any side story is development of a character that ultimately leads into the ONE big shared story or shared universe.

  

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89. "Now your making shit up"
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A quick Google search gives sparse details on plot and this is what I found:
"Themed as a space Western, the film is centered on a young Han Solo, the roguish smuggler who later meets Obi-Wan Kenobi and Luke Skywalker in the Mos Eisley Cantina in Star Wars (1977) and his adventures with his Wookiee partner Chewbacca, including their encounter with Lando Calrissian"

You just putting assumptions out there now.

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90. "But the things ive said "
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Haveaslll been said over the months by people in or working on the movie....That we would see these things. But cool

  

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107. "They explained how he got the Millennium Falcon in Empire Strikes Back"
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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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72. "Well nobody knows for sure"
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Maybe the guys had a great pitch for the type of movie....maybe it didnt end up feeling or looking like how they described. Kathleen Kennedy did mention that the 3 of them discussed it being a "Heist Spaghetti Western" with certain colour pallets being discussed, I think that sentence really shows that whatever Lord and Miller did, even if dope, wasn't what they discussed.

You can't say well why didn't she just hire someone who would what she wanted but they clearly discussed this. I'm pretty sure Lord and Miller are quoted saying the same thing before they started shooting. Their vision clearly just didnt line up with the rest of the lore. Do I know that for sure? No, but those sentences being brought up again show that it just wasnt right.

  

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65. "Even more info here"
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'Star Wars': Why the Han Solo Film Directors Were Fired

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-why-han-solo-movie-directors-were-fired-1015474

Ron Howard and Joe Johnston are possible contenders to replace Phil Lord and Christopher Miller.

Creative differences is a term that is often used loosely when a director is fired from a Hollywood movie.

But it actually appears to ring true in case of Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, who have been let go by Lucasfilm chief Kathleen Kennedy from directing the ‪Star Wars spinoff that centers on the fan-favorite character Han Solo.

Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the style and vision of Lord and Miller clashed with that of Lawrence Kasdan, the legendary screenwriter behind the classics Empire Strikes Back and ‪Raiders of the Lost Ark, who also wrote, with his son, Jon Kasdan, the script for the Han Solo stand-alone set (for now) to be released in 2018.

Lord and Miller (21 Jump Street, The Lego Movie) have a comedic sensibility and improvisational style while Kasdan favors a strict adherence to the written word — what is on the page is what must be shot.

The creative clash, according to one insider, also came down to differences in understanding the character of Han Solo. “People need to understand that Han Solo is not a comedic personality. He’s sarcastic and selfish,” said that source.

The friction was felt almost immediately when the movie began shooting in February, sources say, but the directors always thought it could be worked through. Kennedy, the producer and head of Lucasfilm, decided to back her lifelong colleague, who shaped much of Solo’s character in Empire and ‪Return of the Jedi and who had a specific tone in mind for the new movie. The duo also didn’t feel they had the support of producer Allison Shearmur, who was acting as Lucasfilm’s representative on the London set.

Lord and Miller, who had relocated to London with their families for preproduction and production of the movie, were said to have been blindsided by the firing, which they learned about Monday, according to one source, although another disputed that account.

The production had gone on a short hiatus to review what had been shot and to clear the air.

"Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase 'creative differences' but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew," Lord and Miller said in a statement released Tuesday.

Lucasfilm and owner Disney have already targeted their replacement, although the companies are keeping mum.

Ron Howard is one of the names that has emerged, according to sources. Joe Johnston, who directed The Rocketeer and Jumanji, has been mentioned as another possible candidate. Others suggest that Kasdan, who has directed movies like ‪The Big Chill and Silverado, could step in as he is already in prime position to know what needs to be fixed. That move could be complicated by DGA rules preventing someone already working on a film taking over for a director that is being replaced except for a short-term emergency.

It is expected that a new director will take the next several weeks, with the production shut down, to go over what Lord and Miller have shot, re-edit what they’ve filmed “and go from there,” according to one source.

According to some observers, Lucasfilm should have known going in that a clash of tones could occur given Lord and Miller's previous work. But this is not the first time that Disney and Lucasfilm have had to take drastic turns on Star Wars movies. Last summer, the companies sidelined Gareth Edwards by bringing in Tony Gilroy to rewrite and direct substantial reshoots of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, a move that happened only five to six months before the movie was released. Rogue One proved to be a massive hit, both financially and critically.

The studio now is more than willing to flex its muscle, and spend chunks of money, to protect the Star Wars brand and to ensure that it is not tarnished by a movie that doesn't deliver what fans want.

Lord and Miller's next move is not immediately clear, but already rumors are circulating that the pair could return to The Flash, Warners' movie about the DC Comics hero to which they had been attached to helm several years ago. The project is currently on the hunt for a director.

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57. "Sounds like they couldn't get along with Kennedy and Kasdan. "
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But fired in the middle of shooting? Wow. I'm guessing this gets pushed back to December 2018, keeping the new tradition of SW at the end of the year.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/star-wars-han-solo-kathleen-kennedy-director-fired-1202473919/

Star Wars’ Han Solo Spinoff: Lord & Miller Fired After Clashing With Kathleen Kennedy (EXCLUSIVE)

Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s reputation for writing irreverent, poppy films such as “21 Jump Street” and “The Lego Movie” helped the white-hot writing and directing duo land one of the most coveted gigs in Hollywood — a chance to call the shots on a “Star Wars” film.

But their chance to put their stamp on a galaxy far, far away collapsed on Tuesday with the stunning announcement that the pair would be departing the still untitled Han Solo spin-off movie in the midst of production. Their exit comes after months of conflict with producer Kathleen Kennedy, others from her LucasFilm team, and co-writer and executive producer Lawrence Kasdan, and the two directors hired to infuse the “Star Wars” universe with a tongue-in-cheek sensibility.

A person with knowledge of the production said that the chemistry between the directors and Kennedy was never right.

“It was a culture clash from day one,” the source said. “She didn’t even like the way they folded their socks.”

The source said that while Lord and Miller were supposedly hired for their vision and distinctive brand of filmmaking when it came to the “Star Wars” production, Kennedy did not approve of their shooting style and process of interacting with actors and crew. “They weren’t given the leeway to do what they had to do,” the source said.

The duo also clashed with Kasdan, who has been an integral creative part of several “Star Wars” movies, dating back the the 1980 “The Empire Strikes Back.” Like Kennedy, he questioned many of the pair’s directing choices.

“Kathy, her team and Larry Kasdan have been doing it their way for a very long time. They know how the cheese is made and that’s how they want it made,” said the source. “It became a very polarizing set.”

In statements accompanying news of the directing shakeup, both Kennedy and Lord and Miller alluded to differing visions for the project.

“Unfortunately, our vision and process weren’t aligned with our partners on this project. We normally aren’t fans of the phrase ‘creative differences’ but for once this cliché is true. We are really proud of the amazing and world-class work of our cast and crew,” said Lord and Miller in a statement.

Kennedy promised a new director would be announced shortly. It is unclear if and how Lord and Miller will be credited on the movie. Hollywood insiders said their forced departure in the middle of filming was a highly unusual situation.

Kennedy said in a statement, “Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are talented filmmakers who have assembled an incredible cast and crew, but it’s become clear that we had different creative visions on this film, and we’ve decided to part ways.”

The directors did not leave the production voluntarily, but were fired by LucasFilm. The decision comes as the Han Solo film still has several weeks left to shoot, according to another individual with knowledge of the production. An additional several weeks of reshoots have been planned to take place later this summer.

It’s not clear who will take over directing duties from Lord and Miller. Tony Gilroy (“Michael Clayton”) oversaw some of the reshoots for “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.” However, he will not be directing the Han Solo film, according to his spokesperson.

Kennedy had her own ideas about how the film should be shot. In an interview with Variety last year, she said she wanted the film to have “…a heist or Western type feel,” adding, “We’ve talked about Remington and those primary colors that are used in his paintings defining the look and feel of the film.”

Some insiders believe that while Kennedy wants to make a splash by hiring young indie directors such as Gareth Edwards (“Rogue One: A Star Wars Story”) and Rian Johnson (“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”), she’s ultimately unwilling to empower them to make their own creative decisions.

Unlike Edwards and Johnson, Miller and Lord felt they had earned their stripes, having worked extensively in the major studio system.

The Han Solo film will focus on the Millennium Falcon pilot’s early days as a smuggler. The film stars Alden Ehrenreich in the role Harrison Ford made famous. The cast includes Donald Glover, Thandie Newton, Woody Harrelson, Michael K. Williams, and Emilia Clarke.

A spokesperson for Disney declined comment, other than to say that the Han Solo standalone remains slated for a May 25, 2018, release date. Lord and Miller’s reps also declined comment.

Ricardo Lopez contributed to this article.


  

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"Bottom line..if Kathleen Kennedy didn't think it was right "


  

          

and the man who gave Han a voice we know and love didn't think it was right...Then I'm fully behind the firing.

Lord and Miller are talented...but EARNED your stripes to run your own Star Wars set? Bruh.....you got to be fucking kidding me LOL If this was an animated film cool you have free reign...but 21 Jump Street are just cool films..they aren't great fucking films man. I get you can argue Kathleen got a little ego on her as far as wanting to run a tight ship or being close creatively on a Star Wars film but c'mon....its one of the biggest franchises out there. YOU HAVE TO BE. Disney didn't put her in charge for no reason than she gets fucking results. Yeah she will let you cook on your own....but you better make sure its the recipe you discussed.

