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"BOYHOOD (Linklater, 2014)"


  

          

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I'm so fucking stoked for this film.

It's gonna be great to see the many sizes of Patricia Arquette. lol

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Nobody, I mean NOBODY is fucking with Linklater. My fave filmmaker.
Apr 25th 2014
1
He definitely one of my favs
Apr 29th 2014
4
One of the best living American filmmakers, bar none.
Apr 29th 2014
5
      Really?
Jul 21st 2014
27
           Are you pretending to act like a lame hipster?
Jul 21st 2014
29
           I'd put Boyhood, the Before films, and School of Rock...
Jul 21st 2014
31
                Haven't seen Bernie or Scanner.
Jul 23rd 2014
36
                     Hipsters ruin everything : - (
Jul 23rd 2014
38
                     He belongs over Cameron Crowe, easily.
Jul 23rd 2014
39
                     School of Rock is awesome
Jul 23rd 2014
43
                     Bernie is great but is moderately against type.
Jul 24th 2014
45
                     What about rocknroll?
Aug 17th 2014
52
                          Thanks for the thoughtful and respectful reply!
Aug 17th 2014
55
                          Dude.
Aug 20th 2014
57
                               The Who. Led Zeppelin. The Ramones. Cream. Bowie. AC/DC.
Aug 20th 2014
58
                                    You said it was one of the best movies about rocknroll.
Aug 22nd 2014
59
                                         Okay. We disagree. On absolutely every level, about this and Linklater.
Aug 22nd 2014
61
                                              hmmmm...forgive me if i'm beating a dead dog....
Aug 22nd 2014
62
                                                   What's the point?
Aug 22nd 2014
63
                          Lighten up, Denny!
Aug 19th 2014
56
                               I was talking about the in-house music.
Aug 22nd 2014
60
                     RE: Haven't seen Bernie or Scanner.
Jul 23rd 2014
44
really wanna see this--
Apr 25th 2014
2
Man...
Apr 29th 2014
3
Really long but really dope.
Jun 15th 2014
6
the process of the film's making is more interesting to me than
Jun 18th 2014
7
Those things aren't independent though
Jul 04th 2014
10
      finally saw this late last night, its pretty much been playing in a loop
Jan 10th 2015
78
Outstanding film.
Jul 02nd 2014
8
stoked to see it. Random sidebar: would love to see more films like this
Jul 03rd 2014
9
What do you mean?
Jul 04th 2014
11
RE: would love to see more films like this
Jul 17th 2014
15
RE: stoked to see it. Random sidebar: would love to see more films like ...
Aug 30th 2015
142
man i've seen a few of his films w/o even knowing
Jul 07th 2014
12
25min interview w/ Linklater
Jul 11th 2014
13
Six months in its the best film of 2014
Jul 17th 2014
14
The boy was the least interesting thing in the movie BUT
Jul 19th 2014
16
I fear Arquette will be swept under the rug come awards season.
Jul 19th 2014
17
She drove the whole film....
Jul 19th 2014
18
TIME got it right here (laink)
Jul 20th 2014
23
Oh thanks
Jul 21st 2014
34
she wasnt!
Jan 13th 2015
110
      I know, right? LMAO. The cynic in me was wrong. Thank heavens.
Jan 13th 2015
113
RE: The boy was the least interesting thing in the movie BUT
Jul 20th 2014
19
      Arquette made it seems like a documentary. That's how good she was.
Jul 20th 2014
20
      Problem is... I don't think IFC really plays the awards season game.
Jul 20th 2014
21
           Pardon my naivete, but is the Academy THAT petty and bitchlike?
Jul 20th 2014
22
           There are a myriad of problems. I'll try to bullet point.
Jul 20th 2014
24
                great post. thanks for the insight Longo
Jul 20th 2014
25
                I'm gonna go ahead and refuse to believe any of that.
Jul 21st 2014
32
           Actually...they are now:
Jul 21st 2014
26
                They're doing that right now because it's cheapest and easiest.
Jul 21st 2014
30
                     RE: They're doing that right now because it's cheapest and easiest.
Jul 21st 2014
33
                     Haven't seen Boyhood yet, but why do you think it came out in July?
Jul 22nd 2014
35
                          RE: Haven't seen Boyhood yet, but why do you think it came out in July?
Jul 23rd 2014
37
                          Sounds weird to say... but it *feels* like a summer movie.
Jul 23rd 2014
40
                               RE: Sounds weird to say... but it *feels* like a summer movie.
Jul 23rd 2014
41
                               I think I see what you're saying
Jul 23rd 2014
42
AMAZING FILM
Jul 21st 2014
28
yes
Jul 27th 2014
46
very good
Jul 27th 2014
47
snoozefest
Jul 29th 2014
48
Honest. Unflinching. Beautiful.
Aug 03rd 2014
49
Saw it again tonight. Yep. Still great
Aug 06th 2014
50
12 Years A White Boy.
Aug 16th 2014
51
LOFL. damn
Aug 17th 2014
53
LOL
Aug 17th 2014
54
Accurate, LoL...Good film in spite of it tho.
Aug 27th 2014
64
agree
Dec 18th 2014
71
Um. Single mother, struggling? Looks like my life, you bougie ass NIGGER
Dec 20th 2014
73
^^^10 Words of Cornball.
Jan 10th 2015
79
      Agreed 12 years filming a white family so ground breaking.
Jan 12th 2015
89
           The Inevitable Defeat of Mister and Pete >>>>>>> Boyhood
Jan 12th 2015
90
                Go watch Rambo w/some Janet Jackme porn nigga
Jan 12th 2015
106
                     You really expect everyone to like Boyhood?
Jan 12th 2015
107
Will this be the first Best Picture nom with Soulja Boy in the soundtrac...
Aug 27th 2014
65
Philomena
Aug 27th 2014
66
Wow.. truly great film!
Sep 07th 2014
67
RE:An honest film that everyone can relate to on some level
Nov 17th 2014
68
Absolutely nothing in this film connected with me.
Nov 18th 2014
69
I agree that the movie doesn't transcend simple nostalgia much at all
Dec 18th 2014
72
Nostalgia for what? 2004? Who cares about any of those details (tho all
Jan 10th 2015
80
      I meant nostalgia in the way of making me think of my childhood
Jan 10th 2015
82
           maybe bcuz its as much about aging, motherhood, fatherhood, manhood?
Jan 14th 2015
117
                I agree, however
Jan 15th 2015
121
^When hipster cynicism goes wrong.
Dec 20th 2014
74
Good, but I wasn't very connected/invested until the last 45 mins or so
Dec 18th 2014
70
Ah, so y'all are race baiting to shit on this? Eat dicks
Dec 20th 2014
75
settle down
Dec 20th 2014
76
Nah, I'm going in on the "whiteness" critique.
Dec 21st 2014
77
What Is? Just outta curiosity.
Jan 10th 2015
81
      Not sure yet, still need to see Selma
Jan 10th 2015
83
      to butt in. these are the ones I have above it
Jan 11th 2015
85
           Lullz.
Jan 12th 2015
86
           let's not fight...have you seen Under the Skin yet?
Jan 12th 2015
94
           RE: Lullz.
Jan 12th 2015
104
           Where the hell is Wild and Whiplash?
Jan 12th 2015
97
                haven't seen either
Jan 12th 2015
100
for posterity sake
Jan 13th 2015
111
      so dumb
Jan 13th 2015
114
      Its true, though
Jan 14th 2015
118
           cause Black only equals strugglefest till infinity
Jan 14th 2015
119
                No, negroid. Blackness is strength and perseverance.
Jan 15th 2015
120
                     RE: No, negroid. Blackness is strength and perseverance.
Jan 15th 2015
122
If of all films you chose THIS 1 to critique whiteness
Jan 11th 2015
84
who mad bro?
Jan 12th 2015
87
It took 12 years to make yet couldn't get a decent story to tell.
Jan 12th 2015
88
you shoulda listened to Mr Clark and stayed in school
Jan 12th 2015
91
i heard the Director's Cut has a great car chase
Jan 12th 2015
98
      Gonna film a kid who just graduated HS for 12 years. I update y'all
Jan 12th 2015
102
           We got a great cereal scene this morning. Apple Jax
Jan 12th 2015
103
                Update! Lost his car keys we got a suspense/thriller on our hands.
Jan 12th 2015
105
Ethan Hawker should be rehearsing his acceptance speech for best
Jan 12th 2015
92
you haven't seen Whiplash
Jan 12th 2015
93
      I have not - since you mentioned it, I suppose there's an even
Jan 12th 2015
95
      RE: I have not - since you mentioned this it, I suppose there's an even
Jan 12th 2015
96
      yeah...gonna be tough to top JK Simmons
Jan 12th 2015
99
      yeah that's a wrap. jk winnin.
Jan 13th 2015
109
Finally saw it, even better than advertised
Jan 12th 2015
101
Boyhood is garbage, I hit the eject button.
Jan 12th 2015
108
U watched on VHS?
Jan 13th 2015
115
      lol you stupid
Jan 13th 2015
116
           Someone didn't like the movie. The mob comes and picks on them.
Jan 15th 2015
124
i'm happy Patricia won that Golden Globe =)
Jan 13th 2015
112
That shitty Boyhood movie is gonna rack up some Oscars.
Jan 15th 2015
123
yeah, the 12 years thing is being overblown
Jan 19th 2015
125
You are embarassing the black race. Stop it.
Jan 19th 2015
126
      sorry to be the one to break it to you, OE
Jan 20th 2015
130
i kept expecting "something" to happen
Jan 19th 2015
127
From what I gather, this is very close to Linklater's own upbringing.
Jan 20th 2015
128
      BINGO. So you saw the movie. Good for you.
Jan 20th 2015
129
      tribute..interesting
Jan 20th 2015
131
      Word, she was totally uninvolved with the kids. Like, totally.
Jan 20th 2015
132
      *record scratch* Fuck did you say?
Jan 21st 2015
133
      yeah.
Jan 21st 2015
134
           All of this.
Jan 22nd 2015
136
                People are imbeciles and need messages shouted in their face.
Jan 22nd 2015
137
                     RE: they don't want that though either
Jan 26th 2015
139
                          People are idiots and morons. That's all they get from me.
Jan 27th 2015
141
RE: BOYHOOD is not a very enlightening film
Jan 22nd 2015
135
lol.
Jan 26th 2015
140
RE: Positive or uplifting
Aug 30th 2015
143
Shit was good. The end.
Jan 26th 2015
138
The device behind the movie is historically great, the movie itself isn'...
Aug 30th 2015
144
This review is all late, but if you get a chance...
Aug 30th 2015
145

