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"The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Webb, 2014)"
Thu May-01-14 11:31 AM by Frank Longo

          

We got:

-Peter dealing with his past. Still.

-Peter's relationship Gwen.

-The Gwen Stacy Saga. (Pics of Emma were taken on set of her wearing the SAME EXACT clothes, down to the color and all, by what it looks to be the Brooklyn Bridge)

-The return of Harry Osbourne in Peter's life.

-Mary Jane is introduced in this one.

-Electro. (I know niggas hate the look, but J. Foxx looks alright to me)

-Paul Giamatti as The Rhino. Once again, Paul Giamatti as The Rhino. Let that sink in. Paul Giamatti as The Rhino.

Has no one learned their lesson for Spider-Man 3? Also, instead of calling this The Amazing Spider-Man 2, why not just call it The Spectacular Spider-Man?

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this is heading the way of fantastic 4
May 27th 2013
1
I think Giamatti is an amazing choice.
May 27th 2013
2
Giamatti is far too hammy for this. He's going to be awful.
May 27th 2013
3
      ^^^^Exactly.
May 27th 2013
4
      He's playing The Rhino. I don't want him to be a master of subtlety.
May 27th 2013
5
           I don't want him to be a master of subtlety. Paul is more spam than ham.
May 27th 2013
6
shit i'm still afraid to watch the first one.
May 28th 2013
7
You're nuts. It blew the other 3 before it out the water.
May 28th 2013
8
First one was good.
May 28th 2013
10
^^^Yup. Agreed on all points.
May 28th 2013
11
I agree with both of y'all niggas.
May 28th 2013
12
      I hate the casting choice for Rhino, but I loved the first
May 28th 2013
16
First one was good... with a shitty villain.
May 28th 2013
17
      Shitty is overstating IMO. I'd just call him lacking.
May 28th 2013
18
The people above are horrible and wrong
Jun 12th 2013
23
exactly! the first one was so bad!
Dec 15th 2013
61
You should be
Apr 08th 2014
88
Its going to be good.
May 28th 2013
9
So now we're not even waiting for the movie to drop before bitching
May 28th 2013
13
When has waiting for the film ever been the case?
May 28th 2013
14
It's called "speculation".
May 28th 2013
15
Holy shit. Colm Feore to play the Vulture *swipe*
Jun 11th 2013
19
This will either be amazing or awful.
Jun 11th 2013
20
If they can pull off the S_______ S__, this will work... Uphill climb th...
Jun 12th 2013
21
A lot of this smells like bullshit
Jun 12th 2013
22
Bwahahah PTP is on LESSON status with the nonsense hate
Jun 12th 2013
24
Get ready for The Amazing Spider-Man 3 & 4 (swipe)
Jun 17th 2013
25
Jesus.
Jun 17th 2013
26
Spidey is really, really going to need some help.
Jun 18th 2013
27
lol
Dec 11th 2013
56
I haven't seen 1, I'm not gonna see 2 or 3. BUT.
Jun 18th 2013
28
Mary Jane Cut from THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 [Update: Role May Be Recast]...
Jun 19th 2013
29
Damn. Fanboys got that girl fired.
Jun 19th 2013
30
Collider fucked up. She's not fired just pushed back to 3.
Jun 19th 2013
31
I read the role will probably be recast by the time they make 3
Jun 20th 2013
35
      Rumor has it, the role has ALREADY been recast
Jun 21st 2013
36
           DDDDDAAAAAMMMMMNNNN
Jun 21st 2013
37
fanboys suck.
Jun 19th 2013
32
Jesus, what a clusterfuck this is becoming
Jun 19th 2013
33
WRONG!! She's just in it and GOOD.
Jun 19th 2013
34
Comic-Con EW Cover, Spider-Man vs. Electro
Jul 10th 2013
38
3 brief teasers for this joint
Dec 02nd 2013
39
From the poster above it looks like Rhino and Green Goblin are
Dec 02nd 2013
40
First official trailer
Dec 05th 2013
41
looks dope.
Dec 05th 2013
42
Shit, looks like it could go either way
Dec 05th 2013
43
Harry is hideous lol
Dec 05th 2013
44
      Man, Electro doesn't show up until the last 30 seconds...
Dec 05th 2013
45
      Guess that's why the "Rise of Electro" subtitle...
Dec 05th 2013
46
           That's a whole month between Cap 2 and Spidey 2
Dec 05th 2013
47
                Point is: "Summer" starts in April now
Dec 07th 2013
51
                     Na. Summer still starts in May.
Dec 07th 2013
52
      i hope not, I've had enough of the osborns/goblins
Dec 05th 2013
48
looks dope. the first one was pretty good.
Dec 06th 2013
49
that looks awful
Dec 09th 2013
53
They are setting up the Sinister Six
Dec 09th 2013
54
the scene with Electro and Spidey at the end was dope
Dec 10th 2013
55
we are never getting a carnage movie :(
Dec 06th 2013
50
nope but they are doing Venom--
Dec 13th 2013
57
I mean...that HAS to have Carnage in it right?
Dec 13th 2013
58
      I see no reason why Carnage HAS to be in it.
Dec 16th 2013
62
           Carnage really isn't a very interesting character
Dec 16th 2013
63
                the idea of the symbiote affecting ppl in different ways...
Dec 16th 2013
66
                i always thought Carnage was kinda wack
Feb 04th 2014
74
do you have any idea how big a clusterfuck a carnage movie would be?
Dec 16th 2013
65
      oh for sure. as a spidey fan tho,
Dec 16th 2013
67
International Trailer #2
Dec 13th 2013
59
Much better IMO.
Dec 13th 2013
60
Damn, that's a much better trailer
Dec 16th 2013
64
These niggas finally put out a decent trailer. Minus the corny music.
Feb 03rd 2014
68
Although I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this origin...
Feb 03rd 2014
69
      I agree on Foxx
Feb 03rd 2014
70
      Co-sign everything you said my nigga. nm
Feb 03rd 2014
71
      Damn, now that you mention it...
Feb 03rd 2014
72
B.J. Novak will play Alistair Smythe (link)
Feb 03rd 2014
73
Another new trailer
Feb 13th 2014
75
This soundtrack is gonna be flames *swipe*
Mar 13th 2014
76
YYYOOO!!!!! This last trailer is awesome!
Mar 19th 2014
77
the CGI
Mar 20th 2014
78
Garfield is a much better Spiderman than McGuire, to me
Mar 21st 2014
83
Your turnaround in this thread is fun to see lol
Mar 20th 2014
79
These last two trailers did it for me. nm
Mar 20th 2014
81
      This shit looks good.
Mar 21st 2014
85
*Sighs* Yeah, I'm in
Mar 20th 2014
80
Oh shit.
Mar 21st 2014
84
new trailer looks good
Mar 21st 2014
82
First reactions. Even the postive reviews don't seem that postive. *link...
Apr 08th 2014
86
Yeah, its good. Critics mad.
Apr 08th 2014
87
So far I'm here
Apr 08th 2014
89
Some more reactions. All still mixed on the film. *swipe*
Apr 10th 2014
90
Those reviews seem....nitpicky.
Apr 10th 2014
91
lmao. critiquing a review of a movie you haven't seen.
Apr 17th 2014
93
      Way to ignore the context of that critique.
Apr 17th 2014
94
See An X-Men: Days Of Future Past Sting On Amazing Spider-Man 2
Apr 17th 2014
92
Not terrible, not great
Apr 21st 2014
95
I agree with topaz. Not as bad as I thought it'd be, but still not good
Apr 22nd 2014
96
Also, I still don't see how you do a Sinster Six movie without Spidey
Apr 22nd 2014
97
I firmly believe that had Spiderman had organic webs from jump
Apr 23rd 2014
99
      You know which OKPs I'm talking about dude
Apr 24th 2014
101
      I'm right there w/you.
May 02nd 2014
108
fell asleep on this
Apr 23rd 2014
98
terrible, terrible, terrible
Apr 23rd 2014
100
Worse than terrible, terrible, terrible
Apr 24th 2014
102
After seeing this again tonight, it definitely has tonal problems and
Apr 24th 2014
103
saw it as part of a double-feature with Cap America 2...
Apr 26th 2014
104
Better than the last one
May 01st 2014
105
Spider-Man Producers Shoot Down Idea of Miles Morales on the Big Screen ...
May 01st 2014
106
Jamie and Paul are straight outta Joel Schumacher Batman.
May 02nd 2014
107
God, I wish Sony would just let Spidey go.
May 02nd 2014
109
Save your $ - don't see this
May 02nd 2014
110
The next day: I could really fucking rant about how bad this is.
May 02nd 2014
111
Can't disagree more. Electro is the only "Schumacher" element in there.
May 02nd 2014
113
      Electro and Rhino are an hour of screen time wasted.
May 02nd 2014
114
           I agree with you on all of this.
May 02nd 2014
115
                These two reviews sum it up perfectly: Review 1 *swipe*
May 02nd 2014
116
                     Review 2 *swipe*
May 02nd 2014
117
Much, much better than everyone is saying. I don't get it.
May 02nd 2014
112
Ehh, I liked it better than the first one, which wasn't terrible. Geez.
May 02nd 2014
118
agreed
May 02nd 2014
119
The mid-credits scene had nothing to do with aping The Avengers
May 02nd 2014
120
      I can't speak for the business reasons
May 03rd 2014
121
           Uh... business reasons are exactly why this isn't an example of them
May 04th 2014
125
                this is not even worth debating
May 04th 2014
128
I did too
May 24th 2014
136
It's amazing to me how well these guys nail Peter Parker/Spiderman....
May 03rd 2014
122
i'm prettymuch with 112 and 122...
May 03rd 2014
123
RE: i'm prettymuch with MOST of 112, 118 and 122...
May 04th 2014
124
      Electro was obviously a byproduct of the script.
May 04th 2014
126
      oh, and execution-wise, this film prob has the BEST 'spidey-swangin'
May 04th 2014
127
Maybe it's just me or I'm probably reaching but...
May 05th 2014
129
you're reaching
May 05th 2014
130
RE: Maybe it's just me or I'm probably reaching but...
May 11th 2014
134
I dug it. Not the best movie, but it's decent.
May 07th 2014
131
RE: The Not So Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Webb, 2014)
May 07th 2014
132
i enjoyed the hell out of this.
May 11th 2014
133
Does lack of a post-credits sequence mean anything?
May 15th 2014
135
Finally seen this. Works better as a romance than an action movie.
May 26th 2014
137
I can't believe this shit is coming out on DVD on August 19th
Jun 17th 2014
138
gotdamn lessons learned
Jun 17th 2014
139
i liked most of it...
Jul 08th 2014
140
This piece of shit movie summed up in two videos
Sep 03rd 2014
141
LOL yo I literally said Bye Felicia in the fucking theatre
Sep 03rd 2014
142
this shit was trash, the end
Sep 14th 2014
143
Finally watched this... It's better than I thought it would be... That s...
Apr 22nd 2015
144