Rumours are Ron Howard, or Kasdan himself might finish it off. Possibly the dude who did Jumanji who I believe is slated to do the next Star Wars one off movie (the rumoured Bounty Hunters flick). Not bad replacement choices

  

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69. "It depends tho. Are directors that disposable and untrustworthy?"
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But it's gotta be weird to be in a situation where you get hired for your talents and to run a set and you've got studio heads nitpicking on scenes, etc. So hiring of the young indie directors is not trying to give dudes a chance at a cheap price but to basically have workmen directors that are yes men?

Reason I was overjoyed Rian got the nod for Episode 2 is that with his fantastic genre work and presumably darker slant = possibility for greatness. If he's just there to fetch Kathy coffee...what's the point? Might as well upgrade a director of commercials then.

The thing is that heavy studio interference is why Marvel* and by extension Disney/Lucasfilm will never make a BAD movie...but why it probably will never make a GREAT one either, nahmean?


*not saying that they don't have their fair share of absolutely forgettable films. Was it here that asked if anyone remembers what happened in those first two Thor flicks? LOL.

  

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70. "^^^^^^^^^^"
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I'm saying. If you hire a visionary, let them execute the vision.

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75. "Easy to say when its not your dollars."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRNWFtgXo2E

  

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77. "Nigga Disney is multi-billion dollar corporation"
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That makes it back hand over fist each year before April.

Stop being corny.

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84. "Again...easy to say when its not YOUR money."
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*shrugs*

Its so easy as fans to say how studios or even sports teams should use their money they are investing just because it can be easily made back.

If thats corny. Cool. I'll be corny. Ionno what you wanna do with that sentiment but just because YOU want studios to do something a certain way because it makes sense to you as a fan to take those sort of risks is easier said than done especially looking from the outside, despite you working within that industry.....at the end of the day, its not YOUR money you are playing fantasy football/movie studio with.

  

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86. "Lucasfim doesn't necessarily play it safe tho"
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Ewok movie
Jar Jar Bink

One could argue Clone Wars 15 min shorts were also pretty experimental

Etc

I can get hedging your bets, but like I said that kind of QA will make sure you will never have a bad movie (assuming those in charge know their shit, sorry WB) , but great movies ain't made by committee. You can still hit all the necessary character beats/plot points without having to follow a strict tonal template. Oceans 11 is a heist film, but so is Heat, and so is Quick Change (shouts to Bill Murray)

  

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60. "Delete"
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N/M

  

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73. "what a sh!t show"
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How did Kennedy, etc not know what they were signing up for?

  

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76. "LOL why is that a conclusion?"
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How do you know Lord And Miller didn't deliver what they promised?

How do we know they both just agreed on something and it just wasnt working out for what Lucas ultimately thinks is best for their company?

Im sure they knew EXACTLY what they signed up for. Shit just didnt work. It happens in creative collaborations ALLL the time

  

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80. "are you saying this isn't a sh!t show?"
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I honestly don't care enough to get into a debate about a Han Solo movie but look

If I hire someone at my gig, and they aren't a good fit, that's as much on me as them.

Unless they straight up lied.

Are you saying these two directors straight up lied??


They hired directors and didn't hammer out expectations/vision on tone?

They hired directors without knowing how they manage their sets, etc?

etc, etc.


I mean, I guess it is possible that they discovered they had a cocaine addiction or some sh!t


But if they were really canned for how they run their sets and that Lucasfilm didn't like the tone?


Yeah, that's on the company as they made a bad hire.


Who saw 21 Jump Street and said "Man, I'd like these dudes to direct a big budget Star Wars movie" ??


Maybe next time hand the keys to something like this to someone you know better and trust more?


Meh, I honestly don't see the point of this movie anyway, beyond the obvious $$



  

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85. "They did....do you even know what Kathleen Kennedy has done? lol"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Kennedy_(producer)#Film_producer

Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) (associate to Steven Spielberg)
Poltergeist (1982) (associate producer)
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) (producer)
Twilight Zone: The Movie (1983) (associate producer) (segment 2)
Gremlins (1984) (executive producer)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) (associate producer)
The Color Purple (1985) (producer)
Young Sherlock Holmes (1985) (executive producer)
Back to the Future (1985) (executive producer)
The Goonies (1985) (executive producer)
Fandango (1985) (executive producer)
An American Tail (1986) (executive producer)
The Money Pit (1986) (producer)
*batteries not included (1987) (executive producer)
Empire of the Sun (1987) (producer)
Innerspace (1987) (co-executive producer)
The China Odyssey: 'Empire of the Sun', a Film by Steven Spielberg (1987) (associate producer)
The Land Before Time (1988) (co-executive producer)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) (executive producer)
Always (1989) (producer)
Back to the Future Part II (1989) (executive producer)
Dad (1989) (executive producer)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) (associate producer)
Tummy Trouble (1989) (executive producer)
Arachnophobia (1990) (producer)
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990) (executive producer)
Roller Coaster Rabbit (1990) (executive producer)
Back to the Future Part III (1990) (executive producer)
Joe Versus the Volcano (1990) (executive producer)
Hook (1991) (producer)
An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991) (executive producer)
Cape Fear (1991) (executive producer)
A Brief History of Time (1991) (executive producer) (uncredited)
A Wish for Wings That Work (1991) (TV) (executive producer)
Noises Off (1992) (executive producer)
Schindler's List (1993) (executive producer)
We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story (1993) (executive producer)
A Dangerous Woman (1993) (executive producer)
Jurassic Park (1993) (producer)
A Far Off Place (1993) (executive producer)
Trail Mix-Up (1993) (executive producer)
Alive (1993) (producer)
Milk Money (1994) (producer)
The Flintstones (1994) (executive producer)
Balto (1995) (executive producer)
The Indian in the Cupboard (1995) (producer)
Congo (1995) (producer)
The Bridges of Madison County (1995) (producer)
Twister (1996) (producer)
The Best of Roger Rabbit (1996) (executive producer)
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) (executive producer)
A Map of the World (1999) (producer)
Snow Falling on Cedars (1999) (producer)
The Sixth Sense (1999) (producer)
Olympic Glory (1999) (executive producer)
Jurassic Park III (2001) (producer)
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) (producer)
The Sports Pages (2001) (TV) (executive producer)
Signs (2002) (executive producer)
The Young Black Stallion (2003) (producer)
Seabiscuit (2003) (producer)
Munich (2005) (producer)
War of the Worlds (2005) (producer)
Persepolis (2007) (executive producer)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007) (producer)
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008) (producer)
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) (producer)
Ponyo (2009) (U.S. version co-producer)
Crossing Over (2009) (producer)
The Last Airbender (2010) (executive producer)
Hereafter (co-producer with Clint Eastwood, Robert Lorenz & Steven Spielberg) (2010)
The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn (2011) (producer)
War Horse (2011) (producer)
The Secret World of Arrietty (2012) (U.S. version executive producer)
Lincoln (2012) (producer)
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) (producer)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) (producer)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) (producer)
Untitled Han Solo film (2018) (producer)
Star Wars Episode IX (2019) (producer)
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87. "seriously. th'fuck is a lord and miller?"
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if it legitimately came down to creative differences, with KK and larry kasdan having one vision and L&M having another, i know which track record i'm siding with.

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97. "**blinks**....um, not sure why you seem so emotional over this"
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All I'm saying is at some point they said "lets give these 21 Jump Street dudes a shot"...

and maybe that wasn't the best decision....


Not to mention, they are now seemingly 2 for 2 on needing to call for drastic changes in their spinoffs.


Relax, dog. You her nephew or something?


We all f*ck up. She f*cked up and hired some directors that she obviously shouldn't have.


Either way, my prediction is this entire ordeal is going to be 100x better and more interesting than the actual movie.

  

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98. "Oh the old OKP response when they figure out they were wrong reply"
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Lol the cliche "relax man why you emo about it" response

That shit never gets old

It's not LucasFilms fault those directors wanted to do their own thing not realising the situation they were in. They were brought for a little humour, word is they kept improvising and not making the movie they all planned. The lead actor playing Han even just came out saying that the loose improvising shoot was changing the tone and the story too much. So what else do you want? Lol Shit hsppens. Just like Kevin Smith said, they have enough money and time to throw at the movie to get it done how they want.

Stop being emo and just say u didn't know Kennedy's track record and keep it moving no need to front cause u were wrong lol

  

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79. "Same thing happened on Rogue One and it turned out great"
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81. "True...Rogue One was dope. Miles better "
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than TFA.

I wasn't commenting on the quality of a film I haven't seen yet.


Just saying this particular situation is nutty.

Oh well.

  

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82. "Miles Teller even"
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88. "Ron Howard to finish it"
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Hard pass

http://www.starwars.com/news/ron-howard-to-assume-directorial-duties-on-the-untitled-han-solo-film?cmp=smc%7C946759614


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FILMS // JUNE 22, 2017

RON HOWARD TO ASSUME DIRECTORIAL DUTIES ON THE UNTITLED HAN SOLO FILM
Lucasfilm is pleased to announce that Academy Award-winning filmmaker Ron Howard has been named director of the untitled Han Solo film.

“At Lucasfilm, we believe the highest goal of each film is to delight, carrying forward the spirit of the saga that George Lucas began forty years ago,” said Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm. “With that in mind, we’re thrilled to announce that Ron Howard will step in to direct the untitled Han Solo film. We have a wonderful script, an incredible cast and crew, and the absolute commitment to make a great movie. Filming will resume the 10th of July.”

