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bwood
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"American Sniper (Clint Eastwood, 2014)"
Wed Oct-01-14 07:49 PM by bwood

  

          

Trailer drops tomorrow.

As I said in the Interstellar post, if this is as good as early reports indicate, then Spielberg is gonna shoot himself in the face twice.

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*insert my trademark Eastwood skepticism/hate here*
Oct 01st 2014
1
Ditto
Oct 02nd 2014
4
yup.
Oct 02nd 2014
5
Y'all don't think Eastwood is a good director?
Oct 04th 2014
18
      He might be but lately his flicks haven't really done it for me
Oct 04th 2014
19
      He has some undeniably great films...
Oct 05th 2014
20
           Million dollar baby wasn't great?
Oct 06th 2014
21
           Nope. Great performance, not a great movie.
Oct 06th 2014
23
                Yes, it's a great film.
Oct 06th 2014
24
                I respectfully disagree.
Oct 06th 2014
25
                SMH
Oct 07th 2014
26
                it's not good
Dec 29th 2014
34
                     i agree
Jan 21st 2015
56
                I strongly disagree
Dec 29th 2014
38
           Letters from Iwo Jima is his best since Unforgiven
Dec 30th 2014
39
Did Spielburg turn it down or something?
Oct 02nd 2014
2
He was supposed to direct this and Interstellar
Oct 02nd 2014
3
      Did not know that. Thanks
Oct 03rd 2014
9
      Um. Stevie Spiel doing JUUUUST fine, breh.
Oct 04th 2014
17
Very impressive trailer
Oct 02nd 2014
6
cant even front...
Oct 02nd 2014
7
Outstanding trailer.
Oct 03rd 2014
8
Ok, I'm in.
Oct 03rd 2014
10
I've come around on Coop for the most part but that accent is iffy
Oct 03rd 2014
11
Southern accents always annoy me in movies. Always terrible.
Oct 03rd 2014
14
      Colin Farrell & Emily Blunt can pull em off pretty well imo
Oct 04th 2014
16
that trailer is better than a lot of films i've seen
Oct 03rd 2014
12
blah
Oct 03rd 2014
15
Firewall blocking for some reason. Is this the one with the kid?
Oct 06th 2014
22
I was completely taken out the movie by the
Oct 03rd 2014
13
This shit is racking up great reviews after the AFI Fest premiere last n...
Nov 12th 2014
27
Eastwood back. This is what Lone Survivor wanted to be.
Nov 16th 2014
28
That's what I waned to hear. Lone Survivor had SO much potential.
Nov 17th 2014
29
      This has some "action hero" shit as well though. It's just more
Nov 17th 2014
31
i have to see this.
Nov 17th 2014
30
It's an action movie (Spoilers)
Nov 23rd 2014
32
Meh.
Dec 29th 2014
33
At a Q & A, they said they cut that stuff down
Dec 29th 2014
35
      And this is the movie in a nutshell...
Dec 29th 2014
36
      That is, by far, the most interesting thing about his story.
Dec 29th 2014
37
Also, Chris Kyle was a piece of shit.
Dec 30th 2014
40
Yup. Lol @ them painting him as some war hero.
Dec 31st 2014
41
Boring as hell
Jan 08th 2015
42
borderline bad
Jan 11th 2015
43
This shit is gettin' an IMAX release starting Friday.nm
Jan 12th 2015
44
Holy shit @ 90 mil weekend
Jan 18th 2015
45
well jingoism and xenophobia are military culture
Jan 18th 2015
46
      like I said, I wasn't surprised
Jan 19th 2015
47
just finished it (spoilers)
Jan 21st 2015
48
Yep. Those were my two main gripes.
Jan 21st 2015
50
RE: Yep. Those were my two main gripes.
Jan 21st 2015
52
They feel safe knowing youre up there, ok Im gonna go down with them
Jan 21st 2015
54
U sure about this
Jan 23rd 2015
63
      That's what I get for believing opinion pieces.
Jan 23rd 2015
64
           Oh absolutely, its creative license.
Jan 23rd 2015
65
           I doubt he'd help matters.
Jan 23rd 2015
66
           LOL...wait, so the whole movie is like sniper fan fiction?
Jan 23rd 2015
67
                Lol
Jan 24th 2015
69
just coming in to confirm
Jan 21st 2015
57
I missed the last 30 seconds, I knew hes dead tho so I'm good
Jan 21st 2015
49
So close
Jan 21st 2015
60
i forgot about the fake baby
Jan 21st 2015
51
That was bad.
Jan 21st 2015
53
Watched it with 2 other friends, all of us laughed out loud
Jan 21st 2015
55
The writer commented on this
Jan 21st 2015
59
      but the baby wasnt necessary
Jan 21st 2015
61
           But how would you know Chris is a dad??
Jan 21st 2015
62
Shitty movie overall, but I was entertained by the war scenes
Jan 21st 2015
58
g.i. joe horseshit.
Jan 24th 2015
68
RE:well I guess i can post this now since somebody
Feb 03rd 2015
70
Wow, Eastwood made "Stolz der Nation"
Oct 05th 2015
71
RE: Wow, Eastwood made "Stolz der Nation"
Oct 11th 2015
75
Solid performance by Cooper. Shitty movie overall
Oct 07th 2015
72
It's call jingoism
Oct 07th 2015
73
but that opening scene with the russians crossing the Volga!
Oct 09th 2015
74
i don't get the hate for this movie.
Oct 12th 2015
76