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1. "Nobody, I mean NOBODY is fucking with Linklater. My fave filmmaker. "
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Can't wait for this.

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4. "He definitely one of my favs"
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5. "One of the best living American filmmakers, bar none."
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Grossly under-appreciated by the masses.

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27. "Really?"
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Mon Jul-21-14 03:17 AM by denny

          

I'm probly gonna be harsh here....but I just don't get the praise.

Waking Life is basically an introductionary Wikipedia's entry on a bunch of traditional philosophy that completely ignores the last 120 years of modern movements a la Peirce, Dewey, Wittgenstein, Russell et al. We really still hung up on Nietzsche and Kant? It's like a stoner got a BA in traditional philosophy and decided that a psychedelic animated film would be an AWESOME way to summarize a bunch of antiquated bullshit.

Dazed and Confused? I wish I could take a flamethrower to the entire universe of that film. There is not a single appealing thing in that entire movie to me. A bunch of spoiled brats 'finding themselves' in the suburbs. Woo-hoo.

Those stupid romantic trilogy movies? School of Rock? Slackers? This guy is not even a second-rate American director. He's overrated....I put him in the same category as John Hughes and Cameron Crowe. Sentimental slop.

  

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29. "Are you pretending to act like a lame hipster? "
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>Waking Life is basically an introductionary Wikipedia's entry
>on a bunch of traditional philosophy that completely ignores
>the last 120 years of modern movements a la Peirce, Dewey,
>Wittgenstein, Russell et al. We really still hung up on
>Nietzsche and Kant? It's like a stoner got a BA in
>traditional philosophy and decided that a psychedelic animated
>film would be an AWESOME way to summarize a bunch of
>antiquated bullshit.


LOL-

Nobody who is actually smart dislikes Waking Life. The only
people who dislike it are insecure dicks. It was a trippy,
fun movie with some weird shit in it. It looked beautiful
and and the dialogue was fun.

If that's beneath your intellectual needs, go and do something
actually smart.

Because actual smart people had fun with it.

>Dazed and Confused? I wish I could take a flamethrower to the
>entire universe of that film. There is not a single appealing
>thing in that entire movie to me. A bunch of spoiled brats
>'finding themselves' in the suburbs. Woo-hoo.

LOL -- you're a nerd.


>Those stupid romantic trilogy movies? School of Rock?
>Slackers? This guy is not even a second-rate American
>director. He's overrated....I put him in the same category as
>John Hughes and Cameron Crowe. Sentimental slop.

LOL -- oh, okay, you're joking.

  

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31. "I'd put Boyhood, the Before films, and School of Rock..."
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Mon Jul-21-14 10:37 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

... all high on the list of the best films of the past twenty years.

Bernie is also terrific, grossly underrated in the grand scheme by the masses. Dazed and Confused, while admittedly not as beloved by me as by others, is strong work. Slacker's influence is unquestioned. Waking Life and A Scanner Darkly are both at worst incredibly interesting films with strong vision behind them.

I can't think of many American filmmakers who have better bodies of work over the past twenty-five years. A few, sure. But Linklater is up there.

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36. "Haven't seen Bernie or Scanner."
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But would you agree that he belongs in the same category as John Hughes and Cameron Crowe? And why do people keep saying the word 'American' over and over when praising him? I guess people think that he captures the essence of American society or something? Seems to me that he's a scenester/pop culture nerd who loves to sentimentalize his privileged youth. I tried not to add any $10 words but I couldn't help myself. 'American' filmmaker Woody Allen covers lots of ground in these same areas...but does so with a self-awareness and cynicism that prevents him from sticking his head up his own ass.

Admittedly, I turned off 'Waking Life' before it finished. But I stand by my argument that it's basically traditional western Philosophy 101 for stoners. If memory serves, each individual vignette was a very basic summarization of a famous, very old and antiquated philosopher. At least the Washowski (sp?) bros make a narrative when they try to fuse all sorts of disparaging philosophical movements separated by era and geography in the attempts to be deep while saying nothing about any of them.

For me, Slackers is a scenester movie. In the same over-sentimental way...it's like he's trying to capture a pop-cultural 'moment in time'. And he really wants to convince you that this scene/era was really cool. Thing is....I LIKE some scenester movies. 'Kids' worked for me. 'American Graffiti' as well. Slackers and Dazed just don't ring true to me. It's the head up his own ass thing.

School of Rock is a decent family flick. I've probly seen it around 10 times because of the kids. Curious to know what makes it stand out for you? I didn't find it particular funny...the script seems pretty formulaic. Why is it in your recent top films?

  

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38. "Hipsters ruin everything : - ( "
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39. "He belongs over Cameron Crowe, easily."
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And I'm the biggest Jerry Maguire and Almost Famous fan one can find. Crowe has missed more and missed harder. In sheer numbers of terrific movies, Linklater has him beat.

Hughes is hard to talk about, because nostalgia comes into play, so I won't even try. People get hyper-defensive over Hughes. They're different types of geniuses, so it comes down to personal preference. I prefer Linklater's realism, personally, but I don't think there's a right answer there.

Re: School of Rock, it's simply the most joyous and honest mainstream children's comedy in memory-- not to mention one of the best movies about rock and roll, period. It treats the children characters with respect, it gives Jack Black the best role he's likely to ever have, the script is obscenely sharp (the only downside is the whiny girlfriend, but it's cancelled out by Cusack's tremendous work as the principal), and it has genuine heart. Not to mention the music throughout, which fucking rules. In fact, I'm going to go watch it again right now.


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43. "School of Rock is awesome"
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but calm down on best role of Jack's career shit. those belong to Nacho and Bernie

  

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45. "Bernie is great but is moderately against type."
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SoR is the ultimate harnessing of Jack Black's Jack Blackness. Bernie is probably his best acting, but SoR is the best role for him ever. If that makes sense.

Nacho Libre... nah.

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52. "What about rocknroll?"
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Sun Aug-17-14 05:57 AM by denny

          

Did you just say that?

>Re: School of Rock, it's simply the most joyous and honest
>mainstream children's comedy in memory-- not to mention one of
>the best movies about rock and roll, period. It treats the
>children characters with respect, it gives Jack Black the best
>role he's likely to ever have, the script is obscenely sharp
>(the only downside is the whiny girlfriend, but it's cancelled
>out by Cusack's tremendous work as the principal), and it has
>genuine heart. Not to mention the music throughout, which
>fucking rules. In fact, I'm going to go watch it again right
>now.say that?

The music in that movie is horrible. And sorry, if you think this is 'one of the best movies about rocknroll, period' than you don't know nothing about rocknroll, period. lol. How square are you?

  

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55. "Thanks for the thoughtful and respectful reply!"
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57. "Dude."
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Think about what rocknroll is. And then think about what you're saying about it. I don't know what perspective you're speaking from.....but it ain't mine.

'Are we there yet' isn't hip hop....and 'school of rock' is not rocknotll. Unless you are under the age of 12....in which case 'everything is everything' if you shut up and stop crying.