Howard has made some of the biggest hits and most critically-acclaimed movies of the modern era. Among his many films are Lucasfilm’s Willow, Apollo 13, A Beautiful Mind (winner of four Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Best Director), The Da Vinci Code, Frost/Nixon, and Rush. He also narrated and produced the beloved comedy series Arrested Development, starred in George Lucas’ American Graffiti, and remains a TV icon for his roles in The Andy Griffith Show and Happy Days.

The untitled Han Solo film is slated for a May 25, 2018, release.

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91. "I didn't think it was possible to give less fucks about this movie"
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but it is. I probably would have seen it out of pure Pavlovian response but nothing about this excited me (other than maybe Donald Glover/Woody Harrelson). Now they've brought in the directorial equivalent of a cup of room temperature water to finish this out. yuck.

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92. "Swing and a miss"
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Ron can do some big budget drama with a bit of action, but I'm worried about how he'll do this.

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93. "They aren't RE-DOING the movie lol"
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How is this any different than when Gilroy came in and did the same thing for Edwards on Rogue One?

Clean it up. Finish it up with the help of a capable director like Kasdan who also wrote it. Ron Howard is a polished and established director you would want to get a situation like this done how you want. Re-hiring another younger director at this point of the film would make no sense. I wont be surprised if the film still has a lot of what Lord & Miller brought but just toned down and done more of how it was initially planned amongst them all.



  

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94. "*shrug* whatever they have is what they have"
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he's bringing it home

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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95. "Odds this gets pushed to Xmas?"
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96. "lol ron fucking howard"
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i mean i'm hating on dude but ron howard for a star wars movie? is brad bird busy ?

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99. "His relationship with Kasdan and Kennedy"
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Is rumoured why it happened as the trust is there and will most likely be Ron and Larry doing it

  

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100. "Alden Ehrenreich Shot First (swipe)"
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There ya go. Looks like Lord & Miller got a little chip on their shoulder and it shows in the teenage girl type tweet about it In May. I like them but they seem to have been really feeling themselves. You can't step to Hollywood royalty like Kasdan or Kennedy who have a way longer proven track record. These guy are still babies in the game

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/06/what-our-sources-are-saying-about-the-star-wars-han-solo-shakeup.html

  

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101. "BTW I like how Alden knows how serious him getting the "
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character right is...Glad he spoke up when he felt the improv shit was making the whole movie change

  

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102. "Nigga do you have money invested in this shit?"
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I mean you're riding hard for corporate right now?

I mean that site looks wild suspect. Especially considering the fact Entertainment Weekly dropped this:

http://ew.com/movies/2017/06/22/ron-howard-takes-over-directing-duties-on-han-solo-film/

How the Han Solo film broke apart — with Ron Howard picking up the pieces

Move comes just after directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller were fired

Anthony Breznican @Breznican

Posted on June 22, 2017 at 11:06am EDT

Ron Howard is now steering the Millennium Falcon. And he has to maneuver it out of a giant asteroid field.

A little over a day after the directors of the upcoming Han Solo movie were fired, Lucasfilm has turned to the veteran filmmaker to steer the Star Wars project home.

“At Lucasfilm, we believe the highest goal of each film is to delight, carrying forward the spirit of the saga that George Lucas began forty years ago,” Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy said in a statement. “With that in mind, we’re thrilled to announce that Ron Howard will step in to direct the untitled Han Solo film. We have a wonderful script, an incredible cast and crew, and the absolute commitment to make a great movie. Filming will resume the 10th of July.”

Howard previously worked with Lucasfilm when he directed the 1988 fantasy adventure Willow, with Warwick Davis, Val Kilmer, and Joanne Whalley. And the A Beautiful Mind Oscar-winner also served as an unofficial adviser to George Lucas on his prequel films, having been a longtime friend ever since costarring in Lucas’s coming-of-age classic American Graffiti in 1973.

Brace yourself for a wave of “Help us, Opie-Wan Kenobi, you’re our only hope” headlines.

The Star Wars stand-alone project, starring Alden Ehrenreich in the role originated by Harrison Ford, was just weeks away from ending principal photography when directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller, best known for The LEGO Movie, were dropped from the film Monday — with Lucasfilm and the filmmakers both citing “creative differences.”

The question remained for Star Wars fans: What exactly were those differences, and why were they so insurmountable that neither side was willing to compromise to avoid this public upheaval?

Here’s what we know now: Several sources close to the movie and others close to the directors tell EW that ever since filming began back in February, Lord and Miller, who are known primarily for wry, self-referential comedies like 21 Jump Street and the pilot episodes for Brooklyn Nine-Nine and Last Man on Earth, began steering the Han Solo movie more into the genre of laughs than space fantasy.

Apparently, the split was a subtle one that became magnified over time: Lucasfilm and producer Kennedy believed Lord and Miller were hired to add a comedic touch; Lord and Miller believed they were hired to make a comedy.

It’s an ironic turn. Last year, when Rogue One was undergoing reshoots, fans were critical because they assumed Lucasfilm was trying to “lighten” the war story with more comedy. Those concerns were unfounded, but now the opposite may be the case for the Han Solo film: Lucasfilm wants young Han Solo to be more grounded.

As usual with stories like this, not all sources agree. Another individual close to the movie says it wasn’t a question about how much comedy would be in the film. The consensus, however, is that the filmmakers were encouraging significant improvisation from the actors, which some at Lucasfilm believed was shifting the story off-course.

With actors who are also writers, and gifted at coming up with their own material, like Atlanta creator and star Donald Glover in the role of Lando Calrissian and Fleabag creator and star Phoebe Waller-Bridge as an unspecified motion-capture character (which in galactic terms, that usually signals a droid or alien), the sources say Lord and Miller began straying from the script by Star Wars veteran Lawrence Kasdan and his son, Jon Kasdan (The First Time).

One person close to the fired directors says: “They thought they were brought on to make a Phil and Chris movie. … Sometimes they just thought the actors could do it differently.”

But others on the project say they pushed too far. It wasn’t just a question of tone. The variations added up to significantly change the story. They may have been brought aboard to give young Han Solo a wiseacre vibe and an irreverent style, but Lucasfilm still felt the directors had a responsibility to tell the story as written.


When dailies began rolling in featuring improvisation from the actors and new ideas from the directors that significantly parted ways with the script, the relationship with the home office at Lucasfilm became fraught. As principal photography for the movie approached its end, it became clear that the filmmakers and producers did not share the same vision for some critical scenes.

Reshoots were always possible (they are factored into almost every major film these days, and each new Star Wars project has undergone them), but as Lord and Miller dug in, refusing to compromise on what they saw as best for the film, the partnership went from strained to fractured. If they wouldn’t do the scenes as Lucasfilm and Kennedy wanted them now, why would they do them that way during reshoots?

Sources close to the studio tell EW that Kennedy was also determined to do what was best for the film. Those perspectives were just different — and growing further apart.

After relaunching the franchise, which had taken damage from the critical reception of the Star Wars prequels, and building not just an acclaimed new saga with The Force Awakens but kicking off a series of stand-alone films with Rogue One, Kennedy felt she had earned her galactic bona fides: The directors should give her the benefit of the doubt and follow her concept of what the Star Wars movie should be.

Lord and Miller are well-liked within the industry and have a style that has often led studios to compete for their attentions, but Kennedy — whose long history of credits include Back to the Future, E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, and Jurassic Park — also has an immense, proven track record. Backing her was Kasdan, Star Wars royalty — the screenwriter of The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens.

They became immovable objects. If the filmmakers were refusing to make the movie Lucasfilm expected, why continue?

On Monday, Lord and Miller were told they were terminated. The production was put on hold.

Howard’s name began circulating immediately, but yesterday his agency, CAA, was still saying a deal hadn’t been reached. This morning, it was done.

He will have two weeks to get to England and get up to speed on where things are, where they went awry from the studio’s point of view, and come up with a plan to complete it — if not on time, then with minimal extension to the schedule.

Meanwhile, Lord and Miller will begin packing up and heading home. Reps for the directors declined to say whether they might return Warner Bros.’ big-screen version of the DC Comics superhero The Flash, which they had left to take on the Han Solo movie. But since they were fired over a difference of vision, rather than an out-of-control production, they aren’t expected to take a massive career hit.

A source close to them said they wouldn’t have bad blood toward Howard. “Somebody has to take over the movie.”

Some close to the pair say Lord and Miller see the Han Solo film like a romantic break-up. It’s the end of an unhappy relationship, something they once deeply cared about, even if there is no future together.

To paraphrase the smuggler and the princess:

“I don’t love you.”

“I know.”

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103. "If that EW story is true then I'm definitely on Disney's side here. "
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I say "if" because EW and specifically Anthony Breznican are essentially the unofficial PR arm of Lucasfilm. When they want to "leak" something it goes to Breznican first. So that may just be the spin that Disney/Lucasfilm wants to put on it.

But if it's true, Disney is clearly right in firing Lord and Miller. If they are encouraging so much improvisation and deviation from the script that they are making a comedy, that isn't good. Sounds like they may have been doing a 21 Jump Street type of thing where they were making a Star Wars movie that made fun of itself. A little bit of that is okay - for example in Rogue One having the "I've got a bad feeling about this" line get cut off was hilarious - but that was a joke that still actually made sense in story because you had K2-SO saying the line and getting hushed after we'd been hearing him with sarcastic quips the entire movie. But I can definitely see Lord and Miller shooting this but going way further with that type of humor, to the point that it would almost feel like a parody of Star Wars.

