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bwood
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"Frozen (Buck & Lee, 2013)"


          

Forgot to say I saw this shit last Sunday. Shit is mmmmaaaadddd meh. Super okay. Didn't love, didn't hate it. Entertaining at parts. If you take your kids they're gonna love it. I didn't like any of the songs except for the song where the Queen builds her ice fortress. That shit was dope.

I will say the film is worth seeing just for the Mickey Mouse short before the feature. That shit is worth the price of admission alone.

Here's a trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1ieZ4f-DqM

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Saw it last night
Nov 27th 2013
1
See, I loved Tangled though.
Nov 27th 2013
2
when did Disney rehire Chris Buck?
Nov 27th 2013
3
I thought it was terrific. The music was outstanding.
Nov 28th 2013
4
i dug this one...
Dec 01st 2013
5
was going to see it Saturday but got sick
Dec 01st 2013
6
Finally saw it today and meh
Dec 13th 2013
7
RE: i agree with you on this one
Dec 22nd 2013
8
I liked this better than Tangled.
Dec 26th 2013
9
let me qualify this as meaning the movie as a whole, and
Jan 14th 2014
20
      RE: let me qualify this as meaning the movie as a whole, and
Jan 14th 2014
22
           In my personal opinion, both films suffer a bit from
Apr 27th 2014
32
This is now the most successful Disney animated film since
Jan 01st 2014
10
yep, thats the one....
Jan 02nd 2014
11
Let it Go was the one song that i liked
Jan 02nd 2014
13
      I like the "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" song too
Jan 03rd 2014
14
           yeah that one wasnt bad either
Jan 03rd 2014
15
great movie. powerful & moving songs, as well as some more
Jan 02nd 2014
12
And oh yeah - really enjoyed the Mickey Mouse short before
Jan 03rd 2014
16
^Short was great and the movie was decent.
Jan 14th 2014
18
disappointed...
Jan 13th 2014
17
that joint was so boring. lmao
Jan 14th 2014
19
Let It Go is a great song. The rest of the music in this is trash.
Jan 14th 2014
21
^^^^
Jan 14th 2014
23
If you weren't moved by "Do You Want To Build a Snowman"
Jan 16th 2014
24
      Let It Go was limp to me. Snowman and First Time in Forever crushed me.
Jun 23rd 2014
36
Have you guys heard the "Explicitly Honest Version" of "Let It Go"?
Jan 16th 2014
25
This shit is gonna be on Broadway *swipe*
Jan 16th 2014
26
Reissued today with new "Sing-Along" prints.
Jan 31st 2014
27
Oh, I never said...
Jan 31st 2014
28
It was cool. Didn't mind the songs at all.
Feb 05th 2014
29
Gad was great during some intern-themed skits on Daily Show.
Jun 23rd 2014
37
Meh
Apr 27th 2014
30
RE: Meh
Apr 27th 2014
31
      RE: Meh
Apr 27th 2014
33
I actually dug this
Apr 28th 2014
34
we all know how we feel, but I finally saw it, so some thoughts post-hyp...
Jun 23rd 2014
35
wat
Jun 23rd 2014
38
oh, I just assumed. didn't know regular Disney did CGI.
Jun 24th 2014
40
      well, they certainly don't do hand-drawn animation.
Jun 24th 2014
41
*SPOILERS*
Jun 23rd 2014
39

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1. "Saw it last night"
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It was entertaining enough. You're right about the songs, though. While they weren't bad, none of them were really memorable. I had the same issue with Tangled. The last Disney musical I really enjoyed was The Princess and the Frog. The songs in that one were just stronger. Story-wise, Frozen was decent and I really dug the look. Overall, I thought it was good, but, decidedly, not great.

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2. "See, I loved Tangled though."
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Which is funny you say that as they're based on two different fairy tales, yet so similar in execution and animation style. Maybe that's why I didn't like it.