  

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58. "The Who. Led Zeppelin. The Ramones. Cream. Bowie. AC/DC."
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Wed Aug-20-14 02:23 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

All of these are in School of Rock.

All of these, to me, are rock and roll.

If you disagree, nothing left to discuss.

If you agree these are rock and roll, then backpedal speedily on the claim that the music in School of Rock is not rock and roll.

Not to mention, if we want to call names and be patronizing (you clearly do) I could unleash a few choice names for people who don't feel anything when they watch School of Rock. But I'm trying to remain civil and engage in actual debate instead of the always-hyper-intellectual "dude, no" counter-argument.

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59. "You said it was one of the best movies about rocknroll."
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Fri Aug-22-14 07:37 AM by denny

          

Did these songs appear as American Idol-type covers? Or were they part of the soundtrack? I'm not trying to be an asshole here....though perhaps I've failed in that regard.

I'm sure we can name a bazillion movies with soundtracks that feature those 'rock' (not roll) artists you mentioned. But you specifically gave THIS movie the 'one of the best movies about rocknroll' regards. Why? Rocknroll is deprived, gutter music about sex and booze and drugs. I suggest to you that you have undertaken a very post-rocknroll perspective of what rocknroll is about.

Big Mama Thorton and Big Joe Turner and Chuck Berry and Little Richard and Bo Diddley and Elvis Presley and Sam Cooke and Howling Wolf and Fats Domino are all stoned in a heavenly whorehouse with a cocked eyebrow right now. Y'know...rocknroll is not cuddly music.

If the kids in 'School of Rock' sniffed glue while they played a Ramones song....ok, I'd admit it's a lil bit about rocknroll. I didn't see anything like that. It watched more like upper-middle class sentimental slop that dips it's toe into rebelling against it's privileged upbringing....only to unltimately embrace that privileged upbringing in the end. Which kinda sums up a large majority of Linklater's movies. Rich kid grows hair at age 14...then cuts it when they graduate college....then yearnfully reminisces about when their hair was long.

That might be a legitimate upper-middle class experience. But it's ENTIRELY not rocknroll.

  

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61. "Okay. We disagree. On absolutely every level, about this and Linklater."
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Fri Aug-22-14 10:25 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

I really loved it, and Linklater's work, for the reasons stated.

And for the record, no, these songs are not American Idol-esque covers. They are on the soundtrack. There are, to my knowledge, two original songs, one of which is intentionally awful, and one of which is written by a middle schooler. I would suggest re-watching it, but there's no point. You've made up your mind. Which is fine.

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62. "hmmmm...forgive me if i'm beating a dead dog...."
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But why is this one of the best movies about rocknroll, period again?

Again, there's a bazillion movies with soundtracks with artists like this. I just wanna flush this out....cause I don't see how the soundtrack of a movie makes that movie 'about' the soundtrack.

The recent movie 'Chef' had a friggin killer soundtrack. Good flick. I didn't think the movie was about funk or latin-jazz music. It just had a (really good) funk and latin-jazz soundtrack.

I mean, with your understanding of the flick...and I guarantee that I've been in the presence of it's screening more times than you....what exactly does this movie 'say' about rocknroll?

  

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63. "What's the point?"
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I never said the movie was great because of its soundtrack. You said the music is terrible, and I brought up the music. You then misremembered how the music is delivered to the audience, and I corrected you.

Why would I further engage in defending the film? It needs no defense. I defend the film and what I interpret are its rock and roll qualities, you mock my interpretations and my love of the film because we don't see eye to eye, I say peace again. No progress.

I'd rather focus this post on what's really important: the exceptional film that came out this year called Boyhood. You wanna rant against School of Rock, start your own post. That'd be great, as the countless people who love the film can join in and help, whereas I've sort of lost patience with this line of convo, considering I only brought up Linklater's greatness because I want people to see this film.

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56. "Lighten up, Denny!"
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>The music in that movie is horrible. And sorry, if you think
>this is 'one of the best movies about rocknroll, period' than
>you don't know nothing about rocknroll, period. lol. How
>square are you?

Any movie that features "Moonage Daydream" by Bowie can't be classified as having "horrible" music.

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60. "I was talking about the in-house music."
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When they rehearse and perform music in the movie. And yah, it's horrible.

  

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44. "RE: Haven't seen Bernie or Scanner."
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That's why your opinion sucks. Other than that, you may have had a point. Those two movies improves his stock by a lot.

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2. "really wanna see this--"
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thats true artistry

  

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3. "Man..."
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Looks very interesting

  

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6. "Really long but really dope."
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Runs about 2:45, so be prepared.

Patricia Arquette and Ethan Hawke kill it. The kids are also great. It was cool to see not just Ellar Coltrane (the boy) but also Lorelai Linklater (his sister) grow into young adults.

This is pretty much a small-sized story of a fractured family and all of the permutations it takes in the 12 years that we see the kids growing up. Things happen, but nothing out of the ordinary or surprising. But that's okay. This is solid, episodic storytelling with super-natural (as opposed to supernatural) performances. It's a bit ironic that Linklater would choose an epic length to tell such a small story. Some of you may be bored. I was not.

Oh, I should also mention that the soundtrack does a nice job of helping establish time and place, and while the song selections are a bit obvious at times, the choices are still not necessarily as cloying as the way, say, a Robert Zemeckis would deploy them.

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7. "the process of the film's making is more interesting to me than"
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the actual set-up of the story but that very well may change after seeing it.

Either way, look forward to doing so.

  

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10. "Those things aren't independent though"
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That those things feed each other is exactly what makes
this project so brilliant

  

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78. "finally saw this late last night, its pretty much been playing in a loop"
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since on the big TV in my living room.

Like, I have not put anything else on, I might go out for a bit, step into another room, clean/cook or start messing around on a computer or listening to podcasts/music but this movie is just going on repeat since about 10 PM last night.

I'm not really watching it end to end after first viewing but at this point but just popping back in and re-watching whatever set of scenes I feel like watching him.

Really trying to maximize that RedBox rental window but I must buy this now anyway.

As you said, those two things (the process and the film itself) are by no means mutually exclusive.

And the fact that there's no real "movie arc" or dramatic plot-point stuff actually fucking enhances how real and beautiful this film really is.

You just watch time pass and folks grow/age in front of you, which is what human existence really is and despite being 2:40 minutes long like life the whole thing goes by quicker than you want it to as you're experiencing it.

"I just thought there'd be more"-Patricia Arquette rips you apart with that end scene before he leaves for college.

Ethan Hawke was better than I've ever seen him.

The kid.......I don't even know what to say, because it's still so mind-blowing to process that it's all one individual performance.

Linklater's daughter is charming.

The bizarreness of the new "man in the house" felt thru the eyes of a boy growing up as a product of divorce and stepfather's is fully felt.

Think that was more than a bit autobiographical by Richard Linklater there.

It captures that emotion more clearly than any movie I've seen and in a way that suggests it was a hard-earned insight from his own life.

Fuck best movie of the past calendar year, this is one of the greatest achievements in filmmaking I can remember ever watching (and yes I'm currently in the moment but I cant see that really dulling in my mind later).

This flick does everything that Tree of Life tried to do but without all the pretentious, mystical bullshit, just a clean/simply told story about a family via a process that's gotta be unprecedented but transcends any accusations of gimmickry or stunt-filmmaking.

Simply stunning.

This shit has me texting friends and family to make sure they watch this ASAP.

All the major players involved in this, particularly Linklater (who happened to be on WTF with Mark Maron which I played this morning while out on a morning stroll to grab breakfast so it made for a nice companion piece) but truly all of them I owe a debt of gratitude for taking on this 12-year-challenge.

They're all good money with me from here on out off this movie alone.

Whoever doesn't love this movie, I'm not sure I can really fuck with you too tough.

This is about to be a Rorschach test.

Gotta get the key girl of present focus to watch this and I'm praying she loves this at least half as much as I did and in doing so gives me the metaphorical lean over to unlock the driver side door like the fine black girl did for Colojo on their first date in Sonny's whip in "Bronx Tale".

If not, I may need to recalibrate her virtues in my internal scorecard.

Peace.

  

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8. "Outstanding film."
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I can't wait to see what scenes make people cry. It will likely be different scenes for everyone.

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9. "stoked to see it. Random sidebar: would love to see more films like this"
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with non white actors.

Cause the honest truth is the reason everyone is so stoked to see this is because it's a film all of us can relate to.

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11. "What do you mean? "
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You mean regular family dramas and shit like that?

White people aren't interested in these stories, Shawn,
and you know that.