I also think that the EW story fits perfectly with the starwarsnewsnet story he posted u above. I'm nowhere near as positive as Heinz is on this Han Solo film - I think this is a mess and it probably isn't gonna get fixed. But I'm definitely on Disney's side based on what we've heard so far.

  

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104. "If you know anything about Star Wars "
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then you will know that "suspect" looking site is one of the most trusted sites to break news of the whole lore.

Also..I dont understand all the shit in that "suspect" article had everything in this article you posted other saying that it was Alden who said something to the produces, which I dont think EW would ever confirm publicly. Why would they.

Because I don't agree with you im riding for corporate? Its one or the other with you? This isn't high school bruh.

  

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105. "Cause nigga you posting like the Drake clapping gif"
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all through this post.

It's weird to see people cape for multi-billion dollar corporations like you are. And to say this is some high school shit when you early are trying to say "it's not your money" is highly contradictory.

And I say that that site looks sus cause it looks like a 2001 era blog.

As for SW news, outside of noted sites, the only place I trust is makingstarwars.com as 90% of their shit panned out to be true.

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106. "everyone is still gonna go see it and it'll probably be good"
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108. "basically. SW fans are so fucking dramatic lmao."
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109. "Set photos + better look at Han and Chewie"
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Plus the characters Woody and Emilia Clarke are playing. The set looks dope. Not mad at how Han is looking either.

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/07/tmz-reveals-leaked-star-wars-han-solo-set-pictures-footage.html

I'm gonna assume Lucas "leaked" these to TMZ so fans can see the movie is going smoothly. With D23 next week lets hope we at least get an official movie title and a little bit of a teaser trailer with the stuff they had already shot with Lord & Miller. It can be super short but I think they could pull something off. Look at Guardians of the Galaxy they put up a teaser after shooting for only 2 weeks. They can do that here.

  

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110. "First look at Lando"
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https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/07/ron-howard-shares-new-photo-with-donald-glover-as-lando-calrissian-from-han-solo.html

  

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111. "Can't see shit "
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Why even share that crap? Not you, but RH.

>https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/07/ron-howard-shares-new-photo-with-donald-glover-as-lando-calrissian-from-han-solo.html

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112. "Lol its a taste not a the whole meal"
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We are even lucky he was allowed to show that much but i think these pics and the TMZ "leaks" (those have to be done deliberately) were what we get now since they knew we werent getting a teaser trailer or trailer of any kind.

  

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113. "Donald Glover on the switch. "
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/han-solo-movie-donald-glover-star-wars-firing-1027930

Donald Glover Feels Like "the Baby in the Divorce" After Han Solo Shake-Up


Ron Howard stepped in to direct after Chris Miller and Phil Lord were fired: "You sort of feel like, 'I know I'm not your first choice … ,' and you worry about that."

For Donald Glover, playing young Lando Calrissian has come with an unexpected complication.

Stepping into the shoes of the iconic Star Wars character played by Billy Dee Williams was always going to be challenging, but behind-the-scenes drama on the Han Solo spinoff became public in June when directors Phil Lord and Chris Miller were fired over creative differences with Lucasfilm.

In this week's Hollywood Reporter cover story, Glover is opening up about the changes on set, which saw Ron Howard step in as director.

"Ron is such a legend, and he knows exactly what the vision for what he is doing is. … hired us, so you sort of feel like, 'I know I'm not your first choice … ,' and you worry about that," Glover told THR television editor Lacey Rose over a meal in London. "To be honest, I don't know exactly what happened. I feel like I was the baby in the divorce, or the youngest child. The oldest child is like, 'We know what's happening, but we are keeping you out of it.' And I'm just like, 'Was that scene good? How did you feel?' "

Glover also spoke about a lunch he had (in disguise) with Williams in January, three months after being cast as Lando. An admittedly nervous Glover expounded on ideas he had for the character: "I was like, 'I've always felt like this character could do this, and he represents this, and I kind of feel like he comes from here, and it's very obvious he has a lot of taste, so maybe he grew up seeing that from afar? Because I'm like that. Maybe he saw it from other planets and was like, 'I want to be that.' " Glover said, laughing as he shared the memory. "He just let me ramble on and on, and then finally I was like, 'So, what do you think?' And he goes, 'Yeah, I don't know about all that. Just be charming.' "

Shortly after the lunch in January, Williams spoke with THR about the two Landos meeting — and shared his own side of the story.

"He’s a very delightful young man, I must say. We had a very nice lunch and we talked for a very long time and it was very easy," Williams said at the time. "He had questions about . I guess he was doing what normal actors do, they just want to find out what direction they want to take so they gather their information. So, we just sat and talked, and I didn’t want to impose on anything he wanted to do — he’s got his own ideas, I would imagine. I know he has his own ideas. He’s a very talented young man. In fact, I was listening to some of his music and it’s pretty good stuff."

The Han Solo spinoff opens May 25, 2018. Read the full THR cover story here.

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114. "And the title is..."
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https://twitter.com/RealRonHoward/status/920320502320771073

  

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115. "Will there be black Solo cups with a red stripe?"
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And will The White Stripes reunite as the Red Stripes and do the jingle??

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116. "I REALLY hope this isn't the final title"
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It's trying too hard and seems like it came from someone who is trying to be cool but actually isn't.

This project just keeps getting worse.

  

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117. "Oh god lol it's perfect"
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The fact that it's short is best because they want to keep the tag line "a star wars story" on all these types of movies. Something like "Smugglers Run" would be cool but would be too long for them. They still want to get casual fans or people who don't know the franchise interested by letting them know it's part of Star Wars. I think it's smart. As much as is nerds know the world there's still many who dint


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118. "Admittedly, I'm only a casual SW fan"
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But, using 'Han Solo: Smuggler's Run - A Star Wars Story' would have worked for me. It would give me a sense of intrigue and at least frame what the movie would likely be about.

Maybe it's because I didn't take to Han as a kid and so to just refer to him by his last name seems uncool.

  

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119. "First image?"
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https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/12/some-updates-on-solo-a-star-wars-story-first-look-at-thandie-newton-sort-of-possible-cameos-trailer-coming-soon.html

This might be an older image before they had the official title or this is the international title but yeah...I like how the characters look, hopefully they get the mannerisms right for Han and Lando

Apparently we should start seeing marketing and images for this movie very soon


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120. " "Shit is trash, b" -Anonymous Source"
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https://movieweb.com/han-solo-movie-disney-expects-box-office-bomb/

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121. "Drunk Uncle was on Collider who has a friend who saw a cut"
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Said it looked dope and he's a huge Star Wars geek so *shrugs*

Ill wait for Bwood to tell me his impression when or if he gets to see a cut




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123. "I'm not believing it, I find the timing funny after all TLJ hooplah"
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122. "yeah those rumors are always pretty damn accurate"
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124. "I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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125. "this is ridiculous"
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Okay. It's a billion dollar franchise. In just recent times they have fired directors and writers MID-SHOOT just to make sure the right Star Wars movie gets made.

And now, with several months still to go before the movie release, Disney is expecting its big cash cow...to bomb?

I call bullshit.

I'm not saying it'll be great. Outside of Donald Glover and whatshername from Fleabag, I was underwhelmed by the cast. But a bomb? Hardly. That just sounds like someone spreading shitty rumors. If that really was the case, we wouldn't hear that Disney is bracing for a bomb--we would be hearing about more reshoots.

Like Disney would just go "Ah we'll just let this one tank and get the money back on episode 9." That's not quite how shit goes down lol.

  

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126. "agree"
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bomb for SW maybe I can see Justice League type numbers for this one but will still make money. I do believe this will be the least highest grossing SW movie yet, but far from a bomb. This is the first one I'm not too excited about, a good trailer could change that tho.

  

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127. "more reshoots? the fuck?"
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https://screenrant.com/han-solo-movie-reshoots-ron-howard/

  

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128. "this isn't surprising"
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They are tweaking it. It's not new or a red flag.

Although don't get me wrong, I'm hella skeptical on this one. I don't know about Ron Howard, plus I'm not sure I need or want a new Star Wars film less than a year after the last one. This ain't the MCU. One Star Wars movie every Christmas is more than enough.

  

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129. "The original "reshoots" were essentially Ron Howard doing a new"
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movie, and these are reshoots for that new movie. That being said, while I'm a huge Star Wars fan, and I loved The Last Jedi, I don't have high hopes at all for Solo.

  

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130. "yep"
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The Force Awakens felt like a big event.
Rogue One felt like a big event.
The Last Jedi felt like a big event.

Solo feels like...not a big event. At all. And not just because in general I don't get excited about movies with Woody Harrelson.

And I could really care less about Han Solo's character apart from Harrison Ford's performance. The only part that even has me kind of interested is Donald Glover as Lando, because so far he has been holding shit DOWN--even if it just means five minutes in Spiderman.

That said...I'm still going to see this opening night when it comes out. As much as I hate to admit it, right now Disney still has all of us Gen X mufuckas on lock.

