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"Suicide Squad (David Ayer, 2016)"


          

I know we have an overarching DC post, but this should be the one for SS (unless there is another I missed).

By now we've all seen Jared Leto's Joker: http://www.clattoverata.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Jared-Leto-Joker.jpg

But now there is the first official look at the whole squad: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/KingPatel/news/?a=120032

Better idea/look at Deadshot: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=120036

I don't like that Tom Hardy dropped out, but am not surprised.

This could be a sleeper comic book hit next year, among the heavy hitters (Batman v. Superman, Captain America: Civil War).

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RE: Suicide Squad (David Ayer, 2016)
May 03rd 2015
1
^^^^
May 04th 2015
3
I heard a great explanation on the Geekbox podcast.
May 04th 2015
2
i'm hype for this...and m.robbie looks incredibly hot with that outfit
May 04th 2015
4
Nothing about this interests me. :(
May 06th 2015
5
lol, y'all aren't interested in a movie over a pic?
May 06th 2015
6
In fairness, I wasn't interested to begin with...
May 06th 2015
7
yep.
May 06th 2015
8
hating on dc is the cool thing to do...no matter what they do
May 06th 2015
9
The "DC hate" has to do with who they put in charge of their universe.
May 06th 2015
11
      marvel has more stinkers than dc
May 06th 2015
12
           You threw in a lot of non Marvel-Disney flicks bro.
May 06th 2015
13
           If you think Snyder's only bad movie is Sucker Punch...
May 07th 2015
15
I'm more interested in this than in BvS, because of the filmmaker.
May 06th 2015
10
      Well played.
May 06th 2015
14
      cool. when I read Ayer was attached I was hype cause
May 07th 2015
16
           And I totally get that, sincerely.
May 07th 2015
17
Comic Con trailer while it lasts...
Jul 11th 2015
18
leto joker is gonna be fun.
Jul 12th 2015
19
Actual for real Comic Con trailer
Jul 13th 2015
20
I thought it looked fantastic.
Jul 13th 2015
21
dc back in the game. love the darker tone to these flicks.
Jul 13th 2015
22
This got me more jazzed than the BvS trailer, tbh.
Jul 13th 2015
23
Ditto
Jul 14th 2015
30
yeah.
Jul 14th 2015
31
This and Deadpool were better IMO... That said... This was still cool.
Jul 14th 2015
32
Its basically the Ultron trailer with DC characters in it....
Jul 14th 2015
29
i'm not a comic book guy, but DC is obviously building towards...
Jul 13th 2015
24
November 17th, 2017
Jul 13th 2015
25
      so they are just gonna pretend Aquaman doesn't exist?
Jul 13th 2015
26
           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics%27_shared_universe_films
Jul 13th 2015
27
                'preciate that.
Jul 13th 2015
28
i've been clowning, but that trailer sold me. i fux w/ this heavy.
Jul 14th 2015
33
Saw a good portion of it and NNNIIIIGGGGGGAAAAA!!!!!!!
Dec 29th 2015
34
I need to know how Joker and Deadshot work out
Dec 29th 2015
35
Very, very well. Very unique portrayls as well. nm
Dec 29th 2015
36
      Does Leto give Ledger a run?
Dec 29th 2015
37
           His version is much more unhinged.
Dec 29th 2015
38
bwood, you always get me even more hyped for movies I want to see.
Dec 30th 2015
39
New Trailer
Jan 19th 2016
40
This could be fun
Jan 19th 2016
41
Yep. SO MANY CHARACTERS!
Jan 20th 2016
42
A DC movie with a sense of humor?
Jan 20th 2016
43
yeah the song selection really made me smile.
Jan 20th 2016
44
yeah this looks good
Jan 20th 2016
45
in. looks dope.
Jan 20th 2016
46
Queen makes almost anything better
Jan 21st 2016
47
Suicide Squad to be more fun *swipe*
Mar 31st 2016
48
So Suicide Squad will still be a mess
Mar 31st 2016
49
Everything you've said is what I've told them from day one.
Mar 31st 2016
50
      figures...
Mar 31st 2016
52
      I don't get the Zack Snyder love
Apr 02nd 2016
53
           In his defense he's got fantastic visuals plus what he did with 300
Apr 04th 2016
55
                Do not have this nigga do noir
Apr 04th 2016
56
ok maybe I was wrong for hoping for a comic book Harsh times/End of Watc...
Mar 31st 2016
51
"I got a bad feeling about this" (c) Leia
Apr 04th 2016
54
Suicide Squad Official Trailer #2
Apr 10th 2016
57
that looks like a movie that doesn't suck
Apr 11th 2016
58
All the trailers/promo for this so far have looked fantastic.
Apr 11th 2016
59
looks like it'll be a fun watch
Apr 11th 2016
60
Seeing this shit tonight. Embargo up at noon EST.
Aug 02nd 2016
61
Reviews are mixed to negative. Most are ROUGH...
Aug 02nd 2016
62
      it is getting hammered
Aug 02nd 2016
64
      Yea, but is it bwood good?
Aug 02nd 2016
68
           I find out in less than 3 hours.
Aug 02nd 2016
69
Friend of a friend worked on it. Said it was a shitshow.
Aug 02nd 2016
63
Man I really want this to be good, Please be good!
Aug 02nd 2016
65
My buddy (who I see eye to eye with 98% of the time) gave it a B+
Aug 02nd 2016
66
Any other DC flicks to watch OR comic books to read before seeing this?
Aug 02nd 2016
67
TBH, I'm surprised 2 dumbasses haven't cried
Aug 02nd 2016
70
damn this joint is getting BvS clubbed doggs
Aug 02nd 2016
71
There's really good things in a pile of shit. Full review soon.
Aug 02nd 2016
72
damn Ayer failed us too?
Aug 02nd 2016
73
just because it is a pile of shit doesnt mean it will be a box office du...
Aug 03rd 2016
76
      What everyone fails to realize is that these movies
Aug 03rd 2016
77
      Holy shit. That number is insane. 900milly. Fuck
Aug 03rd 2016
79
      Sure didn't.
Aug 03rd 2016
82
      D/p
Aug 03rd 2016
80
      Could you break that down or point to a read that breaks that down?
Aug 04th 2016
100
      Reviews are def impacting the B.O. of these movies
Aug 03rd 2016
78
           BvS grossed $874 worldwide
Aug 03rd 2016
83
                RE:
Aug 03rd 2016
94
Wait. what happend? in reply 34 you were amped
Aug 02nd 2016
74
This shit reeks of studio inteference.
Aug 02nd 2016
75
      It's wild that in 2016, studios think it's a good idea to take ppl's vis...
Aug 03rd 2016
81
      Studios out here trying to get this money
Aug 04th 2016
99
      fuck...........
Aug 03rd 2016
88
      LOL.I guess its time to wait for the 'ultimate cut'
Aug 03rd 2016
93
damn
Aug 03rd 2016
84
Full review.
Aug 03rd 2016
85
      Shit. Tell 'em how you really feel, hah.
Aug 03rd 2016
87
      wow
Aug 03rd 2016
89
Secret 'Suicide Squad' Drama
Aug 03rd 2016
86
Hollywood is a scary, cutthroat place.
Aug 03rd 2016
90
they let the company that cut the teaser edit the final movie cut lmao
Aug 05th 2016
109
Deadshot, Amanda Waller, Harley, and El Diablo barely save this
Aug 03rd 2016
91
This your biannual reminder: WB is run by a CEO with no knowledge of mov...
Aug 03rd 2016
92
All you Marvel dick riders go post in another thread.
Aug 03rd 2016
95
And there it is.
Aug 03rd 2016
96
You know he's joking, right?
Aug 04th 2016
103
Wow.....
Aug 03rd 2016
97
</sarcasm>
Aug 03rd 2016
98
      he had me going until I saw green lantern
Aug 04th 2016
101
Love this.
Aug 04th 2016
102
A few really good performances stuck in an absolute mess of a movie.
Aug 05th 2016
104
Will & Margot carried this shit
Aug 05th 2016
105
so I'm not going to see it then. But are they doomed?
Aug 05th 2016
106
Im hoping there's great directors cut a la Kingdom of heaven
Aug 05th 2016
110
BvS is MILES better than this
Aug 06th 2016
115
This video is better than the movie itself.
Aug 05th 2016
107
Turns Out, Zack Snyder Directed A Scene In SUICIDE SQUAD
Aug 05th 2016
108
140+ projected. 3rd biggest 2016 opening. biggest august opening ever.
Aug 05th 2016
111
I love how niggas say critic proof
Aug 05th 2016
112
well, critic proof may be accurate
Aug 07th 2016
126
      LOL that's the exact opposite of critic proof.
Aug 07th 2016
127
Great marketing is definitely critic-proof. Their marketing KILLED it.
Aug 05th 2016
113
      yup. WB marketing dept = the real MVP.
Aug 06th 2016
114
‘Suicide Squad’ Dropped by Mexico’s Largest Movie Chain Amid Distr...
Aug 06th 2016
116
Entertained but a BAD movie. Needed lower stakes.
Aug 06th 2016
117
On the count of three, Slip, me & you are gonna make a break for it
Aug 06th 2016
118
RUMOR: List Of Potential Deleted ‘Suicide Squad’ Scenes
Aug 06th 2016
119
Doubt any of those would've fixed the key problems.
Aug 06th 2016
120
      It would've worked had they take out all the studio mandated
Aug 06th 2016
121
           The studio didn't mandate Pimp Gangster Joker tho.
Aug 07th 2016
123
                I must be the only one who wasn't bothered by him
Aug 07th 2016
124
                I'd be interested in reading an early SS draft.
Aug 07th 2016
129
                     We both agree on most of these issues
Aug 07th 2016
130
                Traditional Joker IS Pimp Gangster Joker, though.
Aug 07th 2016
125
                     I think it's the most boring Joker choice possible in 2016.
Aug 07th 2016
128
                          Leto commenting on cut scenes
Aug 07th 2016
131
                               this affirms my belief that most actors are just dumb as shit
Aug 07th 2016
134
                                    Leto is, literally, the worst.
Aug 07th 2016
135
Will Smith saved the fuck out of this movie, he deserved better
Aug 06th 2016
122
Shit was tight. I'd definitely watch again.
Aug 07th 2016
132
c'mon man.
Aug 07th 2016
136
      i know right
Aug 07th 2016
137
      I appreciate people with shitty taste who review movies here
Aug 10th 2016
153
      Fam, I don't know what your expectation was.
Aug 26th 2016
234
Shit was tight. I'd definitely watch again.
Aug 07th 2016
133
Flawed but pretty enjoyable.
Aug 08th 2016
138
RE: Flawed but pretty enjoyable.
Aug 08th 2016
139
      RE: Flawed but pretty enjoyable.
Aug 08th 2016
140
           All of those villains had clear motivations and plans tho.
Aug 08th 2016
141
                RE: All of those villains had clear motivations and plans tho.
Aug 08th 2016
142
                     Smoke Monster is close, but that's more of a weapon than a character.
Aug 08th 2016
145
Killa Croc and Viola Davis saved the movie. Fuckin White People
Aug 08th 2016
143
I walked out
Aug 08th 2016
144
I really liked Sabotage. I should've been the target audience!!
Aug 08th 2016
146
      I should have loved Sabotage
Aug 08th 2016
147
      No, you're not. Loved that flick.
Aug 09th 2016
149
Why did this movie get made now...in 2016?
Aug 09th 2016
148
there's this false notion that Superman can't be done on film.
Aug 09th 2016
150
I enjoyed it just fine
Aug 09th 2016
151
the first ten minutes I knew what I was in for so I enjoyed it
Aug 09th 2016
152
Not surprised by anything written here.
Aug 10th 2016
154
Lol
Aug 10th 2016
155
week 2 BO looking stellar.
Aug 10th 2016
156
Although the team itself was largely unknown, Suicide Squad
Aug 13th 2016
160
Down 67%; 2nd biggest drop of recent superhero flicks
Aug 14th 2016
161
week 2 BO looking awful. 67% decline is stellar cause fuck this movie.
Aug 14th 2016
162
http://i.imgur.com/anVeCSl.jpg
Aug 14th 2016
163
222.8 million in 10 days is a win
Aug 14th 2016
164
      Very doubtful
Aug 14th 2016
165
      not betting, but i think $650+
Aug 15th 2016
167
      found this article (and its comments section) to be an interesting read:
Aug 15th 2016
170
           It's also an impossible thing for anyone to quantify.
Aug 15th 2016
174
                THE REAL FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THIS MOVIE
Aug 15th 2016
177
                Eventually, that's gonna backfire though.
Aug 15th 2016
178
      $575.4 as of now, with two more international dates left
Aug 23rd 2016
215
      right on.
Sep 29th 2016
247
Guys, that was fucking terrible
Aug 11th 2016
157
I'm appalled that people want to make excuses for how bad it was
Aug 15th 2016
169
      Right? Like you said below...
Aug 15th 2016
171
I really enjoyed it. Had a great time at the movies.
Aug 11th 2016
158
I enjoyed it. I can tell they Frankenstein'd the cut tho. Need that ext...
Aug 13th 2016
159
I enjoyed for the actors performances, but it IS a bad movie
Aug 14th 2016
166
it's bad.
Aug 15th 2016
168
Yo
Aug 15th 2016
172
I was getting progressively aggravated as the movie went.
Aug 15th 2016
173
Dear 'Suicide Squad' Fans: You Deserved A Better Movie
Aug 15th 2016
175
Anytime anyone makes an ALMOST FAMOUS reference....
Aug 15th 2016
176
I'm going to try and forget that I saw that shit.
Aug 15th 2016
179
every time I think about it I get mad about something different
Aug 15th 2016
180
      I've been waiting for someone to tell me exactly...
Aug 16th 2016
181
           !!? i thought i just didnt pay attention hard enough but...
Aug 16th 2016
182
           never explained at all, it just was.
Aug 16th 2016
183
           It was a magic machine that would destroy earth's weapons and
Aug 17th 2016
184
                AoU was a subpar flick to me
Aug 17th 2016
185
                Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
Aug 17th 2016
187
                     I thought the hand part of enchantress reveal was dope
Aug 17th 2016
190
                Did they ever state that explicitly?
Aug 17th 2016
186
                     Some of it probably was cut...it was supposed to open
Aug 17th 2016
188
                     So to answer Longo's question, no it wasn't.
Aug 17th 2016
191
                     i haven't seen the movie. Did this cut not hint at Darkseid?
Aug 17th 2016
189
                     Oh man, if it was *supposed* to be that, it didn't come across at all.
Aug 20th 2016
200
                     but that was our *MAIN* *SATELLITE!* (c)
Aug 24th 2016
224
5 hundo.
Aug 18th 2016
192
This is going unanswered
Aug 20th 2016
194
      I answered it with replies #113 and #174.
Aug 20th 2016
201
           Oh the "terrifying" post
Aug 20th 2016
210
finally watched it. and it's safe to say film criticism is dead.
Aug 20th 2016
193
I've never seen anyone say the things you're claiming.
Aug 20th 2016
195
also, lol @ your takeaway being "katana was smoking hot"
Aug 20th 2016
196
No lie... everytime I saw Katana in this movie...
Aug 20th 2016
197
      her crying over the sword was sooo baaadd
Aug 20th 2016
198
Could you cite reviews that make these complaints, just out of curiosity...
Aug 20th 2016
202
      I've definitely seen the Harley/sexism criticism in a couple places.
Aug 20th 2016
203
      he didn't say harley/sexism.
Aug 20th 2016
204
      I left out the sexism charge intentionally. I've seen that.
Aug 20th 2016
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           Alot of those complaints were made in this video
Aug 20th 2016
206
                are they towards the end? I'm 3 minutes in and I haven't heard one
Aug 20th 2016
207
                     Yes it was the SJW part
Aug 20th 2016
208
                          he said that
Aug 20th 2016
209
                          Correction
Aug 22nd 2016
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      RE: Could you cite reviews that make these complaints, just out of curio...
Aug 21st 2016
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           ok so you blatantly made up "batman raped harley quinn"
Aug 22nd 2016
213
                lol the title of the article blatantly says
Aug 23rd 2016
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                     Hey remember when you said I was wrong about the reshoots?
Aug 23rd 2016
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                     i'm actually not even thinking about you boy.
Aug 23rd 2016
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                          "Son, they shook..."
Aug 23rd 2016
219
                               Hellyeah doesnt seem to be shook..at all lol
Aug 23rd 2016
220
                                    He is.
Aug 23rd 2016
222
                     yeah, like you just admitted with your quotes, you made that shit up
Aug 23rd 2016
221
I'm glad the people who wave the flag for this and
Aug 20th 2016
199
BvS was garbage
Aug 20th 2016
211
I thought captain boomerang needed more boomerangs
Aug 23rd 2016
223
it was so good to see her with a role she could dig into
Aug 24th 2016
225
I told y'all this would pull in $650 million
Aug 24th 2016
226
It's only at $580 worldwide
Aug 25th 2016
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      i know
Aug 25th 2016
228
           I know what I said
Aug 25th 2016
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                it hasn't been updated
Aug 25th 2016
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                     I think y'all are overestimating on Japan
Aug 26th 2016
231
                          $3.6 million opening week in Japan
Sep 14th 2016
244
                          $13.91 million so far in Japan
Sep 28th 2016
246
                               Are you gonna admit you're being a hoe about this shit?
Sep 29th 2016
248
                                    um...i was right several times, and you were wrong
Sep 29th 2016
250
                                         Dawg your the one acting like a child
Sep 30th 2016
251
                                              Nah fam. It's fair game.
Sep 30th 2016
253
Apparently they cut out a lot of Leto's scenes
Aug 26th 2016
232
Apparently they didn't cut out enough of Kinnaman's scenes
Aug 26th 2016
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It's now made $636 million. Told y'all
Aug 29th 2016
235
this having legs like this is strange to me
Aug 30th 2016
236
      because word of mouth isn't as bad as some are making it out to be
Aug 31st 2016
237
           the re-editing works. it makes the movie watchable
Aug 31st 2016
238
bwood needs to accepts his L
Sep 05th 2016
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RE: bwood needs to accepts his L
Sep 05th 2016
240
      175 millions + around 100 for marketing
Sep 05th 2016
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Officially at $700 Million worldwide
Sep 12th 2016
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https://youtu.be/eUDcTLaWJuo
Sep 12th 2016
243
it has a shot to reach 750 millions. holy shit
Sep 14th 2016
245
nice. for all it's many, many flaws it's still a fun watch.
Sep 29th 2016
249
      yep. and maybe funnier than that power rangers fight in your avi
Sep 30th 2016
252
      when you say 'fun' do you mean in a so-bad-its-fun way?
Dec 15th 2016
262
Watched extended version
Nov 26th 2016
254
^^
Nov 27th 2016
255
i also watched the extended version
Nov 28th 2016
256
A very correct Honest Trailer
Dec 06th 2016
257
Best Line: "Jai Courtney of all people!"
Dec 06th 2016
258
the comparison of Leto's Joker...
Dec 07th 2016
260
still haven't seen it
Dec 06th 2016
259
Heath Lesser had me rolling
Dec 07th 2016
261
Watched the Extended Edition... Some old and new thoughts...
Jan 03rd 2017
263
It was awful
Jul 16th 2017
264