That said, Richard Linklater been the man and I'm looking
forward to seeing this film in a way that I haven't in a long
time

To be honest, the mere fact that this is coming out has
kinda affected me, because I remember when it was announced,
and that its coming out kinda fucks me up (not in a bad way,
good too)...just thinking about time and how fast people and
things change...of course, this is part of the point of the
movie....and I'm rambling...I just had some good hummus

  

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15. "RE: would love to see more films like this"
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Have you seen the British film Everyday (2012) directed by Michael Winterbottom? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1037223/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_5
This was filmed over five years with the premise the main character Jon Simm was in prison for drug smuggling.

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142. "RE: stoked to see it. Random sidebar: would love to see more films like ..."
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Yeah. Granted the device of a young actor, male or female, being followed for a dozen years or so doesn't seem likely, but a movie like Cooley High or Fresh or Crooklyn or even Blood In, Blood Out or Menace II Society go a good job showing the emotional and interior lives of the young men and women.

There is a market for movies featuring families of color that caters to adults on the tail end of their adolescence or moving into full adulthood but movie studios don't make movies for adults that aren't Oscar bait anymore.

The best place for a family story would be on a show on a cable network trying to make a prestige show. Being Mary Jane is as close to a well-depicted family as anything else on TV, but that's only the one show.

  

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12. "man i've seen a few of his films w/o even knowing"
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Dazed & Confused
Waking Life
School of Rock
A Scanner Darkly
Bernie

all are at the very least good. Bernie was MAD underrated.

the process of this film seems hella interesting, I don't know about how invested I am in the narrative.

  

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13. "25min interview w/ Linklater"
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Richard Linklater on the Making of "Boyhood": VIC…: http://youtu.be/ofKeAi7W8NA

  

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14. "Six months in its the best film of 2014 "
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I loved it - it is the best film released so far in 2014. It is a special film which will really endure and I hope in time will be seen at home by many many people that never caught it at a cinema.

I'll come back and revise these over time as i'll be thinking about this film for a long time.

It largely felt very realistic, hyper-natural with the actors, I think some of the writing was weak (difficult to know how much was planned, written as a screenplay or improvised) but the film got a lot stronger as the film went on. Perhaps this is because the film began to focus more on MJ rather than his sister and mom. I think MJ was by the far the most complex character in the film and therefore the most interesting but he also got the most screen time (hence: Boyhood).

I found the film very amusing too, a smart sense of humour which most films lack.

The run time didn't put me off at all although, yes, it did feel long and slow at times and I like long films.

It was wonderful to see the physical changes in the characters, the deeper voice especially in MJ.

I think Ethan Hawke's character was a real journey for the actor too. From a father who wasn't responsible or around at the start to someone who really transformed themselves and deeply cared and was committed to his children by the end. I thought there was a nice line from Ethan Hawke about him turning into the type of person their mom wanted him to be from the start and if only she had more patience maybe she would have got him like that.

Patricia's Arquette's terrible relationship choices, over and over again. I guess this does happen in real life.

I was thinking throughout the film the daughter doesn't look anything like the parents or brother and then I see in the credits that its Linklater's daughter.

MJ's girlfriend Sheena aka Zoe Graham = hotness and smart.

I thought there was way too much music (songs not original score) in it especially the start. Does Linklater normally fill his films with as much music?

  

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16. "The boy was the least interesting thing in the movie BUT"
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It was a beautiful movie

That kinda seemed to become the point, which I dug: he was a fulcrum
around you could see all this other drama playing out

His sister was great....typical precocious young girl who became a
smart young woman

Arquette's performance was historic

Hawk's was goddamn good

  

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17. "I fear Arquette will be swept under the rug come awards season."
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Her last scene? Maybe the hardest and the realest in the whole film. Can't imagine any other actress SNIFFING that emotional impact all year.

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18. "She drove the whole film...."
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>Her last scene? Maybe the hardest and the realest in the
>whole film. Can't imagine any other actress SNIFFING that
>emotional impact all year.

....nobody embodied all the triumphs and trials of time like her
character

  

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23. "TIME got it right here (laink)"
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http://time.com/3005745/boyhood-patricia-arquette-ethan-hawk/

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i was wondering if folks noticed
i watched Medium and was able to pinpoint when she started lol


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110. "she wasnt!"
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yay!
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19. "RE: The boy was the least interesting thing in the movie BUT"
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>
>It was a beautiful movie
>
>That kinda seemed to become the point, which I dug: he was a
>fulcrum
>around you could see all this other drama playing out
>
>His sister was great....typical precocious young girl who
>became a
>smart young woman
>
>Arquette's performance was historic
>
>Hawk's was goddamn good

I keep hearing from folk who've already seen Boyhood to just give Arquette ALL the oscars now...RIGHT NOW. Like, even if DA GAWD Streep showed up this awards season, Arquette has literally turned in one of the most powerful performances of recent note...

like, a friend of mine who lives in London who saw this over the weekend CALLED ME on the phone to tell me how powerful it was and ran HIS bill up for a good two hours talking about how great it was and why Hollywood needs to make more family dramas...you explained why they won't above.

I can't WAIT...I was in FULL OUT GEEK MODE when I heard Linklater was going this a decade or so ago...

now it's out and I can't wait to see this. This was tops on my list of summer movies to watch and I'm chomping at the bit for it to play out here in Pittsburgh...

glad folk love the movie...

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20. "Arquette made it seems like a documentary. That's how good she was. "
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Everyone else was just acting real real good

Hawke was touching and charming, but he was acting, and
really fucking well

Arquette was something else, though

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21. "Problem is... I don't think IFC really plays the awards season game."
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Generally a movie like Boyhood is looking at screenplay at best unless the studio puts some real money into the awards season marketing campaign... and I really doubt IFC spends the money on Boyhood. I really hope I'm proven wrong.

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22. "Pardon my naivete, but is the Academy THAT petty and bitchlike? "
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>Generally a movie like Boyhood is looking at screenplay at
>best unless the studio puts some real money into the awards
>season marketing campaign... and I really doubt IFC spends the
>money on Boyhood. I really hope I'm proven wrong.

Are they really that full of hoe sauce?

Like, they don't award unless you bend over like that?

  

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24. "There are a myriad of problems. I'll try to bullet point."
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- First and foremost, to win, the Academy must *see* the movie. And many Academy members, the majority of whom are white men over 50, are too busy/too indifferent to see every movie they hear buzz about. So they prioritize. They see "events" first and foremost. They want to know what is most likely to win, and they want to have an opinion on those films. This helps those backed by major studios, but this is precisely why the indie critical darlings/truly fucking great movies often fall by the wayside. Because...

- In order to get "buzz" and become an "event," you need to run a hardcore publicity campaign to keep people talking. You need DVD screeners sent to every single Academy member, Guild member, and critics group. You need For Your Consideration advertisements in magazines, billboards, TV commercials to air in Los Angeles markets, etc. And in order to get those, you need money-- the types of money that only major studios can really afford to spend.

- There's also a glamor problem. Academy members are more likely to see your movie if (a) there's someone they know in it, or (b) there's a "name" attached that draws people in. Those are two problems Boyhood has. (A) It has a cast of, what, like 4-10 people, really? How can that compete against the ensemble dramedies and war epics that have tons of people that everyone recognizes and loves? (B) If an Academy member has to choose between the Boyhood screening with Linklater and Hawke in the house, or the screening of Unbroken with Angelina Jolie in the house, 99% are going to Unbroken first.

- Finally, the movie is not terribly "showy." The majority of the Academy likes movies with big acting, first and foremost (hence, why DDL and David O Russell actors get accolades). It's a small cast with mostly understated acting. (Which is why Linklater's movies generally settle for Best Screenplay nominations-- writers appreciate the difficulty of the execution, but actors don't see the "big choices" being made as often. This is a grand generalization, but the more I talk to people out here, the more I believe it to be true.)

Boyhood is a phenomenal movie. It's also a small cast film with a small budget from a tiny studio that likely won't run a big campaign on its behalf, so when the hammy David O Russell movie comes out or some stiff regency costume drama comes out, don't be surprised when they scoop all the nominations and Boyhood is stuck with one or two at best.

Arquette has the best chance for an acting nod, because she has The Scene (general rule of thumb in trying to predict what actors get Academy noms: pick their most dramatic scene and determine if it's bigger and more memorable than the others)... but it depends on competition. Last year, Octavia Spencer in Fruitvale Station had The Weinsteins behind her and one HELL of a scene in which she prayed for her dying child. But The Weinsteins decided they'd spend their money to back other potential nominees, and for that reason ALONE, Spencer was left nom-less.

This year, there will be new films with Meryl Streep, Jessica Chastain (two!), Viola Davis, Octavia Spencer, Naomi Watts, Vanessa Redgrave, Emma Thompson, and Rooney Mara all in supporting roles backed by studios more willing to spend than IFC likely will be.

I hope this helps illuminate why I'm skeptical of Arquette, Boyhood in general, and indies from smaller studios in general every Oscar season.