  

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131. "Its january why would it feel like a big event?"
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If the trailer is good i bet you say different lol i say we see one at the superbowl or before that
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132. "this isn't actually a debate, yo"
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The last three Star Wars flicks felt (to ME) like major cinematic events. I was excited about them all year. And IMO they delivered, but the point is that each one was the NEXT. BIG. STAR WARS. FILM. Each time, the anticipation started up more than a year before the movie came out.

With this one, I'm just like okay, sure. I'm not too thrilled about the cast apart from Donald Glover, very lukewarm about Ron Howard in the director's chair...and in general, I'm not terribly interested in Han Solo's backstory.

Again, I'm still going to see it opening night, with the same group of friends I've been going to see Star Wars with for the last twenty sum years. And sure, I'll check out the trailer when it drops. Who knows, maybe it'll be great. It's just that this is the very first Star Wars film that I'm not excited about at all. Even counting those terrible prequels.

  

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133. "Agreed."
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I'm gonna go to my press screening.

I like the cast.

But man a movie about Han's backstory sounds boring. Same with a Boba Fett movie or a Yoda movie and so on and so on.

Lord and Miller made me excited cause they took unnecessary movies and made them great. Ron Howard has me back in disinterested mode.

Who knows. Maybe it'll be fire.

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135. "I don't see how this is any less of an event than Rogue One"
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People had the same complaints about production, not seeing much, or even a story with no lightsabers or jedi/sith. Then the trailer dropped and people changed but the casual fans didn't really know much about like they did with TFA. I'm not one to panick.

Is later than I want to see a trailer or poster? Of course but with the circumstances of production I rather than fix what they need to fix and showe when it's ready. That's what we are getting. *Shrugs*

It is very much debatable. Especially if you are in the perspective of not caring about the idea of a Han movie in the first place. The leak of the toys are pouring out now, they are ready to go. Let them cook.


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136. "no dude, it's not a debate"
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I didn't say the Han Solo movie is not a big event. I said it doesn't feel like a big event. TO ME. Unless you are on some Professor X shit, I don't see how we can debate my lack of excitement.

Like bwood said, maybe it will end up being good? So far Disney has been keeping it real with both the MCU and these new Star Wars movies, so it's not like there's no hope. And I don't even care about the reshoots. But I don't know. I'm not feeling the hype for this, plus the fact that a trailer's not even out...I mean the last three Star Wars movies were in December, and I want to say that each time there was at least a teaser trailer out by January. For a big franchise like this that seems a bit suspect.

But whatever. We'll see.

  

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139. "Thats fine...but "to you.." is a different statement than you originally..."
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You just plainly said it didn't feel like a big event...

If you just have a lack of excitement for it yourself thats cool, especially if you didn't want to really see this story be told.


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141. "you know what the word "feel" means, right?"
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142. "forget the last comment"
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Look I normally agree with you. And in general this isn't worth arguing about.

  

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143. "Cosign on all of this..."
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>With this one, I'm just like okay, sure. I'm not too thrilled
>about the cast apart from Donald Glover, very lukewarm about
>Ron Howard in the director's chair...and in general, I'm not
>terribly interested in Han Solo's backstory.

There just really isn't much that I'm excited about for this one at all, based on the story content, the director, and the cast. To Heinz's point, I felt the same way about Rogue One at first. However the big difference was the fact that the first trailer dropped 9 months or so before it came out, and that trailer got me hype. In the following months with all the news about big reshoots I was worried, but the next trailer that dropped in the fall had me hype as heck again. It definitely felt like a big event. Then the movie dropped, I loved it, and all was good in the world.

With Solo though a major difference is the fact that we are so close to it's release with no trailer, so really all we have to go on is the subject of the story, the director, and the cast, all of which are "meh" to me, then on top of that a director change and even more massive reshoots than Rogue One.

A small thing that adds to it is the fact that this is dropping in May and not December. While May used to be the traditional spot for Star Wars, after the last three years Star Wars has become a holiday tradition. A May release will have way more competition for people's attention, and just doesn't feel like as much of a special thing as the December SW releases. With all of the reshoots that happened, and the close release after TLJ stopping them from promoting Solo with a regular timeline, I'm not sure why they didn't just move Solo to December.

All this being said - if the trailer drops and is really good - then I'll get hype and maybe at that point it will feel like a "big event." We'll see...

  

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144. "RE: Cosign on all of this..."
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>A small thing that adds to it is the fact that this is
>dropping in May and not December. While May used to be the
>traditional spot for Star Wars, after the last three years
>Star Wars has become a holiday tradition. A May release will
>have way more competition for people's attention, and just
>doesn't feel like as much of a special thing as the December
>SW releases. With all of the reshoots that happened, and the
>close release after TLJ stopping them from promoting Solo with
>a regular timeline, I'm not sure why they didn't just move
>Solo to December.
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>All this being said - if the trailer drops and is really good
>- then I'll get hype and maybe at that point it will feel like
>a "big event." We'll see...
>
Definitely. This is such a small thing but honestly if Solo were being released in December I would be at least somewhat more interested in it, despite the reshoots and changes. Like you said, it has become a holiday tradition with me and old friends. But releasing it so early after TLJ, no trailer out, production problems, and in general a backstory that doesn't have me too hyped...

But yeah, the reason I don't really even want to argue this with Heinz is that at the end of the day, I'm going to see it regardless. They would have to seriously release a movie WORSE than the prequels to really slow down the money train at this point. I would probably go see that shit even if they cast Wilford Brimley as Han Solo.

  

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145. "Yep. They could literally tell us that Solo is a 2 hour compilation of "
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Harrison Ford fart videos and I would still be there day one with my pre-sale seats. At the end of the day, it's Star Wars. Disney might as well have a direct debit set up on my bank account - because I'm giving them my money. But we all know the feeling of anticipation that we typically get for these, and I don't have that right now for Solo.

  

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146. "Lolol basically "
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Listen big event feeling or not if they announced that the movie drops tomorrow on some Beyonce no marketing tip it would at the least do Rogue One numbers just because the fan base still wants to see it no matter what lol



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134. "its crazy that we are 4 months out and still no promo "
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no posters nothing. Shouldnt they have something out by now?

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137. "There is a poster"
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http://www.the-heroes-universe.com/blog/solo-a-star-wars-story-teaser-poster-hitting-theaters/

Saw it at my local theater.

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138. "the poster was up on opening day of TLJ"
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Sure, it's just letters on a black background - but it IS a poster.

Don't forget the Lego leaks:
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140. "I want the tshirt with that logo like NOW"
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i hated the logo for Rogue One altho i loved the movie. Also hated how the logo looked on screen in the beginning of the movie.



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147. "Plot description released"
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*Yawns*

http://comicbook.com/starwars/amp/2018/01/16/solo-a-star-wars-story-synopsis/?__twitter_impression=true

"Board the Millennium Falcon and journey to a galaxy far, far away in "Solo: A Star Wars Story," an all-new adventure with the most beloved scoundrel in the galaxy. Through a series of daring escapades deep within a dark and dangerous criminal underworld, Han Solo meets his mighty future copilot Chewbacca and encounters the notorious gambler Lando Calrissian, in a journey that will set the course of one of the Star Wars saga's most unlikely heroes."

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148. "if this is as dull as it sounds, the one good outcome might be"
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That Disney puts more focus on new Star Wars stories than doing these origin stories to answer all those questions that nobody actually asked.

Even the Old Republic might be more interesting. Han? Obi Wan? Bobba Fett? No thanks.

  

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149. "They're saying that Ewan McGregor won't be Obi"
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If he's not Obi-Wan, then I'm good on that shit to be honest.

A another prequel film with him and Qui-Gon? Hard fucking pass.

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150. "Yeah. I'd prefer they go down a route similar to Rogue One for these"
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anthology "Star Wars Story" films. To me, RO was the trial balloon that was put out there to see if people would care about a SW film that doesn't have any of the known major characters in it. And it did it in a somewhat "cheating" way by having it still have HUGE connections with the original trilogy. I'd love to see them go further down this path with smaller stories within the universe that aren't as connected to the main Empire/Rebellion conflict. That would make it much easier for directors to explore completely different genres and storytelling techniques while still being in the universe.

I don't really want to see a Bobba Fett movie, but a bounty hunter movie staring a new character that maybe even has a Fett cameo would definitely work. Maybe a movie about an imperial officer, from their perspective, dealing with the aftermath of Endor and ROTJ. There would be a connection to the main story, but that would only be the backdrop for something that could be a new and original take.

While I would love something about the Old Republic era, I can see why they want to stay away from that timeline because it could play into what's happening in the saga films, and because they want to save it for it's own trilogy. But I'm really not itching to see "Yoda, the Young Years".

  

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151. "I think those are things we see i doubt the movie is all about it tho"
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we'll def get more character development than just finding out these things from his story that we sort of already know abut get to see.

Plus theres a slew of characters it seems that we will be meeting where he has his own adventures with. I'm still hopeful for this movie *shrugs* i might be the only one but im just not one to panic


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156. "That's straight from the horse's mouth. "
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http://www.starwars.com/news/official-synopsis-for-solo-a-star-wars-story-revealed

The exact plot description from Disney.

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155. "That's a pretty standard, generic plot summary"
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It's essentially what they said the movie was going to be from the get go. It's not like they're going to reveal plot points.

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152. "I don't understand any excitement for this at all "
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I have absolutely zero desire to see a Han Solo movie.

It just seems like there are so many more interesting stories to tell with these secondary/companion films.