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3. "when did Disney rehire Chris Buck?"
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4. "I thought it was terrific. The music was outstanding."
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I got teary-eyed at a couple of the songs, they made the musical nerd in me so happy. AND SO MANY SONGS. I can't remember the last Disney musical with this many songs.

Olaf is delightful. I loved the relationship between the sisters. I loved the climactic moment. The colors are beautiful for a film with so much blue and white.

There are a few quibbles that I could make, primarily that the pace becomes so frenetic that it means fewer songs. Still, this is pretty much exactly what I want from a Disney animated musical. Please hire the Lopezes to do the music for all of them from here out,

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5. "i dug this one..."
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we just got back...

i actually thought the music was a STRONG point in this one. i thought the songs were memorable and very well performed...i remember thinking it felt like it had a dash of "Wicked-esque' feel about it (turns out it actually did...my wife told me afterwards that the singer from Wicked also played the big sis in Frozen...i LOVE that chicks singing so that gets a thumbs up from me right there). But along with her, i thought ALL of the actors/singers performances in this were really strong and were key to this films success.

Animation performances were quite well done as well, characters subtleties and emotions were well developed and in sync with the audio performances so it was successful there too. Snowman brought a smile to my face...

nice looking movie all the way around. felt like it was well thought out visually. (in that regard, and this may seem like a non-important thing to mention, and it may be, but i remember noticing how well rendered the snow was....it felt real...the way the characters interacted with it...it just felt 'real' & well done...

story was solid, and in some ways even surprising...(there was one plot-line that i fully expected to happen that didn't, and another one that i didn't expect, that did).

so yeah, i thought this was definitely worth checking out for sure, well done. after the credits there is an extra tiny little moment if you like to stick around for that kinda thing btw. (we always do)

oh and the short at the beginning was well executed, very well done 3D....

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6. "was going to see it Saturday but got sick"
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so we are taking my son Wednesday. The trailers arent doing it for me. But I have seen a couple reviews and those have me optimistic.

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7. "Finally saw it today and meh"
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I agree with your review. It wasn't bad and it wasn't good it was very mediocre. The beginning really dragged. The music was terrible. They packed in way to many songs in the first 20 minutes. 4 if you count the opening ice cutting scene. Which was dope. Really reminded me of dumbo when they were building the tents in the rain. But yeahs the rest of the music was really bad. It picked up in the end. It looked great though. Tangled was so much better than this.

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8. "RE: i agree with you on this one"
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beautiful animation, bland atory, bland songs.
little girls will love it tho
It was entertaining enough and since i did not fall asleep i guess i can give it a pass.

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9. "I liked this better than Tangled."
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I still feel like the climax was a little...anticlimactic, however.

I will give it credit, however, for finding original ways to use the shopworn Disney animated musical elements and _not_ follow the typical story structure of one of these films.

  

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20. "let me qualify this as meaning the movie as a whole, and"
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not the animation.

The effects animation is spectacular, but the character animation is lackluster.

  

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22. "RE: let me qualify this as meaning the movie as a whole, and"
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you like it more because it strays away from typical Disney formula? Pacing problems and bad songs dont matter?

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32. "In my personal opinion, both films suffer a bit from"
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pleasant but unmemorable songs ("Hercules" has bad songs. "Tarzan" had Phil Collins warbling every four minutes. These songs, I'm okay with). "Let It Go" and "Do You Wan to Build a Snowman?" obviously break the curve on comparison, and I rather like "For the First TIme in Forever", derivative as it is.

And I really didn't feel the pacing was uneven for most of the film. As I said before, I'm not fond of the third act. There's not enough action and the handling of the emotional weight isn't enough to make up for it.

This could have been remedied with better editing, better musical score, maybe a little more time spent on seeing the castle destroyed, and, again, better character animation.

  

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10. "This is now the most successful Disney animated film since"
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"The Lion King" with a US/Can box office take of $248 million - and there's numbers being run showing that it could very well outperform TLK's original theatrical run.