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1. "this is heading the way of fantastic 4"
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2. "I think Giamatti is an amazing choice."
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Mon May-27-13 10:26 AM by Frank Longo

  

          

He looks awesome in that picture. I think DeHaan is a great choice as Harry too.

Foxx as Electro with that weird blue makeup seems like the only super-huge warning sign. That and, yknow, the last film not being great.

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3. "Giamatti is far too hammy for this. He's going to be awful."
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The last thing I liked that guy in was Shoot 'Em Up, because while he was the exact same guy he is in everything he's ever done, it was the perfect vehicle for that schtick.

He should never, ever, ever, ever, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER be in anywhere near a superhero movie that isn't a parody of some kind.

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4. "^^^^Exactly."
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When it was announced I was like SMH nigga.

After seeing those pictures from the set I'm like NNNNIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGAAAA!!!

This shit seems like a comedy B.

Like yo Dane DeHann is a good look and shit and yo I don't like metal music like that, but I'm gonna check out that Metallica movie in IMAX 3D cause of him. But yo this movie is gonna be a giant L yo.

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5. "He's playing The Rhino. I don't want him to be a master of subtlety."
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Mon May-27-13 07:03 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

I want him to chew that scenery, beat the shit out of fools, and rant.

All the best villain portrayals in comic films, save MAYBE one (Molina as Doc Ock in a Spidey sequel, oddly enough), are incredibly hammy. Both Jokers. McKellen's Magneto. Hiddleston's Loki. It's part of what makes comic book films so fun, IMO. Ham served in healthy portions, with the right dialogue and plot, can really be a wonderful thing.

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6. "I don't want him to be a master of subtlety. Paul is more spam than ham."
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>I want him to chew that scenery, beat the shit out of fools,
>and rant.
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>All the best villain portrayals in comic films, save MAYBE one
>(Molina as Doc Ock in a Spidey sequel, oddly enough), are
>incredibly hammy. Both Jokers. McKellen's Magneto.
>Hiddleston's Loki. It's part of what makes comic book films so
>fun, IMO. Ham served in healthy portions, with the right
>dialogue and plot, can really be a wonderful thing.

paul is a completely different brand. He's on that Batman Forever era Jim Carrey shit. He's on that Robin Williams tip. Ledger delivered an amazing performance. there's ham and then there's Giamatti. I agree With every you said about ham... but I said "too" hammy, which is the crux of my beef (ha!). He's just way over the top in a bad way to me. He's awful but I'LL gladly eat my words if he turns in a quality performance.

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7. "shit i'm still afraid to watch the first one."
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8. "You're nuts. It blew the other 3 before it out the water."
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It was the shit! It's sad it got so outshadowed by Avengers and ehk... Dark Knight Rises.

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10. "First one was good. "
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People were just presdisposed to shitting on it. Because
A: it was 'too soon' to tell the origin again
B: we're now tryna pretend like every Marvel movie not made by Marvel is bad.

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11. "^^^Yup. Agreed on all points."
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12. "I agree with both of y'all niggas."
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This one just seems like they throwing everything in it.

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16. "I hate the casting choice for Rhino, but I loved the first"
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So I'm still excited for this one. I don't get the hate for the first one. If anything, that was a more accurate portrayal of Spiderman and Parker than the original trilogy.

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17. "First one was good... with a shitty villain."
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18. "Shitty is overstating IMO. I'd just call him lacking."
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23. "The people above are horrible and wrong"
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The Amazing Spider Man is a terrible movie and has a douchebag Spidey in it. Spidey kills a little girl in the movie.

  

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61. "exactly! the first one was so bad!"
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i'm sure this one will be no different. not interested in the least to see it. just an awful franchise

  

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It was aiight

It really is too soon of a reboot
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9. "Its going to be good. "
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13. "So now we're not even waiting for the movie to drop before bitching"
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14. "When has waiting for the film ever been the case?"
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Casting, screenwriter, directorial choices have always ignited complaints. I also agree that Less is More and get nervous when I see too many characters added to films.

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15. "It's called "speculation". "
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I fail to see why people can't have a negative view of the information at hand. Casting choices, costume choices, etc are valid points of discussion even if people are "bitching" about them. One doesn't have to have a finished product to feel one way or another about the progress they've seen.