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1. "RE: Suicide Squad (David Ayer, 2016)"
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That group photo makes me even less interested.

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2. "I heard a great explanation on the Geekbox podcast."
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I still couldn't pick most of them out of that lineup, though.

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4. "i'm hype for this...and m.robbie looks incredibly hot with that outfit"
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5. "Nothing about this interests me. :("
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Hopefully it's better than it looks.

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6. "lol, y'all aren't interested in a movie over a pic?"
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7. "In fairness, I wasn't interested to begin with..."
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but that group photo looks fucking horrendous.

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9. "hating on dc is the cool thing to do...no matter what they do"
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they'll get a ridiculous amount of criticism regardless..because yeah, you know, marvel.

  

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11. "The "DC hate" has to do with who they put in charge of their universe."
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If Nolan was doing all of these films, you wouldn't hear nearly the amount of negative buzz. They are way more people who dislike Snyder than Nolan. Mostly because, you know, he's a far worse filmmaker.

Ayer was a good and interesting choice. MacLaren was a GREAT choice, until they gave her the boot for stupid reasons.

Fans of Marvel movies would prefer DC movies be good, because we love superheroes. I grew up with Batman and Superman. My general dread of BvS has to do with Snyder, not with some "blind DC hate."

But that's the hip thing for people who think the Marvel movies are "too jokey" to say, to point to some strange anti-DC conspiracy, as if superhero fans are rooting for superhero movies to suck.

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12. "marvel has more stinkers than dc"
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iron man 2, both hulk movies, daredevil the movie, blade trinity, thor dark world, ghost rider, x3, wolverine origins, the first captain america movie was MAD average and avengers was mediocre as hell after multiple views.

yet after all these fails they don't a fraction of the hate dc gets.

and last i checked snyder's only BAD movie was sucker punch.

what are we even talking about here?

  

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13. "You threw in a lot of non Marvel-Disney flicks bro. "
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15. "If you think Snyder's only bad movie is Sucker Punch..."
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... which you compliment by calling merely "bad," then we just won't see eye to eye, probably.

But yeah, as TRBO pointed out, you mostly named non-MCU films. I think THOR: TDW isn't bad at all (better than Man of Steel imo)-- the only bad MCU film is The Incredible Hulk. Even Iron Man 2, which is a mess, is still a fun mess with some good sequences and one-liners. And with the exception of the film's ending, I think the first Cap is damn good.

Also, if you were ranking DC property films next to Marvel films, Green Lantern would easily be the worst, Green Hornet would also be worse than the worst MCU property, Catwoman, Jonah Hex, etc. But hey, those were pre-DCU films, so I won't hold them against the current trajectory... but the current trajectory is all Snyder vision. Not ideal.

So, like I said, probably won't see eye to eye on this. I'm just explaining why people are DC skeptics-- they don't trust Snyder. Period. If it was Nolan directing all these films, waaaaaay more people would be geeked.

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10. "I'm more interested in this than in BvS, because of the filmmaker."
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I find David Ayer doing a comic book movie a far more intriguing prospect than Snyder.

The only person whose photo I DON'T like is Leto, just because the tattoos are absurdly obvious. I'm concerned about SS due to the overwhelming amount of characters, but hey, Ayer has done okay with ensembles in the past.

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14. "Well played."
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I trust Ayer and the cast they assembled for this.

Hoping they do the comic justice, b/c the source material is pretty cool

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16. "cool. when I read Ayer was attached I was hype cause"
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I fux with End of Watch and Fury, tough

I feel you about Synder above, but I'm also on the complete other end of the spectrum with your MoS critiques, and nah Thor ain't better. Which means I still will wait to actually see Batty v Supes before calling it shit

  

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17. "And I totally get that, sincerely."
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>I feel you about Synder above, but I'm also on the complete
>other end of the spectrum with your MoS critiques, and nah
>Thor ain't better. Which means I still will wait to actually
>see Batty v Supes before calling it shit

It's just the big reason people are pessimistic about DC movies-- that and, you know, their entire non-Nolan product of the last nearly 25 years, but I'm giving them a pass on that. It's mostly just Snyder.

Some may point to anti-Nolan posts here as proof of an anti-DC agenda, forgetting that the people who dislike Nolan are by FAR the minority in the geek kingdom, whereas Snyder doesn't remotely inspire the same confidence among the masses. I'm not in love with Nolan, as people probably remember, but I'd murder a slew of puppies to get him in the director's chair for BvS over Snyder, lol. As would many, I imagine.

And it's also worth pointing out once again how anyone skeptical over Snyder's director is PRAYING to be wrong and for this movie to be great. It benefits absolutely no one for this movie to be expensive and bad.

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18. "Comic Con trailer while it lasts..."
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19. "leto joker is gonna be fun."
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20. "Actual for real Comic Con trailer"
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http://io9.com/watch-the-official-suicide-squad-footage-that-was-at-co-1717558511

This looks . . . good? Actually, better than that. I kinda really want in now.

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21. "I thought it looked fantastic."
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DC bringing the goods so far.

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22. "dc back in the game. love the darker tone to these flicks."
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23. "This got me more jazzed than the BvS trailer, tbh."
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But then again, I like Ayer waaaaay more than I like Snyder, so it isn't really that surprising that this was my reaction.

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30. "Ditto"
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>But then again, I like Ayer waaaaay more than I like Snyder,
>so it isn't really that surprising that this was my reaction.

Ditto

>Robbie was born to play Harley Quinn.

Yup

It even made Jai look tolerable for once

  

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31. "yeah."
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>But then again, I like Ayer waaaaay more than I like Snyder,

good trailer. I'm interested now.

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32. "This and Deadpool were better IMO... That said... This was still cool."
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n/m

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29. "Its basically the Ultron trailer with DC characters in it...."
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I'm still on the fence.

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24. "i'm not a comic book guy, but DC is obviously building towards..."
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a Justice League movie, right?

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25. "November 17th, 2017"
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After BvS is Suicide Squad. After SS is Wonder Woman. After WW is Justice League Part 1.

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i mean, i dunno how you make that work so i'm not mad. just asking.

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27. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics%27_shared_universe_films"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics%27_shared_universe_films

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33. "i've been clowning, but that trailer sold me. i fux w/ this heavy."
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34. "Saw a good portion of it and NNNIIIIGGGGGGAAAAA!!!!!!!"
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David Ayer should be spearheading this shit not Snyder.

I have literally no idea how this is gonna be PG-13.

But man everyone is killing it in this (Jai Courtney is decent at best).

I can't wait to see the complete first cut in a few months.

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35. "I need to know how Joker and Deadshot work out "
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36. "Very, very well. Very unique portrayls as well. nm"
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37. "Does Leto give Ledger a run?"
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I’m in the camp that sees Heath’s Joker at the top of the conversation of the greatest portrayal of a comic book character we’ve ever had. I also wasn’t bothered by Leto’s appearance in those picture leaks earlier.

In light of those two things, how would you say Leto holds up? I don’t really want a direct comparison so much as an idea of whether or not Leto’s version holds his own.

  

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38. "His version is much more unhinged."
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It's different, but same if that makes sense.

As far as who's better, that's really hard to say. I don't wanna say unitl I see the finished product or at least the first cut in a few months time.

But as of now Ledger is still the GOAT.

But Leto's version much more scarier and intimidating.

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39. "bwood, you always get me even more hyped for movies I want to see."
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I can't wait to see this movie, it looks way better to me than Batman v Superman.

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40. "New Trailer"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs

  

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41. "This could be fun"
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Could be a total clusterfuck, but it looks promising.

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42. "Yep. SO MANY CHARACTERS!"
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But could be a kind of kick-ass action movie. Hoping for the best.

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43. "A DC movie with a sense of humor?"
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Yep, very in. Glad that grim-to-the-point-of-self-parody tone seems like it will stick with the Snyder flicks.

Ayer's gonna bring the heat, gang.

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44. "yeah the song selection really made me smile."
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I'm guessing DC is gonna open the universe
and flesh out these characters with their own movies.

I don't know if I liked the Superman movie or not.
I liked parts of it but by the end I was just sort of
realizing that I was tired of every city being blown to bits
in every summer blockbuster. And there was no color.
I remember watching Superman movies as a kid...
He was never my fav but there was a movie there
that could make children's eye light up and still be satisfying to adults.

The Nolan Batman franchise - perfect tone. It's Batman.

Superman didn't need to be so dreary. And we're gonna get
a second helping of that for sure with holy shit this title is
confusing and way too fucking long VS Batman.

So while this movie looks a little dark for sure, lol...
I'm guessing they'll be able to squeeze out a PG-13 rating
and hopefully it surprises people like Guardians did.
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45. "yeah this looks good"
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46. "in. looks dope."
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47. "Queen makes almost anything better"
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That trailer was freaking fantastic. Now I'm hype for this one.

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48. "Suicide Squad to be more fun *swipe*"
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They fucking smarten up.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/03/31/suicide-squad-reshoots-bode-well-for-the-dc-movieverse

SUICIDE SQUAD Reshoots Bode Well For The DC Movieverse
It's getting funnier.

A couple of weeks ago I spoke with an excellent source who told me something surprising: the trailer for Suicide Squad, the one with the Queen song, did not represent the film as it then existed. "Every joke in the movie is in that trailer," this source told me. The enormous positive response to the trailer led to Warner Bros requesting reshoots that would alter the tone of the film, bringing in some more of the lightness to which audiences responded.

I have since spoken to more sources and I understand that the reshoots are happening right now, as recently as this week, and that they're big - tens of millions of dollars big. And they're adding more humor and lightness into the film.

This, to me, is great news. Hearing that WB is aware that they need to inject some fun into these movies - and that's what I'm hearing is happening here, not that they're inserting jokes left and right but that they're beefing up fun character moments and interactions - can only mean good things for the future of the DC Movieverse after the deadly serious, zero fun Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

Justice League begins shooting very, very soon - within a couple of weeks - could this attitude find itself a home on the set of the next Zack Snyder movie? Remember, this is the guy who didn't have Superman and Wonder Woman speak one word to each other - will WB mandate more character interactions? Word is that they're being much more involved this time around...

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49. "So Suicide Squad will still be a mess"
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But any reigning in of Snyder probably bodes well for Justice League. Hopefully he gets so frustrated by his experience on JL that he steps down from the DC universe.

I can't remember a movie studio fumbling a sure thing this badly. Maybe Lucas with the prequels?

What is the advantage of rushing into the world building so fast? Warner could've literally copied Marvel's formula note for note and milked more profits out of the individual character flicks building up to BvS. The mismanagement of this whole thing is historically bad.

  

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50. "Everything you've said is what I've told them from day one."
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When I was still working at WB, I said it's a bad idea to shove so much shit into one film to leap into Justice League. I said, if you're gonna do that, then you might as well do the Justice League and then work backwards. Use the JL: War template that introduces these established heroes and bring them together, like they did in the comic run and cartoon movie. Or be smart and build up to it. Do a Man of Steel sequel proper, a stand alone Batman, and the solo Wonder Woman movie, do a Trinity movie, then head into a JL film. Have a couple more solo films from the rest of the team and then adapt the Death of Superman storyline for JL2 setting up Darkseid for JL3. I also told them do not let Zack run this fucking universe.

I was laughed at every time I brought this up.

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53. "I don't get the Zack Snyder love"
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55. "In his defense he's got fantastic visuals plus what he did with 300"
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Which, if memory serves me correct was released more like a 'Gods of Egypt' cheap winter action movie but ended up being a blockbuster in every sense of the word.

I just keep on expecting him to get it as far as plot/storytelling is concerned (Watchmen might have been the pressure of an adaptation, Sucker Punch may have been him just getting his surreal film student nut on, etc)...but its just apparent its hard coded into his DNA as a film maker. its just needlessly clunky/obtuse and nonsensical.

Like the convoluted Inception-esque 'dream within a dream' layers in Sucker Punch which was just needless paint job over action pieces involving sci-fi/fantasy and tits and ass. He thinks he's the Terrence Malick of action filmmaking when he's just Brett Ratner.


Imho only way to save his future filmography is to have him work on other people's scripts that play to his strengths (maybe dark scifi/horror, noir, etc)

  

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56. "Do not have this nigga do noir"
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>Imho only way to save his future filmography is to have him
>work on other people's scripts that play to his strengths
>(maybe dark scifi/horror, noir, etc)

He's been aping Nolan's style for 3 films now, and while Nolan excells at mixing noir with other genres with his use of cold detachment, "realism", and the surreal; it's apparent that Snyder needs to go back to what made DAWN OF THE DEAD & 300 work which is a simple, solid story so he can focus on directing with the color palette that makes his shit pop.