And if Idina Menzel's "Let It Go" hits the BIllboard TOp 40 (It's currently at #51), it'll be their first big hit from a Disney animated movie since, I guess, "Tarzan" in 1999?

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11. "yep, thats the one...."
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>And if Idina Menzel's "Let It Go" hits the BIllboard TOp 40
>(It's currently at #51), it'll be their first big hit from a
>Disney animated movie since, I guess, "Tarzan" in 1999?
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yeah THATs the song, and voice, (and scene) right there...My Wife & daughter have been singing 'Let It Go' round the house regularly ever since we saw the flick. (i aint gonna lie, i may have hummed it a few times too ...but yeah thats the key winner right there.

that Menzel is something special...really dig all her performances in everything i've ever heard her do....

  

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13. "Let it Go was the one song that i liked"
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it was the only one that felt natural and not forced. Everything else bad.

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14. "I like the "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" song too"
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Everything else was perhaps a little too modern Broadway for me, and not in a good Ashman/Menken way.

Also - they've somehow gone from $248 mil to $271 mil in a few days. They're printing money.

  

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15. "yeah that one wasnt bad either"
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but yes the music was just forced. Like I said in my review the first 30 minutes were rough. The amount of songs was ridiculous. Every conversation turned into a song. Damn near none of it needed to be a song. I think that added to how slow the beginning was. But once it got going it was great. I didnt think this would do that well. But man like you said it is printing money. I could see a huge merchandise push for this every Christmas. Especially the way they change the scenery at the parks.

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12. "great movie. powerful & moving songs, as well as some more"
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lighthearted ones. olaf is funnier than your typical comedy relief sidekick. some stock characters but the main ones were well-rounded, and as the father of two girls i got misty more than once during the elsa/anna scenes.

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16. "And oh yeah - really enjoyed the Mickey Mouse short before"
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the feature.

However, if you plan on going to see it, do NOT read anything about the movie or the short online, because otherwise it spoils the whole thing.

  

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18. "^Short was great and the movie was decent."
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17. "disappointed... "
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because I thought Tangled was fun to watch...

this movie was very blah imo, and the songs were weak

  

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19. "that joint was so boring. lmao"
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21. "Let It Go is a great song. The rest of the music in this is trash."
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Like really, really bad. Just bland, generic, boring, uninspired trash. It sounded like cuts that wouldn't even have made mid 90's Dreamworks joints.

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23. "^^^^"
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and you know what bugs me is Disney is going to shove this down our throat every Christmas just because its an easy winter tie in. With out that the movie would be forgotten by next year.

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24. "If you weren't moved by "Do You Want To Build a Snowman""
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....then I don't even know what to tell you. That shit hit hard.

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36. "Let It Go was limp to me. Snowman and First Time in Forever crushed me."
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watched 'em again today 24 hours later and I got misty again.


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25. "Have you guys heard the "Explicitly Honest Version" of "Let It Go"?"
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http://www.vulture.com/2014/01/frozen-bobby-lopez-kristen-anderson-lopez-rate-fan-song-versions.html

Fucking hilarious.

And that "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" reprise is crushing.

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26. "This shit is gonna be on Broadway *swipe*"
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Longo is gonna love this.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/01/13/disney-frozen-musical-broadway/

With Aladdin set for a Broadway premiere this February and The Hunchback of Notre Dame long in the works, Disney is looking further ahead to another candidate to bring from the screen to the stage: Frozen.

Disney Theatrical Productions has confirmed to EW that Frozen is in early development for the stage. Disney CEO and chairman Bob Iger dropped the hint to Fortune that discussions have begun to develop the wintry 2013 musical—which is breaking box office records and inspiring all kinds of ebullient fan reactions—into a full-fledged theater production, though he did not specify whether the show would be built for Broadway or as one of the many theatrical attractions at Disney’s parks (where things like Aladdin: A Musical Spectaular and Finding Nemo – The Musical have wound up).

