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"Twin Peaks coming back?!?"


          

Lynch and Mark Frost both tweeted this:

Dear Twitter Friends: That gum you like is going to come back in style! #damngoodcoffee

https://twitter.com/DAVID_LYNCH/status/518060411690569730

https://twitter.com/mfrost11/status/518060486156230656

As they just released that bluray collection, I'm at a loss for what this could be other than a sequel.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
They better not be fucking with me.
Oct 03rd 2014
1
I understand the feeling
Oct 03rd 2014
2
Actually planned on watching TP this month.
Oct 04th 2014
3
Show then Fire Walk With Me
Oct 04th 2014
4
This looks like it's actually happening
Oct 04th 2014
5
Looking like it's Showtime
Oct 05th 2014
6
I really need to watch that show.
Oct 05th 2014
7
This is insane and awesome if true. n/m
Oct 05th 2014
8
Tomorrow in the AM, we should find out
Oct 05th 2014
9
Confirmed
Oct 06th 2014
10
Dopeness
Oct 06th 2014
11
FUCK YEAH!
Oct 06th 2014
12
What's confirmed:
Oct 07th 2014
13
There are 2 different references in the show about 25 years later
Oct 07th 2014
14
http://images.dazedcdn.com/786x700/dd/1060/5/1065947.jpg
Oct 07th 2014
15
RE: There are 2 different references in the show about 25 years later
Oct 07th 2014
17
I watched it on Netflix recently and that shit blew my mind
Jan 14th 2015
20
I didn't know Major Briggs passed away
Oct 07th 2014
16
Cooper Back! (swipe)
Jan 13th 2015
18
nice
Jan 14th 2015
19
David Lynch: "Fuck you, pay me!"
Apr 06th 2015
21
I guess....sheesh
Apr 06th 2015
22
That post title is misleading
Apr 07th 2015
24
      So the salaries of his people?
Apr 07th 2015
25
           And just general production costs.
Apr 08th 2015
26
He'll wind up doing it
Apr 07th 2015
23
Him directing 9 hours of anything right now was a pipe dream
Apr 08th 2015
27
Lynch back; there will be more than 9 episodes.
May 15th 2015
28
It was a negotiating tactic
May 15th 2015
29
Per this twitter:
May 19th 2015
30
3 weeks out and we haven't seen ANYTHING
May 01st 2017
31
Agreed, the promotion for this is nonexistent.
May 01st 2017
32
I like that they're making us go in blind
May 14th 2017
33
Kyle MacLachlan was the only actor allowed to read the full script
May 15th 2017
36
just re-subscribed to Showtime for this!
May 14th 2017
34
i literally can't wait for this. in the last months rewatching the first
May 15th 2017
35
FWWM plays a big part in the new season...
May 16th 2017
37
SUNDAY. Still can't believe it.
May 18th 2017
38
Episode 1: So that happened.
May 21st 2017
39
I watched all 4 episodes. My mind is fried
May 22nd 2017
40
EP 1 definitely picked up where the season 2 finale left off
May 22nd 2017
41
Watch the movie if you get a chance
May 23rd 2017
42
Through 4 eps...
May 23rd 2017
43
My hopes were SO high for this shit
May 23rd 2017
44
So far, it has exceeded my expectations
May 26th 2017
45
      I agree!
May 27th 2017
46
first four episodes were singularly amazing (no spoilers)
May 29th 2017
47
purple room> red room
Jun 10th 2017
48
Oh my fuckin god it's...
Jun 11th 2017
49
binge watching season 1/2 this week...
Jun 12th 2017
50
All caught up (6 episodes), liking it so far
Jun 19th 2017
51
How many in here are actually watching this? Kinda surprised
Jun 24th 2017
52
folks are too busy with other shows
Jun 25th 2017
53
I am watching and I LOVE it
Jun 25th 2017
54
i was rewatching the OG.
Jun 28th 2017
59
nice bro, very nice
Jun 28th 2017
62
I'm full-on obsessed with this show.
Jun 28th 2017
60
      i'm watching the og on bluray
Jul 09th 2017
65
Episode 8. What. The. Fuck.
Jun 25th 2017
55
RE: Episode 8. What. The. Fuck.
Jun 27th 2017
56
      No new episode this weekend? Bummerrrrrr
Jun 27th 2017
57
           On the bright side, we're not even half done
Jun 28th 2017
58
           i'm glad there wasn't a new episode for a week
Jul 08th 2017
64
I've been waiting until the end of the season to make judgements.
Jun 28th 2017
61
Seems bizarre Heather Graham isn't in this
Jul 08th 2017
63
And Chris Isaak
Sep 12th 2017
109
This show might be the best use of television I've ever seen.
Aug 02nd 2017
66
I'm still watching the OG.
Aug 02nd 2017
67
Coincidentally, I rewatched the season 2 finale last night.
Aug 02nd 2017
68
      wow. that finale was insane, pure uncut lynch
Aug 02nd 2017
70
I 220% agree with this
Aug 02nd 2017
71
gf has jumped ship...she's mad cooper not back yet, too much
Aug 02nd 2017
69
I thought this was a really good article re: ep 13
Aug 08th 2017
72
Holy fucking fuck! **spolers**
Aug 13th 2017
73
Oh yeah, and
Aug 13th 2017
74
      Oh shit, and I forgot...
Aug 13th 2017
75
this shit is insane
Aug 14th 2017
76
Fire Walk With Me was sooo ill
Aug 14th 2017
77
Like a Fiiinnne Bor-Deaux, as Gordon Cole would say.
Aug 14th 2017
78
Only two weeks left...man this shit went fast
Aug 21st 2017
79
Almost caught up. Watched part 8 last night.
Aug 23rd 2017
80
I'm binging the series once it's finished...
Aug 24th 2017
81
after season 2, before season 3
Aug 24th 2017
82
      I've been seeing a lot of mentions of this 3.5 hour cut....
Aug 24th 2017
83
episode 15 was so fucking good...SO FUCKING GOOD
Aug 27th 2017
84
Episode 16...
Aug 27th 2017
85
RE: Episode 16...
Aug 27th 2017
86
they will not screw this up. I have absolute faith.
Aug 27th 2017
88
amazing episode, great fucking setup for the finale
Aug 27th 2017
87
That scene with Diane should be the subject of filmmaking classes.
Aug 27th 2017
89
      was a good example of why Laura Dern is one of my favorites
Aug 28th 2017
92
Damn, I just realized something BIG on second viewing...
Aug 27th 2017
90
      Thats what Im thinking too but...
Aug 28th 2017
91
           In retrospect...
Sep 12th 2017
108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvIfwNuCo0
Sep 02nd 2017
93
!?!
Sep 04th 2017
94
I don't think so. This is it.
Sep 05th 2017
96
      After a rewatch, I think I'm now mostly with you.
Sep 05th 2017
97
      I think they do another season.
Sep 05th 2017
98
           what would another season accomplish, message or narrative wise?
Sep 05th 2017
100
                I'd like an entire 18 episode arc of Invitation to Love
Sep 05th 2017
103
                     lmao
Sep 06th 2017
105
I previously thought that The Young Pope was here to destroy...
Sep 04th 2017
95
I liked both finales.
Sep 05th 2017
99
So, the interpretation I'm currently leaning toward is... ((spoilers))
Sep 05th 2017
101
Episode 18 left an open wound, i Can't lie
Sep 05th 2017
102
Agreed
Sep 05th 2017
104
Maybe it's the fanboy in me but it exceeded my expectations
Sep 12th 2017
106
I've watched it seven times since it aired.
Sep 12th 2017
107
A surprisingly straightforward interpretation of episode 18...
Sep 12th 2017
110
Lynch on a possible season 4 (swipe)
Sep 14th 2017
111
Lynch isn't a spring chicken
Sep 19th 2017
123
Checkout this Reddit AMA with the exec producer
Sep 14th 2017
112
just started watching this show for the first time
Sep 14th 2017
113
Did you watch the first two seasons and movie?
Sep 14th 2017
114
nope! i thought the showtime series was just a remake of the original?
Sep 14th 2017
115
      Naw. Start with Season 1.
Sep 14th 2017
116
           like start with the OG series from the 90's?
Sep 15th 2017
118
It stays weird.
Sep 14th 2017
117
      the thing is i love weird shit
Sep 15th 2017
119
           Yo this is not for you then, I think
Sep 16th 2017
120
           Yeah, there's a LOT more of that.
Sep 16th 2017
121
                for fans of the show, what is the appeal of that type of thing?
Sep 21st 2017
124
                     It's about rhythm, mood, and overall structure.
Sep 21st 2017
125
                          thanks for the explanation
Sep 22nd 2017
126
                          Also, on a less pretentious level...
Oct 05th 2017
128
i'm just happy i was able to experience the whole thing
Sep 16th 2017
122
Starting this trip myself
Oct 05th 2017
127
Why some articles called it a reboot is beyond me
Oct 05th 2017
129
Wow just finished
Oct 09th 2017
130
Watch the last two again
Oct 10th 2017
131
      I watched everything again
Oct 29th 2017
133
           Sounds plausible, but...
Oct 30th 2017
134
                My theory is Lynch and Heather Graham didn't get along
Oct 30th 2017
135
                     possible
Oct 30th 2017
136
                          they also didn't bring back the dancing midget
Nov 01st 2017
137
                               Well that's a simpler story.
Nov 01st 2017
138
                                    LOL
Nov 01st 2017
139
Frost says they're considering it but are in no hurry
Oct 29th 2017
132
May have to check Frost's book out
Nov 06th 2017
140
I bought the physcial copy of Final Dossier and the Audible
Nov 06th 2017
141
Read "The Final Dossier." *Some* loose ends are addressed there.
Nov 10th 2017
142
so many little details packed into this
Nov 10th 2017
143
Could easily be bullshit but...
Sep 30th 2019
144