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19. "Holy shit. Colm Feore to play the Vulture *swipe*"
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Tue Jun-11-13 04:54 PM by bwood

          

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=81197

We've got a couple of very interesting bits of Spidey related loveliness for you today. First off -- as I'm sure you've gathered from the image above -- we can 100% confirm that Colm Feore is actually playing Adrian Toomes aka The Vulture in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. And that's not all -- apparently he will join forces with Rhino, Electro and Green Goblin to form the first four members of The Sinister Six, setting them up for the threequel. Who the other two will be is unknown, but it's always possible The Lizard could return as one of them. It also seems that we can forget all that stuff about Norman Osborn not taking up the Green Goblin mantel in the movie! Chris Cooper was spotted on set as Goblin battling Spider-Man, and we're told they'll likely be duking it out in the movie's climax, no doubt leading to the death of Miss Gwen Stacy (Emma Stone). What do you guys make of this huge news? Sound off below.

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20. "This will either be amazing or awful. "
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I like the high stakes, but that's an awful lot for Spidey to take on without help. Even as a guy who can suspend disbelief at will, I'll have a hard time buying him winning out against those four in a movie, and Black Cat really won't be enough if that's the plan unless they write her tech in right. I'd love to see Daredevil or Scarlet Spider or, well, Venom in the mix on Spidey's side. Someone.

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Too many villains hurt Spider-Man 3, and there were only 3 of them.

Too many character hurt X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

The Avengers worked really well, but even a couple of those guys had to take a backseat to some extent.

That said, the cast looks really nice, and the idea of a supervillain team of a collection of people over multiple movies is like the Anti-Avengers. It would be pretty sick it it works.

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22. "A lot of this smells like bullshit"
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24. "Bwahahah PTP is on LESSON status with the nonsense hate"
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Y'all LITERALLY MAKING UP REASONS to hate this out of
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25. "Get ready for The Amazing Spider-Man 3 & 4 (swipe)"
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http://www.slashfilm.com/the-amazing-spider-man-3-and-4-announced/

Sony Pictures is currently in production on The Amazing Spider-Man 2, but theyve today announced release dates for two more Spider-Man films.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 will hit theaters on May 2, 2014 (as weve known)
The Amazing Spider-Man 3 will hit theaters on June 10, 2016
The Amazing Spider-Man 4 will hit theaters on May 4, 2018
The fact that Sony is announcing these dates shows an insane confidence in the future of this comic book franchise, and have very likely already mapped out a story roadmap for the series at least through the third film. There have been rumors about an appearance of The Sinister Six in the third movie a villainous super-group featuring the Lizard, Vulture, Electro, Rhino, and possibly the Green Goblin. That seemed like a lot to set up in time for the third film, but spreading out the story to four films gives Webb much more room to work.

Read the full press release after the jump.

CULVER CITY, Calif., June 17, 2013 With Sony Pictures Entertainment now in production in New York on The Amazing Spider-Man 2, slated for release on May 2, 2014, the studio is planting its flag on two future release dates for one of the most successful franchises in studio history, it was announced today by Jeff Blake, Chairman, Worldwide Marketing and Distribution for Sony Pictures. The next two films in the story of Peter Parker will be released on June 10, 2016, and on May 4, 2018, respectively.

Commenting on the announcement, Blake said, Spider-Man is our most important, most successful, and most beloved franchise, so were thrilled that we are in a position to lock in these prime release dates over the next five years.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is directed by Marc Webb from a screenplay by Alex Kurtzman & Roberto Orci & Jeff Pinkner, with a previous draft by James Vanderbilt, and based on the Marvel Comic Book by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach are the producers. The executive producers are E. Bennett Walsh, Stan Lee, Alex Kurtzman, and Roberto Orci.

The Amazing Spider-Man took in over $750 million at the worldwide box office last year.

  

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26. "Jesus."
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Do we really need four of these? Just finish this current trilogy and negotiate with Marvel on making a grip with them rights.

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27. "Spidey is really, really going to need some help. "
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Gwen better have Stark tech or something.

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56. "lol"
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28. "I haven't seen 1, I'm not gonna see 2 or 3. BUT."
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If they do Sinister Six for 4 knicker, I'm there!

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29. "Mary Jane Cut from THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 [Update: Role May Be Recast]..."
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http://collider.com/amazing-spider-man-2-cuts-mary-jane/

We previously reported that Shailene Woodley (The Descendants) would be playing Mary Jane in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, and we had seen some set photos of the talented young actress as the iconic character. However, director Marc Webb later said that this would be a brief appearance to set up the third installment, and now it looks like the character has been nixed from part 2 altogether. In the latest issue of EW , which focuses on Woodley and her lead role in the upcoming film Divergent, she told the publication, Of course Im bummed. But I am a firm believer in everything happening for a specific reasonBased on the proposed plot, I completely understand the need for holding off on introducing until the next film. Theres no word if Woodleys scenes will be held until the next movie, or if these scenes will stay on the cutting room floor. Webb said in a statement that he decided to streamline the story and focus on the Peter/Gwen relationship instead.

Woodley will next be seen in The Spectacular Now, and this August shes set to start filming on the adaptation of The Fault in Our Stars. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opens in 3D on May 2, 2014. As we reported a couple days ago, The Amazing Spider-Man 3 is set for June 10, 2016, and The Amazing Spider-Man 4 is due out on May 4, 2018.

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30. "Damn. Fanboys got that girl fired."
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Gotta be a fucked up feeling.

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31. "Collider fucked up. She's not fired just pushed back to 3."
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They said she was only in 3 scenes anyways, so it's not that big of a deal.

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35. "I read the role will probably be recast by the time they make 3"
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I thought she was great in The Descendants but I'm not sure her presence (or lack thereof now) would convince me to see this regardless.

  

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36. "Rumor has it, the role has ALREADY been recast"
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/sarah-gadon-joins-the-amazing-spider-man-series-in-role-everyone-thinks-is-mary-jane-watson-20130621


real-talk, all anyone cares about MJ is: redhead, HOT and "face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot". Her central character trait is fuckability.

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37. "DDDDDAAAAAMMMMMNNNN"
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No offense to Woodley, but that chick is bad.

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32. "fanboys suck."
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they were awful to that girl.

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33. "Jesus, what a clusterfuck this is becoming"
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34. "WRONG!! She's just in it and GOOD. "
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Damn this about to make y'all MAD AS SHIT

It gon be GOOD

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38. "Comic-Con EW Cover, Spider-Man vs. Electro"
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http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18tgflz9m8w2ijpg/ku-medium.jpg

  

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39. "3 brief teasers for this joint"
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=111938

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40. "From the poster above it looks like Rhino and Green Goblin are"
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gonna be secondary villains to an already packed movie. I hope they can pull this off...

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41. "First official trailer"
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http://youtu.be/nbp3Ra3Yp74

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42. "looks dope."
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43. "Shit, looks like it could go either way"
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The trailer makes it look like Harry is gonna be the main villain not Electro.

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44. "Harry is hideous lol"
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and I agree it makes him look more like the main villain....Electro doesn't even appear until like the 2nd half of the trailer

  

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45. "Man, Electro doesn't show up until the last 30 seconds..."
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We saw Rhino more than we did of Electro.

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46. "Guess that's why the "Rise of Electro" subtitle..."
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Didn't appear on this trailer. Maybe they shelved that idea.

But I think it's also odd that with all of the shit going on in that story, the focused on the one storyline that we've already seen told.

I wasn't a fan of the first one (and didn't see it until it hit VOD) so I'll probably be waiting on this one as well. But it's got the May 2nd slot, typically the first blockbuster of the summer, so it should make huge money although Captain America 2 is opening the first week of April so that might steal some of its thunder.

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47. "That's a whole month between Cap 2 and Spidey 2"
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So no thunder will be stolen by the time Spidey drops.

