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"Snowpiercer (Bong Joon-Ho, 2013)"
Tue Jul-01-14 01:19 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

http://twitchfilm.com/2013/06/epic-snowpiercer-trailer-finally-rolls-in.html

Towards the top of my most anticipated list this year.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
After Memories of A Murder, The Host and Mother
Jun 12th 2013
1
oh i am sooo in!
Jun 13th 2013
2
Oh shit! Looks dope as fuck...
Jun 13th 2013
3
Yeah, I'm super jazzed about it. Can't wait to see what they do.
Jun 14th 2013
4
Animated Snowpiercer prequel reveals how the world froze
Jul 22nd 2013
5
Final Korean Trailer
Jul 25th 2013
6
This premise is strange to me, but it looks pretty awesome.
Jul 25th 2013
7
maybe it was because i was at work
Aug 08th 2013
11
This bitch ass nigger Havery Weinstein is cutting out 20 minutes *swipe*
Aug 08th 2013
8
*Second swipe*
Aug 08th 2013
9
      This makes the movie unappealing as hell, and boycottable.
Aug 08th 2013
10
           I'm gonna import the OG version on an all region Blu.
Aug 09th 2013
12
           Yea, I think I'll have to do the same.
Aug 09th 2013
13
           It probably could've used a trim in places, honestly.
Jun 26th 2014
28
                No.
Jun 28th 2014
34
                Completely agree.
Jun 30th 2014
36
It's one thing if you cut 20 minutes from Fast & Furious 8,
Aug 09th 2013
14
Coming uncut to select markets *swipe*
Feb 07th 2014
15
Say word! I'm not gonna get Grandmaster'd!
Feb 07th 2014
16
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Feb 08th 2014
17
Saw this last night, one of the better dystopian post-apocalyptic
Mar 16th 2014
18
where did you see it?
Mar 16th 2014
19
      I live in Belgium, it's been in movie theaters since march 12th
Mar 17th 2014
22
           I've got a real angry face right now.
Mar 17th 2014
23
                Don't be, you still get a good 90% of movie releases first n/m
Mar 18th 2014
24
I really want to see this.
Mar 16th 2014
20
This stupid shit encourages piracy
Mar 16th 2014
21
i wish! i can't even find a copy online. lol
Mar 18th 2014
25
one of the best action movies i've seen in a long time
Mar 22nd 2014
26
Awesome
Jun 26th 2014
27
It's a mess, but it's the kind of mess I love.
Jun 26th 2014
29
Wait better than LONDON?
Jun 26th 2014
30
      RE: Wait better than LONDON?
Jun 26th 2014
31
one of the best movies of the year so far...
Jun 26th 2014
32
Saw it this evening with a Q&A with Bong Joon-Ho.
Jun 28th 2014
33
RE: Snowpiercer (Joon-Ho, 2013)
Jun 30th 2014
35
I found myself loving it!
Jun 30th 2014
37
I liked it, I didn't love it.
Jun 30th 2014
38
how the hell is something great if you dont love it?
Jul 22nd 2014
79
Not to nitpick, but the post title should be Snowpiercer (Bong, 2013)
Jun 30th 2014
39
We have this debate every time, lol.
Jul 01st 2014
40
Saw it. Kinda cliche but not not unenjoyable
Jul 01st 2014
41
Agreed. n/m
Jul 01st 2014
42
Actually, it's a nice allegory on race, government, poltics, and class s...
Jul 01st 2014
43
      But it did absolutely nothing with any of it.
Jul 01st 2014
44
           Actually, they show showed how they're brainwashing the youth
Jul 01st 2014
45
                oh trust...I saw what they was pitching...
Jul 01st 2014
46
                     That sucks for you then. They did it beautifully.
Jul 03rd 2014
49
                     .oooooor....maybe you like softball **shrugs** nm
Jul 04th 2014
50
                          Na nigga.
Jul 04th 2014
51
                               But that's your opinion
Jul 04th 2014
54
                                    thank you for explaining that so eloquently
Jul 04th 2014
55
                                    what deeper meanings? what more nuance
Jul 22nd 2014
81
                     Agreed. (Spoilers)
Jul 04th 2014
52
                          but...(spoiler)
Jul 04th 2014
56
                          For now... (Spoilers)
Jul 05th 2014
58
                               +1 excellent analysis. nm
Jul 05th 2014
59
                          sure there Milton Friedman
Jul 22nd 2014
80
what a world to spend two hours inside.
Jul 03rd 2014
47
Spot on...
Jul 15th 2014
72
      This was probably my biggest disappointment with the film
Jul 15th 2014
73
      they were very par for Hollywood standard
Jul 15th 2014
74
           This was my other problem....
Jul 15th 2014
75
i was reading about this yesterday
Jul 03rd 2014
48
Interesting enough journey to a disappointing destination
Jul 04th 2014
53
Yep. Agree with all that.
Jul 05th 2014
57
your like the David Bammer of PTP.
Jul 22nd 2014
77
Well, this shit was better than Elysium...
Jul 29th 2014
85
RE: Interesting enough journey to a disappointing destination
Jul 22nd 2014
82
Yes. Yes I do.
Jul 29th 2014
84
Yah....The Host was overrated too.
Aug 09th 2014
89
really good
Jul 06th 2014
60
Wildly entertaining.
Jul 07th 2014
61
this is pretty-much where i'm at...very entertaining, worth your time...
Jul 08th 2014
63
      One note
Jul 08th 2014
64
           RE: One note
Jul 09th 2014
65
Pascualino!
Jul 07th 2014
62
I dug it it's not perfect
Jul 09th 2014
66
I enjoyed it. If they'd remove just a TAD bit of the campiness
Jul 10th 2014
67
I thought the same thing, but just assumed that...
Jul 14th 2014
69
I really liked this quite a bit.
Jul 14th 2014
68
I thought it started v promising but ugh @ them changing the ending
Jul 14th 2014
70
Good, not great
Jul 15th 2014
71
i thought it was great
Jul 21st 2014
76
IT WAS GREAT.
Jul 22nd 2014
78
Cheesy but entertaining
Jul 25th 2014
83
I heard the imagery borrows a lot from Bioshock.
Jul 30th 2014
86
Not really.
Jul 30th 2014
87
i saw it. there were definite similarities.
Nov 18th 2014
90
now that was a great movie!!!!
Aug 06th 2014
88
this flick was so damn fresh
Nov 18th 2014
91
i liked it quite a bit
Nov 21st 2014
92
RE: Slaves on a train. smh (possible spoiler)
Nov 27th 2014
93