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1. "*insert my trademark Eastwood skepticism/hate here*"
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I've heard every Eastwood movie will be The One for the last decade. I'm immune to Eastwood-related hype at this point.

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4. "Ditto"
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>>I'm immune to Eastwood-related hype at this point.

  

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5. "yup. "
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18. "Y'all don't think Eastwood is a good director? "
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19. "He might be but lately his flicks haven't really done it for me"
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Haven't been a fan since he had that good run in the 90's

Mystic River wasn't nearly the masterpiece most peeps had hyped it to be. After that I figured he's just not my cup of tea.

  

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20. "He has some undeniably great films..."
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... but he hasn't had one since Unforgiven. Which is now over two decades ago.

No director has been coasting more on his past than Clint. Except for Ridley Scott.

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21. "Million dollar baby wasn't great?"
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23. "Nope. Great performance, not a great movie."
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Swank deserved her accolades though-- she was tremendous.

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24. "Yes, it's a great film."
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25. "I respectfully disagree."
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Mon Oct-06-14 10:49 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

The embarrassing redneck family scenes alone knock it off the "great" peg, in my opinion.

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26. "SMH"
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34. "it's not good"
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56. "i agree"
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38. "I strongly disagree"
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39. "Letters from Iwo Jima is his best since Unforgiven"
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I haven't seen Letters in awhile, but I remember liking it very much.

  

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2. "Did Spielburg turn it down or something?"
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3. "He was supposed to direct this and Interstellar"
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After David O'Russell passed he was attached for damn near a year.

Interstellar he was attached for 7 years.

He REALLY fucked up by not doing Interstellar.

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9. "Did not know that. Thanks"
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17. "Um. Stevie Spiel doing JUUUUST fine, breh. "
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>He REALLY fucked up by not doing Interstellar.


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6. "Very impressive trailer"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZtrhRRw53Y

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dont think a trailer has ever made my heart pound and make me sit forward like that before....great trailer

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8. "Outstanding trailer."
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I've been burned roughly half a dozen times this decade by Clint, but I can't pretend it's not a good trailer. Good trailers don't mean anything, but it does raise my excitement from ice-cold to potentially-hopeful.

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10. "Ok, I'm in."
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11. "I've come around on Coop for the most part but that accent is iffy"
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Usually not bothered by em but it stood out a lot in this trailer

Looks pretty good (hurt lockerish) other than that so might give it a shot

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14. "Southern accents always annoy me in movies. Always terrible."
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The key is subtlety and they are never subtle.

  

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16. "Colin Farrell & Emily Blunt can pull em off pretty well imo"
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>The key is subtlety and they are never subtle.