“We’re not demanding speed,” Iger told Fortune in regards to a time frame for the show. “We’re demanding excellence.”

Among Frozen’s promising stage merits are a winning score by Book of Mormon and Avenue Q co-creator Robert Lopez, as well as a voice cast that includes bona fide Broadway singers Idina Menzel (Wicked), Jonathan Groff (Spring Awakening), Josh Gad (The Book of Mormon) and Santino Fontana (Cinderella).

This news piggybacks off another recently rumored Frozen expansion, one that would reportedly involve the development of a theme park attraction at Disney’s EPCOT Center (Disney has not confirmed these plans).

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27. "Reissued today with new "Sing-Along" prints."
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-frozen-sing-along-676174?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thr%2Fnews+(The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+Top+Stories)

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28. "Oh, I never said..."
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I absolutely loved it. Have seen it maybe three times. Shrug.

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29. "It was cool. Didn't mind the songs at all."
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And yes, you could see the "heel turn" a mile away, but it didn't take away from my overall enjoyment of the movie.

I hate that I missed him in Book of Mormon so/but this is the first thing I really enjoyed Josh Gad in. He was tremendous.

When I'm blessed with kids and one of them happens to be a girl, I'm going to show this and Mulan to her. (Corporate-sanctioned) Girl power and whatnot.

Oh, and the short before Frozen was fun as well.

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37. "Gad was great during some intern-themed skits on Daily Show."
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he was like a Republican poll taker at Jewish parties or something, I can't totally remember. but it was real funny.

he was good in New girl too if I remember, but I can't remember what he actually did. I just looked I'm up after, saw his face and thought "random dude from New Girl" before I saw he was also on Daily Show and remembered that.

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30. "Meh"
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Not crazy about the songs, and the way the princesses were animated made them move like Barbie in Toy Story 2 too much.

And the parents being killed was silly too. And who took care of the kingdom for those years?

I didn't quite understand why the town accepted the ice queen as the queen. One second they think she's a horrible witch, the next they're cheering her.

Then I remember "Hey, it's a movie for kids, and kids are stupid."

So, yeah - meh.



P.S. The ice castle building sequence really reminded me of Watchmen too.

  

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31. "RE: Meh"
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>Not crazy about the songs, and the way the princesses were
>animated made them move like Barbie in Toy Story 2 too much.

I have serious issues with the character animation of the humans in this film that may or may not be a discussion beyond the scope of this board, but we essentially agree.

>
>And the parents being killed was silly too. And who took care
>of the kingdom for those years?

Dead parents are a trope of fairy tales and the films they make them from; European authors seemed to prefer writing about orphans. According to the screenwriter, there was an appointed regent who took care of the kingdom until Elsa was old enough to rule (she wanted Louis CK to do the voice), but the part was written out as the film is already a little long.

>
>I didn't quite understand why the town accepted the ice queen
>as the queen. One second they think she's a horrible witch,
>the next they're cheering her.

Because she brought back summer and they all saw her do it. That one made sense to me.

>
>Then I remember "Hey, it's a movie for kids, and kids are
>stupid."

The film isn't intended sole for kids, nor are kids all as inherently stupid as adults claim them to be. If a film is bad or underwritten, whether it's animated or not, it's still bad and underwritten. Especially on $150 mil productions, the bar doesn't get lowered because it's a Disney animated film.

  

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33. "RE: Meh"
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>>And the parents being killed was silly too. And who took
>care
>>of the kingdom for those years?
>
>Dead parents are a trope of fairy tales and the films they
>make them from; European authors seemed to prefer writing
>about orphans. According to the screenwriter, there was an
>appointed regent who took care of the kingdom until Elsa was
>old enough to rule (she wanted Louis CK to do the voice), but
>the part was written out as the film is already a little
>long.

I know it's a trope, but goddamned it was poorly placed. Seems like they were hitting the positions in a bad porn movie - like YOU HAVE TO kill the parents (porn movie:suck his cock) before we can move to the next part of the story (porn movie:fuck her.)