inpulse
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1. "They better not be fucking with me."
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2. "I understand the feeling"
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I always knew we'd get more Star Wars in one form or another. I never thought we'd see more Twin Peaks.

  

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3. "Actually planned on watching TP this month."
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Do I watch the show and then the movie? Or the movie before the show?

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4. "Show then Fire Walk With Me"
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Don't watch the full version of the pilot until you've watched the series. I think it is the international version.

You can watch that w/ FWWM. FWWM sucks, btw.

  

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mrshow
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5. "This looks like it's actually happening"
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Harley Peyton, director of the show, has said "you won't be disappointed this time." Also seems like the announcement will be made on Monday.

  

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6. "Looking like it's Showtime"
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http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/twin-peaks-showtime/

  

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7. "I really need to watch that show."
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I was too young to care about it when it was on air and never got to it later. And it seems like one of those shows that I'd dig.

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8. "This is insane and awesome if true. n/m"
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9. "Tomorrow in the AM, we should find out"
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10. "Confirmed"
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/its-official-david-lynchs-twin-peaks-returns-in-2016-official-teaser-unveiled-20141006

  

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11. "Dopeness"
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12. "FUCK YEAH!"
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13. "What's confirmed:"
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9 episodes will air in 2016 on Showtime (the only network Lynch and Frost took it to)

Frost and Lynch had the idea 3 years ago,

Cooper is back: https://twitter.com/Kyle_MacLachlan/status/519201373209260033

  

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14. "There are 2 different references in the show about 25 years later"
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When Cooper tells his coworkers about his dream sequence in season 1, he says "I was 25 years older..."

During another dream sequence, Laura Palmer says "I'll see you again in 25 years."

How awesome is that? The show was airing in 1991.

  

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15. "http://images.dazedcdn.com/786x700/dd/1060/5/1065947.jpg"
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http://images.dazedcdn.com/786x700/dd/1060/5/1065947.jpg

  

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17. "RE: There are 2 different references in the show about 25 years later"
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>When Cooper tells his coworkers about his dream sequence in
>season 1, he says "I was 25 years older..."
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>During another dream sequence, Laura Palmer says "I'll see you
>again in 25 years."
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>How awesome is that? The show was airing in 1991.


I think they had to be, at minimum, aware of that 25 years connection.

It may explain why its coming out in 2016 rather than next year. Let's be honest, it's not like the cast is busy doing something else, and Lynch and Frost probably aren't too occupied either.

  

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20. "I watched it on Netflix recently and that shit blew my mind"
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The Showtime announcement had just been made and I was like HOW DID THEY KNOW

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16. "I didn't know Major Briggs passed away"
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That sucks. He was my fav character. He was pivotal towards the end.





  

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18. "Cooper Back! (swipe)"
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http://insidetv.ew.com/2015/01/12/kyle-maclachlan-twin-peaks/



The return of Twin Peaks has cast its star—and it’s exactly who you want.

Kyle MacLachlan will reprise his iconic role as FBI Agent Dale Cooper in Showtime’s reboot of ABC’s 1990 cult favorite drama about the murder of a homecoming queen in a small Northwest town.

The actor surprised critics by taking the stage at the Television Critics Association’s semi-annual press tour Monday, where MacLachlan handed a “damn good cup of coffee” to Showtime president David Nevins.

“I’m very excited to return to the strange and wonderful world of Twin Peaks,” said MacLachlan, dressed in a Cooper-style dark suit. “May the forest be with you.”

Series co-creator David Lynch will helm all of the nine episodes, which Showtime expects to air in 2016. Nevins wouldn’t say much about the new story other than Lynch and co-creator Mark Frost have been “very specific in promising closure, and that’s exciting.”
“From what I’ve seen, I think this going to live up to expectations—and then some,” Nevins said.

The executive said he “was kind of begging” Lynch and Frost when trying to convince them to do a reboot at Showtime. “And it felt like only way you could do it is to have David committing to
directing all of them and that’s what I was begging for,” he said.

“ something they’ve been toying with. And for David, 25 years was the magic number. There’s a reference in original, ‘I’ll see you in 25 years.'”

Nevins said Lynch seemed particular impressed by some of the Showtime executive’s “violent, weird” artwork in his office. “I think he liked that.”

  

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19. "nice"
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http://i.imgur.com/vPqCzVU.jpg

  

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21. "David Lynch: "Fuck you, pay me!""
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http://moviehole.net/201588160david-lynch-quits-twin-peaks

I hope they don't try to do it without him

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22. "I guess....sheesh"
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why does this dude still care about money...he's old and probably has plenty tucked away. smh.

