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"Which is the better show - SCANDAL or HOUSE OF CARDS?"


  

          

Just finished a binge watch of HOC season 2 and I must ask - WHICH is the better show. Here's some criteria for you - writing, directing, storyline/script, acting, character development, cinematography, etc.

Serious discussion please.........

  

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You're joking, right?
Feb 18th 2014
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lmao
Feb 18th 2014
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RE: Which is the better show - SCANDAL or HOUSE OF CARDS?
Feb 18th 2014
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http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/how.gif
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^^^ :)
Feb 18th 2014
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Seriously?
Feb 18th 2014
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LMFAO.
Feb 18th 2014
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Not like this bruh.
Feb 18th 2014
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RE: Which is the better show - SCANDAL or HOUSE OF CARDS?
Feb 18th 2014
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Your opinion is disqualified
Feb 18th 2014
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LOFL. ohh my god
Feb 18th 2014
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So true. The boards are turning to crap.
Feb 19th 2014
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nigger what? LOG OFF
Feb 20th 2014
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Scandal
Feb 20th 2014
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I'm only 1/2 way thru the 1st season of HoC. When does this happen?
Feb 20th 2014
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which part?
Feb 20th 2014
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      Either or both
Feb 20th 2014
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           It gets more and more ludicrous as it goes, unquestionably.
Feb 20th 2014
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                Good to know, thanks
Feb 20th 2014
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RE: Scandal
Feb 20th 2014
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      i disagree.
Feb 20th 2014
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      RE: i disagree.
Feb 20th 2014
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           not as many as you seem to think.
Feb 21st 2014
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      ^^^ incredibly wrong
Feb 20th 2014
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           RE: ^^^ incredibly wrong
Feb 20th 2014
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                yep
Feb 21st 2014
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                I hear what you're saying, but correct me if I'm wrong
Feb 21st 2014
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                     Oh this show is thriving off of campiness
Mar 02nd 2014
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                          ohh you're being a fucn hipster
Mar 04th 2014
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                               Actually that would be y'all
Mar 04th 2014
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                so what
Feb 21st 2014
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                That's not what you said though.
Feb 21st 2014
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                i watch both b/c they're OTT.
Feb 21st 2014
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the deeper i get into season 2 of HOC
Feb 20th 2014
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but the "thinking" is just superficial
Feb 21st 2014
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agreed.
Feb 21st 2014
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why do folks like yall
Feb 21st 2014
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      *pats head*
Feb 21st 2014
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           LOL at *seems*
Mar 02nd 2014
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To me, the only real difference between the two is that one is
Mar 02nd 2014
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Agreed.
Mar 02nd 2014
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Yep
Mar 04th 2014
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Nah. One show sucks, the other is good.
Mar 02nd 2014
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      pretty much
Mar 03rd 2014
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           I'm not mad at Scandal
Mar 03rd 2014
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                Agreed
Mar 03rd 2014
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                it's out of control
Mar 04th 2014
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                O_E is a dumbass. Scandal is definitely better than HoC.
Apr 22nd 2014
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i couldn't get past 5 minutes of Scandal
Mar 03rd 2014
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Are you serious?
Mar 03rd 2014
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SELF ETHER -- I take it back: House of Cards is AWFUL
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CaptNish
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1. "You're joking, right?"
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>Serious discussion please.........

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sfMatt
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2. "lmao"
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3. "RE: Which is the better show - SCANDAL or HOUSE OF CARDS?"
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House of Cards has its bullshits moments, but it's much better than Scandal. HoC has much better acting, writing, and ideas.

  

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4. "http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/how.gif"
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11. "^^^ :)"
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5. "Seriously?"
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>Just finished a binge watch of HOC season 2 and I must ask -
>WHICH is the better show. Here's some criteria for you -
>writing, directing, storyline/script, acting, character
>development, cinematography, etc.
>
>Serious discussion please.........

You know...this isn't even close right. But I'm game.

Writing: HoC Beau Willimon and the writers clearly have a distinct vision they want for the show and are given the leeway to implement it. Having a blueprint from the original BBC show helps. The dialogue is snappy and I dig a lot of the foreshadowing that takes place.