Maybe it's easier for Europeans

  

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12. "that trailer is better than a lot of films i've seen"
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15. "blah"
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yes my blah is rooted in US military adventurism and representation

i'll see it when it's a dollar. Clint movies are typically boring as fuck

  

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22. "Firewall blocking for some reason. Is this the one with the kid?"
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That was a great trailer ahead of "Gone Girl"

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13. "I was completely taken out the movie by the"
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They fry you if you're wrong

But holy shit what a terrible jib to have
Deciding life or death on what yo think someone is doing

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27. "This shit is racking up great reviews after the AFI Fest premiere last n..."
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I'll be after I peep this shit on Sunday.

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28. "Eastwood back. This is what Lone Survivor wanted to be."
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Liked the sparse use of music. When it was used, it was dramatic as hell (in a very good way).

At 2 hours and ten minutes It's rushed with the drama, but it was still well done. The family stuff was kept afloat due to Cooper mostly (Ms. Miller does a great job as well, but this is Bradley's show).

The action is taught and suspenseful. Clint was directing some of this shit as if he was a young man in the game. You can clearly see the action at all times with dreadful tension.

I really liked this shit. This shit better than most "awards" movies I've seen this year.

This should do the same numbers that Lone Survivor did. Maybe better.

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29. "That's what I waned to hear. Lone Survivor had SO much potential."
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But let me down a little bit. I'm looking forward to this now. Lone Survivor was a little too much "action hero" for me.

  

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31. "This has some "action hero" shit as well though. It's just more "
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suspenseful. Most of the Iraq shit he's facing off with his Iraqi equivalent.

The more I think about the film, the weaker it gets, but like I said it's still better than most "awards" films this year. Bar none.

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30. "i have to see this."
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i'm obsessed with the lives of snipers. it has to be the most harrowing task in the military

i'm assuming this will be like the Hurt Locker of sniping...which i won't be mad at.

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32. "It's an action movie (Spoilers)"
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I was on the fence with this film. Like Foxcatcher, I felt like it told the story but there was so much ground to cover that it only covered the surface and never let us into the deeper struggles. That being said, the action scenes were tense, even if the music at times was borderline comical. It was like a horror movie cue everything Mustafa, the Syrian Sniper, appeared.

And then I learned that Mustafa was a fictional character* and, well, that really killed it for me. I can understand giving Kyle a nemesis so he isn't just going against faceless, nameless Iraqis but Mustafa played a HUGE role in Kyle's motivation in this film that it feels like this is less is more of an action film Inspired by the life of Chris Kyle. It's like Eastwood and Co. couldn't figure out how to convey the commitment and psyche of soldiers so they relied on a "But Mustafa is still out there! I must stop him!" story.

Also, the growing up section and the stuff with his brother could have been cut out. They didn't really add much of anything, especially when the brother disappears midway through the movie.

In the end, as an action movie, it's pretty solid with good action scenes but as anything more, well, there isn't more.

*There was someone named Juba, the sniper of Bagdad, who terrorized US troops but I'm not sure how much contact Kyle had with him and he certainly wasn't his arch-enemy.

  

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33. "Meh. "
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I just didn't care at the end of the day. Cooper was great but the story just didnt grab me. It's uneven, overly long, and I didn't care about Chris as an American war machine. The much more interesting stuff was the climax and his turn as someone helping others.

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35. "At a Q & A, they said they cut that stuff down"
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after he was killed. Which to me seems like an absolutely horrible decision. His working with other soldiers wasn't less important just because one of the soldiers was so far gone that he killed Chris.

Instead it becomes "I'm so bad-ass that it takes me one scene to get over PTSD and turn my life around."

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36. "And this is the movie in a nutshell..."
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>Instead it becomes "I'm so bad-ass that it takes me one scene
>to get over PTSD and turn my life around."

All the pivotal moments are so forced in with one or two scenes. Just very disappointing.

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37. "That is, by far, the most interesting thing about his story. "
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At the end of the movie, when they put up that one or two sentence explanation of what happened, I was like, "What!? I want to see that movie!"