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51. "ok maybe I was wrong for hoping for a comic book Harsh times/End of Watc..."
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54. ""I got a bad feeling about this" (c) Leia"
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Nothing about what they are doing has made me feel good since walking out of BvS, and I was looking forward to SS way more from the get-go too.

Now though, not near as much.

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57. "Suicide Squad Official Trailer #2"
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Suicide Squad Official Trailer #2 (2016)

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58. "that looks like a movie that doesn't suck"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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59. "All the trailers/promo for this so far have looked fantastic."
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Perhaps I'm biased since I love the source material, but this looks like a movie that might could be a sleeper hit, a la Guardians of the Galaxy.

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60. "looks like it'll be a fun watch"
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for some reason i didn't think Will would play Will in this but I guess I was wrong lol

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61. "Seeing this shit tonight. Embargo up at noon EST."
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62. "Reviews are mixed to negative. Most are ROUGH..."
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64. "it is getting hammered"
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man DC just cant do shit right can they?

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68. "Yea, but is it bwood good?"
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69. "I find out in less than 3 hours."
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63. "Friend of a friend worked on it. Said it was a shitshow."
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I was hoping that it was just a shitshow to work on but sounds like it's just not that great.

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65. "Man I really want this to be good, Please be good!"
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I shouldn't have looked at the reviews.

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66. "My buddy (who I see eye to eye with 98% of the time) gave it a B+"
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We have had differing opinions though.

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67. "Any other DC flicks to watch OR comic books to read before seeing this?"
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For full enjoyment..

  

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70. "TBH, I'm surprised 2 dumbasses haven't cried"
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bloody murder yet.

Give it time I guess...

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71. "damn this joint is getting BvS clubbed doggs"
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72. "There's really good things in a pile of shit. Full review soon."
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It's a hot mess y'all.

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73. "damn Ayer failed us too?"
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he's the main reason I though this would be good

is it story?

actor chemistry?

mood/tone?

all of thee above?

what's happening to Wil's career? he seems to have nothing but duds lately

  

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76. "just because it is a pile of shit doesnt mean it will be a box office du..."
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im sure this will make a shit load of money just like BvS did.

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77. "What everyone fails to realize is that these movies"
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are so high in budget that anything less than $950 million worldwide and the studio doesn't make money.

No way this passes $800.

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79. "Holy shit. That number is insane. 900milly. Fuck"
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BvS didn't make that? Did it?

  

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82. "Sure didn't."
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People forget that the budgets that are released for these are much higher plus marketing and then for the first two weeks theaters take a significant portion of profits. Hence why everything has to hit a billion nowadays.

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80. "D/p"
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100. "Could you break that down or point to a read that breaks that down?"
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Not doubting it, the way some shitty movies that still bank foreign are perceived as "flops", but is that all on worldwide marketing spend?

  

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78. "Reviews are def impacting the B.O. of these movies"
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BvS made money but had it actually been a good movie it would of made much more. These arent even doing Dark Knight Trilogy numbers, which is a step backward.

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83. "BvS grossed $874 worldwide"
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It needed to hit $923 to make profit.

DVD sales used to be a big lifesaver but they're dying a slow death so...

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94. "RE: "
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Yeah in this day and age if a movie putting Batman against Superman cant make a billion worldwide, something def went wrong along the way. They need to ditch Snyder.

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74. "Wait. what happend? in reply 34 you were amped"
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in a way, I'm super jealous you actually get to see the process of film making the way you do...

  

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75. "This shit reeks of studio inteference."
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The way the shit is edited and shifts in tone are obvious of what's studio mandated and what's not.

Also, I could've swore from the 30 or so minutes of this I saw earlier that the Joker was in it a lot more.

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81. "It's wild that in 2016, studios think it's a good idea to take ppl's vis..."
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Like they do.

  

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99. "Studios out here trying to get this money"
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Trying to quantify the unquantifiable

  

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88. "fuck..........."
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93. "LOL.I guess its time to wait for the 'ultimate cut'"
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Its unfortunate because if you think about it both movies suffered from the cold cruel hand of studio interference (Bvs wasn't gonna be a 3 hour movie but still).

Meanwhile Nolan just asks for a check and delivers a movie two years later without nary a word, lol. Dudes probably dont even know what he looks like.

  

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84. "damn"
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I need to start putting these DC movies on wait on review and word of mouth status before buying a ticket.

I'll see for myself tomorrow night.

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85. "Full review."
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WB and DC are gonna have a tough time convincing a majority of people that their shared universe is worth exploring. As it stands now the DC Extended Universe is either two for two (or three for three depending on who you ask about Man of Steel), and with Suicide Squad this was a movie I was really looking forward to.

With Superman now dead (still can’t believe that shit), Amanda Waller (played by Viola Davis) sets forth into motion a group of highly skilled killers and metahumans to be a contingency plan when things go south. And things go south quickly allowing Task Force X (or the Suicide Squad) to go forth and save the world.

The good news is this is not as bad as Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice. It definitely suffers from having too many cooks in the kitchen as this thing reeks of studio interference. DC Films is supposed to be filmmaker driven and yet this feels like any generic blockbuster from the past five years that supposed to hit the studio mandated checkmarks. From the wild shifts in tone to inconsistent character motivations and actions to a clichéd third act that doesn’t fit what came before at all. In fact I’d be damned to tell you where the second act starts and where the third act begins.

And man do I feel bad most of all for the actors all of them shining in their various roles, but really outside of Deadshot who is brought to life with so much anger, pain and regret by Will Smith, not a single one of these characters have any real motivation. Margot Robbie is great as Harley Quinn and I love finally seeing this character in a live action movie. Margot was made for this role. But the way Harley changes from scene to scene, second to second is so inconsistent that I got whiplash. Slipknot played by Adam Beach is in the film for about five minutes tops, that made me wonder why such a noted actor would waste his time in a glorified cameo that does not a thing in terms of story or character in helping the film overall. Same goes for Jai Courtney as Captain Boomerang and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc. Both bring a lot to cool characters that the film decides to not do much with. Karen Fukuhara as Katana is someone who could’ve been cut from the film altogether and would have no major impact on the film itself. Same goes for Jared Leto’s Joker, who I found to be fine, but from what I gather people will either hate or like. Ike Barinholtz’s sadistic prison guard disappears after the squad is gathered together. Joel Kinnaman who I usually like is limp as Rick Flag, Amanda Waller’s right hand man and has a relationship with June Moon played by Cara Delevinge who is possessed by the witch Enchantress who serves as the film’s limp, weak villain along with her brother Incubus (whose powers are so almighty, it made me scratch my head at things he could “fix”). Guys, I can’t and won’t go into how bad Incubus is, he is something you have to see to believe.

Enchantress is laughable from the moment she’s introduced and makes for a weak villain with no motivations other than to take over the world with another big generic beam of light (another literal light show). The way she moves in the uninventive climax had me laughing with disbelief. And the same goes for El Diablo (played by Jay Hernadez) when his big moment comes that’s supposed to be triumphant. What is pretty much the only other character arc besides Deadshot in this, is undermined by one of the most absurd CG effects fight I’ve seen this year. And that’s saying a lot as 2016 gave us Doomsday. And yes, Batman shows up and does stuff to make me hate him even more. He’s the least heroic character in the film aside from Enchantress and Amanda Waller. As a matter fact it boggles my mind that not one person stopped and said “Hey Suicide Squad is about a bunch of bad guys who are more heroic than two of the most recognizable and beloved characters in the world”.

David Ayer’s voice got lost in this as this seems like the work of a schizophrenic. There’s a song almost every two minutes with some on the nose (”Sympathy for the Devil” plays during Amanda Waller’s intro) to the utterly bizarre (”Black Skinhead” plays when Deadshot gets to show off his skills). Someone has to tell me what was behind the choice of including The Flash in this film for a brief cameo. If that was the case, then where was he and Batman and Wonder Woman when the city went under siege? And they never bother to explain just how Enchantress transformed average citizens into mindless drones or the fact that the squad kills these people by the hundreds. There’s flashbacks with Harley and The Joker that feel as if they’re from a different film entirely. It’s clear what’s been reshot and what wasn’t. People are in disbelief when Enchantress and Killer Croc are introduced but when Katana is brought into the fold, she along with her sword that traps souls are met with a collective shrug and a “by the way this is our friend Katana” type intro. This film feels so disconnected from one moment to the next that it feels as if Ayer was locked out of the editing bay, while the WB suits try to “fix” what people didn’t like from Batman v. Superman by making it more like a specific Marvel film (and you can clearly see what they were curbing from) instead of sticking to their guns and letting Ayer have his film.

I hated Amanda Waller. She’s the real villain here. And I would absolutely watch a movie based around her. Deadshot is a complicated, conflicted bad guy who I’d love to see go toe to toe with Ben Affleck’s Batman in a film. Can you imagine that? Will Smith and Ben Affleck going head to head. Harley Quinn I could easily watch a whole movie based around her. Suicide Squad is a movie that has too much going on with no guiding hand to lead it somewhere worth while. What exactly was this movie’s purpose in the grand scheme of the DCEU remains to be seen cause as it stands, I have no idea. It’s crazy that people hate this more than Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, as at least this didn’t make me want to take a cold bath and slit my wrists with Creed plays on in the background so there’s that. But I can’t recommend this either. This is a disappointing end to a very disappointing summer. I imagine it’s gonna be a huge uphill battle from here on out to get people to trust and see any DC/WB films from here on out. Everyone in front and behind the camera deserve a much, much better film. And so do you.

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87. "Shit. Tell 'em how you really feel, hah."
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Great review, too bad the movie is such shit though. I wanted to check this out to dip my toes back into the DC universe but I think I might stay away.

Unfortunate because the premise of The Suicide Squad is so cool.

  

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89. "wow"
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86. "Secret 'Suicide Squad' Drama"
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August 03, 2016 5:30am PT by Kim Masters
'Suicide Squad's' Secret Drama: Rushed Production, Competing Cuts, High Anxiety

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The upheaval like that behind Warner Bros.'s DC team-up is becoming a staple of studio franchise filmmaking.

"Better late than never." That was one Warner Bros. executive's reaction to the excitement at Suicide Squad's splashy Aug. 1 premiere in New York. Tracking indicates the film could open to more than $140 million domestic and potentially hand the studio its first unequivocal megahit since American Sniper's $547.4 million in December 2014. With March's Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice grossing $873 million worldwide but failing to impress audiences or reach the hoped-for $1 billion mark, Warners still urgently needs to jump-start its critical DC Comics universe, raising the stakes for Suicide Squad, which cost at least $175 million to make.

Yet if the villain team-up ultimately works — and it has drawn some harsh early reviews — it will be in spite of the kind of behind-the-scenes drama that is becoming typical for giant franchise movies that now are the main focus of the studio business: a production schedule engineered to meet an ambitious release date; a director, David Ayer (Fury), untested in making tentpole movies; and studio executives, brimming with anxiety, who are ready to intercede forcefully as they attempt to protect a branded asset. Often, efforts to fix perceived problems ratchet up costs, which drive anxiety ever higher. In extreme cases, such as Fox's troubled Fantastic Four, the intervention is so aggressive that it becomes unclear what it means to be the director. (In each such case, studios are careful to stress that the credited director is on-scene and in charge, which is essential to avoid DGA issues. And the wise director plays along.)

So despite grueling moments, multiple editors and competing cuts, the production of Suicide Squad barely stands out in today's landscape. In a joint statement to THR, Ayer and Warners production president Greg Silverman say: "This was an amazing experience. We did a lot of experimentation and collaboration along the way. But we are both very proud of the result. This is a David Ayer film, and Warners is proud to present it."

Warners chief Kevin Tsujihara announced the project in October 2014 as part of a slate of 10 DC films stretching into 2020. Though the studio believed there was enough time to get the movie done, a source with ties to the project says it was a sprint from the start. " wrote the script in like, six weeks, and they just went," he says, arguing that the whole process would have benefited if Ayer, 48, had been given more time to work. But another source closely involved with the film says once it was dated, pushing back the release was not an option: "It's not just that you've told the public the movie is coming, you've made huge deals around the world with huge branding partners, with merchandise partners. It's a really big deal to move a tentpole date."

In Ayer, Warners enlisted a director who had never made a giant, effects-packed action movie. Hiring filmmakers who lack such experience is the trend, and it's often out of necessity. "There are a lot of people who don't want to direct those movies and that's a huge problem," says one producer with franchise experience. "A lot of the proven guys are back-to-back with their stuff, or they want to develop it for five years, and there's a machine that has to be fed. And there's the economics." Seasoned directors are expensive, meaning studios turn to those with less experience, relying on instinct that they will be up to the job. Sometimes it works (Colin Trevorrow on Jurassic World), and sometimes it doesn't (James Bobin on Alice Through the Looking Glass).

A source with knowledge of events says Warners executives, nervous from the start, grew more anxious after they were blindsided and deeply rattled by the tepid response to BvS. "Kevin was really pissed about damage to the brand," says one executive close to the studio. A key concern for Warners executives was that Suicide Squad didn't deliver on the fun, edgy tone promised in the strong teaser trailer for the film. So while Ayer pursued his original vision, Warners set about working on a different cut, with an assist from Trailer Park, the company that had made the teaser.

By the time the film was done, multiple editors had been brought into the process, though only John Gilroy is credited. (A source says he left by the end of the process and that the final editor was Michael Tronick.) "When you have big tentpoles and time pressure, you pull in resources from every which way you can," says this source. "You can't do it the way it used to be, with one editor and one assistant editor."

In May, Ayer's more somber version and a lighter, studio-favored version were tested with audiences in Northern California. "If there are multiple opinions that aren't in sync, you go down multiple tracks — two tracks at least," says an insider. "That was the case here for a period of time, always trying to get to a place where you have consensus." Those associated with the film insist Ayer agreed to and participated in the process. Once feedback on the two versions was analyzed, it became clear it was possible to get to "a very common-ground place." (The studio-favored version with more characters introduced early in the film and jazzed-up graphics won.) Getting to that place of consensus, however, required millions of dollars worth of additional photography.

Other sources describe a fraught process — one cites "a lot of panic and ego instead of calmly addressing the tonal issue." Clearly all wasn't sitting right with Ayer, who in June suddenly dropped his longtime agent at CAA and defected to WME, though the agency won him back in a day. "He was under a lot — a lot — of pressure," says one person with knowledge of the situation, arguing that Ayer was exhausted and needed time to process conflicting ideas.

And there may have been other strains. Just weeks before the two versions were tested, Warners declined to ante up for Ayer's next project, Bright, which will reunite him with Squad star Will Smith. He ended up at Netflix, which made a staggering $90 million deal. Nonetheless, a day or two after Ayer fired and rehired CAA, another cut of the film was screened for a test audience, and sources say the results were strong enough that there was an upbeat plane ride back to Los Angeles.

Now the question is whether the film will deliver for an industry thirsty for something, anything, that will work in a summer bereft of live-action hits. Though reviews suggest the competing visions for the movie may have taken a toll (THR's critic calls the film "puzzlingly confused"), BTIG analyst Rich Greenfield says, "I've learned long ago there is not always a connections between reviews and box office and financial success." At the same time, it is imperative for Warners to build DC movies fans love like they do the Marvel pics.

Even on the day of the premiere, one insider fretted about whether Suicide Squad would mirror BvS' huge opening and weak legs. Another veteran says the goal is survival: "The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they'll consider it a win."

This story first appeared in the Aug. 12 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. To receive the magazine, click here to subscribe.

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90. "Hollywood is a scary, cutthroat place."
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Seems like that article is just one big case of CYA. Pretty damning for so many folks involved with the flick to be willing to contribute to that article before the flick drops.

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109. "they let the company that cut the teaser edit the final movie cut lmao"
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hopefully we get to see ayers original cut on blu ray.