That being said, like all successful directors, he has a big ego. Therefore, Showtime should know they gotta feed it to make this work.

  

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24. "That post title is misleading"
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According to the article, he is disputing the budget for the show, not his salary

  

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25. "So the salaries of his people?"
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That's noble then I guess.

  

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26. "And just general production costs."
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locations, sets, effects (conceivably), ...

  

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23. "He'll wind up doing it"
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He has nothing else on deck that can make him this much money.

  

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27. "Him directing 9 hours of anything right now was a pipe dream"
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Dude has directed two whole movies in the '00s, and he's going to direct nine episodes of TV in one year? Never going to happen. He only directed six episodes total the first time around. I also think it's a miracle if he really has nine scripts written.

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28. "Lynch back; there will be more than 9 episodes."
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He's directing the entire season.

I can't help but feel like this was a publicity thing for them to get some free press.

How do they go from Lynch leaving over budget disagreements to wanting more episodes?



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/david-lynch-twin-peaks-showtime-796083

Updated: Showtime says Lynch will direct the whole thing, which will now consist of more than the nine episodes the cabler originally ordered.
How's this for a way to start the weekend: Showtime's Twin Peaks revival is all systems go.

Following a squabble with Showtime, David Lynch announced Friday via Twitter that he has resolved his salary and budgetary standoff with the premium cable network.

"Dear Twitter Friends, the rumors are not what they seem ..... It is !!! Happening again. #TwinPeaks returns on @SHO_Network," he wrote.

Not only is the stalemate over, but Showtime has committed to producing more than the nine episodes originally ordered.

"This damn fine cup of coffee from Mark and David tastes more delicious than ever," Showtime president David Nevins said in a statement Friday confirming the news. "Totally worth the extra brewing time and the cup is even bigger than we expected. David will direct the whole thing which will total more than the originally announced nine hours. Preproduction starts now!!”

The news comes a month and a half after Lynch announced that he was exiting Showtime's nine-episode revival over a salary dispute. He originally signed on to direct the project but noted that there was "not enough money offered to do the script the way I felt needed to be done."

Showtime already had a deal in place with Lynch and co-creator Mark Frost to bring back the cult hit with star Kyle MacLachlan for a run in 2016, with sources telling THR that the scripts had already been written. For its part, Showtime at the time noted that it "continues to hold out hope" that Twin Peaks can be brought back with both its creators at the helm.

Following Lynch's outburst, the cast teamed for a video backing the beloved director that went viral as part of a #SaveTwinPeaks campaign that said doing the show without Lynch is "like pies without cherries" in a nod to the cult series.

  

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29. "It was a negotiating tactic"
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30. "Per this twitter:"
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9 episodes with episode 1 and 9 having extended running times. February 2016 might be the premiere date.

  

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31. "3 weeks out and we haven't seen ANYTHING"
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Ive never seen a show kept under wraps like this. They're not even screening it for critics until the 19th.

  

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32. "Agreed, the promotion for this is nonexistent."
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I halfway thought this was going to be sort of a pop culture event, but seems like they are content with just letting it be a cult thing.

Lynch (and Frost) must have total, complete control over this thing, which is simultaneously exciting and worrying. FWWM wasn't good, and his last movie, released 11 years ago, Inland Empire, was three hours of... to be honest, I don't even remember at this point. I just recall it being too confusing, dense, and very stream-of-consciousness - even by Lynch standards.

Wonder what Showtime is thinking at this point.

  

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33. "I like that they're making us go in blind"
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Compare how little we know about Twin Peaks compared to the new Alien and every other summer movie. I hope this starts a less is more trend when it's comes to promotion honestly.

I understand your trepidations though but I'm remaining optimistic. Frost is a really traditional and story driven writer and I think he's there mainly to make sure it doesn't turn into Inland Empire.

They released a trailer with actual footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsdRG0mJj-w

At the very least, we know shooting it on HD wasn't a mistake.

Also this guy Johnny Jewel (dude who made some of the Drive score) just released an album which has songs that will be in the new season. Nobody's sure which or how many are on there though.

http://www.thefader.com/2017/05/11/johnny-jewel-windswept-twin-peaks-chromatics

I'm guessing the soundtrack will be a combo of some of this stuff (which really have a Twin Peaksy vibe without sounding like carbon copies) and Badalamenti's new and old stuff.

  

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36. "Kyle MacLachlan was the only actor allowed to read the full script"
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they're definitely hiding some earth shattering stuff

  

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34. "just re-subscribed to Showtime for this!"
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35. "i literally can't wait for this. in the last months rewatching the first"
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2 seasons + movie with adult eyes was quite the experience.

  

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37. "FWWM plays a big part in the new season..."
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according to the Variety article.

http://variety.com/t/twin-peaks/


It's weird to be this old and this excited for a TV show.

  

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38. "SUNDAY. Still can't believe it."
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39. "Episode 1: So that happened."
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Bizarre episode, even by Twin Peaks standards.

First four eps are up on Showtime's app. Gonna dig into the second one.

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40. "I watched all 4 episodes. My mind is fried"
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How much you enjoy Fire Walk with Me still seems like the best gauge if you'll like it or not. The weird digressions, hokey humor and surreal horror are all here along with a plot that moves at a surprisingly good pace. Some really freaky shit in here.


  

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41. "EP 1 definitely picked up where the season 2 finale left off"
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I never watched the prequel movie, so I can't comment on that. It's been awhile since I binged watched Twin Peaks, but from what I recall there was a general consistency until the finale when it just drifted off to this dark and weird place. I'm not sure yet if that's a good or bad thing. With that said, I thoroughly enjoyed that first ep and am all in on the new season.

  

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42. "Watch the movie if you get a chance"
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Will help flesh some of the Agent Jeffries stuff out at the very least.

  

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43. "Through 4 eps..."
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This is some excellent uncut Lynch. I can imagine a fair number of folks would bail after episode 3 (if not 2), so I can definitely understand them putting up the first 4 right away, as 4 is the most "Twin Peaks" of the set.

And shoutout to the VFX intern that just finished the compositing tutorial in After Effects and got hired for this gig.

  

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44. "My hopes were SO high for this shit"
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I flat-out refused to let myself have any expectations

I've just tried to act unbothered about the whole "Twin Peaks back" thing, and was gonna watch it as unbiased as possible

But HOLY shit I'm loving this

Watched the 2 first yesterday, and the 3rd and 4th episodes today

There's so much to process though, but IMO this is killing thus far. I've been super entertained by these 4 eps. Wally Brando though. ROFL

  

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45. "So far, it has exceeded my expectations"
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Feels like a perfect hybrid of season 1 and Fire Walk with Me.

  

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46. "I agree!"
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Wish we got 4 eps at a time, its gonna be hard waiting another 8 days for the 5th ep only to have a weeks lapse until the 6th one drops.

SO GOOD!

  

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47. "first four episodes were singularly amazing (no spoilers)"
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Keeping up with other TV shows, no matter how amazing they are (The Leftovers), just doesn't compare to the 4 episodes of Twin Peaks that I watched over the past couple of days. There's nothing like this on TV now, nor has there ever been as far as I know, and I can't wait to see how the season plays out.

Episode 3 was a masterpiece. So perfectly done and is up there with GOAT TV episodes like International Assassin & Ozymandias. I watched the whole thing in awe.