Storyline/Script: Same as above. Some things stretch believability, specifically the Peter Russo "thing", but I find most of what happens very plausible. Also, while reading news articles about our Congress and all the procedural machinations and vote trading that occurs, I tend to believe HoC gets closer to what actually happens in Congress than other fictional works.

Acting: HoC Is this even a question? Scandal is a melodrama disguised as a political thriller with matching melodramatic acting. Every episode Robin Wright and Kevin Space put on a clinic. Not to mention Corey Stoll and Michael Kelly.

Character Development: HoC Scandal writers come up with a crazy scenario for each of their characters and throw it on the screen. They change the characters to suit whatever crazy storlyine they want to develop. It's so freakin' absurd. The HoC characters arrived fully formed. We knew what they were from the jump. Although they haven't exactly shown "growth" in the past two seasons, they are so fully realized that I don't need to see "growth" per se.

Cinematography: HoC This show is shot beautifully. I think the tone David Fincher set in the first two episodes carried well throughout the show. It gives it a cinematic quality.



All that said, people like what they like. I happen to think Scandal is a terrible, terrible show. Some people think HoC is overrated. There's no accounting for taste. Scandal just ain't my cup of tea. I have learned to accept that.

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6. "LMFAO."
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7. "Not like this bruh."
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8. "RE: Which is the better show - SCANDAL or HOUSE OF CARDS?"
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scandal................all day.........erryday!!!

hoc........prententious as hell!!!!! and dey get disqualified for having cnn, msnbc, fox news anchors in cameos. scandal know who dey are and who the audience is....period.

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9. "Your opinion is disqualified"
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Anyone who types dey instead of they is useless...

btw, that isn't slang

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10. "LOFL. ohh my god"
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this place is becoming a parody of itself. yes PTP, The Lesson and GD

  

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12. "So true. The boards are turning to crap."
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It's kinda like the last few seasons of the Office. A complete parody of itself. Even the sports board. This is the only board I really enjoy anymore, and topics like this one make me lose faith lol.

  

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13. "nigger what? LOG OFF"
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are you serious?

man come the fuck on....

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14. "Scandal"
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House of Cards is without a doubt the more polished show. Better directing, lighting, cinematography, sound. But it's infuriatingly self-serious, constantly pretending it MEANS something and has something powerful to say about politics in America.

But in fact it is ludicrous camp. I'd much rather watch a show that realizes it is ludicrous camp than one that loudly insists that it is an important show.

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15. "I'm only 1/2 way thru the 1st season of HoC. When does this happen?"
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>infuriatingly self-serious, constantly pretending it MEANS
>something and has something powerful to say about politics in
>America.
>
>But in fact it is ludicrous camp.

  

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16. "which part?"
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The self-seriousness or the ridiculousness?

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18. "Either or both"
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>The self-seriousness or the ridiculousness?

Peter Russo just went to his first AA meeting

The previous ep w/ the brick through the window was a little peculiar

Just wondering if I should expect stuff more along those lines from here on out or if you thought it was pure camp from the jump. The only problem I've had w/ it so far is Spacey talking to the camera too much (or maybe even at all)

  

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21. "It gets more and more ludicrous as it goes, unquestionably."
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Even diehards who love it should be able to acknowledge this.

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23. "Good to know, thanks"
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17. "RE: Scandal"
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Scandal doesn't know it's ludicrous camp, and neither do its fans.

  

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19. "i disagree."
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Shonda knows. and a good portion of the fanbase knows based on the conversations i've had w/several ppl who watch. yes, there is that portion that doesn't seem to know. but i think most of us who watch know the show is a prime-time soap opera.

fuck you.

  

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24. "RE: i disagree."
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To act like every scandal fan is like you, is bullshit. There are plenty that genuinely believe it's a top notch show and Kerry should be awarded for her crying.

  

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30. "not as many as you seem to think."
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in my experience those ppl are few in #. i don't know any personally though i know dozens of Scandal fans.

fuck you.

  

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22. "^^^ incredibly wrong"
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25. "RE: ^^^ incredibly wrong"
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Oh puhlease. Hell I watch House of Cards because it's over the top, but I'd be lying if I said I thought others felt the same.