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1. "After Memories of A Murder, The Host and Mother"
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this guy has my money opening day.

  

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2. "oh i am sooo in!"
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i'm totally there opening day if it comes out where I am...which it should.

the trailer is great...let me find out Minny Jackson from the help is capping fools and shit!

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3. "Oh shit! Looks dope as fuck..."
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I'll peep this.

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4. "Yeah, I'm super jazzed about it. Can't wait to see what they do."
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5. "Animated Snowpiercer prequel reveals how the world froze"
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Snowpiercer(2013) Special Animation Full Version HD (ENG.)
Special launch of SNOWPIERCER animation clip that unfolds the stories of the world before the train departs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb3UQgb2ObA

  

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6. "Final Korean Trailer"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl_5bHZ9PyQ

  

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7. "This premise is strange to me, but it looks pretty awesome."
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11. "maybe it was because i was at work"
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but the trailer i wasnt getting
but they cast octavia


ok caught the summary on wikipedia
i get it now
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8. "This bitch ass nigger Havery Weinstein is cutting out 20 minutes *swipe*"
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http://collider.com/the-weinstein-company-cutting-snowpiercer/

I’ve been really looking forward to Bong Joon-ho‘s post-apocalyptic thriller, Snowpiercer, but I guess I’ll have to wait to see his original cut. Even though the movie is a hit in Bong’s native South Korea, The Weinstein Company is handling distribution in the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. According to if.com.au, “Weinstein is demanding Bong slash the 126-minute running time by 20 minutes for the version to be released in TWC’s territories,” to which Bong responded that the cuts “would eliminate much of the character detail, which would make the film seem more like an action movie. Weinstein is also adding opening and closing voice-overs.”

Hit the jump for more. The film stars Chris Evans, John Hurt, Tilda Swinton, Jamie Bell, Ed Harris, Ewen Bremner, Octavia Spencer, Ko Asung, and Kang-ho Song. Snowpiercer currently doesn’t have a U.S. release date.

So why the changes? “TWC people have told Bong that their aim is to make sure the film ‘will be understood by audiences in Iowa … and Oklahoma,’” English writer and film festival programmer Tony Rayns tells IF. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Weinstein wants to diminish the roles of South Korean actors Kang-ho Song and Ko Asung because they ain’t good hard-werkin’ ‘Mericans like dem Okies. As for Canada, the U.K., Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, I’m not sure why they have to suffer the same indignity.

Harvey Weinstein is notorious for cutting up his movies, and it’s a shame that he thinks so little of American audiences. Then again, I’m sure they don’t think much of him either (if they think of him at all).

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9. "*Second swipe*"
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63588

As one of the driving forces behind the independent film revolution of the 1990s, Harvey Weinstein should be regarded as a hero of modern cinema. But the producer/distributor has a problem that's dogged him throughout his career: he thinks he's an editor.

Weinstein's post-production interference is legendary, especially when it comes to Asian films. There was the dubbing disaster of Hayao Miyazaki's PRINCESS MONONOKE, the savaging of Stephen Chow's SHAOLIN SOCCER (from which twenty-three minutes were haphazardly jettisoned) and the attempted truncation/burial of Zhang Yimou's wonderful HERO (which spent two years on the shelf before Quentin Tarantino intervened). To Weinstein's credit, he has been upfront about his meddling. "I'm not cutting for fun," he told the The New Yorker in 2002. "I'm cutting for the shit to work. All my life I served one master: the film. I love movies."