  

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40. "Also, Chris Kyle was a piece of shit. "
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41. "Yup. Lol @ them painting him as some war hero."
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I cant believe they made a movie revering this racist psychopath.

edit, actually I can. It's Clint Eastwood.


also, Chris Kyle was full of shit.

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42. "Boring as hell"
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It'd be much more interesting if the focused on the mental aspects of the job.
The shoot em up shit got tedious real quick

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43. "borderline bad"
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the writing was soooooooo ugh.

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44. "This shit is gettin' an IMAX release starting Friday.nm"
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45. "Holy shit @ 90 mil weekend"
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biggest gross by a drama all-time (though I guess it could be argued this is as much action as drama)
Anyway the movie was about as subtle as I expected, ie not a fucking bit. I might be smh at the jingoism and xenophobia if I didn't know going in what Clint was gonna do with the story. Cooper was decent but the script didn't really force him to go very far into the dark side and despair of the character

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46. "well jingoism and xenophobia are military culture"
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i would question any movie about the american military that wasnt chocked full of OMG MURRICA FUCK YA!

  

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47. "like I said, I wasn't surprised"
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Would've liked more nuances but I don't think that was ever Clint's idea. Wonder what Spielberg would've done with the story

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48. "just finished it (spoilers)"
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the scene where he kills Mustafa was soooo bad. You got him Chris! You did it!

I was not feeling this movie at all. The beginning where he was a young boy should have been cut to make room for more about him helping other soldiers. I like how he over comes PTSD in like 5 minutes. Well it took one visit to a hospital and now he is a completely changed man. Especially when the movie makes a point of showing the effects of PTSD so early on. You see it building and building and building. Then he comes home and has 1 incident at a bbq. Goes to the VA hospital and the next scene he is cured.

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50. "Yep. Those were my two main gripes."
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1. He overcomes PTSD in two scenes. The filmmakers say it's a character piece but the main emotional issue is glossed over.

2. Mustafa was a made up character who became a huge motivation for Chris Kyle. And I think that takes away from the fog of war (anyone could be a foe; it's not just about killing one guy) and the fact that he was out there trying to protect his fellow troops, not kill one dude.

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52. "RE: Yep. Those were my two main gripes."
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>and the fact that he was out there trying to
>protect his fellow troops, not kill one dude.


That is another issue I had with Chris Kyle's character in the movie. He keeps talking about he wanted to protect his soldiers. He loves his country more than his family etc. But he keeps putting his guys at risk because of selfish reasons to go after that one guy. Whether its the Butcher or Mustafa. There was no consistency with him. You cant paint this picture of this perfect soldier then make decisions in the story telling that contradict that. Its one way or the other.

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54. "They feel safe knowing youre up there, ok Im gonna go down with them"
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Good call buddy.

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63. "U sure about this"
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>2. Mustafa was a made up character


I just listened to an old interview and he talked about an iraqi sniper on the olympic team and he said someone else on his team got him.

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64. "That's what I get for believing opinion pieces."
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Is the enemy sniper Mustafa based on a real person?

Yes, but he holds far less significance in the book, at least in relation to Chris Kyle. In the movie, Chris Kyle (Bradley Cooper) engages in a film-long pursuit of an enemy Syrian sniper named Mustafa (Sammy Sheik), whom the American soldiers refer to as "Kaiser F—in' Söze." In Kyle's autobiography, the enemy Iraqi sniper Mustafa is only mentioned in passing in a single paragraph. He is described as "an Olympics marksman who was using his skills against Americans and Iraqi police and soldiers."


Did Chris really kill the enemy sniper Mustafa?

No. In reality, Chris Kyle never actually encountered the enemy Iraqi sniper Mustafa, who he believes was killed by other U.S. snipers. Chris does make a 2,100-yard shot in the book, but it was to take out a random combatant on a rooftop who was about to fire an RPG at an Army convoy. "It was my longest confirmed kill in Iraq," writes Chris, "even longer than that shot in Fallujah."