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25. "great post. thanks for the insight Longo"
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yall really make me want to see this

  

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32. "I'm gonna go ahead and refuse to believe any of that."
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You're obviously telling the truth, but that is
the most arbitrary hoe-like shit I've ever read about

I thought the Nobel Prizes were given out on some bullshit

Bwahahahahaha @ merit in ANYTHING that ain't sports,
and even THERE

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26. "Actually...they are now:"
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http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/boyhood-sets-off-on-awards-trek-with-strong-packed-weekend-screenings-for-oscar-and-sag-voters/

We are still a little more than a month away from the official start of awards season , but for IFC’s smash-out-of-the-box indie hit , Boyhood it already began in earnest on Sunday with back to back screenings and Q&As for members of the newly chosen 2000-strong Screen Actors Guild Nominating Committee, and later its official Academy screening at the newly re-opened Samuel Goldwyn Theatre at the Acad’s Beverly Hills headquarters. The SAG nom comm is just beginning its long schedule of these kinds of screenings and Sunday afternoon’s was the first big one in L.A. , although I am told there were a couple of smaller films for the nom comm early in June just as the randomly-chosen group of actors was formed for this year’s race. They packed the Pacific Design Center’s screening room and after the Q&A with stars Patricia Arquette, Ethan Hawke and young Ellar Coltrane along with writer/director Richard Linklater, the SAG crowd gave them all a heartfelt standing ovation. I moderated boyhood-posterand there was also much applause when I brought each of them on stage for the 40 minute conversation. The making of the film on 36 shooting days over the course of 12 years has been a well-publicized story this summer and each of them offered detailed answers on various aspects of a film that is unique in motion picture history, particularly from the point of view of actors making a movie one week a year for a decade. Towards the end of the session one audience member wanted to know if the group was up for trying this again in some shape or form. Maybe even a sequel? Linklater didn’t dismiss the idea but Arquette who is in the midst of a promotional blitz just getting this one open said to big laughs from the audience, “you don’t ask a lady in the middle of childbirth, ‘hey are you thinking about Image (2) IFC-Films__120127203302-200x56.jpg for post 421310having another baby?’” Another question about the logistics of getting financial backing for the seemingly risky experiment drew a response from Linklater that he was grateful to IFC for taking the leap of faith with them all those years ago. He said he never worried about any of the cast or principals not finishing the project but ironically noted that it was especially significant in an industry known for constant executive suite changes that Jonathan Sehring, the man who greenlit the film, was also still in that job 12 years later.

The original plan for the release of the film , which has so far earned just under $2 million in 10 days for a $35, 230 per screen averageBoyhood Patricia Arquette Ethan Hawke after jumping from 5 to 34 theatres, was to go very slowly before hitting a much larger number of screens toward the end of August as students go back to school. But IFC is getting heavy pressure from theatre owners to expand now, particularly with the mounds of publicity it has been getting. Next weekend it should be in north of 125 screens but Linklater told me they still intend to take it slow, or so he hopes. He knows it not only has the strong support of IFC , but also parent company AMC Networks and its head Josh Sapan. Indeed this one is a marathon, not a sprint. The actors have also been doing in-theatre q&as over both weekends so far. In fact Hawke told me he did one at the Hollywood Arclight Saturday night where the film is so popular it has been outgrossing Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes there. They moved the prime show into the much larger 900+ seat Cinerama Dome and knocked Apes off that screen for the screening/Hawke Q&A.

As for the Motion Picture Academy screening later Sunday afternoon, I am told by one audience member who attended that it was “packed”. Another told me it was about 70% full although I hear it was more full than that, that the reaction was very strong, and it went over “really well” with the Oscar crowd who seemed pumped to see what all the talk was about the critically acclaimed movie which currently stands at 99% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes and is the first film this year to receive the kind of Oscar buzz that translates into Best Picture nominations.

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30. "They're doing that right now because it's cheapest and easiest."
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No one else is lobbying for awards at this time, so it's easy for them to attract more attention. It helps that the talent is game (why wouldn't they be after a decade, after all).

However, I'm still immensely skeptical that without a big publicity push closer to awards season and a strong expensive FYC campaign that they'll get more than a screenplay nod and, at absolute best, the ninth or so "we're happy to be nominated" Best Pic nom.

We seem to have as Best Pic contenders (as in, they'll have big Best Pic campaigns and late season releases):
Unbroken
Foxcatcher
Interstellar
A Most Violent Year
Inherent Vice
Gone Girl
The Imitation Game
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Into the Woods
Big Eyes
Get on Up
The Grand Budapest Hotel

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33. "RE: They're doing that right now because it's cheapest and easiest."
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You are definitely right.

But I'm hoping since AMC Networks is involved, they can throw some additional dollars to sustain this campaign throughout the year the best they can...

because many of those films, as you and I know, will fall by the wayside in terms of campaigning by the time the oscar noms come.

Plus, Arquette is shooting CBS's CSI: Cyber (btw, for it to be a CSI show, I saw the pilot in advance, it's surprisingly good and is both in the mold of the CSI shows...and not at the same time) tv show, which means she won't be as available to do the luncheons, Q&A's etc.

BUT, you never know....

I hope the movie gets Oscar nominations, even if it's just screenwriting and maybe Best Picture...

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35. "Haven't seen Boyhood yet, but why do you think it came out in July?"
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This seems like it should have been a November/December awards season release.

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37. "RE: Haven't seen Boyhood yet, but why do you think it came out in July?"
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>This seems like it should have been a November/December
>awards season release.

um November/December is the most crowded period of the year for Oscar bait movies...it would have been lost in the shuffle.

At least here it's out in front before everyone else....though if AMC Networks/IFC Films doesn't keep this going well into the fall, folk won't remember it by November either...

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40. "Sounds weird to say... but it *feels* like a summer movie."
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In a similar but different way that Beasts of the Southern Wild also simply... felt like summer.

It's intangible. A feel. SankofaII is right that it also places the movie in a less crowded release schedule... but I submit it just doesn't feel like a fall movie. It feels like summer.

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41. "RE: Sounds weird to say... but it *feels* like a summer movie."
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>In a similar but different way that Beasts of the Southern
>Wild also simply... felt like summer.
>
>It's intangible. A feel. SankofaII is right that it also
>places the movie in a less crowded release schedule... but I
>submit it just doesn't feel like a fall movie. It feels like
>summer.


yea this is a summer movie. Like, i know this will sound weird, but i've always waited for the "woe is me", "lawd jesus take these feels away", emotionally draining etc. heavy ass and dark oscar bait movies for November/December.

Boyhood is a summer movie, hell they shot every year in the summer to accommodate folks' schedules and the like....

but this isn't a November/December movie. it's a July/August movie so it's fine right where it is.

plus, studios trying to push their films for oscar bait movies are becoming more and more hip to putting them out in the summer or late spring and pushing them all through the summer and fall months etc.

will this work for Boyhood? hopefully. AMC/IFC has to go hard from here on out to ensure that people keep talking about the movie....



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42. "I think I see what you're saying"
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I felt that way about Tree Of Life. It obviously wasn't a summer movie the way Transformers is, but it felt like summer to me.

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28. "AMAZING FILM"
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Probably gonna see it again in the next week or so with my wife and I'm gonna try to get my mother to come out. I have never felt so connected with characters in a movie like I did with Boyhood. By the end I was really worried about what would happen to them. I was really worried about the mom.

I laughed a few times throughout the movie. I'm talking big laughs too. There was an older woman sitting next to me (I'm talking 70s) and we were laughing together. Only one shot early in the film bothered me but otherwise I was good to go. I agree that as the movie progressed it continued to get better.

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46. "yes"
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>Oh and shout out to those who get the offer for a NICE car
>ride to college. I need one of those in my life.

  

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47. "very good"
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the grown up kid kinda annoyed me with his tone towards the
end though. sort of an artsy emo internally tortured kid that
seemed ambivalent about life.

this reminded me that ethan hawke is a great highly underrated actor.

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48. "snoozefest"
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my legs fell asleep. my arms fell asleep. everything fell asleep but me. i stayed with it till the bitter fucking end though, till the kid went to college. the soundtrack was kinda eh... hipster rock. they could have cut the movie down some.