This is a laughably arrogant notion that assumes master filmmakers like Miyazaki, Zhang and Chow don't know what "works". Weinstein would probably counter that they don't understand what works for Western audiences, to whom he's attempting to market these strange films populated with people who talk funny. But if you really love movies, how can you in good conscience shave a Zhang Yimou film down to its most salable elements? At this point, you're doing both the director and the moviegoer a disservice: the former's vision is compromised, while the latter gets stuck with a generic piece of product.

The latest films to undergo the Harvey Scissorhands treatment are Wong Kar-wai's THE GRANDMASTER and Bong Joon-ho's SNOWPIERCER. These are pictures by two world-class, award-winning filmmakers who are renowned for being meticulous in every aspect of production (sometimes to a fault in Wong's case); they're visual storytellers who take great pains in the establishing of motifs that pay off beautifully as the tale progresses. Forcing them to yank whole chunks out of their movies for fear of alienating American audiences with their daunting otherness is outrageous.

We've known for a while now that The Weinstein Company will be releasing a slightly abbreviated cut of THE GRANDMASTER, which is disappointing but not terribly surprising given the film's mixed critical reception. But now we're hearing, via esteemed British film writer Tony Rayns, that Weinstein has ordered Bong Joon-ho to take twenty minutes out of SNOWPIERCER for its theatrical release in the U.S., England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Though the post-apocalyptic sci-fi film has received rave reviews (while cleaning up at the Korean box office), Weinstein evidently believes the English-speaking world is too stupid to appreciate it at its intended length. Here's how Rayns explained the situation to IF Magazine:

TWC people have told Bong that their aim is to make sure the film ‘will be understood by audiences in Iowa ... and Oklahoma.' Leaving aside the issue of what Weinstein thinks of its audience, it seems to say the least anomalous that the rest of the English-speaking world has to be dragged down to the presumed level of American mid-west hicks.

SNOWPIERCER stars the highly marketable Chris Evans, and features an impressive supporting cast that includes Tilda Swinton, Ed Harris, Jamie Bell, Song Kang-ho, Octavia Spencer, John Hurt and Ko Ah-sung. The Hollywood Reporter praised its "universally comprehensible theme and accessible aesthetics", but, fuck it, Weinstein still thinks Bong could stand to lose an entire reel. What's the upshot for TWC? I suppose it's possible they could eke out one more screening per day at 106 minutes, but why treat SNOWPIERCER like a one-weekend smash-and-grab ala SCARY MOVIE V? If the film isn't commercial at 126 minutes, it's not going to become magically accessible at 106. But if the film is fine as is, serve your master, Harvey. Show us that you love movies, and release Bong's cut. The director of MEMORIES OF MURDER, THE HOST and MOTHER deserves better, and so do we.

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10. "This makes the movie unappealing as hell, and boycottable."
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12. "I'm gonna import the OG version on an all region Blu."
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Weinstein's reasons for cutting are asinine but why do other international markets have to suffer also?

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13. "Yea, I think I'll have to do the same."
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Frank Longo
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28. "It probably could've used a trim in places, honestly."
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Maybe not 20 minutes... but this might've been a film that could've used an edit.

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34. "No."
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36. "Completely agree."
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14. "It's one thing if you cut 20 minutes from Fast & Furious 8,"
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it's another when you cut it from someone like Boon.


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15. "Coming uncut to select markets *swipe*"
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=114587

Deadline is reporting that director Bong Joon-Ho's film Snowpiercer, which was said to be undergoing cuts for its American debut, will instead premiere uncut when it finally gets released later this year. The site does note that the film will no longer receive as wide of a release as initially planned, due to its now uncut status, but will instead begin in limited release and roll out to other markets.

The film, based on the French graphic novel “Le Transperceneige,” is set in a future where, after a failed experiment to stop global warming, an Ice Age kills off all life on the planet except for the inhabitants of the Snow Piercer, a train that travels around the globe and is powered by a sacred perpetual-motion engine. A class system evolves on the train but a revolution brews.

Chris Evans, Song Kangho, Tilda Swinton, Jamie Bell, Octavia Spencer, Ewen Brewmner, Alison Pill, John Hurt and Ed Harris star in the thriller.

Read more: Bong Joon-Ho's Snowpiercer to Premiere Uncut in America - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=114587#ixzz2sf7zOJic
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16. "Say word! I'm not gonna get Grandmaster'd!"
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17. "YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!"
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Bong Joon-Ho WON! He WON, motherfuckers! HE WON!

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18. "Saw this last night, one of the better dystopian post-apocalyptic"
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movies of the past few years. Quite a few twists & revelations I didn't see coming (and it's all very intense), enough (dark) humor and great great action sequences.
The dialogues/monologues are sometimes more brutal than the violence.
Tilda Swinton is awesome, Evans was good, Kang-Ho Son's character was my favorite.

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19. "where did you see it?"
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22. "I live in Belgium, it's been in movie theaters since march 12th"
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here.

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23. "I've got a real angry face right now."
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I mean, that's cool for you, but I'm mad.


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24. "Don't be, you still get a good 90% of movie releases first n/m"
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20. "I really want to see this."
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Don't block bitch.