  

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153. "Doesn't mean they should do them right away"
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And just because some arent interested in his story or you particular doesn;t mean there isnt a good story to tell.

Rogue One was dope. It wasnt neccessary but it showed it can make a good movie out of a simple concept or even 1 line from a crawl. We didn't need it nor we did need to see it....but it worked and it was dope. The real value comes from Rogue One is knowledge that they can make us care about a story we already know and about new characters we don't know. But storyline wise of the whole Star Wars lore. Yeah we didn't need it. Doesn't mean it wasnt a good film or have value.

I think the biggest thing people need to just admit who are on screaming the same argument is that you want NEW shit NOW rather than later. But thats more of you problem.






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158. "Should/could, same difference to me."
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I'm not saying what they "should" did just stating what I'd prefer to see. Unlike the deplorable, alt-right dorks who cried about TLJ not being their granpappies SW, I don't feel any such sense of entitlement.

>And just because some arent interested in his story or you
>particular doesn;t mean there isnt a good story to tell.

You have it backward: I don't think there's an interesting story to tell.

It's nothing but stating the obvious to counter that with what is essentially just a rehash of The Dude line.

Yes, I know, my personal opinion has no bearing on what th he final product will actual look like.

>Rogue One was dope. It wasnt neccessary but it showed it can
>make a good movie out of a simple concept or even 1 line from
>a crawl.

I don't think any m If he is "necessary", nor do I require it to be necessary or even integral for it to be "good".

We didn't need it nor we did need to see it....but it
>worked and it was dope. The real value comes from Rogue One is
>knowledge that they can make us care about a story we already
>know and about new characters we don't know. But storyline
>wise of the whole Star Wars lore. Yeah we didn't need it.
>Doesn't mean it wasnt a good film or have value.

Oh...
....k

Not real sure what you're addressing here, but I'm not saying a Han Solo film needs to be necessary. I'm saying that there are better stories to tell. I already know that's just, like, you know, my opinion, man. Same as you have yours.


>I think the biggest thing people need to just admit who are on
>screaming the same argument is that you want NEW shit NOW
>rather than later. But thats more of you problem.

100% wrong. It's about not wanting THIS. The criticism of THIS isn't rooted in anything but THIS.

Is that cool with you, that some people aren't excited for or see the ultimate appeal of a solo Solo flick? Because, like it or not.... you don't get to tell other people what they REALLY think, because that would make you a literal mind reader, which would make you a superhero.

  

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154. "You, and everyone else who’s whining, is gonna go see it "
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I don’t get the point of it, but I’m gonna go see it too

  

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157. "1. I'm not doing anything remotely close to "whining", and 2. No, I'm no..."
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>I don’t get the point of it, but I’m gonna go see it too

Please explain how not understanding the appeal equates to whining. I really need to see the math on that, because its absurd.

As far as "too", nah. Hard pass. That *you* are going to see it is not an indication that *I* am going to see it.

  

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159. "So the film's run time is reportedly 2 hours and 23 minutes"
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Which undercuts/discredits the hot take that Disney thinks the movie is shit. Because if they thought it was shit or was going to bomb, they wouldn't green-light a nearly two and half hour run time. They'd could the shit out of it so that it be 90 to 100 minutes so that they could maximize the numbers of times theaters could show it per day.

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160. "I guess. Every one of these Disney SW could be shorter though."
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161. "All SW movies run long. Shortest one was the first and that was still..."
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...just over two hours.

And the Disney ones aren't THAT much longer than many of Lucas'. Rogue One and Force Awakens were shorter than Clones and Sith.

The quality of this film is of course yet to be determined. I'm just saying Disney doesn't THINK it's going to be shit or a bomb.

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162. "Just confirmed. Trailer drops Monday on GMA."
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So Good Morning America will once again debut a Star Wars trailer.

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163. "You think they still drop a teaser on Sunday?"
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165. "Maybe. But I doubt it."
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As Jthoal pointed out below Disney is gonna want a debut day all to themselves, as the Super Bowl has mad new shit dropping.

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164. "smart, I guess?"
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Avoid the Superbowl commercial hoopla.

Not like anything SW would ever get lost inthe mix, but still.

  

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166. "that short super bowl clip looked fantastic."
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168. "The Falcon lookin brand new!"
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167. "Super Bowl spot"
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https://youtu.be/9Szts88zY4o

Okay you have my attention.

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169. "Haha dude it looked so sick"
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170. "I wait for the full trailer tomorrow morning."
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We'll see.

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171. "nice teaser."
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too bad about that horrible title graphic, but I'm more interested now

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172. "Teaser trailer"
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https://youtu.be/dNW0B0HsvVs

Looks pretty but now that we have a full trailer... I don't know.

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173. "Yeah"
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I wasn't excited for this, and now, having seen yesterday's teaser and today's longer trailer...nope, still not excited.

  

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174. "Alden doesn't even feel like a young Harrison in"
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that trailer.

The swag is missing.

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175. "aesthetically, it looks like Star Wars. But that kid may suck."
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186. "he doesn't suck, but he mighr suck as Solo."
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I'm beginning to worry I'm gonna be watching every scene of these movie feeling like Laurence Laurentz:

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176. "I was hype after the Superbowl teaser. But now...eh..."
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The Superbowl teaser had just enough to get me hype - a couple iconic shots, and kept Alden as Solo hidden. But seeing and hearing him in the full trailer it just doesn't feel right.

I'm still there day one tho...

  

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177. "Feeling the same way as you except"
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I'll go to my press screening but that's about it.

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179. "Y'all were already committed to not be excited lol "
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So I'm not fully believing everyone but I'm all in for this. I'm buying him as Han. This looks great


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181. "o I'm excited. He seems wooden, but stylistically it looks beautiful"
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182. "Or maybe niggas are just not feeling it."
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Jesus Christ dude.

I'm happy you're excited, but you're going overboard with this shit.

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187. "Haha"
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183. "Naw, if I was excited I'd say it. "
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Even through the first half of the trailer I'm almost buying him as Han. First red flag was his delivery of the "Huh...what's that?" line. It sounded and looked really awkward. Seemed like a moment that should have been charismatic Han Solo and I didn't get that at all.

I could chalk it up to trailer editing, but the line at the end "I thought we were in trouble there for a second but it's fine...we're fine" just didn't feel like Solo at all. I'm guessing the dialogue was kind of a call back to A New Hope during the Princess Leia rescue when he said "we had a weapons malfunction but we're fine here...we're fine...how are you?" So my issue isn't with the line, but the delivery. The smile on his face doesn't feel like sarcastic Han Solo. The pitch of his voice. It just doesn't feel right.

Everything else about the trailer was really really good. But if I can't buy him as Solo, nothing else matters.

  

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184. "Hmm that line was the most confident one "
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Hes supposed to deliver that awkwardly, that's Han's classic insecure fake confidence thing. So sure unsure attitude. I thought that was well delivered.


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185. "Also"
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To be fair you have to let go out the whole Harrison Ford thing. He's not trying to do an impression and I think as fans we shouldn't want him to. IF they wanted that they wouldve went and hired that kid who does a great impression of Harrison but sucks at acting. This kid is doing his own version of Han and its as close of a comparison to Harrison as we should want from him. So far it doesnt seem out of character in dialogue or acting, its not Harrison..I can def agree on that. But it felt like Han to me.

It's like Hanks doing Ben Bradlee in The Post when Jason Robards owned that role in All The President's Men. I think once you let go of the actor who did the original role and just focus on the character traits and story itself then you can start to enjoy the movie. You guys gotta let go of the voice and look. I think thats where I've always been at with it. It looks like a great movie SO far. I find it hard to believe that after all that time waiting, finally seeing this material they can't finally say the overall movie looks promising compared to their first thoughts on this movie even at concept. I get being hesitant but this material they gave us so far has been great.

OH btw ummm more Bradford Young in Star Wars please!!!!! Shit is looking beautiful.




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180. "day 1 idc idc idc."
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188. "posts #3 & #32"
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178. "Teaser posters"
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https://instagram.com/p/Be0YaMLhYlF/

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189. "New trailer"
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https://youtu.be/jPEYpryMp2s

Looks pretty. That's all I got.

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190. "looks pretty...good"
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>https://youtu.be/jPEYpryMp2s
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>Looks pretty. That's all I got.

  

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191. "Only reason I would go see it in the theater is because its pretty."
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192. "this is the first time I'm not hyped about a Star Wars film"
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Not even a little bit.

  

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193. "I will see it since its Star Wars"
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I may not say that in 2 years depending on how this ends up.

Its a story we didn't really need. I'm not really interested in seeing Han's backstory. I can read books for that. After IX I hope they just stay away from all the old characters and create new stories. The new Rian Johnson trilogy sounds much more interesting if its its own thing which sounded like what they want. Don't care about a Yoda, Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, etc backstories and hope they don't do them but I'm sure they will...

  

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194. "I'm sure it's dependent on how this does"
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I predict that it will do well, but not do the usual Star Wars numbers. I would be really surprised if it did. Besides just being lackluster, I would just think that by the time it comes out people will still be going back to see Infinity War for the 3rd or 4th time (unless that is a surprising, devastating flop too).

Personally I hope this does just well enough to keep the blood pumping in the franchise, but not well enough to warrant more origin stories.

  

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195. "^^^^All of this."
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Like go mack said, I'm hyped for my nigga Rian's trilogy as it's gonna be different (rumored to explore the Outer Rim) and it'll make niggas mad (laughs).