  

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26. "yep"
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>Oh puhlease. Hell I watch House of Cards because it's over
>the top, but I'd be lying if I said I thought others felt the
>same.

i watch both knowing this

but HoC fans are the most incredibly unaware group that dont realize they are watching a soap opera
scandal fans relish that it is
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33. "I hear what you're saying, but correct me if I'm wrong"
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Fri Feb-21-14 04:24 PM by astralblak

  

          

HoC is melodrama not soap opera. As Amoldovar once said, soap opera is melodrama done badly. Things can be extreme, over the top, and serious as melodrama, soap opera thrives off the campiness

  

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36. "Oh this show is thriving off of campiness"
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>HoC is melodrama not soap opera. As Amoldovar once said, soap
>opera is melodrama done badly. Things can be extreme, over the
>top, and serious as melodrama, soap opera thrives off the
>campiness


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47. "ohh you're being a fucn hipster"
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nevermind

  

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48. "Actually that would be y'all "
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Hipsters are the ones who "barely watch tv"
Deigning to only watch "particular" shows of "quality"

Y'all are judging the shit out of two tv shows that are not as different as tall really want and wish them to be to try to have some misguided attempt to superior taste in television watching

Get that straight
And please for the live of television try to gain some damn perspective and awareness
Sheesh
It's embarrassing ...for y'all
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27. "so what"
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Some people think WWE is real. A show is not what its dumbest audience member thinks it is.

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28. "That's not what you said though."
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You said Scandal wasn't self-aware (it is) and that its fans didn't know how trashy it was (they do).

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31. "i watch both b/c they're OTT."
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LOL

if i wanted to watch a realistic portrayal of life in the WH and Congress i'd watch CSPAN or documentaries.

fuck you.

  

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20. "the deeper i get into season 2 of HOC"
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the more i agree that the show is the 'thinking mans' version of Scandal. LOL

it has fewer 'OH SHIT' moments per episode than Scandal. and that's the main difference between them.

fuck you.

  

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29. "but the "thinking" is just superficial"
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It's like eating Aged White Cheddar Pirate's Booty and looking down on somebody eating Cheetos.

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32. "agreed."
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fuck you.

  

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34. "why do folks like yall"
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keep denying that HoC has SUPERIOR acting, by miles and LOOKS fantastic. the lighting and composition of many scenes are great and compliment the plot/scene very well.

fuck all that thinking man's bullshit. those two things alone make HoC better if yall are pretending the writing and plots are equal

  

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35. "*pats head*"
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i like both shows. i like HOC a little better. and i agree that HOC seems to have higher production values.

fuck you.

  

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37. "LOL at *seems*"
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>i like both shows. i like HOC a little better. and i agree
>that HOC seems to have higher production values.

  

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38. "To me, the only real difference between the two is that one is"
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aimed more at women than the other

Well, fine, that, and one show spends more time on political wheeling and dealing than the other

Both have their share of ridiculous OMG SHOCK LOL! moments, though, so the comparison isn't as off as we might believe

It's just that one's *perceived* as a more "pop" show than the other

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39. "Agreed."
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I also think Scandal (from what little I've seen) owns its ridiculousness more, although that might be more of a reaction to the critical acclaim that HoC gets. But it was funny watching Twitter during season 1; every Hollywood writer I followed heaped praise on it while most every political writer laughed about how ridiculous and silly it was.

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49. "Yep"
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Folks in GD and here didn't believe me when I said HoC viewers are the most unaware viewers

But hey let's see them try to distance their TV habits
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40. "Nah. One show sucks, the other is good. "
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That's the difference.

  

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41. "pretty much"
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I know everyone has their own personal taste, and I can't tell you what to like.........but c'mon.

  

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42. "I'm not mad at Scandal"
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But to say that the shows are the same AT ALL is pathetic
and hipsterism at its worst

  

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45. "Agreed"
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46. "it's out of control"
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51. "O_E is a dumbass. Scandal is definitely better than HoC. "
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I openly admit I was wrong



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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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43. "i couldn't get past 5 minutes of Scandal"
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the acting in the pilot was horrendous, but the fact that the show looked like an early 90s episode of New York Undercover was too much to bear

  

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44. "Are you serious?"
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www.twitter.com/JayTeeDee

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50. "SELF ETHER -- I take it back: House of Cards is AWFUL"
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((No spoilers))

I have NEVER seen a show completely jump the shark that
quickly

It went from clever political drama to dumbass shock value
show in the span of like three episodes


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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