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25. "i wish! i can't even find a copy online. lol"
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http://youtu.be/5o37GORoKUQ

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26. "one of the best action movies i've seen in a long time"
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just finished watching this film and i'm going to strongly recommend it to everyone. i didn't know much about it going in, and frankly i didn't really like boon's earlier movies, but this one was very enjoyable. good storytelling and character development, the action scenes are tense and well done, and the whole movie is suspenseful and engaging.

i'm not a big fan of chris evans, but i thought he was pretty good in this except for a closing monologue. tilda, hurt, and the rest of the supporting cast were all great. the music was good, the set pieces were cool, just an all around strong film that i would definitely put in my top 10 for 2013.

i had a few minor gripes, and the version (126 minutes btw) i saw didn't have subtitles for the non-english speaking characters, but i urge everyone to see this and spread the word.

  

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27. "Awesome"
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I don't know why I waited so long to watch this. I loved the fact that they don't treat the viewer like an idiot. There's very little fat on this. Plenty of twists. Scenes and acting were good enough - could have been prettier but still great. I can see why they wanted to cut some of the ending and the lack of subtitles bothered me a little.

  

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29. "It's a mess, but it's the kind of mess I love."
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It really is positively all over the place-- breakneck speed at times, slow at times, wildly over-the-top funny at times, wildly over-the-top grim at times, sometimes action, sometimes horror, sometimes broad comedy.

But it's interesting as shit. Hollywood needs more movies like this.

Evans does career-best work, Swinton continues to own all, and there are real moments of greatness in this flick.

Definitely worth seeking out.

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30. "Wait better than LONDON?"
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31. "RE: Wait better than LONDON?"
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>


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32. "one of the best movies of the year so far..."
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...And yeah, it's only June, but this flick was a blast.
A great introduction to Bong Joon Ho's movies.
As far as sci-fi dystopia goes, it didn't bore you with minutiae (see that last Terminator movie), nor did it "overdo the boom" (last Total Recall movie). Movie went at an exciting pace without losing depth.
I have no idea why anyone would want to make an "American" cut - this cut worked great.
Tilda Swinton is, well, she's Tilda Swinton. Nothing short of amazing.
I've never been a Chris Evans fan, so for me to say I liked him in this is saying something.
Rest of the cast is great.
The last half hour is probably the weakest of the movie, but that's an easily forgiven fault.
Definitely a "pay to see it in the theatre" movie.



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33. "Saw it this evening with a Q&A with Bong Joon-Ho."
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It's my favorite film of the year hands down.

Works on so many levels.

More later.

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35. "RE: Snowpiercer (Joon-Ho, 2013)"
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This movie was a pleasure from beginning to end. Over the top in a way that made you wish Hollywood was more focused on creating great films than making money. Chris Evans lack of range and the ending were the weak points, but Tilda Swinton and Octavia "we want chicken!" Spencer were on point.

  

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37. "I found myself loving it!"
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Definitely going to be high up there on my top 10 for the year!

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38. "I liked it, I didn't love it."
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It's definitely a great film and it's in my top 10 this year, but maybe went in with real high expectations, but I just never really connected with it on the level I wanted to. I don't know what it was. I want to give it another viewing and see if I can pinpoint exactly what didn't hit.

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79. "how the hell is something great if you dont love it?"
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39. "Not to nitpick, but the post title should be Snowpiercer (Bong, 2013)"
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40. "We have this debate every time, lol."
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I've written Bong and had people say "shouldn't we write Joon-Ho, since it's the latter of the two names, and in print it's still Bong Joon-Ho, unlike, say, Doona Bae, who now goes as that when in America?"

Then I've written Joon-Ho and gotten the obvious comments about how it's technically wrong back.

I'll just change it to the full name and end the debate, lol.

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41. "Saw it. Kinda cliche but not not unenjoyable"
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I think all the "Best film of the year" comments are reactionary as shit. It's a pretty straightforward parable on redemption with a lil' wool pulled over your eyes for good measure.

Nice popcorn flick.

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42. "Agreed. n/m"
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43. "Actually, it's a nice allegory on race, government, poltics, and class s..."
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>I think all the "Best film of the year" comments are
>reactionary as shit. It's a pretty straightforward parable on
>redemption with a lil' wool pulled over your eyes for good
>measure.
>
>Nice popcorn flick.
>
>D

It's more than a popcorn flick when you sit down and think about it.

Octivia Spencer getting beaten by the guards reminded me a lot about Rodney King.

The people in the front of the train where exclusively white. While the back of the train was run like a concentration camp with it's passengers covered in black soot. Also, the minorities are at the back as well.

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44. "But it did absolutely nothing with any of it."
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It drew a parallel and that was the extent. The only interaction of merit with anyone in the "Front Class" was in the classroom, and even there they did nothing to give any development of what it was like to be a member of the higher social rank, other than "They smile and sing songs."

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45. "Actually, they show showed how they're brainwashing the youth"
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with the "class rights" and politics. They constantly refer the end car citizens as animals as a lot people would do with the homeless.

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46. "oh trust...I saw what they was pitching..."
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ain't my fault the pitch was coming underhand.