However, Solo sounded like a bad idea from the jump. Taking away the only thing that had me interested (besides Bradford Young's photography) has me back in disinterested territory.

Add in the fact that the trailers are unspectacular and viola.

I don't want this to be bad, as I don't want to review a bad movie. Yet at the same time as BigWorm pointed out if this shit is too dope, then this shit is gonna run into the ground with more fan service stories with Jabba, Yoda, Boba Fett, Obi-Wan (which is already in motion).

I hate Simon Kinberg, but I'm glad he killed Josh Trank's Boba Fett movie. Not because I hate Trank, but because we'd be in the same situation we're in now.

Also, keep in mind that this is dropping during some heavy competition. Infinity War will still be going strong, Deadpool 2 drops the week before. Action Point and Ocean's 8 the weeks after.

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198. "I think a lot of the talk of "We dont need this story'"
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doesnt make sense because his backstory is not Canon anymore. All the stuff we knew of him is Legends/EU stuff. So YES its needed, you just prefer to not see it you would rather see new characters and new stories. Which is fine, that shit is understandable and I want that too. But why can't we have both? Why cant stories about characters we know and love come to fruition on the big screen while new stories within the same universe of new characters, worlds and adventures be told? Why is it one or the other. It's like you think just because Solo story is being told we are losing out on a moment for a new one to be told in its place. Nah. They clearly are setting up the future for more Star Wars to be told on the screen whether its in a 2 new trilogy's or all these tv series they plan on doing. Only thing I care they make sure happen is that the quality is the same throughout. Like they havent done with Marvel. Marvel's one big flaw is that the quality from the shows to the movies dont match and its something they are fixing with this new service apparently.

I think a lot of the arguments about this shit is just people not being upfront about what they really want or fear. Fuck we are old, i want more Star Wars and as much Star Wars stories as I can get before we die. I give zero fucks about the possibility that it ruins it past my life time LOL




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199. "I think a lot of the talk of "We dont need this story'"
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doesnt make sense because his backstory is not Canon anymore. All the stuff we knew of him is Legends/EU stuff. So YES its needed, you just prefer to not see it you would rather see new characters and new stories. Which is fine, that shit is understandable and I want that too. But why can't we have both? Why cant stories about characters we know and love come to fruition on the big screen while new stories within the same universe of new characters, worlds and adventures be told? Why is it one or the other. It's like you think just because Solo story is being told we are losing out on a moment for a new one to be told in its place. Nah. They clearly are setting up the future for more Star Wars to be told on the screen whether its in a 2 new trilogy's or all these tv series they plan on doing. Only thing I care they make sure happen is that the quality is the same throughout. Like they havent done with Marvel. Marvel's one big flaw is that the quality from the shows to the movies dont match and its something they are fixing with this new service apparently.

I think a lot of the arguments about this shit is just people not being upfront about what they really want or fear. Fuck we are old, i want more Star Wars and as much Star Wars stories as I can get before we die. I give zero fucks about the possibility that it ruins it past my life time LOL




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201. "Nigga I don't get why you can't understand why"
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niggas ain't hyped for this.

I stopped reading once you started talking about all that extended universe shit.

I've never read the books and never will. I will live and die with the movies and Rebels. I didn't even watch The Clone Wars cause the prequels we're shit.

I got enough of Han's history in the OG trilogy. The Kessel Run. Him trying to pay off Jaba. Him winning the Falcon from Lando. So yeah this is good enough. Also, I'm not old. You may be. I'm not.

Like I'm glad you're hyped for this shit (someone has to be), but at the end of the day, shit like this dilutes the brand. I'm getting a tad tired of Star Wars. These prequel spinoffs don't help.

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203. "Read his post. It’s good and he’s right. And he does want to see it ..."
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204. "Lol not sure why you getting angry at me "
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Don't do the hype up hype up with me, it doesn't work. I wasnt attacking you but if you took it that way that's more of a you problem than it is a me problem. I'm pretty much on the same page as you but I just what we both want go happen at the same time, I'm unsure why people who have that same argument as you need to have it one way or nothing. There's no logic to it. Read my reply fully and you will see you just jumped to conclusions towards my point. Shrugs
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207. "Nigga... LOLOLOL"
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I don't know why you thought that came across angry but whatever. I'm just tired of explaining why some niggas (me included) aren't hyped for this.

I read your post and still stand by what I said.

Sorry, but this movie isn't needed.

One of the things I love in the OG movie is Han charging at forward only to turn back and run away cause he's never done this shit before. Now because of this he infact has.

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208. "I'm saying though"
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I'm not excited about a Han Solo movie. I don't care about his backstory. He's a smuggler. He's a jerk. He was just out to make bank and fly away until Luke and Leia gave him a reason to fight for a bigger cause. OKAY. I'm good.

Personally the only interest I have in prequels is the idea that they *MIGHT* change the context of the original movie.

Sadly, that almost never happens. Instead, most prequels just expound on things that were just hinted at, casually mentioned or implied in the original movie. Like the Kessel Run, which I couldn't give any less of a shit about.

This is why I prefer new material.

I'd love the Solo movie to really drop a big surprise on us. Like maybe Solo had the potential to be a powerful Jedi, but he rejected it all because he wouldn't buy into the Lore. That would not only put his tone in A New Hope into context, but it would also go further to explain how Kylo Ren is so strong with the Force. But I seriously doubt they would do anything even remotely that interesting.


  

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210. "*daps*"
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Han doesn't need to be demystified.

Look, maybe I'm wrong and we'll learn some surprising things about Han. And I'll be the first to come back and say that and say the movie's dope.

But so far, little has made this interesting.

Last time we got something explaining shit, it was the prequel trilogy and look how that turned out.

Plus niggas in this post are not helping this movie's case.

I hope this not like the live-action Beauty and the Beast and more like the live-action Jungle Book. Neither one was needed. But one added a lot to the OG movie while the other one was a cash grab.

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214. "RE: Nigga I don't get why you can't understand why"
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>I got enough of Han's history in the OG trilogy. The Kessel
>Run. Him trying to pay off Jaba. Him winning the Falcon from
>Lando. So yeah this is good enough. Also, I'm not old. You
>may be. I'm not.

I'm old...and I "kinda" agree with you...

As a kid and young adult I LOVED all the shit alluded to in the OT that you mentioned regarding backstory that was just mentioned in passing. That shit was awesome and made a large universe, seem even larger to me as a kid.

As an adult, and having the Internet and more content providers (netflix, cable, hulu, amazon, etc) you can't add a line of dialogue like "completed the kessel run in 12 parsecs" into a show or movie without fanboys clamoring for more info on it. We're spoiled by the ability for other avenues that allow studios to explore backstories and that has pretty much become the standard and we all have come to expect if something is relatively successful a prequel or sequel will follow whether there's really enough material there or not.

All that said...I'm interested in the Solo movie, because as a kid we would go years in between new SW content (movies) and I'm just happy to see content set in that universe being explored more than every 2 or 3 years. Would the movie be better if they came out every 2 or 3 years? maybe. But I'm just happy to have something to watch and judge for myself.

  

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215. "*daps*"
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Your explanation is on why you want to see it is perfect.

I can understand that.

And to your points on why backstory has to be explained, your right. Fanboy culture is huge right now and I think a big part of that is that TV is in its golden age right now. We get show explaining every facet of events that occur over the course of years, it's kinda bled over into movies (this and Marvel being prime examples).

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216. "RE: *daps*"
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>And to your points on why backstory has to be explained, your
>right. Fanboy culture is huge right now and I think a big part
>of that is that TV is in its golden age right now. We get show
>explaining every facet of events that occur over the course of
>years, it's kinda bled over into movies (this and Marvel being
>prime examples).

Exactly. If we didn't have all these backstorys being told these days I think it would let everyone's imaginations run even wilder instead of people not sweating what the backstorys are because they know they're gonna get it in a year or two.

We're right on the same too as to your other post. I never got into the EU stuff that dropped prior to TFA. I think i read one book and maybe a couple comics that were given to me by a friend to check out but I never really thought any of that was canon nor ever would be.

And I'm SOOOO glad I didn't because now that everything is canon, I would have wasted years of my life reading that shit, and thousands of dollars on books I imagine, all for it to be thrown out the window.

Now...since TFA I have started copping all the marvel comics, still haven't got into the novels though, but it is a little more interesting to me now that it is all considered cannon and characters and events from from them may show up in TV/movies in the future. I've been digging the Vader and SW comics, but I'm about to stop reading all the others I think. A little too much info I don't really need.

  

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217. "*double daps*"
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Co-sign everything you said.

I heard the comics are excellent, but there's only so much time.

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219. "Nostalgia trips are bad because its why Last Jedi was hated imho"
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Lucas and now Disney had been serving up variations of the same meal for forty years so any change in recipe is gonna have niggas flipping out even if its for the best because Star Wars movies are basically comfort food. Which is ironic considering the non movie properties (books/clone wars) sold to the hardcore actually do well to push the paradigm forward...but its also telling how far removed they are from the source material (how easy they got made non-canon with a swipe of the hand, how those stories that now are cannon are effectively separate character development wise).

But in the movies the fans have the expectation if its not Skywalkers and friends doing awesome swasbuckling shit = the worst movie ever, lol. They’ve trained them to expect the same character beats, same character archtypes, same general plotting, same very specific corner of a vast universe. If solo successfully scratches that nostalgia itch while being a clearly inferior movie (personally I think they gonna pull it off tho) expect your Solo>TLJ rants at ya local social media hub because it gave them the same greasy Mcdonald’s burger they are used to where my nigga Rian tried to actually add some seasoning.