Great start to the season and if it's already this elite I am HYPED for 14 more episodes. Kyle McLachlan is acting his ass off by the way. Amazing physical work.

If you're thinking about watching this, but haven't seen the original and are intimidated by the 30 hour commitment to catch up, I'd say start with Fire Walk With Me first, rewatch or read about the ending of Season 2, then trust in David Lynch and get ready for some weird, scary, whimsical, one of a kind TV. Damn good TV.

Hope more of PTP starts watching this, as there's a ton to discuss.

  

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48. "purple room> red room "
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that scene gave me major chills

  

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49. "Oh my fuckin god it's..."
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Diane!!!

  

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50. "binge watching season 1/2 this week..."
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shoulda been watched this but better late than never.

man, the blu-ray is crispy as fuck. And there are some fiiiiiine women on this show

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51. "All caught up (6 episodes), liking it so far"
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It's moving slowly, but I knew it would. 18 one-hour episodes is alot. I think it's very similar to season 2 so far. Hundreds of characters, all kinds of randomness, plot points that may or may not go anywhere. I'm glad that the humor really ramped up after the first couple episodes, feels more like Twin Peaks now. Brain-dead Cooper is funny, but I want the old Cooper to come back soon.

Episode 5 has been my favorite so far. The doctor's radio show was classic shit. Unfortunately I was pretty bored with episode 6 other than a couple obvious, bizarre moments.

It really is impressive to see how many great actors signed on for this. I'm hoping Laura Dern and Harry Dean Stanton get alot of screen time, but I'm not so sure.

  

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52. "How many in here are actually watching this? Kinda surprised"
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there's not more discussion.

  

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53. "folks are too busy with other shows"
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we live in the golden age for television right now...i mean i'm sure all the die hards are watching it..myself i'm enjoying it immensely..but it's also very difficult for a new viewer who isn't familiar with the first 2 seasons to get into it...

  

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54. "I am watching and I LOVE it"
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Its pure unadultered Lynch while at the same time it feels super modern and forward thinking

Love the shit out of these eps so far


The acting is CRAZY good

  

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59. "i was rewatching the OG."
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just started the new season yesterday. so far, so good.

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62. "nice bro, very nice"
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60. "I'm full-on obsessed with this show."
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And I wasn't terribly attached to the original.

I stopped watching Fargo by about the third episode because I kept deciding I'd rather rewatch the latest episode of Twin Peaks. (And I love Fargo; I'll probably shoot through the rest of the season in this Twin Peaks hiatus week.)

I've even started listening to one of those stupid babble-about-the-latest episode podcasts, and it's making me want to rewatch the original series and Fire Walk With Me.

  

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65. "i'm watching the og on bluray"
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just now finishing season 1. i love this shit.

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55. "Episode 8. What. The. Fuck."
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If that's not the most terrifying and original hour of television I've ever seen, I don't know what is.

  

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56. "RE: Episode 8. What. The. Fuck."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/arts/television/twin-peaks-season-3-episode-8-recap.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

  

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57. "No new episode this weekend? Bummerrrrrr"
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58. "On the bright side, we're not even half done"
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64. "i'm glad there wasn't a new episode for a week"
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part 8 left A LOT to process

  

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61. "I've been waiting until the end of the season to make judgements."
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Let's face it, Lynch is gonna Lynch, and I would rather wait until the season's end before I start to evaluate it. He and Frost clearly aren't concerned with the expectations of fans, media, or Showtime. This is completely and utterly their vision and execution.

That said, and obviously I look forward to this every week, but I'm sort of falling in the middle with it so far. It seems most people are absolutely loving it or hating it.

  

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63. "Seems bizarre Heather Graham isn't in this"
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Anybody hear an explanation as to why?

  

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109. "And Chris Isaak"
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Did anyone even mention Chester Desmond?

I don't remember all of what happened in FWWM, but didn't he touch the jade ring and immediately disappear?

I also remember that someone (him?) wrote "Let's Rock" on the windshield of a car, which Diane also famously said this season. Are we to take these points to mean that Chester Desmond was a tulpa? But if so, where is the real one?

  

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66. "This show might be the best use of television I've ever seen."
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It seems childish and goofy to say it as flatly as that. But I'm working hard to think of something more suspenseful, more funny, more endearing, better acted (particularly MacLachlan, Lynch, and Robert Forster), more surprising, more ambitious...

I understand why it's not getting as much attention as it deserves. Not enough people have Showtime. The incredibly slow pacing (which I love) would drive a lot of people batty. And if you haven't seen the original show you wouldn't get nearly as much out of the new one (and while the original is rightly beloved, it definitely shows its age, and it often pushed the goofy melodrama too far for my taste).

But even if you're ambivalent about the original (as I was, though at times it showed the same greatness), it's worth the investment to prepare for this.

I don't know if I want them to try for a fourth season or just work out a perfect closing to it here. My guess is they're shooting for the latter, and I expect them to deliver it, though I have absolutely no idea what that might be.

  

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67. "I'm still watching the OG."
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Bout to spark up and watch the Season 2 finale. The first season is one of the best things I've ever seen, the aesthetic is just untouchable. Shit fell off a cliff after S02E09 tho, it went from brilliantly playing with soap opera tropes to becoming a straight up soap opera.

I'm still surprised something like this was on primetime on ABC. The "Bob" stuff is creepy as fuck NOW, can't imagine how audiences reacted in 1990.

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68. "Coincidentally, I rewatched the season 2 finale last night."
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There's one scene (involving a song about sycamore trees) that gave me chills. Totally makes up for all the fluff in the second half of season 2.

Also, there are so many little ways they found to match up the new series with this episode. The 25 year wait, and the loss of a few of the original actors, obviously wasn't in their plan. But I think they found a way to turn every challenge into an opportunity.

  

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70. "wow. that finale was insane, pure uncut lynch "
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"fuck all that wyndham earle shit, we bout to do THIS" I watched this at 3 am and was transfixed from beginning to end.

the bluray is so beautiful. i got it thru illegal means but i'm definitely buying the box set


next up is the 3 hour fan-edit of fire walk with me

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71. "I 220% agree with this"
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RE: This show might be the best use of television I've ever seen.

  

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69. "gf has jumped ship...she's mad cooper not back yet, too much"
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gore/blood, too many characters/storylines/loose ends, not enough soap opera stuff....

i mean...i understand some of these complaints...this is definitely not the same twin peaks that aired back in the 90s and i don't like the direction they took for certain characters (Mr.C above all)... but each week i find myself glued to the screen and i'm sure the finale will be glorious and worth the wait.

  

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72. "I thought this was a really good article re: ep 13"
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https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/6/16105226/twin-peaks-episode-12-the-return

  

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73. "Holy fucking fuck! **spolers**"
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This shit is actually coming together.

I'm still basically bewildered about the details of what's happening, but we pretty clearly started the closing act tonight.

There was speculation that the girl who ate the frogbug at the end of episode 8 might have been a young Sarah Palmer. I guess we have confirmation of that now (or, at least, we're supposed to think we do).

And the frogbug appears to be the same (in species, at least?) as "the experiment", the creature who spat out Bob in episode 8, and who killed those poor sexy New Yorkers in episode 1.