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49. "That sucks for you then. They did it beautifully. "
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50. ".oooooor....maybe you like softball **shrugs** nm"
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51. "Na nigga."
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If it didn't work for you then fine. But they did it excellently.

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54. "But that's your opinion"
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DVS isn't saying it didn't work for him; he's saying it was a basic, softball level. You called it an allegory but an allegory is a story with a hidden meaning. There was no hiding anything in this. The scene about brainwashing was literally kids in a classroom getting brainwashed. The scene that reminded you of Rodney King was a black woman getting beaten by a cop-type guy. The class of people in the world were the class of ticket they had on the train.

The train was an obvious microcosm of society. If the nail on the head manner it was presented works for you, great. And it being nail on the head doesn't mean it wasn't done well, it just means it was nail on the head. If you like subtlety, nuance, or films that cover their deeper meaning at all, then this film will seem like a softball.

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55. "thank you for explaining that so eloquently"
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saved me the carpal tunnel

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81. "what deeper meanings? what more nuance"
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The universals like "love" or "compassion" or "empathy" or "mercy" or "in-di-vid-ual trans-for-mation"

Lofl

  

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52. "Agreed. (Spoilers)"
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SPOILERS

And in the end, they were fucked without the system. Everyone died when the train was destroyed save for the girl and kid who were not going to survive for long in the mountain.

I mean, as a parable, it basically only works as, "1%, treat the people beneath you better or they'll revolt and ruin everything."

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56. "but...(spoiler)"
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they DO survive.

In the original setup....dude's arm froze solid in 7 minutes, right?

So...CONVENIENTLY....right after the junkie redeems himself by blowing the train door....
Right after the dude who didn't give his arm...GASP....gives his arm....

They emerge from the train....wearing a fucking parka....and what do they see?!?

OH MY GOD....ITS A POLAR BEAR!!!

IT'S SAFE TO COME OUT NOW!!! YIPPEEEEEEE!!!!!

c'mon dog.

The movie was good for what it was but let's not pretend it was fucking Citizen Kane up in this bitch.

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58. "For now... (Spoilers)"
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I get that they aren't freezing to death and they see the polar beat so it's all good but what then? Yes, they won't freeze to death immediately but they could still freeze to death since all they have are some parkas and I'm sure temps will dip when night comes. They also need to kill that polar bear if they want something to eat. Although my money's on the bear.

I'm giving two kids in fur coats who have lived on a train for their entire lives two days at most in those mountains.

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59. "+1 excellent analysis. nm"
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80. "sure there Milton Friedman"
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47. "what a world to spend two hours inside."
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it's easy to go all-in on brooding or eccentric. balancing both is harder. doing all that from second to second, without pulling the viewer out of either mindset, is incredibly deft directing. huge credit to Bong, as live-action movies rarely have the kind of imagination and wonderment captured here.

flaws do abound: the 10-year-old CGI, jarring discrepancies in acting (even for the noble Ed Harris), a weird soundtrack, and themes that puttered out at a shallow depth for me. but it's a special ride nonetheless.

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72. "Spot on..."
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>it's easy to go all-in on brooding or eccentric. balancing
>both is harder. doing all that from second to second, without
>pulling the viewer out of either mindset, is incredibly deft
>directing. huge credit to Bong, as live-action movies rarely
>have the kind of imagination and wonderment captured here.
>
>flaws do abound: the 10-year-old CGI, jarring discrepancies in
>acting (even for the noble Ed Harris), a weird soundtrack, and
>themes that puttered out at a shallow depth for me. but it's a
>special ride nonetheless.

I agree with all of that, however I think the "flaws" you mentioned weighed it down a little more heavily for me than they did for you.

I respect the originally and the effort, though, and a lot of the execution. It really took off for me about an hour into it once they finally got past the water purification cart.

Did anyone else think most of the "action" scenes (especially the earliest ones) were borderline poorly done? I mean, to me, they were pretty unremarkable: overly fast editing, shaky cam, quick zooms and pans, etc. It wasn't really clear to me where the fuck anyone was or who was doing what to whom.

Those scenes were weak IMO. The sauna scene and the kindergarten scenes were alone worth the ticket price, though. Overall, I'm glad I watched it and I'm glad it exists as an alternative to the rest of the bullshit that's out there in the megaplexes...

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73. "This was probably my biggest disappointment with the film"
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>Did anyone else think most of the "action" scenes (especially
>the earliest ones) were borderline poorly done?

It might be my own fault, but I was expecting the action to be more spectacular. And when it wasn't I kinda felt let down.

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74. "they were very par for Hollywood standard"
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>Did anyone else think most of the "action" scenes (especially
>the earliest ones) were borderline poorly done? I mean, to me,
>they were pretty unremarkable: overly fast editing, shaky cam,
>quick zooms and pans, etc. It wasn't really clear to me where
>the fuck anyone was or who was doing what to whom.

so agreed. incoherent quick cuts without a sense of space has become the staple for most blockbuster action movies; that style displaced bullet-time as the go-to technique whenever a director can't shoot a fight.

it's gotten even harder to watch after seeing the brilliant action from The Raid 2.