  

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49. "Honest. Unflinching. Beautiful."
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this is a special one.

i have a hard time digesting a lot of Linklater's philosophical stuff. "Waking Life" was one of the worst in-theatre experiences i've ever endured because of how heavy handed it was presented. but the way he organically, lovingly, subtlety folds the "bigger ideas" into this one hit me right in the chest.

it's hard to imagine anyone who wouldn't be able to, in some way, relate to this story. a brother, a son, a cousin, a nephew...we've all watched someone close to us grow up and hit all the same stumbling blocks we faced ourselves.

i can't think of another movie that handles the passage of time any better. looking back on life, our memories usually come in bursts...quick, staccato flashes of moments, music, sounds, vague feelings. i love the film's abrupt shifts to 1 or 2 years later. Mason's voice is suddenly deeper. Sam's precociousness has suddenly softened into a judicious girl on the verge of womanhood. this is life. we blink and 10 years has passed. and the little kid we remember teaching to ride a bike is filling out college admissions. that feeling of helplessness against the unyielding momentum of time...Linklater captures it perfectly.

the acting, across the board, is phenomenal. themes and scenes that could have easily devolved into cliche and camp are elevated by everyone on screen. we're reminded how good Ethan Hawke can be and Patricia Arquette basically shuts the game down for anyone else who attempts to play a single mother.

mad kudos to everyone involved in this production. to not only attempt something this ambitious but to execute it at this high a level is, without hyperbole, an historic achievement.

  

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50. "Saw it again tonight. Yep. Still great"
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51. "12 Years A White Boy."
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Whitest movie of the year.

  

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53. "LOFL. damn"
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54. "LOL"
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disagree on the sentiment....but standing ovation for your title.

  

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64. "Accurate, LoL...Good film in spite of it tho."
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nm

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71. "agree"
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73. "Um. Single mother, struggling? Looks like my life, you bougie ass NIGGER"
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Go watch 'Dear White People', the movie with a paper
bag test for the cast, you bougie ass nigga

'Boyhood' looks more like black life than the bougie
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79. "^^^10 Words of Cornball."
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89. "Agreed 12 years filming a white family so ground breaking."
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The movies is about as good as mayonnaise sandwiches.

  

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90. "The Inevitable Defeat of Mister and Pete >>>>>>> Boyhood"
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106. "Go watch Rambo w/some Janet Jackme porn nigga"
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Bwahhahahahaha

  

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107. "You really expect everyone to like Boyhood?"
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You can't see why people would be turned off by it?
See how I'm trying to have a real convo with u.

  

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65. "Will this be the first Best Picture nom with Soulja Boy in the soundtrac..."
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67. "Wow.. truly great film!"
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So the film finally started playing in my area this weekend and I had to go see it.
An amazing film ,everything was on point actors ,script and that great soundtrack,Richard never disappoints with song choices. Both child actors killed it - Ellar and Lorelei as Mason and Samantha great emoting from these two and making me care about these characters.

Ethan and Patricia - give both of them awards ,especially Patricia!!

Like Longo said above different scenes make you tear up and that scene with mason and his dad in the green room at his dad's old roommates rock show. A lot of us guys have had that talk with our own father's and man that shit was so real and connected with me !

I really hope IFC or AMC do try to put money up promoting this for awards season ,but if not I'm still going to preorder the hell out of that "Boyhood" criterion release..lol

Oh yeah Patricia I'll be your next ex husband because ...YOU GOT THEM THANGS!!!!..lol

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68. "RE:An honest film that everyone can relate to on some level"
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Grade A-

  

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69. "Absolutely nothing in this film connected with me."
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And I've experienced something pretty similar to Ethan Hawke's character in real life.

I think it's an interesting exercise in film-making though. I talked to someone about it and they said that the method was unnecessary...the viewer is willing to suspend their disbelief to allow for time passages with characters. But I don't think that's the point. The point is that it's interesting to make an open-ended film that must adapt to the time aspect. So the script has to evolve along with cultural/political events and that's interesting to me. But there's a couple directions that can go. The basic themes of the script could be set in stone and you simply use whatever happens down the line to serve that (that's how this film watches). Or, perhaps even more interesting....you could let whatever happens during the making of the film guide the script and thematical elements.

It's a common issue for documentaries. Does the director let the story take them where it goes? In some schools of thought....it's supposed to. But the decision to make a documentary in the first place means that there's something the director wants to explore. So what if the film takes you somewhere completely different from the initial inspiration?

It's also interesting to think that the director and actors start off with a direction....and grow older themselves during the making of the film which will also change the direction of the movie. In ten years...all the people on the crew will develop their respective artistry. Ie...I'm sure Ethan Hawke has tried different things and taken different approaches over the past ten years and a movie like this means that his character at the end of the movie is informed by how he's changed as an actor. That's interesting to me.

As far as the movie itself....I'd like to hear some more arguments about what makes it so good from a film-nerd perspective. To me, it's just a bunch of cliches and sentimental drivel. The characters are all stereotypical archetypes. There's nothing to think about here. Maybe it's not supposed to be intellectual though. In that case, I felt absolutely nothing watching it. I stand by my earlier characterization. Linklater and Crowe make the exact same movies and both of them are about a world that I'd prefer to take a flame-thrower to.

  

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72. "I agree that the movie doesn't transcend simple nostalgia much at all"
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The specific scenes that I could identify with, I tended to like.

The many other scenes that I didn't identify with, I thought were pretty boring. That's why it's not great to me.

  

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are painstakingly accurate in terms of timeline).

I didn't watch this movie for Yellow or Soak Up the Sun

People really miss the point on the musical soundtrack somehow not being edgy enough or whatever like this was a Forrest Gump soundtrack for the 2000s or some shit.

These are placeholders, time markers, songs that were mostly popular on the radio during the time.

And when you're a kid growing up, a lot of the songs in the soundtrack of your life are often not in your control.

You have no money, no car and your tastes haven't even fully formed yet as you head into adolescence.

I don't think "Eye In The Sky" by Allen Parsons Project or later "Shake You Down" by Gregory Abbott are joints I'd kick Black Messiah out of my headphones to play right today.

However the former reminds me of my old man who'd be blasting it when it came on WMMR in Philly while ripping me around in his 82 Ford EXP holding onto the roll bar for support when he was picking me up from the pool or dropping me at baseball practice.

The latter reminds me of the first car the family got (87 Volvo GLE) that had a tape deck and a sunroof option.

My baby sister spent so much time playing Cyndi Lauper She's So Unusual in 84/85 on her Fisher Price cassette player in the shared hallway closet between her rooms that I used to have to hide it and contemplated destroying it but felt too bad to do so plus I was the one who'd gifted it to her in the first place.

In 1990 when she got an Aiwa little boombox and The Boys' first album on tape a few years later......"Crazy" had me literally almost going so.

Those four examples if I'm being honest, *were* part of the soundtrack of my childhood even if as a grown-ass musicologist of impeccablly finely tuned taste in this day and age....I'd rather say that I was listening to 777-9311, Sailing On and Ego Tripping on repeat from my room or the backseat.

As for the rest of the relatablness, I've never been to Texas in my life outside layovers at DFW.

My parents are still together to this day.

I never fired a gun or ever owned a decent camera.

None of that shit mattered to me in the slightest.

This is a film that attempts to actually document the human condition, the process of going from child to adult (and the crushing realization u come to when u figure out those before u don't always understand or behave any better than we do).

It also shows us the awkwardness of aging and how time is a

It accomplishes these things via a filmmaking process that is dawn near unprecedented in popular cinema in the history of this planet, while also not needing to show off or beat you over the head with message or plotty dramatic devices.

That is way more than enough to 'relate' to for me, even if my experience being raised was hardly anything like this.

I just can't see how that's relevant or really matters in the end, we are all born and will all die.....what further identification do u need to make to live with these people for a couple hours?

Nostalgia never once entered my mind.

It's a film about growing/aging and the fleetingness of time.





  

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82. "I meant nostalgia in the way of making me think of my childhood"
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not pop culture references. The movie only intermittently made me think of MY childhood.

  

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117. "maybe bcuz its as much about aging, motherhood, fatherhood, manhood?"
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I mean the only reason that it's called Boyhood is due to a name charge in the final two years of its conception due to not wanting to have a title confused with 12 Years A Slave.

  

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121. "I agree, however"
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Laura Dern in Wild made me think of my mother more than Arquette did. Better writing, more fleshed out character.

  

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74. "^When hipster cynicism goes wrong. "
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I grew up poor, black and urban and I connect with a
ton in this film

You guys are acting like a pile of syphilitic dicks

Just stop

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70. "Good, but I wasn't very connected/invested until the last 45 mins or so"
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I don't think this should win Best Picture. I agree that Hawke and Arquette were great though...the two best scenes in the film were the conversation with Hawke and the son at the bar after graduation and the empty nest outburst from Arquette (that was powerful, because I remember my mom tearing up after she dropped me off at college). I feel like, in general, parents will probably connect with this movie more often than single young adults like myself.

  

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75. "Ah, so y'all are race baiting to shit on this? Eat dicks"
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Eat dicks

This movie is blacker and more relevant than all this
Best Mannish shit that y'all go

WAY blacker a movie than 'Dear White People', movie
had a paper bag test for the important characters

And white people: don't even try this "whiteness" angle

Just shush


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76. "settle down"
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you're getting emotional for no reason. I liked the movie, but it's not the best of the year.