Audrey DOES appear to exist in "the real world", I guess. I was getting really suspicious after episode 13.

What the hell does Andy know now that they haven't told us yet? Remember: Andy was the one who first realized how to find the entrance to the Red Room in the original series.

The eyeless woman from episode 1! What the fuck? I can't WAIT to find out what's going on with her. I've heard some speculation that that's Josie Packard. It's a different actress, obviously, but if they want to claim she didn't age (like Major Briggs), then they'd have to use a different actress. For those who don't remember: in the original show Josie disappeared rather mysteriously and was apparently trapped in a doorknob at the Great Northern.

The Great Northern, where there's now that weird hum. A hum that now appears to be coming from the electrical transformer. (It's been established for a while now that Black Lodge people travel around using the electrical grid.)

WTF at the random Londoner with super strength? Are he and Nadine gonna team up and beat evil Cooper at arm wrestling now?

They are not dancing around the fact that David Bowie played Philip Jeffries, and they are making Philip Jeffries absolutely central to the story. There is no confirmation that they got Bowie in even for a cameo before he died. But there have been other surprises in the cast, and if I remember right they did do most of the filming well before he died. And they made a point of getting a few other people in for at least very brief cameos. Wouldn't that be fucking something if David Bowie showed up in episode 18.

What else just happened? Holy Fuck? I'm gonna go watch this again, right now.

Oh, and "I had another Monica Bellucci dream." LMAO. Gordon Cole is my fucking hero.

  

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74. "Oh yeah, and"
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We now finally know something about what "Blue Rose" is about.

and

Janey E is Diane's sister!

Straight to Vegas for the FBI team, you'd think. But knowing how this show goes, that probably means Gordon and Dale/Dougie finally meet again maybe three episodes from now.

  

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75. "Oh shit, and I forgot..."
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Fire means electricity, according to Hawk. And electricity is how the extra dimensional beings get around. So The Fireman seems to be the one in charge of moving people around.

I'm having a little conversation with myself about this episode, lol. But there's just so much that happened here, and after such a long wait!

  

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76. "this shit is insane"
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besides Lynch's other work is there anything comparable that I should check out.

episode 8 "Gotta Light" was a masterpiece. Never seen anything like that on TV before

I can't wait to rewatch the entire series once its done

  

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77. "Fire Walk With Me was sooo ill"
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I watched the 3.5 hour fan edit. Fantastic performance by Sheryl Lee. Loved the dark vibe throughout.

Very excited to start season 3 tonight. I'm taking it slow like fine wine lol

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78. "Like a Fiiinnne Bor-Deaux, as Gordon Cole would say."
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(I don't know if he said that up to where you are, but 25 years later he really loves his fine Bordeaux.)

  

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79. "Only two weeks left...man this shit went fast"
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I'm hoping the finale is 2 hours instead of just 2 back to back episodes or something.

  

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80. "Almost caught up. Watched part 8 last night."
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off one viewing it's tied with Breaking Bad's Ozymandias as the best hour of television ever. cot DAYUM. The atomic bomb scene. The new angelo joint.

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81. "I'm binging the series once it's finished..."
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When should I watch Fire Walk With Me?

I'm thinking that I'll watch it after Season 2 but I'm not sure.

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82. "after season 2, before season 3"
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Watch the 3.5 hour fan-edit that includes the deleted scenes, one of which is damn near the best scene in the whole movie

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83. "I've been seeing a lot of mentions of this 3.5 hour cut...."
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to the effect that the deleted scenes had vital information.
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84. "episode 15 was so fucking good...SO FUCKING GOOD"
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the return was worth it for this episode alone...it was like watching FWWM all over again

  

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85. "Episode 16..."
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I don't even know what to say. Everything is perfect, nothing is predictable.

Richard Horne
(Okay, everybody predicted his identity, and in retrospect what happened to him was obvious, but I didn't see it coming.)

What the hell happened with Hutch and Chantal? There's definitely more to that story than we saw.

Dale Cooper, awake!, and back to form.

Poor Janey E and Sunny Jim. But it looks like Dougie Jones will return. And hopefully he'll be a cheap imitation of the good Dale, not the bad one.

I'm sorry for being suspicious of Bushnell. He's a good dude.

Diane...

Audrey Horne -- I was convinced she wasn't real, then they briefly convinced me she was. And then, damn.

She was in a coma at the end of the original series, and one of the leading hypotheses about her weird scenes was that she was dreaming while still in the coma. And then there was that sound when she was looking in the mirror. Earlier, Sunny Jim asked if comas were related to electricity. That was foreshadowing.

The whole thing ends next week, probably for good. And I honestly don't mind. There's A LOT more story to tell. More than could be told in the two hours that remain. They make a lot of references to the distinction between "secrets" and "mysteries." I think there are a lot of things they've kept secret over the course of the series, and a lot of mysteries that they haven't even tried to explain to themselves. Next week they'll clear out all the secrets, and leave us with the mysteries, and it'll be great.

  

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86. "RE: Episode 16..."
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>The whole thing ends next week, probably for good. And I
>honestly don't mind. There's A LOT more story to tell. More
>than could be told in the two hours that remain. They make a
>lot of references to the distinction between "secrets" and
>"mysteries." I think there are a lot of things they've kept
>secret over the course of the series, and a lot of mysteries
>that they haven't even tried to explain to themselves. Next
>week they'll clear out all the secrets, and leave us with the
>mysteries, and it'll be great.
>


This is why I'm kinda on the fence about a season 4. If Lynch and Frost think they have enough story ideas to pull it off, cool. But I've loved The Return so much that there's a large part of me that just wants them to go out on top (unless they don't stick the landing with the final two hours).

  

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88. "they will not screw this up. I have absolute faith."
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>(unless they don't stick the landing with the final two hours).

  

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87. "amazing episode, great fucking setup for the finale"
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the Diane scene was so damn good. I was geeking when Audrey's Dance came on after "Edward Louis Severson III"

  

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89. "That scene with Diane should be the subject of filmmaking classes."
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The tension they built up there was extraordinary. For weeks we've been wondering what side she was on. Then her reaction to the text, the music on her elevator ride up (a leitmotif we've heard before), the background in the elevator that looked suspiciously like the red room (as a lot of rooms in that hotel seem to...), the constant foreboding for weeks that something was gonna happen to Gordon, or Albert, or both of them, the gun in her purse, right next to her cigarettes, the way she was shaking as she spoke, like there was something she was being forced to do that she didn't want to do, Albert giving her a drink and being certain to catch a glimpse in her bag, the moment she reached in and pulled out the cigarettes...

Everybody was on their top game in that scene. It would be an absolute standout scene of any series, but in this one it has competition.

  

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92. "was a good example of why Laura Dern is one of my favorites"
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90. "Damn, I just realized something BIG on second viewing..."
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Near the end of her story to Gordon, Albert, and Tammy, Diane said what I originally HEARD as 'by the sheriff's station', so I thought that's where the coordinates that she texted dirty Dale pointed to.

But I just rewatched with CC on, and she said 'I'm in the sheriff's station'! There are a lot of people currently in the sheriff's station, but the only one with any known connection to Dale is the mysterious woman with no eyes, who's so far been referred to as Naido. Switch the o at the end for an e at the front and spell it backwards and you get Diane.