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91. "Deadshot, Amanda Waller, Harley, and El Diablo barely save this"
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Enchantress and Incubus are fucking pathetic as villains. Joker is the worst Joker ever, and barely in it. Rick Flagg in no way looks like a great soldier. Will Smith is the best thing about this movie, followed by Waller and Harley. Affleck is good too. Basically, some of the stars showed why they are stars. I really love Will Smith in this.

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92. "This your biannual reminder: WB is run by a CEO with no knowledge of mov..."
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/warner-bros-mulls-releasing-films-881265

CEO Kevin  Tsujihara is said to want to reduce releases and focus on his trio of potential hitmaker silos (sound familiar?).

This story first appeared in the April 22 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine. To receive the magazine, click here to subscribe.

With Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, has Warner Bros. finally turned a corner?

After an abysmal run of expensive underperformers including Jupiter Ascending, Pan and In the Heart of the Sea, the studio launched its effort at a Marvel-style film universe with the DC Comics movie that had been touted as proof the regime installed in 2013 and headed by chairman and CEO Kevin Tsujihara was getting on track. But a dizzying 69 percent plunge that followed its March-record $166.1 million domestic opening ($422.5 million worldwide) means Batman is not a clear win.

Some competitors say the film may turn a profit but hardly will be the money gusher studios hope for when they pour massive resources into making a giant tentpole with a big star — with a budget in this case said to be in excess of $300 million, and Ben Affleck. "The biggest problem," says the head of a rival studio, "is that it is not turning into Marvel. The audience has communicated, as have the critics." One agent notes BvS likely won't get to $1 billion despite launching the universe with "two of the most iconic characters in history." Pointing out that Jurassic World pulled in $1.67 billion globally, he continues, "you can't tell me Batman v. Superman is so much less valuable."

Several sources say Warner Bros. executives were convinced they had the goods with BvS and were shocked when negative reviews began pouring in. Now, with DC movies dated through 2020, the outcome has led to a flurry of rumors that the studio will make adjustments — maybe add a new producer? — rather than allow BvS director Zack Snyder to proceed with the two-part Justice League. But sources with firsthand knowledge of the situation say the studio has no such plans. One says the filmmakers naturally will evaluate what went wrong with BvS, but when it comes to Justice League, "we're not going to take a movie that's supposed to be one thing and turn it into a copycat of something else."

Many top industry executives believe the troubles with BvS are the latest sign of the instability created when Time Warner chairman and CEO Jeff Bewkes ousted Alan Horn as president in 2011. That set the stage for the infamous executive bake-off and the exit of Jeff Robinov, then head of the successful film group.

Ultimately, Bewkes promoted Tsujihara to the top Warners job and created a committee to run the film studio that includes president Greg Silverman and marketing and distribution chief Sue Kroll. It's fair to say things haven't gone so well since. (Warners' loss was Disney's gain, with Horn presiding over that studio as it has become dominant.)

In an era of turmoil and transformation, even competitors aren't eager to see a legacy studio like Warner Bros. struggle. Warners long has been known for its commitment to filmmaker- and star-driven projects, but sources see signs of a change in culture, though the studio denies there is one. Several executives and agents say Warners seems to be greenlighting fewer homegrown movies as it focuses on silos that echo those that generate so many hits for Disney (Marvel, Lucasfilm, Pixar and Disney Animation). In Warners' case, the silos are DC Comics, Lego and a planned franchise spun off from the Harry Potter series. Tsujihara has touted that trio as the linchpin of his film strategy, and now, much like Disney, has eschewed all but a few original live-action films. Overall, sources say there is an understanding Warners is aiming to release fewer homegrown films than the industry-leading 21 it did in 2015. The studio still will make some movies from "family" directors including Affleck, Clint Eastwood, Christopher Nolan and Todd Phillips. But the emphasis is elsewhere. One insider says the studio will remain a dominant distributor, but "when you get to almost a movie every other weekend or a period where there's a movie three weeks in a row, that's too much."

Warners maintains there has been no change in policy. "Warner Bros. has historically had the biggest, most diverse slate in the motion picture industry," says a rep in a statement. "We did last year, we will this year, and we will continue to do so into the foreseeable future." (The studio says it will release 18 movies this year and is projected to release 19 in 2017.)

But a person who does extensive business at Warners says it has entered a phase that's not only about the number of releases. "It's not dramatic, but it is uncharted territory for them," he says. "They were always filmmaker-driven — that might now not be the case as much. They had a bad 18 months. How could there not be some kind of reaction to that?" Says another executive with business at the studio: "It's a strange path to a greenlight now. It takes longer."

Warners could have some bright spots this year. Suicide Squad (Aug. 5) might be the fan hit the DC universe needs. The studio will have a potential draw for adults with Eastwood's hero pilot pic Sully (Sept. 9). And on Nov. 18, Warners will launch what seems its surest four-quadrant bet, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. But, notes analyst Steve Birenberg of Northlake Capital Management, "Time Warner has some work ahead, and it would be helpful if the next movie in the DC relaunch were more widely praised."

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95. "All you Marvel dick riders go post in another thread. "
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WB/DC has been giving us super hero gems for years now. Green Lantern, Superman Returns, Superman 3, Batman Forever, and Batman & Robin just to name a few. Go masturbate to your Dr Strange trailer.

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96. "And there it is."
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103. "You know he's joking, right? "
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I'm 99.98% certain he's joking.

Green Lantern pretty much confirms he's joking.

  

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97. "Wow....."
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Are you voting for Trump for full delusional life decisions.....

  

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98. "</sarcasm>"
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101. "he had me going until I saw green lantern"
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102. "Love this."
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n/m

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104. "A few really good performances stuck in an absolute mess of a movie."
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Pros:
- Will Smith. Old school movie star charisma. Works his ass off here and carries every scene he's in. He's genuinely the best hero in the DC Film Universe right now, despite the storytelling trying to butcher his story at every turn.
- Margot Robbie. Same deal. Oozes charisma. Genuinely funny, though the movie loses track of her toward the end with its ill-advised Joker subplot, and there are definitely holes in her story that confused me. An actual star.
- Viola Davis. Same deal again. Fucking star power. Creepy as shit. Capable of suggesting a whole story with a single line, which is good considering the amount of shoddy exposition she's given. Has the best line: "We put him in a hole and threw away the hole."
- Jay Hernandez. The gangbanger who's done fighting. I'd have watched his entire movie-- they should've given Ayer a small budget and told him to do an El Diablo origin. The fight at the end takes a weird turn that is never explained and doesn't really make sense, but whatever. He's got the most clear emotional arc in the film. Between this and Bad Moms, great couple of weeks for Hernandez.
- JAI COURTNEY! Yeah, he's given less than nothing to do, but at least he hams it up and sports his Aussie accent, which automatically makes him more interesting. He's working too hard to be funny, and his superpower fucking suuuuuucks (and people thought Hawkeye was lame with his bows and arrows!), but they put a constantly drunk boneheaded Aussie into the mix, and I dug it.

Cons:
- Editing is abysmal. Nonsensical. Pacing nonexistent. Flashbacks scattershot. Origin stories gone or dropped in at random or occasionally dropped in multiple times using the same footage and different points in the film. Reeks of studio interference more than any film this side of Fantastic Four.
- Worst villain I've ever seen in a superhero film. Period. Nothing about Enchantress is clear. Nothing about her brother is clear. The powers aren't clear. The army she builds... it's unclear how it happens and why. She just gyrates in front of a beam of light and speaks in other dimensional subtitles (and her other dimensional talk is, at times, clearly dubbed over her saying lines in English!).
- Joel Kinnaman tries his best, but you can see why they wanted Tom Hardy. You need a guy who can suggest a lot without saying a lot, and Kinnaman isn't really it. They also absolutely butcher his emotional arc, and the reveal of his relationship with Enchantress is hardly a reveal at all-- more repeated information cycled throughout the film, because the test audiences didn't understand. But repeating nonsensical information doesn't make things clearer-- it adds to the confusion.
- outside of one Deadshot sequence (you'll know the one), and a couple of shots of Harley Quinn, there's nothing remotely iconic here. For the problems I had with Nolan's movies, creating iconic moments and sequences was *not* one of them. I was *begging* for quality cinematography here. Maybe it existed at one point and was cut to shreds.
- Killer Croc is fucking embarrassing. A black thug stereotype. Ayer's been known to dive into racial stereotypes before, but Christ, man. I don't want to know the lines left on the cutting room floor. Or maybe these were reshot one-liners. Small, not-really-a-spoiler example: Amanda's asking the bad guys what they'd want from her. Croc chimes in, "BET." Cut later to a shot of him, hands in the air in his cell, chilling watching booties shake on the TV. EMBARRASSING. Killer Croc was dope in TAS. Not here. I felt bad for Adebisi.
- Jared Leto's Joker. First off, outside of the film, no clue why he played awful pranks on the cast-- he never interacts with anyone other than Harley! Second off, he's in four scenes, so good on him for getting second billing. Third off, they could and should have cut everything about him in this film. Fourth off, unless you like envisioning the Joker as a quasi-Scarface pimp type, you won't like this take. He's hammy and unfunny and doesn't generally feel like the Joker I know.
- The song cues. Screams "put in later in hopes of making the movie seem more fun." It doesn't work.
- Slipknot is fucking embarrassing. As is Katana. Why are they here?

So the movie's a fucking mess. It's enjoyable at times when the five actors up top are on screen, but the editing is nonsense, the story is a shambles, and the villain is an all-time low for comic book movies. Rental at absolute best. A lot of people are saying "better than BvS at least"... but I'm not even convinced it's *that* much better if at all. More enjoyable, maybe... but this movie is definitely more of a mess with a billion too many characters and obvious studio interference.

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105. "Will & Margot carried this shit"
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They need to bring Will back in something better. This is saying a lot from me because I'm not a fan of recent roles Will has been in.

I might watch this again if it's on HBO or something.

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106. "so I'm not going to see it then. But are they doomed?"
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That's two back-to-back epic Ls. Not just "well it was ok" kind of responses like Captain America 1. Like it's unanimously understood that Batman/Superman was abysmal and this appears to be on a similar track.

Can they recover? How do you sell more of these DC-branded movies?

  

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110. "Im hoping there's great directors cut a la Kingdom of heaven"
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115. "BvS is MILES better than this"
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it's just dark as hell.
Squad is just a terrible flick.

  

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107. "This video is better than the movie itself."
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This is hella more entertaining.

Also, I'm pretty sure Jared Leto has more screentime in this than the entire movie.

https://youtu.be/ZkqyIoYAXV8

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108. "Turns Out, Zack Snyder Directed A Scene In SUICIDE SQUAD"
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And the hits keep on coming

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/08/05/turns-out-zack-snyder-directed-a-scene-in-suicide-squad

He just loves gettin' in there and mixin' it up with these characters!

By Scott Wampler Aug. 05, 2016

Note: this post contains an extremely unexciting Suicide Squad spoiler.

Suicide Squad, a film which plays a lot like the fever dream of a Hot Topic assistant manager who fell asleep watching Guardians Of The Galaxy, arrives in theaters this weekend, and right now it seems like David Ayer's film is all anyone's talking about.

Yes, even Zack Snyder (Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole), who - in a new interview with Collider's Steve Weintraub - revealed that he had a little bit more to do with Suicide Squad than we realized. Namely, he directed the scene wherein Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney) is captured by the Flash (Ezra Miller).

The scene - and be aware that I'm stretching the definition of the term "scene" here; it's more of a moment - finds Captain Boomerang robbing a diamond exchange joint. Suddenly, the Flash appears, says something extremely unmemorable, and then the moment is over.

So why was it necessary to bring in Snyder? It wasn't necessary: it was convenient. Snyder (Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice) shot the scene because he already had the Flash's costume and a perfectly good Ezra Miller just sitting around on the Justice League set.

“Flash was always in the movie, we just got lucky because Justice League was happening and they had the uniform, they had the assets, so we were able to get that photography.”

In other words, it sounds as though Flash's cameo was actually a composite, with all the Captain Boomerang stuff shot by Ayer and the Flash stuff shot by Snyder (Sucker Punch). Or maybe they shipped Jai Courtney and his tracksuit over to London to film the scene himself. I don't know.

Suicide Squad is now in theaters, god help us.

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111. "140+ projected. 3rd biggest 2016 opening. biggest august opening ever."
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#criticproof

http://deadline.com/2016/08/suicide-squad-weekend-box-office-opening-will-smith-margot-robbie-1201799046/

‘Suicide Squad’ Looking To Loot Year’s Third Biggest Opening With $140M-$145M
by Anthony D'Alessandro
August 5, 2016 12:34pm

2ND UPDATE, Friday, 12:18PM: We already know that Warner Bros.’ Suicide Squad is going to rank as the highest August opening ever at the domestic box office, but with a current 3-day projection of $140M-$145M, it’s bound to be the third best so far this year behind Captain America: Civil War ($179.1M) and Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice ($166M), and the second best this summer, behind Civil War. Today, Suicide Squad is looking to ring up $65M, including last night’s $20.5M previews.

Those in distribution typically say that rival studio executives like to throw rotten apples at your film. But the truth is, everyone likes to see success. Wowed one non-Warner Bros. executive this morning about Suicide Squad, “For all the hype around Pokemon Go, Netflix’s Stranger Things and The Olympics, it’s a good reminder that if you have the right film and your marketing makes it look like a great time, people will still turn out to the theater in droves.”

Currently, per ComScore’s PostTrak, Suicide Squad has a 73% total positive score, which is the same that BvS slotted. As we mentioned earlier, the David Ayer movie is bringing in more females than BvS, 42% to 31%. Also per PostTrak, the combination of African American and Hispanic moviegoers made up a huge 41% of the audience with both audiences giving the film a whopping 81% positive score. The entire Suicide Squad cast was a major reason (at 34%) that people went to see the film, and as proof that Will Smith is still a massive summertime draw, 23% went because of him and 21% were compelled by the appearance of Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. Without question, even though Suicide Squad is an ensemble movie, it will also rank as Smith’s best domestic weekend opening of his career, outflanking 2007’s I Am Legend ($77M). Robbie’s previous weekend high at the B.O. was The Legend of Tarzan at $38.5M. Thirty-two percent also told PostTrak that they came out for Suicide Squad because it’s part of a franchise they love. And if you’re wondering about how those awful reviews factored into moviegoers’ decision to watch Suicide Squad, well, they’re having very little impact: only 4% said they were influenced by reviews to watch this latest DC feature adaptation.

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112. "I love how niggas say critic proof"
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And yet these things always have no legs.

These movies are always gonna have big openings. The real test is the 2nd and 3rd weeks. Which look at BvS. That shit dropped like a brick.

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126. "well, critic proof may be accurate"
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to an extent because people ignored the critics for the first week at least. however, like BvS, the bad reviews combined with the bad word of mouth for the next few weeks will likely kill it. i'm interested to see how close to the drop that BvS had in its second week this movie will get.

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127. "LOL that's the exact opposite of critic proof."
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Critic proof would mean it would have legs.

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113. "Great marketing is definitely critic-proof. Their marketing KILLED it."
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114. "yup. WB marketing dept = the real MVP."
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"Early Evening estimates have Warner Bros.’ Suicide Squad at $140M for the weekend after a Friday that’s between $63.5M-$65M. But, when it comes to the audience and critics’ response to the film, it’s deja-vu all over again. Like Batman v. Superman, which earned a 27% Rotten Tomatoes score and B Cinemascore, Suicide Squad is getting panned by critics (26% Rotten Tomatoes) and has registered an above average response from CinemaScore crowds who gave it a B+ tonight. We’ll assess the long- term ramification of that in a bit, but Warner Bros. marketing department needs to be applauded here for delivering the third-best domestic opening of 2016 to date, the second best of the summer (after Captain America: Civil War‘s $179.1M) and the best opening of Will Smith’s career. Suicide Squad continues to validate Warner Bros. ability to capitalize on its brands.