  

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77. "Nah, I'm going in on the "whiteness" critique. "
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No poor black person raised by a single mother didn't relate
to this MORE THAN that 'Dear White People' light skinned fest

Sorry

  

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81. "What Is? Just outta curiosity."
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>you're getting emotional for no reason. I liked the movie,
>but it's not the best of the year.

  

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83. "Not sure yet, still need to see Selma"
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My top 4 are Under the Skin, Birdman, Wild, and Whiplash.

  

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85. "to butt in. these are the ones I have above it"
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1. Birdman
2. Snowpiercer
3. Guardians
4. Grand Budapest
5. Only Lovers Left Alive
6. Winter Soldier
7. A Most Wanted Man

then this 8. Boyhood

right below:

9. The Raid 2
10. Under The Skin
11. The Signal
12. Interstellar
13. Gone Girl
14. X-men
15. Dear White People

  

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86. "Lullz. "
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>1. Birdman

Lulz

>2. Snowpiercer

Lulz

>6. Winter Soldier

Lulz

>then this 8. Boyhood
>
>right below:
>
>9. The Raid 2
>10. Under The Skin
>11. The Signal
>12. Interstellar
>13. Gone Girl
>14. X-men
>15. Dear White People

9-15 are all mostly ass

Dear White People was a whiter movie than Boyhood

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94. "let's not fight...have you seen Under the Skin yet?"
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It's better than Boyhood, sorry. Clearly not a movie for old white people aka award season, but that's ok. It'll be regarded as a modern classic years from now.

  

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104. "RE: Lullz. "
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>>1. Birdman
>
>Lulz
>
cute, if you think Boyhood better, but I'm sure you haven't seen it

>>2. Snowpiercer
>
>Lulz
>
def understand not having this over Boyhood, but for me yah

>>6. Winter Soldier
>
>Lulz
>
sorry bruh, you liked the first Cap. eat a fried pickle with that bullshit

>>then this 8. Boyhood
>>
Boyhood is very damn good, period. It may move up for me on a repeat viewing and what not

>>right below:
>>
>>9. The Raid 2
>>10. Under The Skin
>>11. The Signal
>>12. Interstellar
>>13. Gone Girl
>>14. X-men
>>15. Dear White People
>
>9-15 are all mostly ass
>
sure, if you say so, but I don't give a shit what movies you like, even though I enjoy your critiques of said films

>Dear White People was a whiter movie than Boyhood
>
>Sorry
>
sure, no one believe this agenda of yours. either way Boyhood is the better movie, but I liked Dear White People a lot, which I'm sure you haven't even watched

  

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97. "Where the hell is Wild and Whiplash?"
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100. "haven't seen either"
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111. "for posterity sake"
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>WAY blacker a movie than 'Dear White People', movie


cause your ass is full of shit
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114. "so dumb"
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118. "Its true, though"
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Struggling single mother is blacker than a bougie fest

Sorry

  

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119. "cause Black only equals strugglefest till infinity "
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got it

  

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120. "No, negroid. Blackness is strength and perseverance. "
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Is saw that in 'Boyhood'

I saw privilege and whining in 'Dear White People'

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122. "RE: No, negroid. Blackness is strength and perseverance. "
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>
>Is saw that in 'Boyhood'
>
which one could argue is tied to their privilege as whites ending up mostly in suburbs, and two variants of middle class existence because of who the mom chose to marry at particular periods in her life. I mean if we're honest, if the film was following the strength and perseverance of a mexicana or black woman, it would have completely different social realities and outcomes no?

i mean like you, I loved Boyhood, but there is no need for ridiculoid statements

>I saw privilege and whining in 'Dear White People'
>
ahh you didn't watch it. got it.

  

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84. "If of all films you chose THIS 1 to critique whiteness"
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re-evaluate your life

this is a damn good, near great film. Never becomes overly reliant on the "gimmick" of the cast growing through the years, but is only enriched by it.

The title itself is a bit misleading in that the first fourth of the film is owned by the sis/daughter, the mom, and her first husband. By the end the film is as much about the biological father's change, the mother's sacrifices, and their new realities as it is about the boy/sons journey into college.

it was funny, tense, nuanced, and NOT overly philosophical about life and it's meanings. Ethan and Patricia were VERY FUCN GOOD, and the little bits / clues about the years through tech, music, and fashion were great.

def worth the near three hour investment, and should be universally in people's top 10s

  

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87. "who mad bro? "
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88. "It took 12 years to make yet couldn't get a decent story to tell."
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I swear mother fuckers always fall for a gimmick. Ooh!!! It was twelve years in the making it uses the same cast. Okay what's it about? a white family living in the burbs with everyday problems. Doesn't that sound great and it's three hours of just ordinary life wow!

  

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91. "you shoulda listened to Mr Clark and stayed in school "
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98. "i heard the Director's Cut has a great car chase"
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this is why they'll keep making Transformers movies until the sun burns out.

  

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102. "Gonna film a kid who just graduated HS for 12 years. I update y'all "
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103. "We got a great cereal scene this morning. Apple Jax"
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105. "Update! Lost his car keys we got a suspense/thriller on our hands."
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92. "Ethan Hawker should be rehearsing his acceptance speech for best"
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supporting actor

Arquette, too (I would love to throw a fuck into her)

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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93. "you haven't seen Whiplash"
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95. "I have not - since you mentioned it, I suppose there's an even"
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more Oscar worthy performance in that movie

I'll check it out

Ethan Hawke was excellent in 'Boyhood' though

I liked the performances from Hawke and Arquette moreso than the movie itself

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96. "RE: I have not - since you mentioned this it, I suppose there's an even"
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>more Oscar worthy performance in that movie
>
>I'll check it out

Good decision...it's the most criminally underrated movie of the year, for some reason.

>Ethan Hawke was excellent in 'Boyhood' though

yeah he was...I liked his performance in the later years more than the early years, but yeah.

>I liked the performances from Hawke and Arquette moreso than
>the movie itself

agreed.

  

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99. "yeah...gonna be tough to top JK Simmons"
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and I think Arquette's performance is *slightly* better than Hawke's. But they're both amazing.

  

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109. "yeah that's a wrap. jk winnin."
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this seems to be the 'lock' category in recent years. ledger, bardem, waltz's 1st, bale, leto were all no-doubters.

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101. "Finally saw it, even better than advertised"
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Every single minute was captivating as hell.

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108. "Boyhood is garbage, I hit the eject button. "
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Ethan Hawke was good and Patrica Arquette had the twins out that was nice. I couldn't get into it at all and it felt like a waste of time.

  

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115. "U watched on VHS?"
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116. "lol you stupid"
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124. "Someone didn't like the movie. The mob comes and picks on them."
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112. "i'm happy Patricia won that Golden Globe =)"
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123. "That shitty Boyhood movie is gonna rack up some Oscars."
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Between what wins awards and what wins at the box office America has like the shittiest taste hands down. That can go for years end list and billboard charts too, throw music in there. We fuckin have awful taste as a country. Maybe it's just most people in general. I can fux wit y'all. I mean 50/50 moved me more than this shit.

  

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125. "yeah, the 12 years thing is being overblown"
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i get that it's never been done in this way, but we've seen kids grow up on TV before and in service of better stories. overall, i enjoyed it, but it was a slog through certain parts. like watching someone else's home movies. i guess you could say its ordinariness is what makes it extraordinary. you could say that, and i could slap you, and we'd both be right. the three scenes at the end (green room, empty nest, and college hike) kind of save this from being a complete waste of time. at least they tried to throw some insight into it, though we didn't need three hours to get there.

the people who are saying this is a celebration of whiteness are mostly right. there's nothing remarkable about this family or this kid, other than they are middle american white. boyhood is basically a 12-year selfie for anyone who grew up (or raised kids) like this, every bit as narcissistic and needy as the picture of your breakfast you posted to facebook this morning. your unremarkable life is so important that we spent 12-years making a movie about it. presto, life validated. the fact that the academy is 95% white and 75% male (and i'm guessing high-90% american, high-90% raised middle-class) makes it not that hard to see why this is the runaway frontrunner for best picture. an equivalent movie about an unremarkable black family would be mostly ignored (and rightfully so), an equivalent movie about an unremarkable family set in a country other than america would never be seen.

performances were top notch. they lucked out with the kid and they know it. i even enjoyed the daughter who went from being adorable to unbearably obnoxious to reserved, just like a real girl. arquette and hawke were fine, but both characters and performances were-- again-- rescued from complete pointlessness by their final scenes. an interesting movie, enjoyable in parts, worth seeing. no way would i sit through it again.

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126. "You are embarassing the black race. Stop it. "
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>the people who are saying this is a celebration of whiteness
>are mostly right. there's nothing remarkable about this
>family or this kid, other than they are middle american white.

