" The Raid 2: Berendal (Retaliation)[Evans, 2014]"
teaser up:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJKvZRlSSY ==================================== when cannibal confronts missionary, who is religious and who insane..the one eating people, the other converting them... (c) James Hillman
2. "RE: no what i'm sayin'" In response to Reply # 1
==================================== when cannibal confronts missionary, who is religious and who insane..the one eating people, the other converting them... (c) James Hillman
16. "I liked the first one better. *No spoilers*" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Mar-10-14 10:59 PM by bwood
I was expecting an adrenaline rush of non stop action like the first and this wasn't that. At all.
Yeah, there's lots of fights from start to finish, but this one wanted to tell an actual story. And when they wanted to tell the story, I was bored. Evan got kinda artsy at points and some of it was cool and some of it wasn't. Also, you can tell these niggas have bigger budget than the first film from the opening shot.
All I wanted was niggas fucking each other up. Which you get here in spades, but just the non-stop roller coaster that the first was.
With all that said the violence is more brutal in this one. I mean cotdamn at some of the ways these niggas be fucking each other up in this joint.
And there are 2 fight scenes at the end of the film and a car chase that are better than anything in the first. Thinking about that shit right now has my heart racing.
With all that said, hopefully for the last part of this trilogy, Evans takes it back to a bare bones plot with non-stop action.
17. "wow.... well Im still excited but...." In response to Reply # 16
I will miss the non-stop action of the first. See these type of movies dont really need a deep plot. Just do it like the first, good guys, bad guys, and guy playing both side...annnnnd FIGHT. But Im still hype for it.
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21. "Like Bwood said above, a good dose of 'undercover cop' plot" In response to Reply # 0 Sat Mar-29-14 11:01 AM by BigReg
The undercover plotline isn't bad and is surprisingly well acted across the board. The problem is that it's pretty cliche.
However, I don't think it's a huge problem because the set pieces they have sprinkled in are spectacular.
But when the climax hits, its a whole other level...if you liked the first one you will like this one as well...some of the shit they pull off...woah. Easily a must see if you liked the first.
>teaser up:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJKvZRlSSY >==================================== >when cannibal confronts missionary, who is religious and who >insane..the one eating people, the other converting them... >(c) James Hillman
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Sun Mar-30-14 03:13 PM
22. "Begins slow, then quickly turns awesome." In response to Reply # 0
The first hour has a good amount of rote cop stuff that's pretty boring, but once Hammer Girl and Bat Man roll in, it immediately gets fantastic from there out. Sit through the first hour or so, brace yourself for the final 40-45 minutes. It's better than anything from the first after that.
24. "Raid 2: My quick thoughts" In response to Reply # 23
Overall, I was a bit disappointed with The Raid 2. It's definitely a different film from the first and more plot-driven, which I have no problem with. But whereas the first film had very little plot, this film had way too much...particularly in the middle of the film. There are at least 30 minutes that can be edited from this film, especially the homeless assassin's character and all his scenes...which hardly serve the plot. If anything, his story brings the entire movie to a screeching halt and his fight scenes were dull. Once they introduce the three other assassins, the film picks up again & finishes quite nicely. It's just those 30+ minutes in the middle that stop this from being a great film. As is, it's a chore to sit thru and I think it will have many at home fast forwarding from the prison scenes two the last third of the film.
25. "This movie is very badass." In response to Reply # 0
Much like The Raid and V/H/S/2 segment Safe Haven, Gareth Evans does not shy away from showing the violence up front and in your face.
The movie starts very slow in comparison, but when it picks up, really when they introduce Hammer Girl and the Baseball Bat Man, it goes full throttle from there into topnotch action.
I hope that Iko Uwais and Gareth Evans become stars, b/c they have immense talent.
whatver downsides there may be, it has better action than any of these shitty superhero movies cats are going to tell you to watch, and possibly the second best car chase scene I've ever seen since Ronin
>That mud fight was crazy. Pencak silat is such a badass >discipline. > >Although, it didn't really seem to have anything to do with >the first, other than that main Rama dude fucking everybody >up.