And not having anyone run the Kingdom, or look after the girls (other than the house staff) seem very shallow. (I mean throw in a well meaning guy who's dupe early on and maybe even killed after the princesses leave and it'd have brought more feeling to the movie.)

And that the parents brought to them to the trolls in an otherwise un-magical kingdom seemed weird too. Does the Kingdom have magic or not? Or did only the king/queen and Christop see that? Could be more stories to tell in that universe - or it could be they didn't focus on filling in those details because they needed to add another song where someone's standing by some candy and then singing about it.


>>I didn't quite understand why the town accepted the ice
>queen
>>as the queen. One second they think she's a horrible witch,
>>the next they're cheering her.
>
>Because she brought back summer and they all saw her do it.
>That one made sense to me.

They had also seen her freeze everything , act crazy, be jailed, and be told she murdered her sister too. So she unfreezes everything and it's okay? They're must not be in Republicans in that place, because if they don't stop talking shit on Obama care I can only imagine what they'd do if he Froze the world.

The film was ultimately unsatisfying for me - but it's CLEANING UP and the kids LOVE IT. Broadway musical soon. Three straight to DVD releases, and a sequel, plus a ride and it'll replace Pinocchio in the parks.

But it's no Toy Story 2.

It got my $1.50 at Redbox.

  

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34. "I actually dug this"
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I feel like I've missed (well I wouldn't say MISSED...not watched) almost all of the Disney flicks since The Lion King...and man things have definitely changed.

I was really impressed. There were self-serving characters but no real evil villain. There was a love story but it took a back seat to the love story between the sisters. It even went out of its way not to let the male 'lead' of the story get to duke it out with the character that comes closest to antagonist.

I saw Brave afterward and man, it seems like Disney is finally getting it right. Or at least on the right track...

  

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35. "we all know how we feel, but I finally saw it, so some thoughts post-hyp..."
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This was a strange experience for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it as a comedy, though I wasn't laughing nearly as hard as my girlfriend was and she'd already seen the movie three times. And it was animated wonderfully, it's seriously wild how Pixar continues to one up themselves on that front. But it was also a bit of a lifeless movie, with large scenes being taken up by very plain color palettes. Stuff like Kristoff riding through the snow to a freezing Anna looked like a demo reel from Electronic Arts' 2014 E3 press conference.

I'm also thoroughly underwhelmed by the "Let It Go" song. It comes out of nowhere, the vocals sound oddly forward as if someone suddenly swapped the Blu-Ray out for an audio CD, and lyrically it really isn't that engaging. I loved Anna and Elsa's duet that opened the movie, though, it struck a perfect balance of heartrending and childlike wistfulness. Anna's duet with The Prince was also fantastic, and if I ever have kids they might have to meet Olaf long before Frosty the Snowman. But "Let It Go" just is not the jam it's made out to be, it's a C-tier song sung by an A-list Broadway woman, that's all. As someone who grew up on Mariah Carey CDs I have an appreciation for those kinds of songs, but I just don't get the hype.

Where I feel really torn is the story itself fails to be compelling. The parents dying so early was the one legitimate surprise and it was brushed aside so abruptly one could make an argument the children should have been royal orphans from the very beginning. The rest of the movie plays on a variety of cliches, climaxing in the scene where Sven (a Reindeer who's voice smartly comes from Kristoff's imagination rather than his own mouth) convinces Kristoff to go back for Anna. Prince Whatever-His-Name-Was took a hard swing that wasn't earned at all, as did most of the characters honestly. Decisions were made in this movie just to move the plot along, rarely if ever was any understanding behind those decisions established.

So in the end, I'm left with a movie I enjoyed watching quite a lot, but it was hard to tell how much of that was owed to my girlfriend's uproarious laughter throughout (especially at Olaf). Stripped of the pitch perfect voice acting, the mostly great songs, consistently witty banter and lovably fluid animation of ice and dance, Frozen isn't a good movie and probably isn't even an average one. But that's a whole lot of stuff to strip away from a film just to say I didn't like it. So I'll say I did.