Or all of the wonderful things that make this family
unique, and like a human family, and an American family.
And the boy like a boy and the girl like a girl, and the
mom like a mom. And the conflicted dad like a conflicted
dad.

Because unless you're a bougie NEGRO, you've seen all of
those characteristics (in the film's characters) in black
people. In Compton. And in Nigeria.

So shut your dumbass up.

  

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130. "sorry to be the one to break it to you, OE"
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your life is not remarkable. a three-hour movie about it would be a waste of everyone's time. taking 12 years to make that movie would be an even more egregious waste of time. i'm sorry that boyhood convinced you otherwise.

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127. "i kept expecting "something" to happen"
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but "nothing" did. pretty much anti-climatic but overall a good movie. i appreciate the period pieces, like music, cars, technology. the sociology of growing up....the divorced, single-parent dynamic. mason jr is a boring and quiet, who really didn't give us much insight into what was going on in his head. if they had tapped into this film's FULL potential, it could've been called "childhood"(or soemthing) and be about kids growing up, not just about this one awkward boy. It would've been nice to get his sister's point of view growing up too. like why was he so special. oh well. i think its the big picture that you take away from it, not so much about mason jr himself.

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128. "From what I gather, this is very close to Linklater's own upbringing."
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He's tried to play coy in interviews about whether or not this movie is autobiographical, but the facts are that he grew up in a single parent household near Houston for a spell, had a mother who was a teacher and a cool dad who would come and kick it with him.

To me, the boy is a Trojan horse. What this movie REALLY is about is the mother, and how she raised two kids over the span of 12 years, while dealing with decent-but-flawed men.

It's Linklater's tribute to his mom.

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129. "BINGO. So you saw the movie. Good for you. "
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>He's tried to play coy in interviews about whether or not
>this movie is autobiographical, but the facts are that he
>grew up in a single parent household near Houston for a spell,
>had a mother who was a teacher and a cool dad who would come
>and kick it with him.

Linklater said the story was going to go wherever the
boy did

If the boy was a 250lb linebacker, that would have been
the story


>To me, the boy is a Trojan horse. What this movie REALLY is
>about is the mother, and how she raised two kids over the span
>of 12 years, while dealing with decent-but-flawed men.
>
>It's Linklater's tribute to his mom.

Exactamundo

This is astonishingly clear to anyone who saw the
movie.

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131. "tribute..interesting"
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>To me, the boy is a Trojan horse. What this movie REALLY is
>about is the mother, and how she raised two kids over the span
>of 12 years, while dealing with decent-but-flawed men.
>
>It's Linklater's tribute to his mom.

lol

yet the mom wasn't really actively participating in their upbringing. and maybe that's the point; she raised them a certain way. i.e., WAY too busy all the time, along with bad love choices. she was very sweet and affectionate, in the brief moments we saw her interact with her kids. i wonder how "fucked up" him and his sister are from all that drama and moving around they had to do. cause mason didn't say much.

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132. "Word, she was totally uninvolved with the kids. Like, totally."
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So that means her tearful speech near the end of the film is bullshit and totally not earned, not at all.

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133. "*record scratch* Fuck did you say? "
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>lol
>
>yet the mom wasn't really actively participating in their
>upbringing.


What?

and maybe that's the point; she raised them a
>certain way. i.e., WAY too busy all the time, along with bad
>love choices. she was very sweet and affectionate, in the
>brief moments we saw her interact with her kids. i wonder how
>"fucked up" him and his sister are from all that drama and
>moving around they had to do. cause mason didn't say much.

What?

The kids grew up to be perfectly healthy, pretty well adjusted
kids

Definitely more normal than 99.9999% of Okayplayers

Definitely more normal than you.

  

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134. "yeah."
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it's a crushing and heroic look at motherhood. one of the main threads that stuck out to me is her failed relationships, and how she's judged for them (by her kids and the audience). meanwhile, the father has the freedom to make all the relationship mistakes he wants, out of sight and with little impact on his children.

at the end, when Hawke implies that if she was more patient, he would've eventually became the man she always wanted...what a knife-twisting lie to tell your son.

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136. "All of this."
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I thought this was all painfully obvious, but I guess not to everyone.

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137. "People are imbeciles and need messages shouted in their face. "
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I'm not letting people off that easy tho

Its painfully fucking obvious what this movie is about

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139. "RE: they don't want that though either"
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then they complain about a film being too heavy handed

there are only a couple of posters critiques I can roll with, it seems many folk think it was literally about the Boy

it's astonishing they didn't see the celebration of the struggle being a single mother who ends up with men obsessed with patriachal control and drinking problems

or even how there are many components to being and learning in life from life in the suburbs to when they visit Hawke's new ladies parents in the woods and experience a lil' bible belt

it's a good fucn movie

  

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141. "People are idiots and morons. That's all they get from me. "
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I haven't read a single critique in this post that
made 1/2 a good point.

Not one.

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135. "RE: BOYHOOD is not a very enlightening film"
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It just shows a particular social dynamic that folks can relate to. That's all. There is nothing empowering about growing up in a broken home.
I would say that Boyhood actually promotes groupthink. Everybody was so middle of the road. There was nothing that was out of the ordinary.
I thought the mom was kinda self absorbed.

Were Mason and Samantha well adjusted? Samantha was kinda mouthy and Mason was painting his fingernails. lol You see this behavior among kids in the ghetto that were mostly raised by single moms,

oooooooh i was not supposed to say that.

Boyhood is an entertaining film. If you can relate to some of the situations presented in the movie fine. But don't make the mistake of thinking it is positive or enlightening because it is not.



  

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140. "lol."
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l

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143. "RE: Positive or uplifting"
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The movie never seemed that it was making moral judgments of the kids and didn't really make the adults very unflattering outside of their lack of self-awareness. (The two abusive husbands, the mother's blindness towards a certain type of man, the father's reluctance to embrace his role as a father with MJ and his sister.)

Maybe the hype by the press made Boyhood out to be flattering towards the kids, but the story just showed them for what they were.

The kid was moody and self-interested, the daughter was flighty, but not really any more than any other

I guess it could be argued that MJ's substance use wasn't given any meaningful consequences (losing out on a scholarship, legal trouble) but he also was the focal point of the movie and the movie shifted some focus away from his possible angst towards his parents and his growing sense of dread about the larger world.

I would consider Dope a 'nostalgic' movie more than Boyhood. MJ personality wasn't made up of pop culture moments in the way that the main character of Dope's was.

Interesting point tho.

  

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138. "Shit was good. The end. "
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144. "The device behind the movie is historically great, the movie itself isn'..."
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I was up late last night and decided to watch this from the DVR.

I need to start watching movies when they come out if only to avoid the hype distracting me from taking apart or enjoying movies, because I liked this movie, but I would take myself out of the moment trying to see that it's Oscar-worthy.

The device of taking a young actor and tracking the story of a film alongside his physical growth is genius and is a better device than the free-flowing camerawork and story of 'Slacker' to me.

The performances all around are well executed and like other posters have said, remarkably naturalistic and emotionally effecting.

I am not white and had a relatively stable childhood so while I couldn't relate to the actual events of shuttling back and forth from parent to parent and moving around, the emotional beats of the movie were quite relateable. Just the experience and the emotional toll of being a child and knowing your well-being, safety and development depend on adults that don't quite have life figured out related to me.

I think the connection to the movie comes from watching the kids react to the chaos of their upbringings, and recalling how stressful living out the consequences of the mistakes of adults.

You'd think a movie about childhood would show kids developing the most, but it seemed the parents changed more than the kids.

And that development was also wide-ranging and also hard-fought.

Seeing the father (Hawke) turn from a well-meaning dad who struggled with responsibility turn into the conservative, mini-van driving, God-fearing man was a trip. I kind of felt a measure of sympathy for his character because of the cost of his spirit fatherhood and responsibility took on him.

The mother (Aroquette) remain constant in her character was nice. That unfortunately meant that she made the mistake of marrying men who were charming but struggling with their spirituality and seemed to take that grief out on their families. Seeing her develop and find success was heart-warming.

I might be the only one who didn't like 'The Scene' by Patricia. I don't have kids and considering all the strife and success they had experienced I could see her being emotionally raw, but her character's personality seemed more grounded than to basically say MJ's moving out was about her not him.

My favorite scene might be the one in the kitchen at MJ's graduation party. The exchange of the parents talking about their blended families and hinting at their entanglements was nice. Even the part about the father leaving the money in the car was a needling but well-done moment.

It was worth seeing.

  

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145. "This review is all late, but if you get a chance..."
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Download the podcast here:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/07/11/boyhood_spoilers_three_critics_review_richard_linklater_s_new_movie_audio.html

Slate.com offeres 'Spoiler Specials' which are podcasts recapping a movie or TV episode and talking about spoilers in the movie in a way that most reviewers can't because of spoiler alerts.

  

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