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ZooTown74
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"Life Itself (Roger Ebert doc) (James, 2014)"
Sun Jul-06-14 05:23 PM by ZooTown74

  

          

A lovely and imperfect elegy to a lovely and imperfect person. Hard to watch in spots. Hilarious in other spots. Quite moving in others.

Roger was a great writer, a film-and-titty-and-booze-loving guy's guy who eventually became a gentleman, with the help of his wife Chaz, who is a beautiful black woman. Roger had two soul mates: Chaz, and Gene Siskel. His relationships with both aren't perfect, and the movie is honest about that fact, which alone makes it worthy of respect. If you've seen the YouTube outtakes of the At the Movies promos, then you already know. And there's some nice anecdotes from Marty, Ava DuVernay, Richard Corliss, and others.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, I didn't quite agree with a section that tried to equate the work of Andrew Sarris and (especially) Pauline Kael with that of a hoity-toity cinema snob, in an attempt to paint Roger as her polar opposite. I have not read very much Kael, but the stuff I read was right in line with his style of populist-yet-still-intelligent film criticism.

Y'all can hate critics as much as you need to, but I'm fitna dig into these essays on film criticism (and specifically, Corliss' essay regarding Ebert's style of film criticism for the masses) that were touched upon in the film.

Touching shit, dun. Might catch you all up in your feels.

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I loved it. Had me walking around the block & thinking about my family
Jul 06th 2014
1
Dope, appreciated, Ima check it
Jul 07th 2014
2
Chaz is gorgeous to me
Jul 07th 2014
3
Yo, the Ava DuVernay portion...
Jul 08th 2014
4
Same. Maybe the most moving part.
Jul 15th 2014
5
Terrific, as is to be expected from James.
Jul 15th 2014
6
Btw, I don't think Kael stylistically is nearly as populist as Ebert.
Jul 15th 2014
7
Good sendoff for the GOAT...anyone else curious why they
Dec 09th 2014
8
I didn't think they needed it from a narrative perspective.
Dec 09th 2014
9
      I don't disagree, but it WAS a part of Rog's life and career
Dec 09th 2014
10
           Roeper played no part in the "ascent" narrative.
Dec 10th 2014
13
                What were Roeper's comments? in general
Dec 10th 2014
14
I cried.
Dec 09th 2014
11
surprisingly I didn't, but I got close a couple times
Dec 09th 2014
12
RE: Life Itself (Roger Ebert doc) (James, 2014)
Jan 22nd 2015
15
FYI this is streaming on Netflix now
Mar 20th 2015
16

stravinskian
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1. "I loved it. Had me walking around the block & thinking about my family"
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after it ended.

By the way, for those who can't find it in a theater, it's up already on Amazon, iTunes, etc.

  

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Orbit_Established
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2. "Dope, appreciated, Ima check it"
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DVS
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Mon Jul-07-14 07:55 AM

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3. "Chaz is gorgeous to me"
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she deserves to be edified the way others have been.

I have nothing but the UTMOST respect for her.

Can't wait to see this.

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louie_depalma
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Tue Jul-08-14 11:17 AM

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4. "Yo, the Ava DuVernay portion..."
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had me choked up.

  

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Frank Longo
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5. "Same. Maybe the most moving part."
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Frank Longo
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6. "Terrific, as is to be expected from James."
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Frank Longo
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7. "Btw, I don't think Kael stylistically is nearly as populist as Ebert."
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Ebert always felt like your straight-shooting smart older brother or dad. Kael had the same sense of passion and was a game changer in her own right, but stylistically, she felt more professorial.

Nothing wrong with that, btw, and Ebert rather liked Kael (the "fuck Pauline Kael" guy is clearly someone from the outside world making a quasi-joke, but plenty of critics are up in arms, as if the movie implies Ebert felt that way about her-- which he didn't, at all). Both had clear and strong voices, but Kael did feel more like an expert, whereas Ebert felt like less of an expert and more like a guy who just happened to be smart and know a lot. If that makes sense. Someone you could have a beer with.

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Deebot
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8. "Good sendoff for the GOAT...anyone else curious why they"
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completely skipped the Roeper era? You'd think they would at least include one quote from him about Rog or vice versa. Makes me wonder if they didn't like each other.

  

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Frank Longo
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9. "I didn't think they needed it from a narrative perspective."
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Just as they didn't need to discuss anyone on the balcony post-Siskel. Just not nearly as important a part of his life.

Plus, Roeper was a pretty big dick about the movie not including him, so I'm not inclined to sympathize a great deal.

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10. "I don't disagree, but it WAS a part of Rog's life and career"
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SOMETHING interesting must have happened in that period...or maybe not, I dunno.

  

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Frank Longo
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13. "Roeper played no part in the "ascent" narrative."
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Once Siskel died, the movie correctly shifted primarily to the "decline" narrative. They could have made a passing reference, I guess. But Roeper should've been savvy enough as a critic to understand he's simply not a part of this film's narrative.

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14. "What were Roeper's comments? in general"
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11. "I cried."
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12. "surprisingly I didn't, but I got close a couple times"
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One was when Siskel's wife read the note Roger gave her after Siskel died.

  

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15. "RE: Life Itself (Roger Ebert doc) (James, 2014)"
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A touching sendoff about a man who was completely comfortable in his own skin. Ebert was frank and sinere til the very end.
Grade B+

  

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16. "FYI this is streaming on Netflix now"
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