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51. "Point is: "Summer" starts in April now"
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You have Captain America, followed by Rio 2, followed by Johnny Depp/Wally Pfister's Transcendence. We started to see this shift last year with Oblivion but with summer's getting so packed, I think we'll see more and more films getting a jump and opening in April and weakening the impact of having the first weekend of May.

I expect this flick to do well but I have a feeling it could be like Star Trek: Into Darkness and struggle to match the first films gross.

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52. "Na. Summer still starts in May."
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I mean if we're gonna start making that point then Summer started in March last year and this year with The Hunger Games and Oz the Great & Powerful.

I think what you're trying to say is that tentpoles are gonna be released at different times throughout the year now because Summer is too packed. I mean look at Christmas. Every year we have more and more tentpoles dropping on or before Christmas Day, making the Holiday season a mini-Summer movie season.

Plus, the first Cap came out during the summer and did okay. So it was their best move to put it out in April. I mean look at the release schedule for other Marvel films. If you're not Iron Man or The Avengers, you're not dropping during the summer. The first Thor dropped during the Summer and now that Thor 2 dropped outside of Summer, it's outgrossing the first by a good amount.

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48. "i hope not, I've had enough of the osborns/goblins"
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>and I agree it makes him look more like the main
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49. "looks dope. the first one was pretty good."
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finally got around to watching that tonight after seeing this trailer.

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53. "that looks awful"
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It's like they didn't learn from basically every superhero franchise gone bad...

So it's Rhino AND Electro AND Green Goblin...? Are they just trying to go through most of the throwaway Spiderman villains?

Meh. Ah, who am I kidding, I'm still going to watch it.



  

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54. "They are setting up the Sinister Six"
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>It's like they didn't learn from basically every superhero
>franchise gone bad...
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>So it's Rhino AND Electro AND Green Goblin...? Are they just
>trying to go through most of the throwaway Spiderman
>villains?
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>Meh. Ah, who am I kidding, I'm still going to watch it.
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55. "the scene with Electro and Spidey at the end was dope"
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50. "we are never getting a carnage movie :("
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that being said, its spidey, so i'll go

  

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57. "nope but they are doing Venom--"
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http://collider.com/venom-movie-alex-kurtzman-drew-goddard-the-sinister-six/

  

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58. "I mean...that HAS to have Carnage in it right?"
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Could be a great lead-in to Maximum Carnage, which is all ive ever wanted in a spidey movie

Could even be its own trilogy but there are a lot of characters in that story that Sony doesnt have license for

Even the Venom movie would kinda need Reed Richards, but Fox owns that.

  

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62. "I see no reason why Carnage HAS to be in it."
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Frankly, I've never really liked that character so much. It's kinda limited...

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63. "Carnage really isn't a very interesting character"
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And Maximum Carnage as a story hasn't aged well.

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66. "the idea of the symbiote affecting ppl in different ways..."
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Should be the focus of the Venom movie

The best example of that is its relationship with Kasady

  

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74. "i always thought Carnage was kinda wack"
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....i liked the IDEA of him, but after Maximum Carnage i just wanted the character to go away and STAY away

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65. "do you have any idea how big a clusterfuck a carnage movie would be?"
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67. "oh for sure. as a spidey fan tho,"
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The symbiote story, to me, is one of the two best storylines in Spiderman in like 30-40 years (the other being the voluntary unmasking as part of the CW)

  

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59. "International Trailer #2"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z61rmiN35E

  

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60. "Much better IMO."
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Not sure why they went with the other one for the US release.

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64. "Damn, that's a much better trailer"
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one that would actually make me want to come and see this movie.

I have a small place in my heart for that tiny big mouthed chick Emma Stone.

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68. "These niggas finally put out a decent trailer. Minus the corny music."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW5u_y27LmQ#t=217

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69. "Although I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this origin..."
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... they are at least showing an emotional arc to the film, which is nice, and the attempts at humor in the trailer already work better than any of the humor in the first film. Even if the "you will notice me" vibe is very Edward Nygma in Batman Forever, it's a nearly instantly relatable and sympathetic personality trait.

Still feels mighty cluttered once they start introducing the OsCorp stuff and the Transformer Rhino still feels like an afterthought... but Foxx as Electro seems like a good fit, which gives me hope.

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70. "I agree on Foxx"
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I'm feeling better about him now in the role. I actually liked the first one (saw it on a flight) so I'll check this one out.

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71. "Co-sign everything you said my nigga. nm"
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72. "Damn, now that you mention it..."
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> the "you will notice me" vibe is very Edward Nygma in
>Batman Forever

Even down to the crazy shrine-like apartment.

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73. "B.J. Novak will play Alistair Smythe (link)"
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http://screenrant.com/amazing-spider-man-2-bj-novak-alistair-smythe-spider-slayers/

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75. "Another new trailer"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JitBe3Y5LC8

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76. "This soundtrack is gonna be flames *swipe*"
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http://pitchfork.com/news/54327-kendrick-lamar-pharrell-alicia-keys-team-for-amazing-spider-man-2-soundtrack/

Kendrick Lamar, Alicia Keys, Pharrell, Johnny Marr, and Phosphorescent will all make appearances on The Amazing Spider-Man 2 soundtrack, out April 22 via Columbia/Madison Gate. The musical companion to Spidey's latest film which arrives internationally April 16 and Stateside May 2includes "It's on Again," a collaboration between Lamar and Keys created specifically for the film, produced by Pharrell and co-written by Lamar, Keys, Pharrell, and veteran film composer Hans Zimmer.

As previously reported, Zimmer tapped a team of all-stars, known as the Magnificent Six, to score The Amazing Spider-Man 2: Pharrell, Marr, Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics, Mike Einziger of Incubus, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, and Steve Mazzaro. The soundtrack will feature new Pharrell songs, as well as music by the Neighbourhood, LIZ, and others. Phosphorescent's Muchacho standout "Song for Zula" has made the tracklisting as well.

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77. "YYYOOO!!!!! This last trailer is awesome!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlM2CWNTQ84#t=155

They even manage to make get me excited for Transformer Rhino.

Watch what this nigga Spidey does with the web shooters.

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78. "the CGI"
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especially the camera work in those shots of Spiderman floating thu the city looks great. Kinda on the fence regarding this one. I never really got into the rebooted Spiderman since McGuire from the first one seemed really good in the role. The casting in these new ones is better tho.

If I were 18 again, I would never stop talking about this movie, tho.

As Longo might say, "It'll do numbers."

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83. "Garfield is a much better Spiderman than McGuire, to me"
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He's excellent in this role.

  

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79. "Your turnaround in this thread is fun to see lol"
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81. "These last two trailers did it for me. nm"
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85. "This shit looks good."
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I'm sort of excited about it.

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80. "*Sighs* Yeah, I'm in"
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84. "Oh shit."
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82. "new trailer looks good"
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86. "First reactions. Even the postive reviews don't seem that postive. *link..."
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87. "Yeah, its good. Critics mad. "
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89. "So far I'm here"
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For the by play btwn Sally and Garfield

That chemistry they got right
The rest


I'm just not feeling this reboot of the series that tight
Not looking forward to Jamie
Nor the new green goblin
Nor the love interest

Just eh meh bleh hall over
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90. "Some more reactions. All still mixed on the film. *swipe*"
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Not looking good niggas

https://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-news/early-reviews--critics-tangled-over--the-amazing-spider-man-2--villains-213227297.html

Critics are already weighing in on "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" and its mob of villains more than three weeks from its U.S. release.

The Story
"The plot gets itself tangled up in multiple villain strands," notes Leslie Felperin at The Hollywood Reporter," sharing a common gripe among early reviewers. Mark Adams at ScreenDaily agrees, saying the film "comes close to losing its way due to its overly-plotted baddies," resulting in "a rather unwieldy sense to its structure as characters slug it out for screen time."