At the beginning of the summer, rival distribution heads didn’t know whether to make heads or tails about Suicide Squad‘s prospects. After watching Warner Bros. get beat up by crowds and critics despite its $872.7M global business, distributors didn’t know if the DC villain film would work. Warner Bros. executives weren’t cocky either about Suicide Squad’s potential. However, they put their heads down, tubthumped the hell out of this movie, and saved it from being collateral damage in the wake of BvS.

The first thing that Warner Bros. did right in regards to jumpstarting the buzz on Suicide Squad was releasing the Comic-Con sizzle reel for the movie a year ago, rather than making it a precious commodity for Comic-Con attendees. Fanboys were stoked by it. That’s why they pirated it and spread it around the web. Warner Bros. listened and dropped their high quality version online promptly.

But when BvS was flogged for being too dark and serious, the news hit at the end of March that Suicide Squad was returning for reshoots (some say that cost the studio an extra $22M). Ayer insisted in interviews and on Twitter that Warner Bros. was just granting him creative license to add more elements.

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Suicide Squad star Jai Courtney also mentioned that the film already had enough humor in it prior to the reshoots, and that it was just about lensing more action scenes. However, there are others who insist that the reshoots were definitely about supplying more humor, and that those moments wound up in subsequent trailers. Whatever side of the story is true, the point is by the time CinemaCon rolled around in April, there was a brand new, kick-ass “Ballroom Blitz” trailer that Warner Bros. dazzled exhibitors and was definitely responsible for changing the industry’s attitude toward the movie post BvS. Warner Bros. kept dropping trailers through Comic-Con; Margot Robbie’s sexy-sassy Harley Quinn gradually grabbed the spotlight and is now the pic’s ‘It’ girl, fashioned on T-shirts online and a Loot Crate promotion.

By mid June, ComScore’s PreAct noticed that Suicide Squad was already owning the social media conversation after dropping character posters and debuting the Twenty One Pilots music video “Heathens” off the new soundtrack with new footage. In the weeks to come, Suicide Squad would lord over other summer movies like Star Trek Beyond and Ghostbusters, as well as other highly anticipated titles like Rogue One: A Star Wars Story and Warner Bros’ own Fantastic Beasts. Suicide Squad was the most buzzed about title on social during Comic-Con week (July 18-24) with 231K conversations to Wonder Woman’s 151K and Justice League’s 110K. Suicide Squad continued to reign atop PreAct’s chart through July 21 with 172K conversations for the week and a running total of two million-plus.

With a social reach close to 600M across Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube views, Suicide Squad’s social reach is considered exceptional by RelishMix. The film’s Facebook page in recent days added 80K likes per day, which is off the charts by the social media monitor’s measure. Smith is tubthumping to his 75M Facebook fans, Cara Delevingne pumped up the DC adaptation to her 43M, while Jared Leto has reached out to his 13M. Despite the bad reviews, certain flags on social indicated how big Suicide Squad was bound to be: Its 26 videos on the film’s playlist have chalked up 163M views. The“Heathens” music video has clocked close to 75M views on YouTube. Overall, the conversation online has been extremely positive per RelishMix, with fans who’ve already seen the film leading the positive word of mouth charge. Some are still talking about the footage that dropped at Comic-Con last summer, while others are chatting up the film’s string of bad guys.

In regards to the critical and audience reception for Suicide Squad, it’s still up in the air how much mileage this DC feature property has. In relation to its $166M opening, BvS had a two multiple when it finaled domestic with $330.36M (just $2.8M short of overtaking Guardians of the Galaxy stateside). One non-Warner Bros. distribution suit waves off the negative reviews for Suicide Squad, predicting “In its first week, it’s going to make $230M-$250M!” This is further bolstered by the fact that CinemaScore crowds under 35 gave Suicide Squad an A-, while 76% females gave it an A-. The pic also earned an A with the under 18 demo (28%). Others think that a 60% second weekend decline is imminent. By and large, BvS didn’t have such high marks. The other advantage that Suicide Squad has over BvS, is that there’s more kids out of school in the coming weekends. BvS’ business was largely frontloaded because of Easter weekend. Still, many reviews gripe that there’s a good movie in Suicide Squad, it just missed the mark. Keep in mind it’s not just major outlets like The Wall Street Journal, New York Times and The Los Angeles Times flinging popcorn at Suicide Squad, but hipster outlets like Collider and Slate too. The mind wonders, if reviews were through the roof, how much higher would the box office be? Would Suicide Squad’s legs be any longer?"

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116. "‘Suicide Squad’ Dropped by Mexico’s Largest Movie Chain Amid Distr..."
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AUGUST 5, 2016 | 06:14PM PT
MEXICO CITY – The Cinemex movie theater chain has dropped super-villain saga “Suicide Squad” in Mexico following a spat with its local distributor Universal Pictures Mexico, the country’s largest exhibitor announced Friday, disappointing fans who rushed to social media to vent their frustration. The decision is likely to cut into box office grosses in Mexico, a significant international box office territory.

“Dear guest, Suicide Squad will not be shown in any of our complexes,” Cinemex, which operates 296 cinemas and 2,500 movie screens, said in a statement, adding that the decision came after “the movie’s distributor, Universal Pictures Mexico, suddenly changed our pre-negotiated conditions.


“The new terms leave Cinemex at a disadvantage against competitors,” the statement continued.

The chain said moviegoers can go to any Cinemex location to demand a refund or exchange until August 11.

Fans who bought pre-show tickets for the August 5 midnight premiere took to Twitter and Facebook. Some said, “Conspiracy? Was this Disney’s dark hand?” and “Cinemex. Lots of quantity and zero quality.”

Universal Pictures Mexico and Warner Bros. wanted to give Cinemex fewer copies of the film than they allotted to arch rival Cinepolis, Mexican news portal Hipertextual reported, adding that Cinemex was barred from holding promotions. A leaked management memo said the firm had pre-sold 75,000 tickets.

Industry sources said Cinemex’s decision looked odd.

“It draws attention because this movie was announced a long time ago and promises to be one of the year’s top box-office hits,” said film expert Jorge Bravo.

Despite poor reviews, the comic book film is expected to pull well over $100 million when it screens in 57 international markets including Mexico this weekend. It has grossed more than $30 million internationally already.

Bravo added that moviegoers in Mexico, the top movie territory in Latin America, are enamored with hero movies, with “Spider-man” and “Batman” movies topping the box office in the past decade. He said Cinemex is a “huge distributor” with a growing regional presence including Brazil. Therefore, Universal Pictures must have had a strong reason to negotiate better terms with Cinepolis, he added.

Cinepolis, which runs 214 cinemas in 97 cities, caters to fancier customers in the premium-movie segment growing rapidly in Mexico with venues offering more luxurious halls and amenities such as dining and drinks like certain complexes in the U.S.

This is the second time Cinemex has tangled with Universal. In 2010, “Inception” opened late amid disagreements between the two distributor and exhibitor.

Cinemex, Universal Pictures Mexico and Warner Bros. could not immediately be reached for comment.

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117. "Entertained but a BAD movie. Needed lower stakes."
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It made no sense to have the Suicide Squad's main mission be saving someone when there was a threat to the end of the world happening right next door. And how dumb was everyone to see the crazy lights in the sky and still think "It's just terrorists."
Ditto to Joker and Harley. There was potential there to have them realize the world is at stake and decide between fleeing or helping but instead it was just another helicopter crash.

Lower stakes might have made it more believable. The whole Waller twist was horribly executed but made even less sense as it was the obvious second priority.

I thought the movie was fine but it is undoubtedly a mess of a movie. Introducing a character's backstory at the start of act 3 is kind of hilarious. The faceless dudes were running over soldiers but then Harley was just killing them with her bat, and then later Waller says they can survive headshots, which they clearly can't. A superhero movie pet peeve of mine is when people decide to stop using their powers or use them to a lesser degree at key moments; Enchatnress is powerful but then she decided to get into a fistfight with the Suicide Squad, until she finally remembers, oh, I have the power to just strip them of all of their weapons.

The "friends" arc was idiotic. Have them be bad guys; don't have them suddenly be best of friends and comrades.

I liked Margot Robbie and Will Smith although they went to Harley's quips a little too often. It was the same note over and over.

Nice to see Jai Courtney flashing some personality.

Gotham, NJ? Really.

Liked the quick flash that Harley killed Robin.

The music was distracting. You could tell they shoehorned in all those pop songs at the last minute.

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118. "On the count of three, Slip, me & you are gonna make a break for it"
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One..Two...Thr--aww man, my shoe's untied...Three! Slip? Slip?

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119. "RUMOR: List Of Potential Deleted ‘Suicide Squad’ Scenes"
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http://heroichollywood.com/speculation-rumored-deleted-suicide-squad-scenes/

Despite negative critical reviews, Suicide Squad is on track to obliterate the box office record for the biggest opening weekend in August (the previous holder being Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy). Overall, the film felt like there were a lot of scenes that were left on the cutting room floor. For one, as someone who revisited the film’s trailers religiously in anticipation for its release, I was surprised to see a couple moments from them that didn’t make the final cut. For example, the Joker’s “Bye bye!” snippet was not featured in the film.

The film reportedly test screened a few months back, and there apparently were two different versions that were screened. To add another intriguing aspect to this situation, a Reddit user shared a list of deleted scenes from the film that showcase a darker tone than the finished product. Now, it must be emphasized that this list of deleted scenes is not official, and further discussion on them is pure speculation. But when one reads through them, these scenes seem quite plausible. You can read the scene descriptions below.

“In early cuts, the movie’s opening detailed June Moon’s possession by Enchantress in real tome. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot.”

“Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.”

“El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.”

“El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quel his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.”

“Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang’s racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behaviour, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.”

“Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearancr and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham’s crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as ‘beautiful,’ one of these were retained in the final cut.”

“Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.”

“Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.”

“More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon’s romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.”

“Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date.”

“Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, “I can’t wait to show you my toys,” which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie.”

“Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.”

“Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker’s head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.”

“Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker.”

“Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.”

“Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.”

“Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley’s neck-bomb to be disabled.”

“More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad.”

“Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone’s orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, “is a good idea.” The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot’s speech about them all almost pulling the mission off.”

“Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.”

“Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.”

“Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.”

Keeping in mind that these deleted scenes have not been confirmed, it leaves me wishing that many of them were implemented into David Ayer’s product. Many of these scenes would have helped flesh out the characters and narrative further and perhaps make the film feel cohesive rather than incoherent. What do you guys think of this list of possible deleted scenes? Do you hope we see them on the future Blu-Ray release, or more ideally – an extended cut of the film? Who knows at this point.

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120. "Doubt any of those would've fixed the key problems."
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Only Croc's backstory would've added stuff, and even then, not sure it would've justified the embarrassing couple of lines he has down at the end.

Kangaroo dropping racist Asian jokes would've been paaaaaainful.

Adding more Joker definitely would not have helped at all. Probably would've just made things feel even more disjointed.

If anything, the movie needed less of pretty much everyone except Deadshot, Harley, and Diablo.

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121. "It would've worked had they take out all the studio mandated"
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shit. Now it's even more obvious what's Ayer and what's WB.

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123. "The studio didn't mandate Pimp Gangster Joker tho."
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The bad guy still would've been Enchantress at the end of the day, and she's an absolutely *terrible* villain, unless they cut literally everything interesting about her and her brother from the cut we saw.

It ain't like *every* bad idea came from the studio. I still think, even if they'd fully gone with Ayer's vision, we'd still have too many goddamn characters, too many of them would've been underdeveloped or poorly developed, and the narrative still would've been a mess. It just would've been more tonally coherent.

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124. "I must be the only one who wasn't bothered by him"
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I've seen so many Jokers that that shit doesn't really bother me.

And sure all of that probably would've sucked still but at least it wouldn't feel like the obvious 2 different films cut together.

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129. "I'd be interested in reading an early SS draft."
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I bet his vision was already fucked with plenty before even shooting. A Director's Cut would fix the massive tone issues in all likelihood... but I know you know how much the suits will fuck with a story before they even get to production.

I wanna know his *pure uncut* vision, lol. I bet it's probably not dissimilar to his own Sabotage, which would be interesting.

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130. "We both agree on most of these issues"
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Biggest takeaway I'd that Kevin Tsujihara kicked off this universe without a solid plan on place and rushed it big time.

When I worked on The Flash script, that was the fourth draft which has since been thrown out.

So I really interested in reading what's gonna be used now.

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125. "Traditional Joker IS Pimp Gangster Joker, though."
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Just a 1940's version of it.

Haven't seen the actual performance yet, but aesthetically, the update makes sense to me.

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128. "I think it's the most boring Joker choice possible in 2016."
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We've seen it a billion times with a billion non-Joker gangsters.

The only reason it's even remotely interesting here is because you know he's the Joker, so the whole movie, you're waiting for him to do something outside of your expectations, to surprise you... and he never does. If his name was Carmine Fratelli and was just some mean mob boss, it'd be a shrug.

The cinematography also doesn't help. You go back to Burton and Nolan's Jokers, and they're shot iconically throughout. Here, they just casually cut to him. I know it's not his movie... but there's nothing memorable here. Also doesn't help that his storyline is clearly shoehorned in and doesn't tie in with the rest of the film at all, so any time he pops up, it's a diversion from the plot. The writing doesn't help either, as he's not funny or especially mean or crazy. He's just doing basic bad guy shit, shooting people, kidnapping wives, intimidating lackeys, etc. I understand that they cut a bunch of his shit-- maybe they left the interesting stuff on the cutting room floor.

Like, in a movie with a dozen or so characters, you'd hope the Joker would be in the Top 3. Instead, he's more middle of the pack. Which I just think is a damn shame.

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131. "Leto commenting on cut scenes"
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/08/05/jared-leto-unsure-about-jokers-journey-in-suicide-squad

man, haven't seen it yet but everything i read and watch about it just makes it so so fucking terrible that i probably will wait till i can bootleg it.

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134. "this affirms my belief that most actors are just dumb as shit"
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Hey Jared, you're making a dumb Batman movie not Citizen Kane, try easing up off the woe is me act. And for future reference, kind of just as a "too-close-to-home" thing, let's not even jokingly propose that someone playing the Joker would be better off dead for the character's sake...

  

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135. "Leto is, literally, the worst. "
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The music in the movie feels like they added it later. It didn't fit the movie at all.

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132. "Shit was tight. I'd definitely watch again. "
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Deadshot was thoro. Katana, Harley, and Diablo were dope.

Even Enchantress was nice. Reminded me a little bit of those Hellboy flicks. Much better than X-Men, as good as Deadpool, almost as good as Age of Ultron.

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this isn't even in the same universe as being as good as deadpool. and age of ultron had a far superior villain.

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153. "I appreciate people with shitty taste who review movies here"
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I now know to never see a movie based on his recommendation

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234. "Fam, I don't know what your expectation was."
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Mine was. Comic book movie. See some cool shit. See some super powers. And that's it.

I wasn't expecting a great movie. I was expecting an action popcorn flick. That simple.

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133. "Shit was tight. I'd definitely watch again. "
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Deadshot was thoro. Katana, Harley, and Diablo were dope.

Even Enchantress was nice. Reminded me a little bit of those Hellboy flicks. Much better than X-Men, as good as Deadpool, almost as good as Age of Ultron.

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138. "Flawed but pretty enjoyable."
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I've been a fan of the Suicide Squad comic book for a little while, especially the original John Ostrander run on the book which is phenomenal. I can't believe a movie based on these characters has been made. Deadshot and Harley Quinn were awesomely portrayed, and even getting to see Amanda Waller and Captain Boomerang (what??) on the big screen was pretty cool.