One tricky thing about this is that there have also been implications that Naido was "Judy." So is Judy actually Diane or is one of these hypotheses wrong?

  

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91. "Thats what Im thinking too but..."
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why wouldn't Laura Dern also be playing the blind creature?

  

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108. "In retrospect..."
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she also repeatedly said "I'm not me!" just before she was shot. Most people read that as a statement that she was a tulpa/doppelganger. But it probably also meant that the "I" in the sheriff's station was not her true physical form.

  

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93. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvIfwNuCo0"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvIfwNuCo0

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94. "!?!"
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I should have known the finale would raise more questions than it answers. I'm surprised at just how far away from the normal narrative it veered. I loved it though. A fitting end to one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen.

I desperately hope they figure out a way to do a fourth season, though. Or another movie. It seems pretty clear that they were trying to set up for more story.

There is another book. "The Final Dossier," a continuation of the Secret History book. Coming any day now, I think.

I'm gonna watch this a few more times before I'll feel like I really followed it. I nearly jumped out of my chair, though, when I remembered who Mrs. Tremond/Chalfont is. I can think of a dozen ways to interpret that bit at the end.

  

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96. "I don't think so. This is it."
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>I desperately hope they figure out a way to do a fourth
>season, though. Or another movie. It seems pretty clear that
>they were trying to set up for more story.

The message of the finale was pretty final, imo.

  

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97. "After a rewatch, I think I'm now mostly with you."
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I think they've set themselves up for some great stories if they continued, but I also think they'd be perfectly happy leaving it here. And I would be too. I've heard mixed reports in the press about whether Lynch and Frost wanted to do more.

If it ends here, I'll be disappointed not because I want the stories tied up. I love the fact that they've made the answers so difficult, and so far from standard narrative reach. I'll just be disappointed not to have such an incredibly well constructed thing to watch every week. I've never seen anything as beautiful as this on television.

  

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98. "I think they do another season."
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McLachlan previously said, on more then one occasion, they (Lynch, Frost, cast, etc) had been talking about doing season four, and he said he was definitely in. Sherilyn Fenn said David enjoyed doing this season and that he would do another if the fans liked this season. I've read Showtime is pleased with how the show has gained a new demographic for them, and they also expect the show to do well when awards season comes around. Apparently, the live numbers for the show aren't the best, but it has been doing very well with streaming.

I'm not buying the most recent reports since the finale that there are no talks for another season - they already said there were before.

I think after awards season they look at script, budget, etc and start trying to line up another season. I don't see it coming out anytime soon though, I think it took them like 2-3 years to do this one, no?

Regardless, the mystery of "will they do another season" is just extra publicity anyway, so why bother to make it concrete so early.

  

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100. "what would another season accomplish, message or narrative wise?"
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nothing imo. They made the statement with this finale that Laura Palmer is forever doomed, no matter if it's past or future. Evil/negative force is always prevalent and cannot be vanquished.

  

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103. "I'd like an entire 18 episode arc of Invitation to Love"
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105. "lmao"
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95. "I previously thought that The Young Pope was here to destroy..."
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... prestige television. But it was just the John the Baptist to Twin Peaks. David Lynch came to redeem us from resolution and clarity as congratulatory pats-on-the-back from show runners who share our outlooks on the world. Ambiguity is freedom now. Hooray.

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99. "I liked both finales."
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The finale works with and without episode 18, so that's why I say both. 18 is kind of an epilogue.

I'm ready to rewatch it all over again already.

Lots of good theories out there about episode 18. I mostly agree with the "Laura dream" theory.

  

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101. "So, the interpretation I'm currently leaning toward is... ((spoilers))"
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that Richard is the dreamer. Not Richard Horne. The Richard that Dale "became" in episode 18. (After whom Richard Horne might have been subconsciously named in the dream.)

The entire series was Richard's dream and travelling 430 miles and passing through a portal meant that he and Diane would (gradually) wake up as Richard and Linda. Was Linda sharing the dream? I don't think so. How does Audrey fit into this? I don't know.

But after everything changed, Dale/Richard was acting as an amalgam of the good Dale and the evil Dale. He still wanted to defend the powerless (the waitress), but he did so by immediately overpowering his adversaries (the cowboys), shooting one in the foot, and threatening everyone with an explosion. He wanted to find Laura and set everything right, and he started on that path by threatening someone at gunpoint for coordinates.

Good Dale defeating evil Dale was Richard's dream of his good qualities defeating his poor qualities.

Perhaps Richard regularly ate at Judy's diner. Perhaps he had thoughts and dreams about Carrie, the waitress he expected to see that day, that he was not happy with himself about. He associated Judy (the place) with those temptations that scared him. He was still having trouble separating the dream from the reality (it's happened to me for a few minutes after I wake from a really intense dream), and he thought Carrie might really be Laura, and that he could really take her home.

Another point, definitely intentional and possibly related to this interpretation though I think it would tie into any interpretation: Diane/Linda has hair the color of the walls of the Red Room, and fingernails alternating white and black like its floor.

Anyway, the "Richard's dream" interpretation, as I've understood it, doesn't explain how the home was owned by Mrs. Chalfont/Tremond, very ominous names that we'd seen in the "dream" space. It also doesn't explain why Carrie/Laura finally screamed at the end. Dale/Richard asking what year it was could just be more of his disorientation, but Laura/Carrie (who, if you listen closely, heard a ghostly sound of her mother going to wake her up on the morning she first went missing) screaming ... means what? Dale/Richard's imagination? Is that also why Carrie/Laura acted like it wasn't totally out of the ordinary to have a dead man sitting on her couch? If Frost and Lynch were trying to set us up for this interpretation of episode 18, perhaps the ending was meant to subvert even that bit of narrative closure.

For the record, I don't believe there IS a correct interpretation of the ending. Frost and Lynch intentionally set this up to be mysterious, impenetrable, something that could be interpreted in many ways. But I think the interpretation of the dream as being a dream of personal struggle with the meaning of heroism, is one interpretation that they were trying to point us toward.

I'm sure after three more viewings I'll be on to some other interpretation...

  

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102. "Episode 18 left an open wound, i Can't lie"
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I really really liked it, but I cant say I *loved* it cos it was so dark, so unsatisfying in a way, and so creepy

But I respect it and I really liked it, I think its dope that they chose to leave us all on that note where the discussions online have ran amok and people are 50% mad as hell and 50% happy with it

All in all this season was some of the best shit I've ever seen TV, if not the best

  

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104. "Agreed"
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>
>For the record, I don't believe there IS a correct
>interpretation of the ending. Frost and Lynch intentionally
>set this up to be mysterious, impenetrable, something that
>could be interpreted in many ways.

  

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106. "Maybe it's the fanboy in me but it exceeded my expectations"
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An accomplishment this major is pretty rare this late in a director's career. I'm not sure why I thought we'd get a happier ending when you consider how every season before it ended. I'd be totally fine with this being the end but I do think there's a good chance we'll see more episodes in a few years.

  

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107. "I've watched it seven times since it aired."
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I'm not even trying to "figure out" episode 18 anymore. I'm just letting it take me in all the different and inconsistent directions that it was designed to take me.