As far as the villains themselves, Jamie Foxx is receiving mixed reactions for his portrayal of Max Dillon/Electro, while Dane DeHaan is getting almost unanimous praise for his sly turn as Harry Osborn/The Green Goblin. And Paul Giamatti's Aleksei Sytsevich/The Rhino? Well, there's just not a whole lot to say on his role because it's pretty small.

Jaime Foxx
THR's Felperin is one of Foxx's defenders, saying the Oscar-winning actor, "even under all the prosthetic make-up and visual effects ... manages to project a literally white-hot rage and damaged psyche."
Stefan Page at HeyUGuys is a fan, too, comparing the "initially endearing" character to Elsa in "Frozen" and writing that Electro is a "wonderfully constructed antagonist" who "earns our sympathy and becomes more relatable and real," though regretting that ultimately "the character is underused and his potential is not fulfilled." And Dibdin at Total Film says there's "a real poignancy" to the unfortunate antagonist.

Others aren't feeling the electricity:

"The naturally dynamic Foxx never seems comfortable with the workplace-wallflower characterization. ... little more than a warm-up act for the more serpentine villainy of Dane DeHaan." Guy Lodge, Variety
"Jamie Foxx's Max Dillon is a particular problem. ... The shortcuts to pathos in his character feel milked and blatant." Tim Robey, The Telegraph
"Foxx is an overly-mannered nightmare." Oliver Lyttelton, The Playlist

Dane DeHaan
Foxx's partner in crime is getting much better marks, with Lodge at Variety praising DeHaan's "louche, faintly lascivious performance" as Harry Osborn, and that "the promise of his continued presence is the chief reason to anticipate the already-scheduled 'Amazing Spider-Man 3.'"


Dane DeHaan in 'The Amazing Spider-Man 2' (Columbia Pictures)
Dibdin at Total Film echos the thought, claiming that "when DeHaan is on screen it's impossible to look anywhere else."

"DeHaan fares much better , playing a Harry Osborn who's more jittery and complex than playboy smarmy like his predecessor James Franco." Simon Reynolds, Digital Spy
"DeHaan remains a hugely charismatic presence. ...is basically a replication of DeHaan's performance in the far superior Chronicle." Lyttelton, The Playlist
"The character echoes the one he played in 'Chronicle.' ...With his angular, androgynous beauty and piercing eyes, DeHaan is well cast." Felperin, THR


Paul Giamatti
Lyttelton also says the film is "wildly overstuffed." So stuffed, apparently, that little room was left for Paul Giamatti's Rhino, observes Daniel Krupa at IGN who says the actor "is limited to cameos, providing short action sequences." Still, says, Felperin, " maniacally gleeful, especially when he comes back in the last scene as the Rhino, evoking memories of Mole Man in 'The Incredibles.'"

"The Amazing Spider-Man 2" opens in the U.S. on May 2.

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91. "Those reviews seem....nitpicky."
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The stuff about Rhino (SPOILER) confirmed my suspicion that he wouldn't get much time in the movie, instead showcasing the fact that, hey, there might be one or two big bads that were focusing on in *this* movie, but Spidey always has his hands full with someone. Having one villain always seemed off to me. So if the complaint here is that there are too many villain strands or whatever, if Rhino doesnt get much screen time. Then were really only looking at two strands, which is hardly too many.

A minor villain who exists to illustrate the fact that there are many threats to be dealt with just makes sense to me. Thats exactly how I expected this movie to handle Rhino, and those statements kind of confirm that to me. I see that as a positive, personally.

I will say I'm not a fan of Paul for this. I love Giamati in, say, Shoot Em Up, because his particular brand of ham is perfect for that sort of thing. As it stands, I dont see him doing any quality villain work in a comic book movie outside of playing the Penguin in a third Schumacher iteration of Batman.

To me its just weird that wed see complaints of a movie thats overstuffed while noting that Rhino gets limited to short action sequences.

The Foxx critiques seem particularly nitpicky. The one critique that intrigues me is that his potential is unfulfilled, which could go a few ways. The impression I get from that statement is that they somehow dont go all the way with him. Then again, hes supposed to be in more movies so Im guessing theyll need to save something for later.

Granted, I havent seen the movie so what do I know. It just appears that those are incredibly vague and overly meticulous reviews. Those are the sort of reviews that come across as the reviewer walking in with low expectations and not wanting to enjoy it.

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93. "lmao. critiquing a review of a movie you haven't seen."
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94. "Way to ignore the context of that critique. "
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THAT's always classic.

I spoke of the impression those reviews gave based on the information they gave while acknowledging I haven't seen the movie.

You say that as though I've never read movie reviews before. I've read reviews of movies I've seen and there are particular things that stand out in a review before or after I've seen it.

It's not as though I said ARRRGH, THEY'RE SO WRONG.

I said the reviews came across as nitpicky.

There's a marked difference in how something comes across as opposed to how it's intended, and I'll have a better idea of what was intended after I've seen the movie, but I don't need to see the movie to know how their review comes across.

Sue me for having a nuanced perspective.

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92. "See An X-Men: Days Of Future Past Sting On Amazing Spider-Man 2"
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http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=40776

See An X-Men: Days Of Future Past Sting On Amazing Spider-Man 2
Wait, what?

16 April 2014 | Written by Helen O'Hara

It's not exactly unusual for superheroes to team up. Spider-Man and the X-Men have done so on numerous occasions in the comics, so it should come as no surprise that they are doing so again - sort of - on the big screen. But surprise! There is an X-Men: Days Of Future Past clip in the credits of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, which marks a possible new era of collaboration between competing studios with Fox and Sony working together.

Now this isn't a post-credits sting as we've seen before in the Marvel universe, setting up some sort of crossover between the two worlds. Rather, it's a clip from the X-film that gives us a taste of the action we're in for. We've been told by Sony that the clip will be attached to the film in the UK.

The scene featured sees Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique, Lucas Till's Havok and Evan Jonigkeit's Toad taking on William Stryker (Josh Helman) and his military men. Without wishing to spoil anything, let's just say that Mystique once again demonstrates her formidable fighting skills in the brief segment.

Presumably there have been significant negotiations leading to this point, and the comic nerd in all of us hopes that someone said, over coffee during a break in the meeting, "Hey, how about we get these crazy kids together properly?" At the very least, this could lead to, next time, content being filmed expressly for this sort of crossover activity.

Neither is this the first attempt at co-operation between studios sharing the Marvel universe: there were early talks to have the Oscorp building appear in the New York skyline of Avengers, perhaps envisioning an exchange where Stark Tower would show up behind Spidey. However, this clip is still a step towards a unified Marvel theory universe, which would be unspeakably cool - even if it is unlikely to happen anytime soon.

Variety managed to ferret out the real reason for the stings presence a deal between Fox and Sony over Marc Webbs services. Turns out that Webb still owes Fox Searchlight a film in his contract after (500) Days Of Summer and in order for him to sign on to make the second (and third) Spidey movies, Sony agreed to the free plug for Days Of Future Past.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is out in the UK today. It hits US cinemas on May 2. X-Men: Days Of Future Past arrives on May 22 here and May 23 across the Pond.

  

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95. "Not terrible, not great"
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My wife loved it but she has a thing for Andrew Garfield. I found the romance portions of the film to be quite cringeworthy, it felt like a bad rom-com with scenes cut up then integrated into a superhero movie. Didn't find the humour to be that funny. The two main villains both had terrible reasons for hating Spiderman. Action scenes were cool.