Was it flawed? Very much so. The editor job at Warner's DC division needs to be fired immediately, and have some more balls when standing up to the brass. The Ultimate Edition of BvS was much better than the theatrical version, I suspect this 'Ultimate Edition', if it ever gets released, would be pretty amazing. I wanted more Joker (Leto was good but what little we saw was NOT enough), thought Enchantress was weak (but not as bad as I'm reading here... poor Delevingne did what she could), and would have liked more background on others besides Deadshot and Harley (who we actually got a brief glimpse of in her comic book/TV show costume!). I also keep in mind how little we learned of most of the X-Men characters in all of their movies (save Wolverine), and those movie always fared better with critics and audiences, so the hate here is a little strange.

While it was easy to say "why have this team put together to fight a couple of witches when Flash or Wonder Woman could have fought her themselves", the very first comic book mission these characters came together for was to fight a skyscraper sized demon from Apokolips. Read Legends #3 for the first appearance of the Suicide Squad to see how the team was originally portrayed, and for them to go head-to-head with a gigantic fire monster.

I liked it, despite its problems, and hope we'll get to see the movie that could have been.

Trust me, I'm just pretty surprised that I liked the movie at all with the hate DC has been given, seeing as how I'm a Marvel fanboy first and foremost.

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139. "RE: Flawed but pretty enjoyable."
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>I've been a fan of the Suicide Squad comic book for a little
>while, especially the original John Ostrander run on the book
>which is phenomenal. I can't believe a movie based on these
>characters has been made. Deadshot and Harley Quinn were
>awesomely portrayed, and even getting to see Amanda Waller and
>Captain Boomerang (what??) on the big screen was pretty cool.
>
>Was it flawed? Very much so. The editor job at Warner's DC
>division needs to be fired immediately, and have some more
>balls when standing up to the brass. The Ultimate Edition of
>BvS was much better than the theatrical version, I suspect
>this 'Ultimate Edition', if it ever gets released, would be
>pretty amazing.

The problems goes beyond the editing. There a post up above detailing in full what happened.




I wanted more Joker (Leto was good but what
>little we saw was NOT enough), thought Enchantress was weak
>(but not as bad as I'm reading here... poor Delevingne did
>what she could),

Dawg, you can't tell me with a straight face that Enchantress isn't as bad as we made her out to be. She was literally doing a fucked up belly dance during the climax. She had a pissed poor plan and holy shit at June Moon. An archeologist thinks it's a good idea to break off the head of ancient totem? Fuck. outta. here.


and would have liked more background on
>others besides Deadshot and Harley (who we actually got a
>brief glimpse of in her comic book/TV show costume!). I also
>keep in mind how little we learned of most of the X-Men
>characters in all of their movies (save Wolverine), and those
>movie always fared better with critics and audiences, so the
>hate here is a little strange.

X-MEN has been getting for the exact same shit lately. At least each X-Man got a moment to shine. Kantana, Killer Croc, and Captain Boomerang do nothing and add nothing.



>
>While it was easy to say "why have this team put together to
>fight a couple of witches when Flash or Wonder Woman could
>have fought her themselves", the very first comic book mission
>these characters came together for was to fight a skyscraper
>sized demon from Apokolips. Read Legends #3 for the first
>appearance of the Suicide Squad to see how the team was
>originally portrayed, and for them to go head-to-head with a
>gigantic fire monster.
>


This my problem right here. What works in a comic 80% of the time never works in a movie. That's where adaptation comes in and making it work instead of plastering the shit on screen.


>I liked it, despite its problems, and hope we'll get to see
>the movie that could have been.
>
>Trust me, I'm just pretty surprised that I liked the movie at
>all with the hate DC has been given, seeing as how I'm a
>Marvel fanboy first and foremost.

But, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope people spending money always enjoy it.

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140. "RE: Flawed but pretty enjoyable."
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>>I've been a fan of the Suicide Squad comic book for a
>little
>>while, especially the original John Ostrander run on the
>book
>>which is phenomenal. I can't believe a movie based on these
>>characters has been made. Deadshot and Harley Quinn were
>>awesomely portrayed, and even getting to see Amanda Waller
>and
>>Captain Boomerang (what??) on the big screen was pretty
>cool.
>>
>>Was it flawed? Very much so. The editor job at Warner's DC
>>division needs to be fired immediately, and have some more
>>balls when standing up to the brass. The Ultimate Edition
>of
>>BvS was much better than the theatrical version, I suspect
>>this 'Ultimate Edition', if it ever gets released, would be
>>pretty amazing.
>
>The problems goes beyond the editing. There a post up above
>detailing in full what happened.

Oh I understand, I'm just saying that editing the 'final cuts' of these movies would have resulted in better overall films... More of a reaffirmation of the one point.

> I wanted more Joker (Leto was good but what
>>little we saw was NOT enough), thought Enchantress was weak
>>(but not as bad as I'm reading here... poor Delevingne did
>>what she could),
>
>Dawg, you can't tell me with a straight face that Enchantress
>isn't as bad as we made her out to be. She was literally doing
>a fucked up belly dance during the climax. She had a pissed
>poor plan and holy shit at June Moon. An archeologist thinks
>it's a good idea to break off the head of ancient totem? Fuck.
>outta. here.

I'm not disagreeing with you... I damn near laughed out loud at watching her convulse on screen like a hula hoop instructor. I'm just saying that the villain wasn't as bad as "worst ever"... I mean, the ending of last year's Fantastic Four had whatever the fuck Dr. Doom that was supposed to be and BvS had LoTR cave troll Doomsday. And what about Mr. Freeze and Poison Ivy in Batman & Robin? Or Tommy Lee Jones doing his best to sink himself with that Two Face portrayal in Batman Forever? Listen, I'm not sitting here trying to defend it blindly, but it's not as bad as all that bullshit.

> and would have liked more background on
>>others besides Deadshot and Harley (who we actually got a
>>brief glimpse of in her comic book/TV show costume!). I
>also
>>keep in mind how little we learned of most of the X-Men
>>characters in all of their movies (save Wolverine), and
>those
>>movie always fared better with critics and audiences, so the
>>hate here is a little strange.
>
>X-MEN has been getting for the exact same shit lately. At
>least each X-Man got a moment to shine. Kantana, Killer Croc,
>and Captain Boomerang do nothing and add nothing.

It has. I can't argue this either, I was talking more of it was cool to simply see characters like this get realized on screen at all. Cable has never been on screen in any form, and we got Captain Boomerang? Really?

>>While it was easy to say "why have this team put together to
>>fight a couple of witches when Flash or Wonder Woman could
>>have fought her themselves", the very first comic book
>mission
>>these characters came together for was to fight a skyscraper
>>sized demon from Apokolips. Read Legends #3 for the first
>>appearance of the Suicide Squad to see how the team was
>>originally portrayed, and for them to go head-to-head with a
>>gigantic fire monster.
>>
>
>
>This my problem right here. What works in a comic 80% of the
>time never works in a movie. That's where adaptation comes in
>and making it work instead of plastering the shit on screen.

Absolutely. However, we are talking about a movie of a group of C-list villains being sent into the city for a mission of any kind in the first place. As a fan of the original comic book, it was nice to see them combat a villain as hammy and ridiculous as this, similarly to the ridiculous villain they fought in Legends. Fanboy-ish? Yep, but fuggit.

>>I liked it, despite its problems, and hope we'll get to see
>>the movie that could have been.
>>
>>Trust me, I'm just pretty surprised that I liked the movie
>at
>>all with the hate DC has been given, seeing as how I'm a
>>Marvel fanboy first and foremost.
>
>But, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I hope people spending money
>always enjoy it.

I wish it was always that easy, but I hear you. I went in with lower expectations (as I did with X-Men: Apocalypse) and enjoyed them both. Same happened with BvS, and that didn't turn out well. I'm trying to see the benefits and disadvantages to reading good and bad reviews for movies like this before and after viewing said movie. Hell, your movie reviews are some of the ones I look forward to reading before any of these flicks come out.

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141. "All of those villains had clear motivations and plans tho."
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Enchantress has no character, no explanation of power, no clear plan. No nothing.

Mr. Freeze in Batman and Robin is genuinely twenty times better than Enchantress. He has an emotional arc and a motivation and a plan. He's also campy as shit, and he pales in comparison to how awesome Freeze is in TAS... but he's an actual *character.*

The only one you mentioned who comes close to sucking as much as Enchantress is Doomsday, which I think says a lot about the current state of DC/WB that the villainous plans never make any fucking sense and the villainous characters are often total head-scratchers.

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142. "RE: All of those villains had clear motivations and plans tho."
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How about the witch in the Supergirl movie or Nuclear Man from Superman IV? The smoke monster in Green Lantern? Are we close yet? lol I haven't seen yet and waiting for video release at this point. Margot does look awesome in the trailers tho so hopefully somebody can clean this shit up and make a good movie eventually.

  

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145. "Smoke Monster is close, but that's more of a weapon than a character."
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I know he's a character like Galactus is a character in FF2, but it's channeled here by an actual character.

I don't remember Supergirl or Superman IV well, but I feel confident in saying that in the last 20 years of superhero movies, I've never seen a worse villain than Enchantress and her brother.

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143. "Killa Croc and Viola Davis saved the movie. Fuckin White People "
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When the Killa Croc said all he wanted was BET I just had to laugh.

  

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144. "I walked out "
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I was ready to walk out about 20 minutes into the movie but hung in until after Waller was abducted by Enchantress and just couldn't take it anymore.

I haven't seen a movie this incompetently made in years and that includes Ayer's own "Sabotage" which I somehow despise less than this and I hate that movie. I can't believe that the same filmmaker who made End of Watch shat out Sabotage much less this. But here we are. This is Blade: Trinity level filmmaking.

I haven't seen Batman v. Superman but I cannot imagine a reality in which that is a worse film than this on a just a purely technical level.

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146. "I really liked Sabotage. I should've been the target audience!!"
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147. "I should have loved Sabotage"
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I wish I had loved Sabotage. I was on board for it from its initial announcement but that is another film of Ayer's that is just a mess.

I was really excited for Suicide Squad especially after the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' trailer but always had in the back of my mind the fear that the Ayer that showed up to make Sabotage would show up for Suicide Squad.

It's also what's keeps me from jumping in with the studio interference crowd because I know Ayer can make an absolute shit film by his lonesome. And nothing that has come out regarding the supposed deleted scenes and alternative cut makes me think that anything they would have added would have saved the film.



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149. "No, you're not. Loved that flick."
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Hard to get people to check for it with the bad reviews it got.

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148. "Why did this movie get made now...in 2016?"
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pre-Justice League. It does absolutely nothing for the DCEU at all. As a matter of fact, it really just looks like someone tried to make a DC version of Guardians and Deadpool but missed the point....

Guardians came after Marvel had established a great track record with audiences. There's no way that movie would've been made if there was one flop prior. And Deadpool? People love Deadpool. The only plus I see coming from this is now Amanda Waller, Harley Quinn, Deadshot, and the Joker have been established for future films.

You can almost tell where they recut scenes early on. It's obvious. And Cara Delevigne was godawful.

Slipknot's in here for one scene that doesn't matter at all. Katana doesn't matter. smh...and Killer Croc wtf.

I really think this film could've been decent if DC and WB stayed on the course established in the first teaser. This just puts more pressure on Wonder Woman (which I think is going to be great ) and Justice League (not as sure) to be great.

DC in films mirrors DC Comics in that they always come off so lame when they try to match Marvel in something. I just wish we could've received a solid Superman trilogy.
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150. "there's this false notion that Superman can't be done on film. "
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>DC in films mirrors DC Comics in that they always come off so
>lame when they try to match Marvel in something. I just wish
>we could've received a solid Superman trilogy.

Just use the All-Star Superman concept as a template and build off of that.

Work on the premise that everyone already knows who this guy is. Layer in the idea that he's suddenly not immortal and now he's vulnerable.

Make Ma Kent sick, so despite having all the power in the universe this guy can't tell his mom he's dying because SHE's dying (who couldn't sympathize with someone watching his mom struggle?)A little actual pathos.


Movie 1:
Introduce the "Superman is more powerful than ever but also slowly dying" construct. Supes goes home to tell Ma Kent he's sick, but she tells him she's sick and he doesn't make the reveal.He beats some lacky villain like Metallo, but a Trump-like Luthor is rearing his head (preferably Ed Harris as Luthor)

Movie 2:
Supes first goes home to Smallville. Ma Kent dies. Brainiac comes to earth in search of some rare mineral to stop a spreading epidemic on his home planet. Brainiac meets Luthor and Luthor promises to deliver the mineral if Brainiac can kill Superman. Superman vs Brainiac. Superman defeats but spares Brainiac, but Luthor kills Brainiac instead. Exhausted from the fight, dying, and ashamed by Luthor calling him weak to the public, Superman flees to the Fortress of Solitude. Setting up...

Movie 3:
Luthor runs for Mayor of Metropolis and wins because he had the nerve to do what Superman couldn't do and that's defeat the evil alien invader. While Superman is away Luthor institutes a police state. Superman returns to confront Luthor the demagogue. Now Superman is weaker than ever, closer to the mortal man than he's ever been. Superman vs Luthor. Superman puts up a fight but Luthor is kicking his ass. Facing death, Superman is saved by Brainiac's people who land on earth. They arrest Luthor for the murder of Brainiac. Superman, now a mortal man, moves to Smallville with Lois. In the end, a now powerless Superman is content to trust the Universe to its people who have proven that good will always overcome evil.


  

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151. "I enjoyed it just fine"
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lowered expectations has something to do with that, but I thought this was better than BvS. It didn't drag like that movie did. There are some characters that serve absolutely no purpose and the villain doesn't work at all, but the main cast carried it. I wish Viola had even more to do cause Waller is a fascinating character and she was a perfect choice. Leto was trash though, and his attempted breakout of Harley was stupid.

  

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152. "the first ten minutes I knew what I was in for so I enjoyed it"
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When they did some of the squad overviews of some of the squad I knew what kind of flick this would be (pulp) so all of the critique was dampened

this made it more enjoyable

and the advertising was spot on because anyone expecting anything else with the way it was promoted is foolish

with a few editing fixes this is what DC flicks should be like. Not a hodgepodge of each flick being something different for each stand alone


Highlights:
Will being back. Yall know what IO mean when I say "being back"

Harley


The Joker being non existent to what is actually happening. Of course they're saving him for another Bats flick etc but I thought it was right decision not to make him a prominent element so soon.

The kinetic style of the film. It actually separates it from being a Guardians rip off.

The stunts and effects. Less cheesy than BvS and all the DC rest imho.

Homie from The Killing. Though at times seemed like he was in a different movie, he brought some levity to the events.

Music was on point many times and kept with the frenetic pace and boldness of the flick

Lowlights:

The music. Not enough time given to most of the songs and they were sometimes played to loud over the scenes making them seem like the focus instead of what was on screen

Viola: I know shes stoic as hell in the comics etc but damn was she one note. Could have humanized her in some way. How she was portrayed was more cartoonish then some of the Squad characters

Croc-get him outta there

Give us some daylight...or more of it maybe. I know its supposed to be Dark City but

the third act big machine destroyer of everything ending..good effects but should have been something on a smaller scale..why does every flick have to be some universe challenging spectacle? I don't want Raymond Chandler but...









  

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154. "Not surprised by anything written here."
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155. "Lol"
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That shit was so much fun. It was bullshit but that's what I expected and it made the whole thing laughably fun. The characters were good but the villain sucked, the plot sucked, and the effects sucked. Felt like the actors could tell while shooting it to. Like can you believe they wrote this line for me? Imma deliver the fuck out of this shit and cash my check. Matter fact give me another mil or Imma sit right here and do nothing. Director like are you shooting this? Call the producer! Write another check!