When I first watched eps 17 and 18, I was convinced that they were set on doing another season, just because they were blatantly leaving open such big loose ends (Audrey, Beverley & Ben, Carl, The Experiment, Judy, Sarah Palmer, Whatsisname the 'sparkle' addict who maybe shot himself in the woods, 'Red' the drug trafficker who does magic tricks and might be the grandson of Mrs Tremond from the original show...), and even opening more of them (Richard & Linda, Mrs. Chalfont/Tremond, I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting).

But by now I think that wasn't about setting up another season, it was about leaving us with persistent mysteries, ideas that we could chew on and reinterpret for the rest of our lives. It's also a statement on the dream logic that Lynch likes so much, and that in retrospect we should have seen suffusing the entire show. Dreams don't get tied up before they end.

I think they could give us another season if they really wanted to; that's another benefit of this style of storytelling. But I honestly don't think that was the plan.

There's a meme going around, I'm not sure how true it is, that in a dialect of the Chinese language, "jiao de" translates to "explanation," implying that easy answers are the great evil that would destroy this world. And that world, the show itself, seems very much a part of what they're talking about with "we live inside a dream."

The woman at the door of the "Palmer" house at the end, who called herself Alice Tremond, was actually played by the real-world owner of that house. Also, near the end of their drive, Cooper/Richard and Laura/Carrie stopped at a Valero gas station -- that was the first time a real-world logo appeared over the entire course of the show (other than maybe Diane's cigarette's; I need to recheck that). This seems to imply that when Dale stepped out of the "normal" world of the show, he was stepping into the "real" world, or something closer to the real world. The show was the dream, and the dream had come to an end.

I say this right after I said I'm not trying to figure out episode 18 anymore. Maybe I am...

But this was a fucking good show. It immeasurably exceeded my expectations, and it deserves an enormous pile of Emmys (and will probably get none).

  

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110. "A surprisingly straightforward interpretation of episode 18..."
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http://www.avclub.com/here-is-the-exhaustive-illustrated-unified-theory-of-t-1803137516

Or in more detail:

https://www.waggish.org/2017/twin-peaks-finale/

Damn, I'm just reading this longer version. The jack rabbit is the symbol of the city of Odessa Texas!

EDIT: Now that I've read the whole thing, I find a few of the points to be quite a stretch, as the writer admits. But I think he hits upon some VERY interesting points.

  

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111. "Lynch on a possible season 4 (swipe)"
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Im optimistic that this will happen in 3-5 years. Could see it being 10 episodes though.

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http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/twin-peaks-season-4-years/

In support of his “Small Stories” photo exhibition currently on display at the Belgrade Culture Centre (Kulturni Centar Beograda) in Serbia, David Lynch participated in a public Skype session projected onto the cinema screen of KCB’s jam-packed theater. It marked the first public event where he would talk Twin Peaks since the perplexing finale on September 3rd.

While taking several questions from the audience face-to-face, the director declined to reveal the fate of Audrey Horne, whose very last shot in Part 15 was both abrupt and confusing. “What matters is what you believe happened,” he clarified. “Many things in life just happen and we have to come to our own conclusions. You can, for example, read a book that raises a series of questions, and you want to talk to the author, but he died a hundred years ago. That’s why everything is up to you.” In other words, and as noticeably demonstrated by the Twin Peaks discussion forum, we are all detectives.

Whether there will be a 4th season of Twin Peaks is too early to say, he told the crowd, adding that if the series would continue, fans would have to be extremely patient. Again. “It took me four and a half years to write and film this season.”

I’ll see you again in, say, 2.5 years?

  

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123. "Lynch isn't a spring chicken"
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neither are a good portion of the cast.

I'd rather they take a year or 2 and make another movie

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112. "Checkout this Reddit AMA with the exec producer"
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Sabrina Sutherland.... YREV interesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6zb65w/im_sabrina_sutherland_executive_producer_of_twin/

  

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113. "just started watching this show for the first time"
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and have gotten through 3 episodes.

it's weird af and i have no idea what's going on. at times it's honestly a little bit irritating to watch.

does it get better or is it just not for me?

based on the reviews I'm *really* trying to like it, lol.

  

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114. "Did you watch the first two seasons and movie?"
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115. "nope! i thought the showtime series was just a remake of the original?"
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??

  

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116. "Naw. Start with Season 1."
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118. "like start with the OG series from the 90's?"
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gotdamn i fucked this up haha

  

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117. "It stays weird."
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Weird in different ways. Once Cooper/Dougie is back in the normal world, it starts to feel more like a conventional story.

But it's still told in an aggressively unconventional way, and if you're irritated by what I assume you're irritated by, then it's probably not for you.

But if you're up for something really different, really complex, and really mysterious, then it's worth every bit of effort and more.

  

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119. "the thing is i love weird shit"
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i think what irritated me a bit was the way they lingered on some of the weird stuff for an excessive amount of time.

i'm like ok, i get the point with what you're trying to do but this scene could've lasted 30 sec instead of 5 min...

the weird voices with the subtitles were also kinda meh IMO.

  

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120. "Yo this is not for you then, I think"
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>i think what irritated me a bit was the way they lingered on
>some of the weird stuff for an excessive amount of time.
>
>i'm like ok, i get the point with what you're trying to do but
>this scene could've lasted 30 sec instead of 5 min...
>
>the weird voices with the subtitles were also kinda meh IMO.


Cos honestly all those unconventional quirks and lingering scenes are SORTA Lynch's thing, and for us who are big fans all of that shit really just adds to the magic of his storytelling imo

  

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121. "Yeah, there's a LOT more of that."
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There's one infamous scene that's just a guy sweeping a floor for about ten minutes. About 10% of the FINALE is just people driving wordlessly down dark roads.

If you can go with the flow and not expect every shot to advance the plot, then it can really draw you in. But if you get antsy with that sort of thing, every episode will annoy you.

  

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124. "for fans of the show, what is the appeal of that type of thing?"
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>
>There's one infamous scene that's just a guy sweeping a floor
>for about ten minutes. About 10% of the FINALE is just people
>driving wordlessly down dark roads.

I'm not hating...I respect that people dig it. I'm just trying to understand.

  

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125. "It's about rhythm, mood, and overall structure. "
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To make an analogy: early in his career people assumed Miles Davis couldn't play because he played so few notes. But the people who came to terms with it eventually realized that he was just creating music in a different way. He was giving the listeners enough room to understand melody in a different way.

People tend to assume that movies and shows should just be about laying out a plot, telling a story. But there are so many other things that they can do. Lynch is defiantly and aggressively focusing on those other things.

The other side of this is that the plot is never really tied up in any conventional sense. People were SHOCKED (myself included) at how many loose ends he left by the time of the finale. But the point is he did so many other things so well that WE, the viewers, found ourselves lucky to be able to explore the remaining plot possibilities in our OWN minds. I initially thought there was something wrong with the finale, like Lynch was "obviously" planning on explaining the story somewhere else. But then I spent literally two weeks basically hypnotized by the things he never explained, unable to get the open questions out of my mind, and shocked at the unexpected connections that I was able to make for myself.

I'm not saying that what he's doing is revolutionary in the sense that Miles Davis was revolutionary. This kind of pacing and ephemeral plotting is pretty standard in the world of art films. But this is the first time I've ever seen anyone attempt it at this level in a long-form television series.