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96. "I agree with topaz. Not as bad as I thought it'd be, but still not good"
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This shit is a better version of Spider-Man 3. I get why Max became a villain. When you're constantly looked over and then one of the biggest people in the world tell you you're not a bad guy, only to run into them again and you're forgotten about makes sense and I empathize with that. However, as topaz said, I don't really buy Harry's reasons for coming after Spider-Man. I get that Harry's supposed to be corrupt and all that but no.

This film also wasted a great storyline from the comics, that could've been a movie by itself.

I saw in the post of the previous movie a few OKPs complaining about the web shooters which tells me that y'all obviously know nothing of Spider-Man in the first place. I never liked the organic webbing, and I think he web shooters are really the only thing I love about the new series.

The score is fucking fantastic for this film. It's too bad it's wasted here. I really wish the film was better for the score's sake at least.

I think we will never have a better Spider-Man movie than Spider-Man 2. So far with this character we have, one of the best comic book films of all time, an enjoyable comic book movie, 2 half way decent movies, and of course a just flat out bad movie.

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97. "Also, I still don't see how you do a Sinster Six movie without Spidey"
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Who in the fuck wants to see that shit?

This movie combined with all the announcements made so far really makes me wish Sony would give the rights back to Marvel.

I also, find it funny that these new Spider-Man movies come out in the shadow of better films (Avengers, Cap 2) and are overshadowed by comic films people are more excited for that drops 2 weeks after (Dark Knight Rises, Days of Future Past).

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99. "I firmly believe that had Spiderman had organic webs from jump"
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People would think that web shooters are a stupid idea.

I know a lot about Spiderman, and I hate web shooters. I always have. I don't see how disliking that idea somehow means you don't know anything about Spiderman.

Organic webbing just makes more sense. The only real argument for mechanical shooters is to display the often understated genius of Peter Parker, but to me it seems that there are better ways to do that.

That's just me though.

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101. "You know which OKPs I'm talking about dude"
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I'm talking about the causal movie watcher.

Plus all the reasons you've stated is why I think web shooters are better.

One of the things I've heard/talked to other people about is the fact that the one thing the previous film as well as this film did correctly was web shooters. I get all the complaints people had about the previous one, but from what I gathered talking to fanboys, casual moviegoers, and cats off the street is that they loved the shooters. Which they utilized to awesome effect again in this one, despite the movie's overall lacking.

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108. "I'm right there w/you."
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I've been reading spidey since I was like 13 - and I LOVE the idea of Organic Webbing - I too feel like it makes the most sense. I get how webshooters can be used for dramatic effect, I just don't care all that can be done differently.

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98. "fell asleep on this"
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just like when i first tried to watch the first one

reminds me of the original superman with the lame jokes and the love story

  

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100. "terrible, terrible, terrible"
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terrible performances from everybody
they couldn't figure out if it was gonna be a romantic comedy or sci-fi or a campy spiderman.

most of it made no sense

  

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102. "Worse than terrible, terrible, terrible"
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Just watched in the UK and its one of the worst films I've ever sat through. And I like superhero movies.

The movie starts off with Andrew Garfield doing his cocky schtick from the first movie - but a quarter of the way through the movie this attitude is forgotten completely (for no reason).

The romance scenes between Garfield and Emma Stone are terrible. I really feel like they were freelancing and not working off any script for these scenes, its painful to watch.

The screenplay is awful. Really, really bad, poorly structured and the romance scenes slow the pace of the movie down to a crawl. No laughs whatever throughout the duration of the movie for me.

The worst part of the film: Jamie Foxx, no 'cism just flat out awful character by the writers/directors/studio bosses. Not Jamie's fault because I like him in other stuff but the early scenes are like his character from the Soloist and then he becomes this Electro-demi god which is one of the lamest things of any superhero universe.

Dane Dehaan is just about the best thing in the movie and his normal appearance freaks me out. They should have basically cut Electro from the entire story and made it like the earlier Spiderman moves of Spidey going against Oscorp. Dehaan is going to get a major career boost from this movie.

Paul Giamatti cashing cheques with his Rhino screen time. Beyond awful and no storyline impact.

  

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103. "After seeing this again tonight, it definitely has tonal problems and"
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an overall lack of focus. And too overstuffed and scatter shot.

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104. "saw it as part of a double-feature with Cap America 2..."
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...Cap was a solid A.
this however was a solid...something.
i dont even know, i was pretty ambivalent throughout the whole thing like i was with the first flick. the acting all-round seemed...aloof? ye, thats a good word. or they tried to play it too casual with Peter and Gwen's cutesy banter which resulted in too much adlibbing making it to the screen.

i did chuckle at a few of the gags cos they were pretty funny, but i thought they woulda learned from the prev Spidey flicks to not bloat the damn movie? make it about Harry only and u get a nice tight storyline. Jamie was nothing spesh as Electro (n he seemed to be channeling Max from "Collateral", also wore glasses and was nervous/anxious).

i think in the end i'm just guna be one of many joining the chorus of wanting to get ALL Marvel properties into the hands of the MCU, and not have it be so splintered. a unified vision for all these characters is infinitely better than the way it is now, and Marvel studios are pumpin out way more interesting superhero flicks than anyone else in the biz right now too. would make more sense in a fan service way AND in a quality control way.

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105. "Better than the last one"
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106. "Spider-Man Producers Shoot Down Idea of Miles Morales on the Big Screen ..."
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=117774

Peter Parker isn't the only Spider-Man, in fact there are a number of them. From the clone Ben Reilly to the new "Ultimate" Spider-Man Miles Morales all the way to the Spider-Man of 2099, Miguel O'Hara, there's been a handful of people to put on the mask and save the day. But will we ever see them on the big screen?

Speaking with The Playlist (via /Film), producers Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach were asked about the possibility of a non-Peter Parker Spider-Man on the big screen, to which Tolmach simply replied: "No." Arad echoed that answer and elaborated on it, saying:

"The one thing you cannot do, when you have a phenomena that has stood the test of time, you have to be true to the real character inside who is Peter Parker? What are the biggest effects on his life? Then you can draw in time, and you can consider today's world in many ways. But to have multiple ones I don't know if you remember, but Marvel tried it. And it was almost the end of Spider-Man."

Star Andrew Garfield on the other hand thinks that Miles Morales should appear in the franchise.


"I think one of the amazing things about Spider-Man is that you don't see skin color when he's in the suit," he said in an interview with CBR. "You don't see any religious beliefs. You don't see any denominations. Everyone can project themselves into that suit. It's incredibly powerful in that way. So of course I think it's important that the openness, the casting, in terms of who could be Spider-Man, could be absolutely anyone. A hero is a hero, whether you're a man, woman, gay, lesbian, straight, black, white or red all over -- it doesn't matter.....Miles Morales was a huge moment in this character's comic book life. And I do believe that we can do that. It's something I'm really interested in figuring out; an eloquent way of coexisting, or passing on the torch. I don't have an answer, but I think it's actually a really important move. I think it's a really beautiful and important move."

With two more "Spider-Man" movies scheduled for release, and Garfield expressing doubt about a return for one of them, a replacement could be in order. Do you want to see one of the other Spider-Men show up on the big screen?

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107. "Jamie and Paul are straight outta Joel Schumacher Batman."
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Not to mention both could be COMPLETELY cut from the movie and still not change an ounce of the story. What a cluttered mess.

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109. "God, I wish Sony would just let Spidey go."
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OMG the nerdgasm that would occur when that's announced.

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110. "Save your $ - don't see this"
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It's a mess

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111. "The next day: I could really fucking rant about how bad this is."
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There's so much wrong.

I'd compare it to the Schumacher Batman films, but those have the decency of being tonally consistent. These want to be Schumacher-esque while also injecting tender teen romance. Those scenes work well on their own if taken out of context.