Yea it does. Before he goes undercover, he takes the guy they captured from the first to the lead cop his brother said he can trust. From there the plot of this movie kicks in saying that they want to expose corruption on the force by having Rama go undercover. Mind you when he takes him to the only good cop boss, it's only 2 hours after what they went through in the first film. The first scratched the surface of corruption in Jarakta police force. This film picks up those pieces and explores it further. Unsuccessfully in my opinion.
> >Also, what was the opening scene all about, the one with the >dude getting kidnapped out in the fields? I didn't get that.
Rama's brother got caught helping police and was therefore executed. This is one of the reasons that Rama decides to go undercover. > >I think I liked the first one better.
29. "** SPOILERS** I doubt there will be a better action movie in 2014" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Apr-14-14 06:20 AM by dafriquan
When that dude was casually slitting throats of men while having a conversation, I was repulsed that I was enjoying such visceral violence. So much slashing and close quarter combat. I watched it on opening night with a bloodlusting audience that applauded after every good kill. It was great.
Some of the plot building was unnecessary(hired assasin misses his son and is chastised by his high fashion wife who still takes his blood stained money? Cry me a fcking river but I do not care) but the climax of Raid 2 was even better than the climax of Raid 1.
I really need to see the behind the scenes cause some of these stunts and fight scenes look painful and dangerous. They need a disclaimer saying. "No human beings were hurt in the making of this film" cause I was unsure after watching it...lol
33. "action was incredible! But the story was a lil too slow for my taste.." In response to Reply # 0
dont get me wrong, the story was pretty well done... but pacing wise... I dont know...I guess thats just not what Im looking for in a movie like The Raid. It dont have to be non stop, ballz to the wall acton like the first one was. But it did feel like some of the scenes drug on a little too long. Like 30 min could have easily been edited out.
But as for fight scenes.... it gets no better than this!
Hammer Girl!!! Batman!!! And that kitchen fight... wow.
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cinematography, sound, choreography...all nearly perfect. the amazing part was 90 percent of the action being filmed with a hand-held, which is usually an appalling technique when Hollywood uses it. yet here it's amazingly fluid and easy to follow, so a big fuck you to every single director that's put shaky-cam-cut-ups on screen.
even the car chase made the Fast and Furious series look like an awful cartoon. a genre-defining film, and as trite a cliche as this, I doubt an action fan could have any more *fun* at the theater in 2014.
37. "this shit was so great. I really want a behind the scenes" In response to Reply # 0
i love how dancerly yet violent the hand to hand fights were. they way they show how Pencak silat style breaks down the body with speed at close range is just mind boggling.
I didn't mind the story, i do think they could've gutted the bum/assassin story line, bu I enjoyed his fight scenes as well
41. "The behind the scenes stuff on the DVD" In response to Reply # 37
goes into good detail how the action scenes were choreographed, in particular the car chase scene. It came out last week Tuesday for folks that are interested.
44. "Interesting you could do that with DVDs/blu-rays" In response to Reply # 42
I wonder how that works in terms of limiting features like that. Getting somewhat back to the original topic, it was interesting to see the camera operators physically move around for filming the actions scenes and the setups involved for the car chase scene.
45. "first part has been going on for several years" In response to Reply # 44
studios just decided to stop including extra content on the rental copies they press for Netflix and Redbox. I don't blame them, it's the smallest of incentives they have left to push dying (dead?) DVD/Blu-Ray sales.
of course, it's rare to see many great extra features worth buying the home release for nowadays, at least compared to those special editions we'd get back in the DVD glory years.
39. "Fucking movie was absolutely amazing" In response to Reply # 0
I loved the first one, but not as much as a lot of my friends. But holy shit, this one was one of the most amazing action films I have ever seen in my life.
Marvel should get Evans on the phone immediately and ask him to bring Iko Uwais with him.
52. "best action movie i've ever seen" In response to Reply # 0
the cinematography was off the chain...i'd be amazed if this guy isn't getting calls from hollywood. the shit they did in this film is straight up amazing.
Frank Longo Member since Nov 18th 2003 86672 posts
Tue Jul-28-20 11:21 AM
60. "Have you seen The Night Comes For Us yet?" In response to Reply # 58
I'm not necessarily sure that it's *better*, but it's fucking incredible and, IIRC, more violent than The Raid movies. Amazing bone-crunching Indonesian martial arts movie.
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