  

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126. "thanks for the explanation"
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n/m

  

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128. "Also, on a less pretentious level..."
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the slowness adds suspense, and adds a hell of a lot of punch to the events that finally do come.

Just today I saw someone make an analogy with some scenes in the first episode where a guy stares silently at a mysterious empty box for what appears to be his full-time job. Eventually something does happen with that box (I won't spoil it more than I already have), but it's more chilling and more intriguing because we've been wondering for all that time what it even was. And even when something did happen, we don't really know much about what it was, so we're left to think about it.

This staring at the mysterious box seems very much like it was intended as a metaphor for watching this kind of story.

  

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122. "i'm just happy i was able to experience the whole thing"
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what a time to be alive...2 weeks since the finale and i'm STILL thinking about it...sometimes i love it, sometimes i hate it, sometimes i'm sad this is (probably) the end.

nothing else on tv will ever give me the same feelings of the last 4 months...true detective and breaking bad came close years ago but there's nothing like twin peaks

  

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127. "Starting this trip myself"
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Binge watched seasons 1 and 2 on Netflix and found a bootleg copy FWwM. I'd always wanted to watch thru those, think I watched season 1 a long time ago but didn't remember much. It seems prerequisite to rewatch them again before season 3 after watching episode 1 now. I would have been hella confused. lol

  

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129. "Why some articles called it a reboot is beyond me"
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It is/was a sequel!! Apparently, Showtime made them call it "The Return."




> It
>seems prerequisite to rewatch them again before season 3 after
>watching episode 1 now. I would have been hella confused. lol
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130. "Wow just finished"
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That was amazing. I may have been slightly disappointed with the final episode for leaving a lot of questions but what a great season. This is how you bring back a beloved tv show, never seen it done better. A million times better than X-Files revival and I actually liked that too for the most part.

The fan service was so well done, the excitement when Cooper finally becomes Cooper again, nearly everything was so fun to watch. The stuff that tied in with the old seasons and the movie especially were done so ill. It makes me want to watch everything again to catch more details.

I read the log lady actress died in real life 4 days after filming her scenes. The show lost 4 actors that are in this just in 2017, Harry Dean Stanton, Albert, and Dr Hayward being the other 3 and of course Bowie who was gonna be in it but was ill so let them use footage. I think I'm with others that maybe aren't sure the show should go on but what a ride that was, so I am in if it is made.

  

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131. "Watch the last two again"
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It improves on multiple viewing.

The theory in this piece makes a fair amount of sense:

https://www.waggish.org/2017/twin-peaks-finale/

  

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133. "I watched everything again"
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and yeah, last episode makes more sense.

My only complaint on the return I would have preferred Heather Graham return as Annie. Maybe she was asked and declined, didn't hear. It seems they gave Diane her character arc when I think it would have worked better to separate them. Cooper's love interest staying Annie, having her being the one raped by evil Cooper, etc would have been more impactful and kept better continuity imo. But its a minor nitpick on an otherwise excellent return.

I will be satisfied if they end it here, especially with so many of the actors passing recently. That said, I will be back if they make more.

  

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134. "Sounds plausible, but..."
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I would have actually been a bit unsatisfied if the Diane story went over to Annie. I'm sure they would have changed elements of it, but if it progressed exactly the same way I wouldn't have found it as convincing. In the original show, Dale only knew Annie for a matter of weeks. The story we got with Dale and Diane was able to build on the idea of their decade-long working relationship and bond.

That said, it was a little weird that they seemed to add a romantic element between Dale and Diane that was never there before. So you're probably right that they might have mapped it out with Annie, maybe Wyndom Earle's wife, maybe Audrey...

Both Annie and Wyndom Earle's wife (forgot her name) also would have brought in references to the shittier parts of the second season, which they might have just wanted to wipe from the face of the Earth.

  

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135. "My theory is Lynch and Heather Graham didn't get along"
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because they brought back damn near everybody else.

  

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136. "possible"
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They also, pretty blatantly, didn't bring back Donna Hayward (either Lara Flynn Boyle or whoever it was who played her in the movie). I think I heard there was some ugliness between Boyle and Maclachlan, who dated during the filming of the original series.

They also didn't bring back Josie Packard, which honestly kinda surprised me -- they could have worked in some kind of reference to her being stuck in the lodge, and at a few points I thought that's what they were doing. I believe the actress who played her even wrote an open letter to Lynch (as her character) asking for this.

  

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137. "they also didn't bring back the dancing midget"
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what's up with that?

  

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138. "Well that's a simpler story."
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The actor who played him, in the intervening years, turned onto kind of an asshole, Twitter troll, hardcore Trump supporter with all that implies, etc. He and Lynch don't get along anymore, and I'm sure there was some fear of him saying things that would make everyone embarrassed by his presence on the show.

EDIT: Here's an article.
http://mashable.com/2017/05/22/twin-peaks-michael-j-anderson-david-lynch-man-from-another-place/

Conveniently, the last thing The Man From Another Place says in the original show was "When you see me again, it won't be me."

  

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139. "LOL"
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Well his boy Trump has done a good job of bringing out that underlying dread that Lynch depicts so well in his work...

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132. "Frost says they're considering it but are in no hurry"
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http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/twin-peaks-season-4-mark-frost-david-lynch-showtime-1201891106/

“I haven’t decided yet,” said Frost in an interview with IndieWire. “I think it’s still an open question and it’s one that we’re looking at and one that I think Showtime is musing as well.”

  

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140. "May have to check Frost's book out"
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http://wuwm.com/post/twin-peaks-final-dossier-does-what-return-didnt#stream/0

  

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141. "I bought the physcial copy of Final Dossier and the Audible"
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version of Secret History of Twin Peaks

I wish I did it the other way, the first book actually has a lot of cool visual shit unlike the new one.

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142. "Read "The Final Dossier." *Some* loose ends are addressed there."
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(Not even close to all, but that's a good thing.)

I won't even say who comes up and how for fear of spoilers. But you'll be surprised by some things, unsurprised by other things, and overall it almost feels like new Twin Peaks.

It's pretty short. Like 140 pages.

There was also "The Secret History of Twin Peaks", which came out just before the third season. That's longer and goes in a lot more directions. One cool thing about that is that it pretends to be a collection of writings by and interviews with characters from the show, and in many cases they got the same actors to read these sections in the audiobook. So it almost seems like a Twin Peaks radio play. The Final Dossier is basically all written in the voice of Tammy Preston, and she was voiced by someone else in Secret History, so I presume the Audiobook of The Final Dossier wouldn't feel quite as much like a continuation of the show.

  

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143. "so many little details packed into this"
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and not sure will ever figure everything out.

I was reading how a lot of Lynch's other movies have links in this as well. I recently watched Blue Velvet again and the stage setup for Dorothy is nearly identical to Audrey's Dance scene. The piece of flesh in the trunk somewhat similar to the ear. Lots of visuals seem Eraserhead-esque.

Also after rewatching Blue Velvet, fuck Tarrantino, stole everything from Lynch. lol Naw, but would we have Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction without BV paving the way? I'm not so sure..

  

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144. "Could easily be bullshit but..."
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there's been some whispers on Twitter about more Twin Peaks coming.

  

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