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75. "This was my other problem...."
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>it's gotten even harder to watch after seeing the brilliant
>action from The Raid 2.

I watched SNOWPIERCER after watching the RAID 2 earlier in the day.

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48. "i was reading about this yesterday"
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i'm skeptical, but i wanna see it...what i read in EW said that the studio decided to go with the original uncut version for the US release...

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53. "Interesting enough journey to a disappointing destination"
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---- SPOILERS----

Everything about the film is basic. Basic plot (Get to the front of the train), fairly basic characters, basic message, basic acting. hit a lot of the basic cliches. Nothing besides the world building of the train was really all that intriguing.

It was kind of blunt force cinema in terms of the fights and plans. Nothing too clever about their approach or attacks and the fight choreography wasn't much. I was excited when the tattoed due was let loose but then he just kind of did a basic move.

The girl being the "Just a second too late clairvoyant" seemed completely unnecessary and basically after the second door, that element disappeared. The #2 guy coming back was also unnecessary. I'd have cut the whole Evans v. #2 shooting guns through the window moment.

Honestly, the Jamie Bell character wasn't even that necessary. Evans's turmoil about saving him didn't make sense until we were told why later but, ultimately, it didn't really matter.

All in all, a decent flick but wildly overrated IMO.

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57. "Yep. Agree with all that."
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77. "your like the David Bammer of PTP."
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85. "Well, this shit was better than Elysium..."
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the last simple "message" movie that you called me David Bammer in. But I stand by that movie being disappointing.

I mean, shit, I've been pretty damn positive about movies this year and you still fall back on your weak "David Bammer" name calling when you disagree with me on a movie I said was entertaining but disappointing in terms of overall message and the ending.

You probably would have hated on me if I'd posted that Robocop was skippable.

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82. "RE: Interesting enough journey to a disappointing destination"
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>
>Honestly, the Jamie Bell character wasn't even that necessary.
>Evans's turmoil about saving him didn't make sense until we
>were told why later but, ultimately, it didn't really matter.
>
>All in all, a decent flick but wildly overrated IMO.

Lofl. Do you even believe the stupid shit you write?

If it didn't eventually mean something he would've took over the train like God-Man wanted. The impetus for him facing the architect was that he killed his boys mom to eat her and him at the train's genesis. Boy dies in the rebellion and Captain American needs change and vengence, because God-Man's capitalist bullshit was trying to sell that disproportionate social equilibrium pill. FOH.

He doesn't sacrified his arm, and then life, to give others the opportunity to try ANOTHER "ECOSYSTEM" if it all meant nothing. Yall assuming er'one died

  

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84. "Yes. Yes I do."
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>Lofl. Do you even believe the stupid shit you write?


>If it didn't eventually mean something he would've took over
>the train like God-Man wanted. The impetus for him facing the
>architect was that he killed his boys mom to eat her and him
>at the train's genesis. Boy dies in the rebellion and Captain
>American needs change and vengence, because God-Man's
>capitalist bullshit was trying to sell that disproportionate
>social equilibrium pill. FOH.

FOH indeed. You could have cut out Jamie Bell's character and not changed the movie much at all. John Hurt's sacrifice showed Chris Evans what he was doing was wrong. And it wasn't like when Jamie Bell died that anything changed that Chris Evans suddenly needed vengeance. Like the years of living in shit and the kids being kidnapped wasn't enough for that. I mean, they were already mid-revolution when Bell died. LOL at some "NOW THIS IS PERSONAL!" bullshit reading.

I don't know why you feel that need to always lash out at me (hilariously, the last time you did it, you ended up having the same take on the film as I did once you actually watched it.)


>He doesn't sacrified his arm, and then life, to give others
>the opportunity to try ANOTHER "ECOSYSTEM" if it all meant
>nothing. Yall assuming er'one died

Yeah I'm assuming everyone died in that massive crash. And I'm not sure how more people surviving and having nothing to survive in the mountain is going to make things better.

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89. "Yah....The Host was overrated too."
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They're fun movies....but c'mon, these are basically paint-by-numbers social commentary flicks. There is absolutely no substance or depth to this stuff. It works as kitsch and I enjoy it on that level. In that context....the crazier/more absurd it gets the better. But there's nothing to think about it here.

  

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60. "really good"
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now *this* should be a summer blockbuster


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61. "Wildly entertaining."
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I loved the concept quite a bit and found it to be somewhat unique, even as it touched on elements of Brazil, the end of The Matrix Reloaded (when Curtis gets to the front of the train and meets Wilford) and the last 45 minutes of Escape from New York (with people getting picked off on the way to the goal).

We can quibble over the execution of said concept (no, actually, let's not), but even still the movie kept me engaged. Tilda was very funny but I was surprised she didn't last that long. And I think it would have been unrealistic for everyone to make it to the head of the train, honestly. I didn't mind that we had b-list and c-list cannon fodder aligned with Chris Evans. The movie had a simple-enough setup and followed through on it, and that was fine by me.

I enjoyed it.