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38. "wat"
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>And it was animated wonderfully, it's seriously wild how Pixar
>continues to one up themselves on that front.

This is not a Pixar production. It was produced by the regular Disney animation studio (the same one that did all the musicals like this one back in the 1990s).

  

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40. "oh, I just assumed. didn't know regular Disney did CGI."
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I didn't see Tangled or Wreck It Ralph and didn't pay attention to the pre-roll on the blu-ray.

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41. "well, they certainly don't do hand-drawn animation."
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All of those people were fired. Twice.

  

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39. "*SPOILERS*"
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>This was a strange experience for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it
>as a comedy, though I wasn't laughing nearly as hard as my
>girlfriend was and she'd already seen the movie three times.
>And it was animated wonderfully, it's seriously wild how Pixar
>continues to one up themselves on that front. But it was also
>a bit of a lifeless movie, with large scenes being taken up by
>very plain color palettes. Stuff like Kristoff riding through
>the snow to a freezing Anna looked like a demo reel from
>Electronic Arts' 2014 E3 press conference.
>
>I'm also thoroughly underwhelmed by the "Let It Go" song. It
>comes out of nowhere, the vocals sound oddly forward as if
>someone suddenly swapped the Blu-Ray out for an audio CD, and
>lyrically it really isn't that engaging. I loved Anna and
>Elsa's duet that opened the movie, though, it struck a perfect
>balance of heartrending and childlike wistfulness. Anna's duet
>with The Prince was also fantastic, and if I ever have kids
>they might have to meet Olaf long before Frosty the Snowman.
>But "Let It Go" just is not the jam it's made out to be, it's
>a C-tier song sung by an A-list Broadway woman, that's all. As
>someone who grew up on Mariah Carey CDs I have an appreciation
>for those kinds of songs, but I just don't get the hype.

LOL we just have to disagree on this one. THere are some weak song s in that movie (the Troll song, for example), but I loved "Let It Go" the second I head it (I saw the film fairly early).

>
>Where I feel really torn is the story itself fails to be
>compelling. The parents dying so early was the one legitimate
>surprise and it was brushed aside so abruptly one could make
>an argument the children should have been royal orphans from
>the very beginning. The rest of the movie plays on a variety
>of cliches, climaxing in the scene where Sven (a Reindeer
>who's voice smartly comes from Kristoff's imagination rather
>than his own mouth) convinces Kristoff to go back for Anna.
>Prince Whatever-His-Name-Was took a hard swing that wasn't
>earned at all, as did most of the characters honestly.
>Decisions were made in this movie just to move the plot along,
>rarely if ever was any understanding behind those decisions
>established.

I've discussed above how I thought the third act was soft, but I didn't mind Prince Hans' heel turn. It was a bit predictable, however - I figured fairly early on that Anna was going to end up with Kristoff and Hans would either have to be (a) the doormat or (b) the heel. His turn only seemingly comes out of nowhere, on purpose, through selective portrayal of events - once he does his villain monologue, it should be clear he had the whole thing planned out from the beginning (Jennifer Lee, the screenwriter, thought of Hans as a psychopath who is good at "mirroring" people so that they like him. She fought off the entire story department, who wanted hints early on that he was evil).

>
>So in the end, I'm left with a movie I enjoyed watching quite
>a lot, but it was hard to tell how much of that was owed to my
>girlfriend's uproarious laughter throughout (especially at
>Olaf). Stripped of the pitch perfect voice acting, the mostly
>great songs, consistently witty banter and lovably fluid
>animation of ice and dance, Frozen isn't a good movie and
>probably isn't even an average one. But that's a whole lot of
>stuff to strip away from a film just to say I didn't like it.
>So I'll say I did.
>

I was gonna say - you take all that away and what's left? A Little Golden Book retelling?

  

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