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156. "week 2 BO looking stellar."
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per deadline.com:

"Don’t underestimate the box office traction of Warner Bros. Suicide Squad. In its fifth day at the box office, the David Ayer DC villain movie took in $14.27M, up 9% from Monday. Of course, that’s a record Tuesday in August, and as we’ve seen all along, Suicide Squad keeps whomping Disney/Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy records. That film previously owned the Tuesday high for August with $11.9M. But here’s what Suicide Squad‘s till yesterday outflanks when it comes to Tuesday highs: Captain America: Civil War‘s at $13.76M, Avengers: Age of Ultron‘s $13.1M and Batman v. Superman‘s $12.7M Tuesday.

Through five days, Suicide Squad has collected $161.1M. It will rule again in its second weekend with $51M-$54M as three wide entries enter the market — Sony/Annapurna’s Sausage Party, Disney’s Pete’s Dragon and Paramount’s Florence Foster Jenkins.

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That’s a 60%-61% decline from its August-record debut of $133.7M, and while that descent isn’t as steep as Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice (-69%), insiders point to the young crowd, those under 35, who turned up at 76% last weekend and blessed DC’s latest with an A- CinemaScore for boosting Suicide Squad‘s fortune. That’s the demo preventing Suicide Squad from being a critics’ casualty ala BvS.

On Monday, the David Ayer movie clocked $13.1M, which is the best Monday take for an August release, besting Guardians of the Galaxy‘s $11.7M on Monday, August 4, 2014."

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160. "Although the team itself was largely unknown, Suicide Squad"
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had a much stronger brand from the jump -- with Batman, The Joker, Will Smith, and Oscar heavyweights Jared Leto and Viola Davis, than did Guardians of the Galaxy. The closest Guardians of the Galaxy came to that trifecta of star power was that Rocket Raccoon was voiced by a pre-American Sniper Bradley Cooper.

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161. "Down 67%; 2nd biggest drop of recent superhero flicks"
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Second to, of course, Bats v Supes.

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162. "week 2 BO looking awful. 67% decline is stellar cause fuck this movie."
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If Wonder Woman sucks, WB needs to re-think their plans long and hard.

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163. "http://i.imgur.com/anVeCSl.jpg"
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http://i.imgur.com/anVeCSl.jpg

sausage party putting in work.

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164. "222.8 million in 10 days is a win"
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it should beat Man of Steel's final domestic numbers, and at least come close to BvS's domestic numbers. As far as international, Germany, Austria, Greece, and Japan releases coming next.

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165. "Very doubtful"
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This needs $700 to break even.

Man of Steel did $291 domestic and $377 worldwide for a total of $668.

It might make it to $300 but with a $30 (at best) million next weekend, and it's missing China and Mexico's biggest chain ain't showing it. I doubt this grosses more than $550 to $580 worldwide.

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167. "not betting, but i think $650+"
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It's at $466 right now. i'll be interested in seeing which of us is right.

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170. "found this article (and its comments section) to be an interesting read:"
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http://www.pajiba.com/think_pieces/no-suicide-squad-doesnt-need-to-make-800-million-to-break-even-.php

lolz. everyone in the interwebz is an expert these days.

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174. "It's also an impossible thing for anyone to quantify."
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Especially since studios always report that movies are never profitable. If you had back-end points on shit like Back to the Future or Harry Potter, you're probably *still* waiting to see Dollar 1.

So between studios obscuring actual costs at all costs, mis-reporting publicly what production budgets are, having no public marketing budget, and failing to declare what percent of the foreign box office they actually obtain, there's just no way to say for sure anything. I always heard for studio pictures that the general rough estimate one can usually make (which is the best anyone can usually do) is that the production budget is *also* the marketing budget-- the more they spend making it, the more they spend trying to put asses in seats. But that's still an *insanely* rough estimate, it assumes the production budget is accurately reported, etc. Tons of assumptions.

A good sign is a sequel. If they go forward with a sequel with a similar budget, then it made money. If they go forward with a sequel with a lower budget, then it was probably a wash but they saw potential for profits. If they don't sequelize it, it didn't make them the amount of money they wanted, because anything that is remotely profitable will be sequelized one way or another.

We'll ultimately see if Suicide Squad gets a sequel-- but I wouldn't be surprised. They'll never publicly report profit, but if they do a Harley movie or a Deadshot movie or a Squad sequel, that tells you what you need to know. If all of the plugs are pulled on any of those ideas, then... yeah.

Furthermore, people shouldn't be focusing on trying to spin DC box office failures. Instead, they should focus on the more terrifying truth-- that WB sliced up and Frankensteined Suicide Squad in a vain attempt to make it "more fun," and the box office was big enough that they will convince themselves that what they did worked. If anything, they will be *more* empowered to tinker with future DC movies as a result of Suicide Squad's success.

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177. "THE REAL FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THIS MOVIE"
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>Furthermore, people shouldn't be focusing on trying to spin DC box office failures. Instead, they should focus on the more terrifying truth-- that WB sliced up and Frankensteined Suicide Squad in a vain attempt to make it "more fun," and the box office was big enough that they will convince themselves that what they did worked. If anything, they will be *more* empowered to tinker with future DC movies as a result of Suicide Squad's success.


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178. "Eventually, that's gonna backfire though."
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If they mess with Wonder Woman, outside of the hardcore faithful no one will show up.

This whole summer proved a big opening doesn't mean shit.

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215. "$575.4 as of now, with two more international dates left"
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Greece and Japan.

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>it should beat Man of Steel's final domestic numbers, and at
>least come close to BvS's domestic numbers.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=dccomics.htm

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157. "Guys, that was fucking terrible"
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People in my theater were laughing at how bad it was. I think I was legit angry with my mouth agape for about 89% of the film.

Will was cool tho

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169. "I'm appalled that people want to make excuses for how bad it was"
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there's no reason warner/dc should be getting props for that bullshit.


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171. "Right? Like you said below..."
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...I get it if someone enjoyed it. I enjoy bad shit all the time. But this is a bad fucking movie.

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158. "I really enjoyed it. Had a great time at the movies. "
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It was WAAAAAYYYYYY better than BVS and Man of Steel. Does it have issues? Yeah. Is it anywhere near the level of Civil War, Winter Soldier, GOTG, or the first Avengers? No. But this was the best so far of the DCEU and it gives me hope that they can get things back on track.

  

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159. "I enjoyed it. I can tell they Frankenstein'd the cut tho. Need that ext..."
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166. "I enjoyed for the actors performances, but it IS a bad movie"
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The script is really flimsy, as is the main villain, but Will and most of the other actors make it semi enjoyable.... They spent TOO MUCH TIME on Margot Robbie..... Her backstory was cool, but given the fact we get NOTHING on Croc and Boomerang, it feels like a weird way to write an ensemble movie.... I'd love to see the director's cut though, if WB came through and made changes....

I really enjoyed Leto's Joker...made sense if you read the comics

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168. "it's bad."
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that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it if you want, that doesn't mean there weren't some elements that were good, but it's a bad movie and you can't blame it all on editing.


I've come to thought that if they had to make the movie revolve around flagg/enchantress (which for some reason never got mentioned in the trailers?)

then will smith would've been better off playing flagg, and kinnaman better playing deadshot.

I thought will did a good job, but the movie would've been better.

also, FUCK common was in this shit, why didn't anyone warn me?

that weird cuckold/pimp shit with joker should've hit the cutting room floor.

also, everything they did to make this a pg-13 movie makes no sense, if they're going to try to go dark, then go dark and get bloody, fuck.

also, while shouts on the diverse casting, no shouts to having the native dude and mexican dude be the ones that die -- native dude doesn't even get a fucking backstory or real intro.


fuck, so much shit in this movie.


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>also, FUCK common was in this shit, why didn't anyone warn
>me?

I just did a legit spit take. lol

>that weird cuckold/pimp shit with joker should've hit the
>cutting room floor.

That's up there with "Batman and Batgirl have sex" in my list of 2016's "What the fuck did I just watch?" Awards.

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173. "I was getting progressively aggravated as the movie went."
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This was garbage. I'm disappointed, because I love Will, but I feel sorry for him.

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175. "Dear 'Suicide Squad' Fans: You Deserved A Better Movie"
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Over the last two weeks, we’ve had a flurry of filmmakers and actors involved with Suicide Squad stepping up to defend the critically-reviled film. That’s fair enough, but the common thread of these defenses is that the critical reviews and box office staying power doesn’t matter because the movie was made “for the fans.” Yet, the irony of the production and post-production process is that the final version of Suicide Squad became the film it is precisely because Warner Bros. executives wanted a movie that would theoretically appeal to a wider audience. Warts and all, a “for the fans” Suicide Squad may have been a better movie. And, yes, would-be fans arguably deserved a better movie.

Whatever version of the film writer/director David Ayer had in mind went somewhat out the window when A) audiences rejected Batman v Superman after opening weekend and B) the first theatrical trailer, a tease that was much lighter and humorous in tone than the alleged work-in-progress, went over like gangbusters with audiences. Reshoots were ordered. Competing versions of the film were cut together, including one version edited together by the trailer company that cut together that theatrical teaser. A compromise cut that reeked of studio interference was released into theaters. That’s the version that got roasted by critics two weeks ago.


Whether you like the film or not, it is hard to make the case that the theatrical version of Suicide Squad is “for the fans.” At the very least, the theatrical cut was very much different than the film presumably promised by the SDCC sizzle reel that introduced the picture back in July of 2015. Instead, the theatrical cut is what the studio thought would appeal to the widest possible audience. That’s why the Joker/Harley relationship feels so neutered, why the film treats its supervillains as “But, it’s okay because they cry at opera” type softies, and why (probably for the best) the film is a Will Smith star vehicle above all else. Come what may, be it a good film or a bad film, it wasn’t for the fans.

And if you can make a “general audiences” movie that is also a good film, that’s always the best play. Suicide Squad cost at least $175 million to make plus marketing costs. You don’t make that back by appealing exclusively to the hardcore fan base of any given property. Most of the $519 million-worth of people who saw Ant-Man last year didn’t care about the Edgar Wright/Peyton Reed directorial drama, and they probably couldn’t name a single villain from the Ant-Man comic books. Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings films became blockbusters by turning audiences into fans of the movies, not by exclusively playing to fans of the original books. You don’t win elections by appealing to your base.


So the question, one which I may not be able to answer, is whether a version of the film that existed (if only in theory) before last March would have been a better film and/or had better legs after opening weekend. Presumably, that film would have been darker, grimier, and even less kid-friendly than the cut we got, but it’s not like young kids are entirely flocking to the version we got. It’s possible that these big event movies are just doomed to flame out as a matter of course in this front-loaded day-and-age. Even Captain America: Civil War earned just 2.26x its $179 million opening weekend, which is the lowest multiplier ever for a Marvel Cinematic Universe movie thus far.

So, unless your film both connects with the zeitgeist and opens in a slot without comparative competition for a while (think Deadpool or Guardians of the Galaxy), your big-budget comic book movie that scores an obscene opening weekend may not be fated for a leggy run no matter how good it is. The good news is that, in this scenario, there is no reason for a studio to try to make a version other than the one the filmmakers wanted to make. If you aren’t going to get the post-opening legs anyway, you’re better off releasing the more tonally and narratively coherent version. Suicide Squad is a huge hit, but now Warner Bros. is on the defensive regarding its reputation as a filmmaker-friendly studio.

The goal is always to make a movie that appeals to the general moviegoers while also appealing to the particular fan base. If you can find a movie that can do both, you’re halfway home. The reason for that is because, for most properties, the “fans” are the pickiest of the bunch.

Remember, the fans are the ones who complained about Tobey Maguire’s organic web shooters in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man. The “fans” were the first (and last) to complain about Daniel Craig being cast as James Bond back in the day. The fans were the first to decry Batman & Robin not just as a bad movie but as a slap in the face to comic book fandom. The comic book fans, for better or worse, are the ones who hold up the 2.5-star Spider-Man 3 as one of the worst movies ever made. Ditto the Star Wars prequels, the fourth Indiana Jones movie, and the Hobbit trilogy. No one was harder on them than the biggest of big fans.

What is odd is that this latest batch of DC fans, at least the vocal minority, have become glorified apologists. For the record, there is a world of difference between people (critics or paying consumers) who just enjoyed Suicide Squad for what it was, warts and all, and those who take it as a personal insult when a critic gives it a negative review or a box office pundit discusses its post-opening weekend flameout. You know which of the two you are. But we didn’t see hardcore comic fans defending Catwoman or Batman & Robin from critical pans back in decades’ past. You didn’t see Marvel fans saying that critics weren’t real fans (or were in the pockets of a rival studio) because they panned the first Fantastic Four or didn’t show enough love to Daredevil.

What’s changed is an “us versus them” mentality, one which may or may not be linked to the polarization inherent in the current political culture and possibly tied to the kind of hardcore fans attracted to the darker/grittier/more violent DC Films offerings. But the result is that the critics, the ones who are on the frontlines saying “DC Films can make better movies!” are being held up as the enemy by those who blindingly accept whatever scraps Warner and DC has seen fit to give them. That’s the tragedy. The filmmakers and the critics of the critics claim “it’s for the fans,” but the current DC universe is selling the fans to Humble Pie for $50 and a pack of beer.

I don’t know if a specifically “for the fans” Suicide Squad movie would have been better or performed better beyond its superb opening weekend. But if legs aren’t an issue, then there is no reason for the studio not to allow the filmmakers it hires a certain amount of discretion. Moreover, the theatrical film was not “for the fans,” but rather a compromised product that came about as a result of studio panic and short sightedness. As someone who grew up with DC Comics and devoured every book, movie, or cartoon I could get my hands on, all I want is a DC Films universe that is better than the one we’ve got. Come what may, the fans deserve a better class of superhero movie.

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> The filmmakers and the
>critics of the critics claim “it’s for the fans,” but
>the current DC universe is selling the fans to Humble Pie for
>$50 and a pack of beer.

....I don't care if I agree with their point, I'll love 'em forever.

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179. "I'm going to try and forget that I saw that shit. "
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181. "I've been waiting for someone to tell me exactly..."
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....what Enchantress's giant sky reaching magic thing was or what it was going to do.

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182. "!!? i thought i just didnt pay attention hard enough but..."
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...they really didn't explain that shit at ALL, right? lol. i think i was a lil too vexed by Enchantress' funky dancin that i didn't even notice. or maybe i thought she was gonna pop & lock the world into worship?

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183. "never explained at all, it just was."
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184. "It was a magic machine that would destroy earth's weapons and "
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technology, which was part of her plan to destroy mankind as revenge for having her trapped in the artifact June Moone found.

They definitely didn't flesh out her character and her motivations and plan were pretty generic. And the weird dancing she was doing was corny. I guess they were going for some kind of mysterious ritual. But it still made way more sense to me than Lex Luthor's plan in BVS (Lex's plan required Superman to be able to instantly track Lois from across the globe but not be able to track his mom within a couple hours in the same city.) Honestly I think Enchantress was around the same level as Ultron in AOU and that both of those films had similar villain issues, and while not "good movies" were enjoyable. Nowhere near the level of Civil War, GOTG, Winter Soldier, Deadpool, or the first Avengers, but above the level of Man of Steel, BVS, etc.

Hey, maybe I'm just stupid and have horrible taste in movies. But I liked Suicide Squad WAY better than BVS and I thought it's issues were minor execution problems and not the complete mess that everyone else seems to think. *shrug*

  

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185. "AoU was a subpar flick to me"
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and ultron himself was a poorly executed villain, but even with all that he was still james spader doing james spader things so there was something holding it together.


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187. "Exactly, that's what I'm saying. "
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You're right - Spader was able to sell Ultron a bit more with his dialogue. I also think Enchantress had a DOPE reveal with that shot of the hand.

But I still put both films in the same category of being flawed, with issues, but still enjoyable. AOU had the added point of being a bit of a letdown after seeing Avengers and Winter Soldier while my expectations for Suicide Squad were low as heck after seeing BVS which was a steaming pile of crap. It seems like everyone else puts SS on the samv level of garbage as BVS though.