I can't emphasize enough how extraneous Electro is. And I can't emphasize enough how bad he is. Not Jamie's fault-- the script is what's awful. But I prefer Arnold's Mr. Freeze, honestly. No exaggeration. It's brutal.

There are a couple of moments they get really right too. Which makes the fact that so much of it is so wrong that much more anger-inducing.

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113. "Can't disagree more. Electro is the only "Schumacher" element in there. "
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The "tender teen romance" trope is no different from any of the love interest arcs in any of the superhero movies we've seen, and to me is just about the best handled of them all.

Further, it's not like they spent a ton of time on it. It was parceled very well throughout the movie. Gwen also contributed to the story and unlike the relationship in the previous trilogy wasn't just there for Peter to pine over and save, though he had to do that as well.

Further, we got a very real consequence out of that relationship.

I don't get the anger. Electro was wasted, but after him, they bat a very high percentage.

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114. "Electro and Rhino are an hour of screen time wasted."
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And they tonally clash so violently with the romance stuff (which, again, I thought was fine out of context) that I can't reconcile.

If you have a ninety-minute movie of Peter, Gwen, and Harry, the movie is significantly better. It has basically no action set pieces without Electro and Rhino, but at least it's tonally consistent and doesn't have oodles of extraneous villainy.

I have other complaints too (the majority of the action is not successful in my opinion, which also hurts), but the biggest turd in the punchbowl is the hour of wasted screen time with Electro and Rhino. Cramming them in solely so we can stuff the film with CGI-filled set pieces, none of which matter. It's the type of structure that critics always accuse superhero movies of having, only this time they're right.

But maybe the Peter/Gwen stuff works well enough for you that you can overlook the extraneous villains. And maybe the action did intrigue you. If both of those are the case, then I get why you liked it (the two people I saw it with thought it was good, not great, so I was alone in my group). But I think it's very very easy to understand why this movie will not work for a lot of people.

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115. "I agree with you on all of this."
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The Rhino is just bad, bad, bad. And what's worse is he's supposed to be a main villain in 3.

Electro could've worked if they developed his storyline a little more. Some said had they given maybe 5 to 10 minutes extra, then we could have believed his turn on SM, instead of it feeling rushed and sudden. I mean the dude IS the main villain of the movie.

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116. "These two reviews sum it up perfectly: Review 1 *swipe*"
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Agree with him on the first film, disagree on the score.

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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I haven't yet had a chance to read any other review of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, but having talked with a few of the editors we all seem to be on similar footing in our mixed feelings on the film. So, forgive me if I end up echoing stuff said by others because I'm coming to the party a bit late.

I think it's safe to say that I liked the first Amazing Spider-Man more than most of my peers. The villain story is a bit disjointed, but I can forgive a lot of that because Marc Webb actually put Spider-Man on screen for the first time. I don't mean the costume. I know Raimi beat him to it a decade ago and even he was beat by cheesy versions of the character in the '70s and '80s.

I'm talking about the actual character of Spider-Man. I adore many elements of Sam Raimi's series, but there are only glimpses of the Spider-Man I wanted to see since I was a kid. Spider-Man is what drew me to comics in the first place, so he holds a little special place in my heart.

Most of the time Raimi's Spider-Man was just low key Peter Parker in a mask, not the wise-cracking, having-a-ball webslinger I've loved since childhood. That's fine. It's a choice they made, but not my favorite take on the character.

Webb might have made his Spider-Man look like a special edition Nike, but goddamnit he felt like my Spider-Man. He was a joker. He was the unrestrained id of a pent up nerd given freedom by anonymity and some crazy powers. He cared for people, but he did his job while whistling and having a blast.

I'm a huge fan of Andrew Garfield in the role. As much as he's knocked for his portrayal of Peter Parker, I personally love how he's awkward yet wears his heart on his sleeve. Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker is sincere above all else. He's confused about life, love and the weight of responsibility put on his shoulders, but there's a purity to him that speaks to me more than the goofier yet somehow moodier Peter Parker that Toby Maguire brought to the screen.

In almost all areas I think Webb's casting was stronger than what had come before, especially with Emma Stone's Gwen Stacy. She looks like she stepped off the comic page and her chemistry with Garfield is real deal stuff.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is no different. I still love Garfield and Stone in their roles and relish the time they're together. Then the rest of the movie unfolds.

For all the faults of the first movie at least it was focused. Sure, there was the mystery of Peter's missing parents, but the main conflict made sense. The dots connected from A to B to C. Here there's an everything and the kitchen sink scattershot approach that plagued the worst Sam Raimi film (Spider-Man 3, of course). So many different threads and needless mudding of the narrative. By the time we get to the end everything feels both way too long and way too rushed at the same time.

How is that possible? Well, the Green Goblin's arc could have sustained its own movie. The Electro arc could have sustained its own movie. Both feel truncated and rushed while crammed into a film that is already dividing its focus between Peter's desperation to solve the mystery of his childhood abandonment and the guilt he's feeling for lying to the dying Dennis Leary by promising not to make out with his daughter anymore.

Both of those threads could have been addressed if they were more smart about it, but instead they just seem to bog down the first act with multiple scenes that are just repeating what came before. I love you Gwen, but I'm breaking up with you. Because I love you. I love you, Peter, but I'm breaking up with you because you're breaking up with me. Okay, I miss you. I miss you, too. Are we back together? No. Maybe. Okay. Well, I'm scared you're in danger. Great, here we go again. That happens a few times when I think it would have been more suited for the characters to stay in a relationship while wrestling with these issues and not just repeat the semi-courtship of the first movie.

Thinking back on it, I think it would have been fantastic if they had merged the two random storylines (Gwen and Peter breaking up, but not, and Peter searching for answers about his parents). That way you could have more time with Peter and Gwen being awesome and full of chemistry dealing with the dark cloud of danger looming over them while at the same time working together to solve the riddle of Ma and Pa Parker's death.

Right now neither subplot goes anywhere fulfilling and serves to take focus away from building a two dimensional villain.

There's a lot of interesting ideas surrounding Max Dillon. Jamie Foxx plays him as socially awkward to the point of comedy... that line is actually crossed a lot and he's not helped by his theme, but I'll get to the score in a minute.

I love the fact that Spider-Man saves Max Dillon and while cracking wise about Max being his eyes and ears on the streets he actually gives this poor man some recognition. Max Dillon is a dude who is ignored, who doesn't have the courage to stop people from walking all over him or the backbone to make sure he gets the credit for his work. For him, Spider-Man is all that is good and right. He's an idea to aspire to.

It's a fantastic starting point, but the turn from Spider-Man fanboy to I hate him forever! is so abrupt that it feels unearned. In a weird way it reminded of the horrible You're more famous then me, so I don't like you anymore Mary Jane storyline from the Raimi era.

I don't mind that the motivation for Electro's turn is petty, I just have a problem that it's so quick. I think they mishandled it and then afterwards they make the grave mistake of just putting the bad guy away for 30 minutes while they set up yet another bad guy.

Dane DeHaan is a great young actor and I worry that his Schumacherian portrayal of Harry Osborn is going to follow him around like toilet paper stuck to the bottom of a shoe. He goes so over the top so quickly I thought I missed something.

Harry Osborn is fumbled big time. He starts out as a dick, stays a dick and then just becomes a cackling dick on a glider. I like the concept of him inheriting a deadly genetic disease from his father and believing some of Spider-Man's blood could cure him. I don't like that Harry was shipped off to boarding school at the age of 11. When adult Peter Parker comes by to visit adult Harry Osborn and they start catching up the friendship feels stilted and unearned. There's an offhand mention of them seeing each other (or at least talking) once or twice in the intervening years, but they really haven't spoken much since they were kids, yet now they get a walk-and-talk scene about how great buds they are?