Its a new age; Five Guys, Shake Shack, In and Out. I don’t expect a steak house burger but our tastes should have evolved. IComic book movies are successfully mining higher character, ethical and life themes in a family friendly format with unusual character beats and genre/script ideas you wouldn’t expect from niggas in tights, time for starwars to do the same

Like it was said above, its odd that we need to fill in the blanks particularly when the non-movie mediums plainly do a better job along with pushing the paradigm forward. We don’t need to see Sauron going up the young demon ranks pre Hobbit, Morpheus learning kung fu, etc

  

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221. "*hard daps*"
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Everything you said is on point.

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196. "I'm on board. The first teaser trailer was meh because I couldn't buy"
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Alden as Han Solo. After seeing this full trailer, the jury is still out on Alden as Solo...BUT I didn't cringe seeing him like I did in the teaser. More importantly - after getting a bit more on what the movie looks like, I don't think it's success hinges as much on Alden as I originally thought. This looks like a full ensemble fun heist film which happens to be set in the SW universe and happens to have Solo in it.

And that is the direction I hop they start going in these one off SW Story films - ensemble driven, genre movies that happen to be set in the SW universe. It worked for Rogue One. Looks like there's elements of that in Solo. I just want less of a connection to beloved characters so we aren't getting origin stories left and right.

  

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197. "Alden's line readings are the only thing that has me concerned"
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The vocal fry combined with the lack of any emotion in an attempt to be cool isn't working in these trailers

  

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200. "*shrugs* OK."
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I mean, it doesn't look bad at all, but this trailer keeps me thinking: Perhaps SW needs that 35 year gap to make the films that much better.

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202. "I'm actually interested in seeing it now."
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While I've seen all of the Star Wars movies and enjoyed most of them, even parts of the prequels, I don't consider myself a ride or die fan. So, I didn't think I wanted a Han backstory movie but the more I see of the movie, granted these are trailers, the more I'm interested in seeing this.

The humor worked well enough and it's interesting to me to see a story involving the original characters which isn't epic and dealing with the fate of the galaxy.

Granted, I'm not expecting much from this. As long as it's semi-funny and exciting, I'll be okay.

Like someone else said, Bradford Young did his thing. If nothing else, it'll be gorgeous.

But if this is a success does anyone think Lucasfilm will change their standards for choosing directors? Maybe since this would have been the second standalone movie to undergo major changes in post-production that they'll actually admit that they don't want the basic template messed with.

It's interesting that they hired up-and-coming directors for Rogue One and Solo and then brought in experienced filmmakers in Gilroy and Howard to bring the movies home. It's like they can't decide if they want to go the Marvel route and just ask the directors to make movies the Lucasfilm way or go the DC/WB way and allow the directors to use their style to influence the universe.

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209. "I'm good...dont need this...didnt need Rogue One either, but..ehh.."
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222. "looks good to me. i'm there day 1. #hardshrug"
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205. "I hope it makes a shit ton of money and makes people mad"
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And I hope they continue to do these stand-alone Star Wars stories along with the new trilogies by Rian Johnson, Benioff & Weiss, and whoever else that they sign up.

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212. "I would like more adventure movies than character-driven ones"
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Rogue One's premise > "SOLO"

in my opinion at least

but I understand why they're doing it this way, these are still wildly popular characters.

They're making these stories up, it's not like they're wed to some kind of source material because they're basically writing the source material from scratch. So take risks. Do a feel-good movie about the engineers who built Cloud City - you can still hit Lando in there, or do a Talladega Nights version of a pod race movie (the pod race is the only watchable part of PM to me.) Just get weird - you're writing these origins on the spot and people are going to see these movies no matter what.

That being said, I'll still gladly go see this Han Solo movie night 1.

  

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213. "And I agree that those would both be excellent ideas for films"
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I'm just saying that they can (and will) do all three types. Disney is in this for the long haul, and I'm sure that they absolutely see the Star Wars franchise as a money-printing machine a la the Marvel movies, so these aren't going away.

So we'll get the universe expansion with the Johnson and B&W. There'll be the origin stories, because characters like Obi-Wan and Boba Fett are still very popular and have following. And we'll get some different type of stand-alone stuff too. After Rogue One was such a hit, Disney said they wanted to bring back Felicity Jones for more movies, and they've gotten the origin stuff her out of the way. No reason they can't and won't do more adventurous stuff with the franchise.

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THIS IS THE ONLY STAR WARS SPINOFF I WANT TO SEE EVER

THERE IS A GODDAMN GRIFT GOING ON BEHIND TWO FUCKING DEATH STARS


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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226. "We saw Yoda like two days of his life, let's get the rest of them huh?"
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220. "look, man, nobody here is going to be mad if it does well"
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Maybe trolls and salty teenagers, but that's about it.

I've been watching Star Wars movies since I've been old enough to actually watch and understand movies. I don't *want* a Star Wars movie to be bad. NOBODY wants a bad Star Wars movie. I'd like to think that Disney and Lucasfilm took a good hard look at why and how the prequels didn't work so well, and are being careful not to repeat those mistakes.

I'm not terribly interested in these origin movies, but I'm still going to see this one. I want to enjoy it. I hope I leave the theater thinking, "DAYUM. Who knew Ron Hoard had a movie like THIS in him?!?" And then maybe I'll be a little more on board for a Bobba Fett/Obi-Wan/Jabba origin movie. Hell, they could even be planning to make a movie all about the Jawas, for all I know.

I'm just not sure about it cause it didn't look like a good idea on paper, less so after all the news, and even less so after the first couple of trailers.


  

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223. "BUT WHY ARE YOU NOT EXCITED TO SEE IT?!"
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IT'S STAR WARS SO YOU SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE HYPED TO SEE THIS DESPITE HAVING A VALID OPINIONS ON WHY IT GIVES YOU PAUSE.



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224. "For someone who's not hyped for this movie..."
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...you sure spend a lot of time telling people how not hyped you are. As opposed to, say, looking at the trailer, thinking, "Nah, doesn't look interesting to me" and moving on. I don't generally make a dozen responses regarding a film I'm not hyped about seeing.

So considering how not hyped and clearly not mad you are about this film, I imagine the logical response would be to not make a deluge of points telling people how you think "Solo" doesn't look good.

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225. "So PTP is only for movies we're excited about? Since when?"
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I liked The Last Jedi. Quite a bit. So did bwood actually. But A LOT of people didn't. Mufuckas hated it so much that they started a petition to have it not counted as a real Star Wars movie. Fuck is that even about?

But now if we--actual Star Wars fans--try to have a dialogue about our lack of excitement for and apprehension toward the new movie--a movie we're still planning to go see--everyone's coming at us like we were talking shit about Carrie Fisher?

Just let us voice our lack of hype, man. You do you. I get it; I'm hyped as hell for Infinity War, just like you are for this. And don't worry, if we are wrong about Solo, bwood will quite literally be the first person to come here and post about it and let us know that the shit is fire.

  

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227. "Word. Niggas are funny here."
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There's cats in The Meg post who say it looks like trash and are not interested. I'm not going to go in there and say there wrong. In fact, if they want to continue posting, I hope they do.

Besides Heniz, most there's some nice dialogue up above with Jthoal and BigReg. I want to have a discourse like that.

Who knew a Han Solo movie would be treated like the fucking Bible.

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228. "You've said "I'm not hyped" about a dozen times in here."
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You've posted it after every news leak, every preview that gets released, and even some of the times other people say they're hyped.

It's clear you're not hyped. One response works. Many responses suggest you're either really invested in letting people know you're not hyped or you're mad.

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229. "if they bother you so much, feel free to not read my posts"
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Have I posted about it a dozen times? I guess I'm not keeping track. But you seem to be. Thanks?

Hopefully with the next big movie, I'll post enthusiastically about it multiple times? Be sure to keep an eye on it, okay?

  

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230. "Oh the irony"
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231. "Lol "
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IG @h_n_z

  

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232. ""Crew" TV Spot (:45)"
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https://youtu.be/KUXd7p_vd3w


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233. "“Risk” TV Spot "
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https://youtu.be/RGGyTO-VlUs


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234. "Lando is so on point."
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235. "Tracking to open at $170M on that long weekend "
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I say it ends up doing $200M. Regardless I still don't think it tanks like so many of you been so sure of.

http://deadline.com/2018/05/solo-a-star-wars-story-box-office-projection-1202381856/

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236. "I don't know how they could forecast that so early"
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And if it's good, people will find out, see it, and it will cake

  

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240. "They forecast based on the presale tickets and screen numbers. "
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The tracking gets more accurate as it gets closer to opening weekend obviously. Once the press premiers and initial reviews come in we'll have a very good idea of how well it will do.

  

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237. "Have people been saying they think it will tank?"
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I've just seen people saying they aren't hype for it like they were for previous SW releases, but they'll still be there opening weekend.

For me, the first full trailer got me on board. Before that I was "eh", but this looks like it will be a fun adventure and I think it will do numbers.

  

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239. "All those articles saying Disney thinks it's going to be"
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Their lowest grossing movie and then people regurgitating it to everyone else



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238. "Literally no one said it would tank."
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Y'all are doing extra shit with this Han Solo movie.

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