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63. "this is pretty-much where i'm at...very entertaining, worth your time..."
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>RE: Wildly entertaining.
>I loved the concept quite a bit and found it to be somewhat
>unique, even as it touched on elements of Brazil, the end of
>The Matrix Reloaded (when Curtis gets to the front of the
>train and meets Wilford) and the last 45 minutes of Escape
>from New York (with people getting picked off on the way to
>the goal).
>
>We can quibble over the execution of said concept (no,
>actually, let's not), but even still the movie kept me
>engaged. Tilda was very funny but I was surprised she didn't
>last that long. And I think it would have been unrealistic
>for everyone to make it to the head of the train, honestly. I
>didn't mind that we had b-list and c-list cannon fodder
>aligned with Chris Evans. The movie had a simple-enough setup
>and followed through on it, and that was fine by me.
>
>I enjoyed it.
>

i enjoyed the heck out of it. had a good time and was genuinely entertained....
no it wasn't subtle at all, but 'subtle' is not a requirement for 'good' and 'subtle' definitely doesn't automatically equal 'good'. sometimes simple & straightforward can be just as satisfying if executed appropriately, and this was if you ask me. Simple & straightforward yes, yet still interesting and containing unpredictable elements as well (I like the mash-up of serious/semi-grounded/over-the-top/drama/comedy/violence & action) ... ultimately a really satisfying ride.
WAY more satisfying than most the other films i've seen this year for sure so am GLAD to give my $ to support films like this one!

  

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64. "One note"
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>no it wasn't subtle at all, but 'subtle' is not a requirement
>for 'good' and 'subtle' definitely doesn't automatically equal
>'good'. sometimes simple & straightforward can be just as
>satisfying if executed appropriately, and this was if you ask
>me. Simple & straightforward yes, yet still interesting and
>containing unpredictable elements as well (I like the mash-up
>of serious/semi-grounded/over-the-top/drama/comedy/violence &
>action) ... ultimately a really satisfying ride.

The "subtle" discussion above wasn't so much about the quality of the movie as a popcorn flick but at those saying that there was a deeper meaning. The key line that was being responded to being, "It's more than a popcorn flick when you sit down and think about it."

The more you think about it, the worse it gets IMO. I was along for the ride (no pun intended) up until the end when Ed Harris just droned on and on. And as an allegory, it doesn't really work. But the build up in the beginning, any moment with Tilda Swinton and Allison Pill, etc. made for an entertaining enough flick.

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65. "RE: One note"
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>>no it wasn't subtle at all, but 'subtle' is not a
>requirement
>>for 'good' and 'subtle' definitely doesn't automatically
>equal
>>'good'. sometimes simple & straightforward can be just as
>>satisfying if executed appropriately, and this was if you
>ask
>>me. Simple & straightforward yes, yet still interesting and
>>containing unpredictable elements as well (I like the
>mash-up
>>of serious/semi-grounded/over-the-top/drama/comedy/violence
>&
>>action) ... ultimately a really satisfying ride.
>
>The "subtle" discussion above wasn't so much about the quality
>of the movie as a popcorn flick but at those saying that there
>was a deeper meaning. The key line that was being responded to
>being, "It's more than a popcorn flick when you sit down and
>think about it."
>
>The more you think about it, the worse it gets IMO. I was
>along for the ride (no pun intended) up until the end when Ed
>Harris just droned on and on. And as an allegory, it doesn't
>really work. But the build up in the beginning, any moment
>with Tilda Swinton and Allison Pill, etc. made for an
>entertaining enough flick.>

and i do agree with you on your point about the Ed Harris character, (not spoiler technically but maybe>>>) i do also think that his heavy handed over-explanitory speech was a weak point of the flick too. That said, it didn't destroy my overall enjoyment the movie for me though. its kinda like if you were dating some lady who's great looking, a barrel of fun to be with and makes you laugh n stuff, and i dont know, maybe you find out later she has only 3 toes on on one of her feet. Ok ...ok...maybe its not exactly like that....but maybe you find out that she hates all music, and you're a music lover... i dont know...maybe its not like that either lol....but you know what i'm saying.

So nope, there wasnt a 'hidden' meaning, (because it wasnt really 'hidden'), but there was a 'dual-meaning'... literal/metaphorical. But nope it wasnt hidden or subtle at all, by any means. it was laid right out there for ya, right next to all of the other cool, fun, quirky & entertaining stuff that this movies world created. And, quite simply, i dug that world.

Basically while this movie isnt perfect. (few movies are to be honest),..but i felt it IS worth my time & money. I did have a ball, i left it feeling like i had a good time and felt more satisfied than not.
not as satisfied as i did when i saw his other movie "The Host" which i friggin LOVED all the way in every way. Not as satisfied as when i left the FIRST 'Iron Man' movie which i loved all the way in every way. Not as satisfied as did when i left 'Pans Labrynth' which i friggin LOVED all the way in every way ( Pans is my SH%%T!!).... BUT i absolutely DID have a good time at Snowpiercer. and i'd bet that if i looked at the list of 16 movies that are showing in the mainstream theater down the street from me now, this one would be better, more interesting and satisfying than 80% to 90% of them...even with its admitted three toes..