  

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190. "I thought the hand part of enchantress reveal was dope"
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I have not seen BvS and can't comment, but I think while AoU was not good, it at least worked.

the storyline, the editing and the characters all followed a logical path, even if it wasn't that interesting the whole way through.

I wouldn't want to watch either one again really but I feel insulted by SS.

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186. "Did they ever state that explicitly?"
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Or are you just gathering that because it destroyed that one satellite and that one battleship? Because I legit don't remember it ever being explained.

I also don't remember them explaining why she was building an army of people or what they were for or why she was doing that. Just the usual "I hate this planet, I'm enslaving them" shit?

Either way, the explanations must've been on the cutting room floor, because I simply didn't understand.

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188. "Some of it probably was cut...it was supposed to open"
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the film with June finding the artifact that held Enchantress but they changed it and made that a flashback. Maybe there was more of Enchantress cut.

But it really wasn't that complicated. She wanted revenge for keeping her entrapped. When she summoned her brother she said that humans don't worship them any more and worship their machines, so she would destroy our machines/technology. She got her heart back from Waller and started destroying ish.

Again, she wasn't really fleshed out. It would have made more sense if the movie opened with Juin finding her and then the flashback could have been to thousands of years ago when she was entrapped, because then the revenge motivation would have been clearer. I also don't know if her plan was to straight up destroy us or to just destroy our technology to make us worship her. But I can put two and two together and I have no knowledge of her character from before this, never read any comics, etc.

  

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191. "So to answer Longo's question, no it wasn't."
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But how shitty is this film that soulfunk had to explain the villian's motivation and it still sucks?

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189. "i haven't seen the movie. Did this cut not hint at Darkseid?"
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People who saw advance screenings said Enchantress was preparing to be a part of the "new world" that was coming. Like she was clearly foreshadowing the coming of Darkseid nem, and wanted a place at the helm. Hence the slaves, etc., and the clearing away of old earth to make way for the new one.

Did they just chop this movie up to shit?

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200. "Oh man, if it was *supposed* to be that, it didn't come across at all."
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There is absolutely nothing remotely Darkseid-related that I could glean from the on-screen product.

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224. "but that was our *MAIN* *SATELLITE!* (c)"
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our = the US? the army? da earf?

>Or are you just gathering that because it destroyed that one
>satellite and that one battleship? Because I legit don't
>remember it ever being explained.
>
>I also don't remember them explaining why she was building an
>army of people or what they were for or why she was doing
>that. Just the usual "I hate this planet, I'm enslaving them"
>shit?
>
>Either way, the explanations must've been on the cutting room
>floor, because I simply didn't understand.

the explanations got blown up by a waterproof landmine that is powerful enough to also blow up 2 50 ft tall ancient demigods



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192. "5 hundo."
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‘Suicide Squad’ Shoots Past $500M At Worldwide Box Office
by Nancy Tartaglione
August 18, 2016 10:25am

Turns out 13 is a lucky number for the Suicide Squad gang. After ending their second weekend with $466M worldwide, the crew zipped past the $500M milestone at the global box office on Day 13 of release. With a total $509M, the film will help drive the overall August box office to a record high. At release two weeks ago, it became the biggest-ever August opener both domestically and abroad. It is currently the No. 11 movie of the year globally, and should jump up a couple of spots this weekend.

The North American box office total now stands at more than $238M and overseas the cume is $271M. The David Ayer-directed DC adaptation will add German-speaking markets this weekend and is likely to hang onto the top spot on the international charts for the third frame in a row. Sue Kroll, President of Worldwide Marketing and Distribution, noted today, “The film is in position for another terrific weekend as our overseas expansion continues.”

Domestically, it’s expected to be the fifth title this year to hold the No. 1 spot at the box office for three weekends in a row after Deadpool, Zootopia, The Jungle Book and Finding Dory.

The UK leads offshore markets with strong numbers also out of major plays in Brazil, Russia, Mexico and Australia. In Mexico and Korea, it has outrun the lifetime of comp Guardians Of The Galaxy and in Russia it has bested DC cousin Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice. Its second weekend hold overall overseas was down 55.7% versus BVS‘ 66% last March. The film has faced tough critics, but audiences have turned out. A great marketing set-up has also been key.

Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, Joel Kinnaman and Viola Davis lead the supervillian pic. For Smith, several of the offshore openings have been career highs, including in Argentina, Italy, the UK, Russia and Brazil.

Veronika Kwan Vandenberg, WB President of Worldwide Distribution, said, “It is incredibly rewarding to see audiences around the world coming out in such a big way for Suicide Squad. We have several major markets yet to open, and expect to continue seeing strong returns at the box office for the weeks to come.” Japan will be the final play on September 10; there’s no China in this mix.

Jai Courtney, Jay Hernandez, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Ike Barinholtz, Scott Eastwood, Cara Delevingne, Adam Beach and Karen Fukuhara also star. Producers are Charles Roven and Richard Suckle, with Zack Snyder, Deborah Snyder, Colin Wilson and Geoff Johns serving as executive producers.

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194. "This is going unanswered"
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Shocking

  

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201. "I answered it with replies #113 and #174."
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Don't really feel the need to rehash those two replies again just because it's still making money (as I said in reply #174, people should stop trying to spin it as a BO failure anyway, because it's a vain exercise).

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210. "Oh the "terrifying" post"
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193. "finally watched it. and it's safe to say film criticism is dead."
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i've lived enough to see middle aged men/women turn into social justice warriors to take down a movie

"harley quinn is not a role model"

"deadshot shouldn't be using guns in these sad times for america"

"batman raped an unconscious harley quinn"

"this movies hates gays"

"this movie is misogynist"

all that crap makes me want to throw up. this movie was dumb ass summer FUN and there's no way in hell it deserved that rating on rotten tomatoes.

It had a lame plot and had some editing issues but i'll be damned if it didn't entertain me. will smith is back, jay courtney had the role of his career, katana was smoking hot and croc was funny as fuck.
if this movie had a marvel logo on it critics would be all over it. it is what it is. but thankfully it's still making loads of money and that's a good sign.

  

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195. "I've never seen anyone say the things you're claiming."
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you must be out looking for that shit, or, you just made it up because you're THAT much of a fucking loser.

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196. "also, lol @ your takeaway being "katana was smoking hot""
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and also being upset that someone you imagined said the movie was misogynist.



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197. "No lie... everytime I saw Katana in this movie..."
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...I totally forgot she was a character in it. As a matter of fact, I forgot again until reading these posts. That's not even hyperbole. That's just a testament to how shitty a character they put on that screen was.

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198. "her crying over the sword was sooo baaadd"
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I'm like...there's no reason for me to care about this

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202. "Could you cite reviews that make these complaints, just out of curiosity..."
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"harley quinn is not a role model"

"deadshot shouldn't be using guns in these sad times for america"

"batman raped an unconscious harley quinn"

"this movies hates gays"

If any reviews made these claims, I'll gladly join the brigade of eye-rolls.

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203. "I've definitely seen the Harley/sexism criticism in a couple places."
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I dunno about any of that other stuff.

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204. "he didn't say harley/sexism. "
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he said "harley quinn is not a role model"


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205. "I left out the sexism charge intentionally. I've seen that."
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I meant the others.

I've seen the sexism charge in reviews of literally every superhero movie of the last several years, so that one doesn't really surprise me to see ever.

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206. "Alot of those complaints were made in this video"
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https://youtu.be/0bTDUAs_N5Q

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207. "are they towards the end? I'm 3 minutes in and I haven't heard one"
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they've mentioned racial/nationalistic stereotypes as far as the characters, that's the only sjw-ish thing, which the person saying it called out as sjw.

I've finished it now, I didn't catch one?

they didn't mention batman/harley, never said harley was a bad role model

nothing about deadshot in these times of america?

I didn't hear the word gay once

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208. "Yes it was the SJW part"
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I could've swore they went into that more, but it's a week or since I watched the video.

Anyways I don't give a fuck either way cause the movie is cotdamn dumpster fire set by a bunch of Juggalos at a ICP concert screaming "Woot Woot" loudly over and over again.

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the movie has a black guy who's good at shooting, a latino gangster, the only asian person is named katana and the australian guy is captain boomerang

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214. "Correction"
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>Anyways I don't give a fuck either way cause the movie is
>cotdamn dumpster fire set by a bunch of Juggalos at a ICP
>concert screaming "Woot Woot" loudly over and over again.

"Whoop whoop"

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212. "RE: Could you cite reviews that make these complaints, just out of curio..."
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/suicide-squad-s-retrograde-misogyny-the-trials-of-margot-robbie-s-harley-quinn.html

https://twitter.com/kylebuchanan/status/760506355723620353

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/08/suicide-squad-review

"the avidity of this character’s gun use comes at a really unfortunate time in the American moment"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/08/05/holy-sex-crime-suicide-squads-grim-treatment-of-batman---and-har/

"Batman responds by immediately punching her in the face, then dragging her unconscious body from the river and dumping it in the boot of his car. He leans over and administers the kind of mouth-to-mouth you can’t imagine passing muster with the Red Cross – let’s just say it looks like tongues are involved – then, when Harley comes around, he pins her to the ground, his black-gloved hand clasped around her throat."



maybe for some of them i've used my own words since i've read them a while ago, but that's exactly what they meant.

and please, take care of that unnecessary name calling i'm seeing up there since i have no business with these randoms.

  

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213. "ok so you blatantly made up "batman raped harley quinn""
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thank you for admitting that, you can decide about the reason you did it on your own.

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216. "lol the title of the article blatantly says"
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"HOLY SEX CRIME! SUICIDE SQUAD'S GRIM TREATMENT OF BATMAN"

and the article starts things off with:

"i Think the moment I realised Suicide Squad had lost me was when it looked as if Batman was about to choke-rape the heroine"



soooo...i've posted sources for all my claims, you either can't read or the fact that they're mostly accurate is driving you insane and makes you want to start some shit.

it's probably the latter since by the number of your posts is reasonable to think you're able to understand written texts.

but i ain't got time for that buddy, go play with someone from your little circle jerk here.

  

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217. "Hey remember when you said I was wrong about the reshoots?"
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment%20Sample_now_2016-08-03%2006:55:37_ehayden&utm_term=tie_internal

Don't ever question me again boy.

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Hellyeah
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218. "i'm actually not even thinking about you boy."
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bwood
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219. ""Son, they shook...""
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"Son, they shook
'Cause ain't no such things as halfway crooks
Scared to death and scared to look
They shook
'Cause ain't no such things as halfway crooks
Scared to death and scared to look"

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rdhull
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220. "Hellyeah doesnt seem to be shook..at all lol"
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>"Son, they shook
>'Cause ain't no such things as halfway crooks
>Scared to death and scared to look
>They shook
>'Cause ain't no such things as halfway crooks
>Scared to death and scared to look"

  

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bwood
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222. "He is."
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Rjcc
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221. "yeah, like you just admitted with your quotes, you made that shit up"
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it wasn't in there.

thank you for admitting that beyond just defending a shitty movie, you had to make shit up about the criticism of it.

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bwood
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199. "I'm glad the people who wave the flag for this and"
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BvS identify themselves so I know to never take your opinion on movies seriously. Ever.

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Mgmt
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211. "BvS was garbage"
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And nice attempt at lumping folks together. However the few people who are defending this movie arent flag-waving at all. The folks who disliked the movie are the ones hat are repeatedly posting and going nuts (even mutiple replying to the same indivudual posts)

  

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shygurl
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223. "I thought captain boomerang needed more boomerangs"
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For a guy named Boomerang, there was a notable lack of boomerangs.

Also, Viola Davis killed this and was absolutely the best thing about the movie.

  

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225. "it was so good to see her with a role she could dig into"
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justin_scott
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226. "I told y'all this would pull in $650 million"
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in fact, it might do even more.

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bwood
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227. "It's only at $580 worldwide"
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They still got a ways to go.

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justin_scott
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228. "i know"
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Thu Aug-25-16 09:07 PM by justin_scott

          

i didn't say it was already at $650, just that it will eventually get there worldwide. it's at $282 million in the US alone ($10 million this week), and $313 internationally, and the international figures haven't been updated since 8/21, so it's at $595 right now, and may very well be over $600 million right now, with two dates to come.


and remember, you're the one who said it wouldn't pass $580 million.

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bwood
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229. "I know what I said"
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And this joint is playing like BvS.

This thing would've been dead had it had any real competition as it was the last (and most anticipated) blockbuster of the summer.

And it looks like b.o. has been updated on Box Office Mojo. Still highly doubt it's getting to $650

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justin_scott
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230. "it hasn't been updated"
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BOM says it's at $269, but that's old. It's at $282 now, and the international data is from 8/21. At the very LEAST, it's at $595 right now. It opens in Greece tomorrow, and Japan September 10th. How much can Suicide Squad take in Japan? To oversimplify and make a lot of assumptions, I think the tone and style of the film seeming similar to a cross between Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy, the presence of Batman and the Joker, plus Katana’s presence in marketing will help the film’s prospects. I’m betting it’s capable of pulling down roughly $15+ in Japan. I’d guess it’ll take at least $10 million in Japan on the lower end of predictions, and maybe $20 million on the higher end


http://pro.boxoffice.com/weekend-forecast-dont-breathe-hands-stone-mechanic-resurrection/

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bwood
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231. "I think y'all are overestimating on Japan"
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Last major American film to do numbers over there was Cinderella and that's because they love that fairy tale shit.

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244. "$3.6 million opening week in Japan"
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so, my original projection of $10-20 million feels all but a sure thing now. btw...Cinderella did $4.7 million opening weekend.

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246. "$13.91 million so far in Japan"
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you gonna accept your various L's or no?

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bwood
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248. "Are you gonna admit you're being a hoe about this shit?"
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This garbage fire grossing too much is nothing to be happy about, but do you and keep high fiving yourself.

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justin_scott
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250. "um...i was right several times, and you were wrong"
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just take your L...or act like a child. your choice.

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bwood
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251. "Dawg your the one acting like a child"
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Coming in here just to gloat about some dumb shit like I owe you money or something.

It's almost October and you still in here going "I'm right! I'm right!" like a toddler over a garbage movie.

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Cold Truth
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253. "Nah fam. It's fair game. "
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You have a point in that the success of this isn't necessarily good for the quality of further films, but... I mean... this is a W and this shit worked out fairly well.

The financial success here is a fair bit to gloat about, insofar as one does on a message board.

  

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go mack
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232. "Apparently they cut out a lot of Leto's scenes"
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Sounded like most were him being abusive verbally and physically to Harley. It did seem funny to me how much they played up his part before the movie, his method acting, pranking the cast and then he was in it so very little.

  

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233. "Apparently they didn't cut out enough of Kinnaman's scenes"
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He stunk up the joint again

  

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justin_scott
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235. "It's now made $636 million. Told y'all"
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and STILL hasn't opened in Japan. it is EASILY hitting $650 million. Question now is will it hit $700 million. right now, it has a stronger Revenue Ratio than Man of Steel and BvS.

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236. "this having legs like this is strange to me"
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>and STILL hasn't opened in Japan. it is EASILY hitting $650
>million. Question now is will it hit $700 million. right now,
>it has a stronger Revenue Ratio than Man of Steel and BvS.

  

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Hellyeah
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237. "because word of mouth isn't as bad as some are making it out to be"
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it will easily cross the 700 million mark

  

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238. "the re-editing works. it makes the movie watchable"
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edited as a standard movie, people would walk out of this bullshit.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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239. "bwood needs to accepts his L"
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$672 million right now. it's going well over $700 million.

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240. "RE: bwood needs to accepts his L"
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What were the estimates on the cost again just for my own reference and curiosity? I still haven't seen it cuz I'm overseas now and there's no movie theaters in this country. Thanks.

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Hellyeah
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241. "175 millions + around 100 for marketing"
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it just reached the break even point

https://twitter.com/markhughesfilms/status/761312239009738752

with merchandising, product placements, dvds/blurays etc. it will bring in a nice amount of $



  

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