However, my main point stands. They made Mustafa a major motivation for Chris Kyle when in reality, the two never actually met.

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65. "Oh absolutely, its creative license. "
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>However, my main point stands. They made Mustafa a major
>motivation for Chris Kyle when in reality, the two never
>actually met.


I wanted to hear his interview that ultimately got him sued, and that came up and it reminded me of your post, thats all.

I wonder how all this plays out if he were still here.

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66. "I doubt he'd help matters."
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The screenwriter said he shaped the character based off of his meetings with Kyle and felt like he was far more damaged/affected by his killing than he let on in public. But I doubt Kyle would take a kinder, gentler stance. There'd probably be a lot of "Say it to my face" to the critics. And I have no idea how he could respond to the debunked stories.

Although, before he died, there was supposedly more in the film about his work/life after the war, which would have helped the film.

It's one of my main issues with the decision to use Mustafa. It took the motivation away from him simply wanting to protect his guys (who were from attack all over, not just from one dude), the fact that anyone anywhere could be a threat (which is a huge issue with PTSD), and, in the end, he decided to not go back because he wanted to save his family. The film made it seem like he had some closure but the decision was tougher. (Or, that's how it's been portrayed in what I've read.)

I understand from a plot angle why you'd add him but the film being a character study, I think it was a bad addition.

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67. "LOL...wait, so the whole movie is like sniper fan fiction?"
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69. "Lol"
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57. "just coming in to confirm"
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>the scene where he kills Mustafa was soooo bad. You got him
>Chris! You did it!



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49. "I missed the last 30 seconds, I knew hes dead tho so I'm good"
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Call of Duty with 2 guys from Wedding Crashers.

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60. "So close"
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51. "i forgot about the fake baby"
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why the fuck was there a plastic baby used in this movie? If you guys didnt notice, it was after his son was born. They are in their house talking and his wife is carrying a fake fucking baby. A creepy ass fake baby at that. WTF CLINT!

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53. "That was bad."
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55. "Watched it with 2 other friends, all of us laughed out loud"
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59. "The writer commented on this"
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The first baby had a fever.

The backup baby was a no show.

So Clint opted for the doll.

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61. "but the baby wasnt necessary"
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it was just a prop. they could have had the same conversation sans baby

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62. "But how would you know Chris is a dad??"
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58. "Shitty movie overall, but I was entertained by the war scenes"
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the action was well-executed.

  

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68. "g.i. joe horseshit."
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70. "RE:well I guess i can post this now since somebody"
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has already said it earlier, Chris Kyle was a piece of shit. His story does not interest me at all. As a matter of fact I don't even believe him. His story sounds like it was totally manufactured. Yall do know he was murdered right?

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71. "Wow, Eastwood made "Stolz der Nation""
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I am tainted I guess because of all I read about the propagandizing the movie does before I actually saw it.

But I'd like to think I would have seen through it. Like it was super convenient that every person he killed was just about to kill American Soldiers. The movie had no moral ambiguity about the lives he took.

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75. "RE: Wow, Eastwood made "Stolz der Nation""
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I am just chuckling right now,lol. I remember how upset you were about Kingsman. That movie did nor offend me at all. I loved it and thought it was funny. You should be way more upset about American Sniper. AS is nothing but 100% racism.

Chris Kyle was a racist redneck piece of shit that was ued and he was later murdered. Shit this dumb redneck mutherfucker may not have even shot anyone. All this shit is a game. Do some research man.

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72. "Solid performance by Cooper. Shitty movie overall"
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Slow-mo bullet... really? Rival super sniper? lol.

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73. "It's call jingoism"
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They COUDL have made a movie showing war changes people and that nothing is clean.

Or maybe the script for the 1993 movie Sniper got merged in by accident and that's how they picked up the "Iraqi super sniper rival" plot??

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74. "but that opening scene with the russians crossing the Volga!"
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oh yeah right wrong movie. lol.

  

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76. "i don't get the hate for this movie."
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i don't think it was anything people have made it out to be, good OR bad.

it just was.

maybe it got all the hate because it was up for awards and whatnot.

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