  

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62. "Pascualino!"
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I knew I recognized that cutie


It was cool quite entertaining omg Tilda proves once again why she's an all time fav
Cinematography/CGI was really good
Plot a bit weak and hit you over the head
But eff it
I might could have used the anti hero thing a bit more at the beginning
I suspected something was wrong but would have preferred to have lived in a more grey area for most of the movie I think I would have felt the loss of Edgar more
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66. "I dug it it's not perfect"
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but what movie is really?

i'm not sure what folk were expecting who called it "a mess" or stating that it's "grand end goals", etc. were weak and barely there when it was sitting right there, all in your face.

And that was the point. NONE of this was subtle and I enjoyed that.

Did any of you read the graphic novel this is based on? because you'd be even mad as fuck with that...

Solid performances across the board...Tilda Swinton is a beast...she was utter hilarity.

Chris Evans was actually serviceable here for once, though damn, it was clear he needed to have some serious emotional moments and homie couldn't do it to save his LIFE...smh

But it was a great popcorn movie and WAY better than most of the summer blockbusters playing right now...

Good film and worth my money...

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67. "I enjoyed it. If they'd remove just a TAD bit of the campiness"
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that keeps it from being real in a way that the campiness of 12 monkeys was it'd be better. like there's only one room of each type? (one class room, one drug den, one club, one home). and something else... whatever. at least put some hallways in there somewhere.

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69. "I thought the same thing, but just assumed that..."
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They walked through a lot that we didn't see, b/c that train was long as hell.

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68. "I really liked this quite a bit."
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I love the Asian influence and dystopian notes (thanks to Boon Jong Ho, who does some awesome things here), and gives Chris Evans some real meat to chew on throughout the movie (no pun intended).

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70. "I thought it started v promising but ugh @ them changing the ending"
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actually they changed a bunch of things from the graphic novel but IMO it's an all-time classic so I can appreciate Boon tried to do his own thing. Ed Harris was laughably cast but otherwise I thought all the actors did well, with special kudos to Evans

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71. "Good, not great "
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It was pretty interesting overall, but I can see why the release was limited. I don't see it being a blockbuster hit movie, but it is as good or better than a lot of them.

  

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76. "i thought it was great"
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didn't care about Evans emotional range, and while the movie has it's problem i was properly entertained all the way up to the end... they bring up small concepts along the way and then move on, kinda forcing the viewer to make their own opinion on the issues they see..i liked all that...

i dunno why people think only those two survived, or won't survive...it's left open on purpose....

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78. "IT WAS GREAT. "
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Good acting, great pacing, tense action, and layers for days

I thought they were about to ruin it through Ed Harris' pseudo darwinian capitalist propaganda, but they redeemed the post-socialist theme by the final credits

A+

Easily my favorite movie of the year ahead of Under The Skin and Winter Soldier

  

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83. "Cheesy but entertaining"
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86. "I heard the imagery borrows a lot from Bioshock."
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that has me more interested than I was, I don't think I'll be able to catch it in theaters though.



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87. "Not really."
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Unless you count the one compartment that has folks dressed in some roaring twenties attire.

Folks boarded the train sometime in the early 21st century, so much of the visual design assumes technology and culture essentially froze (no pun intended) at that point and has slowly declined or modulated based on social status. But it's not really a "steampunk" aesthetic, especially since the it's not a steam-based train.

  

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90. "i saw it. there were definite similarities."
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88. "now that was a great movie!!!!"
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Man I literally fell asleep for a few minutes of Guardians of the Galaxy. Everyone has been praising the hell out of it so I thought that maybe I'm just getting old and tired.

But I just saw this tonight. Holy fuck that was a great movie. Chris Evans was seriously great in it--the first time he's really shined. Song Kang-ho did his thing too. Tilda was really good for the smallish role she was given. hell, everyone was good. The movie is intense, and you even feel invested in the smaller characters that, in some cases, you know don't have a chance of surviving.

This, Cap 2 and The Edge of Tomorrow are the best flicks I've seen in the theater this year.

  

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91. "this flick was so damn fresh"
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Just finished it

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92. "i liked it quite a bit"
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i actually liked the fact that it wasn't as polished. for the settings they created it wouldn't have made sense if the fighting was too stylized or that the plan wasn't something out of Oceans Eleven. made it feel a bit more real imo. and there was obviously some flaws, but if you can go with the idea that all of mankind is on a high-speed train hurtling around the world, then i can let most of them go.

  

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93. "RE: Slaves on a train. smh (possible spoiler)"
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White slaves on a train. rofl


Hungry white slaves on a train, lawd have mercy. lol. I loved this film but i got one question. How does Tanya (Spencer) survive being around all them hungry white folks? OK i think i know. The New World Order (main theme of movie) is gonna put an end to racism because everybody will be slaves. On the other hand she could have survived because she was the nicest black person on the train. so they did not eat her. lol

Well anyway, Snowpiercer, is this years best thinking man's film. Forget about Interstellar. Now i don't agree with everything in the movie but i do agree with it's message about revolutions. There has been no true revolution on planet earth.The hegelian dialectic existed long before Hegel was even born. One of this years best films.

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