It's a classic case of being told something, not shown. Peter says Harry is his best bud, but there's no real feeling of that being true. The only time Harry is nice to Peter he wants something from him. So the tragedy of Harry transforming into the Goblin is hobbled right off the bat.

Add on to that DeHaan's decision to play Harry to the extreme from the beginning and there's no room for him to grow as he comes closer and closer to the glider.

Strangely enough, the villain done the most justice is Rhino. Paul Giamatti's crazy over the top performance fits that character and we only get him in small doses, which also helps. Plus all the Giamatti scenes also come with the best Spider-Man moments.

If you could take the obvious care Raimi has for his villains (specifically Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2) and merge it with the central performances in the Webb Spidey flicks you'd have the perfect Spider-Man movie. Webb's newest film is so focused on setting up spin-offs and sequels that it sacrifices the story it actually needed to tell.

The tone of the flick flips between goofy and fun a few times, but stays mostly in the goofy realm, sadly. Hans Zimmer, alongside Johnny Marr and Pharrell Williams, is a big part of that. I hate to knock Zimmer for going for a big score because I'm sick and tired of background music in movies, especially superhero movies. Gone are the glory days of the big, thematic score. Studios seem scared of them for some reason.

So, I hate to shit on Zimmer's tone-def bombastic score but it's a big reason why much of the movie doesn't work. Instead of accentuating the exciting parts of the movie and raising some of the goofy stuff above the Spanish Soap Opera melodrama it only highlights what doesn't work.

Max Dillon has a straight up Otis Theme. You know, from Superman. It's clown music. The fucked up part is that theme carries over to his early appearance as Electro, so when he should be sympathetic ala Frankenstein's monster, he is instead a sideshow attraction. It's a horrible miscalculation and a giant missed opportunity.

The flick isn't all a missed opportunity, but a great deal of it is, which makes me more sad than angry. They have so many good ingredients that they could have made a great film. Instead what we're left with a grab bag of ideas and decisions that feel selected by committee and not the singular vision of a creative mind. Story is sacrificed for franchise. The irony is that the best way to serve the franchise is to tell a great story, so they're only limiting themselves by rushing to all these spin-offs. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony burns out this new iteration of Spider-Man in its greed to chase the success of Marvel Films.

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117. "Review 2 *swipe*"
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I liked the mystery with Peter's parents. Problem is shit feels like filler in this movie, whereas in the first, it built into the overall mythology of Peter becoming Spider-Man.

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Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.

I don't care about Peter Parker's parents. I don't care if they're alive or dead; if they're traitors or patriots; if they're spies or scientists; if they work for Oscorp or Donald Trump; if they're human or alien. I didn't care about them in the comic books, and nothing that's been presented about them in two AMAZING SPIDER-MAN movies has made me care about them any more. I'm a great admirer of other performances by Campbell Scott and Embeth Davidtz, who play Richard and Mary Parker, but they do nothing for me in these films. And no, simply eliminating all scenes and references to them in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 doesn't come close to solving the problems I had with it, but it would have shortened an overlong movie to a more suitable length and made what doesn't work seem far less painful.

And the worst part is, director Marc Webb didn't have a choice but to deal with these characters substantially in this second installment of this new incarnation of Spider-Man, because the first film painted him into a corner. And that's a shame because Webb gets a great deal of Spider-Man right on the money, especially the interpersonal material between Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield, still the best version of this character who has ever done it) and Gwen Stacy (Emma Stone). In this second film, the parameters of their relationship are beautifully established. She's the fixer, the caregiver, the protector, while Peter is a bit all over the place, desperately in need of someone to keep his head in the game. They aren't the same person, quite the opposite; but they work really well together, and their banter and affection for one another feel genuine, even if Peter's guilt about telling Gwen's now-late father he'd keep her out of danger threatens to tear them apart (actually, it does for a time).

But for those of you who don't care about the mushy stuff, there's a great deal more action in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2, and a lot of it looks like an actual comic book brought to life. The opening Spider-Man versus Russian thug Aleksei Sytsevich (Paul Giamatti) battle is an absolutely perfect realization of a Spider-Man comic book battle, or at least the best I've seen. Late in the film as well, Spider-Man comes face to face with Sytsevich again, this time in the armored guise of The Rhino, and again, the film elevates itself all too briefly to remind us of one of the many reasons this character is so popular. Here's a guy who loves being Spider-Man; he's not some angst-ridden hero who's constantly questioning why he does what he does (even when he has reason to). He knows that he was put on this earth and given these gifts to help people.

That's one of the most noticeable differences between this film and most other superhero movies is that there are a great number of shots of Spider-Man saving individual people from falling debris or other hazards. One of those saved is Max Dillon (Jamie Foxx), an uber-nerd and gifted electrician who is obsessed with Spider-Man even before they meet and the hero declares Dillion his "eyes and ears" on the street. For a brief moment, an invisible man is noticed and made special by his idol, and Max (clearly mentally unstable from the start) loses his grip on reality and starts lashing out at those who don't treat him with respect.

The problem with the Dillon character is that he's more of a caricature of a nerd, hitting every stereotype of nerd-domoversized glasses, terrible combover, funky teeth, and a goofy voice that seems only necessary as a means to contrast with the deep, sinister voice he uses when he is transformed into Electro, a human battery that sucks up and shoots out energy in a seemingly limitless capacity. Like Spider-Man, Electro is a product of an accident at Oscorp, apparently the only company in existence in New York City, and it typifies one of the many problems with these new stories. The filmmakers seem to believe that everything has to be connected somehow, either by design or coincidence. Sure, it makes the storytelling simpler, but having Oscorp for the center of all things seems silly and worse, lazy.

Feel free to lay some of the blame at everybody's favorite genre screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who along with Jeff Pinkner came up with a story that feels more like an in-between movie, transitioning this new Spider-Man in the last movie to the already-announced expanded universe of films to come. Nothing but Peter and Gwen stays on the screen long enough for us to grasp onto and care about, and that includes Electro, whose ultimate motivations for turning villain are just asinine, and Harry Osborn (Dane DeHaan), Peter's old childhood friend (and son of Oscorp founder Normanthe connections never stop), who is suffering from a debilitating disease that forces him to takes chemicals that turn him into fan-favorite The Green Goblin.

Dopey motivations aside, the villains aren't bad in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2. I liked the look and approach that Foxx assumes for Electro, and DeHaan is outright freakish in his Goblin attire, which does away with the plastic-mask look from Sam Raimi's version, and instead makes him look like the worst kind of junkie, with his eyes blazing and hair spinning up into the air. Giamatti's Rhino resembles a tank set upright and given legs, and that works for me. The problem is, he's barely in the filma huge flaw among many.

The film finds slivers of time for hinted-at characters who might be more important in future films. Felecity Jones shows up as Harry's assistant "Felicia," while another Oscorp big wig Donald Menken (Colm Feore) shows up, possibly to become The Vulture in future films. Sally Field returns as Aunt May, but her main function seems to be to almost catch Peter in his room while he's still got his Spider-Man suit on, clearly a metaphor for masturbating.

There are so many transitions in this film that feel like there's scene missing to take us from one plot point to the next. It's not just the villains' motivations that make no sense; almost no major decision or turn is fully explained or sensible. If anyone buys the friendship between Peter and Harry, I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell you (so Spider-Man can spin a love note on it).

I'm not going to talk about the film's major, climactic development hereI have interviews for this film that I'll post on Ain't It Cool News early next week that will have plenty of thosebut I do want to emphasize the even in that moment, the film doesn't feel quiet like it's earned the emotion that should go along with it. That being said, many people in the screening I saw it with were bawling their eyes out, so maybe I'm just dead in the heart, but I'd like to think that's not the case.

What works in THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 works so well that it should tell you something when I say that what doesn't work drags the film down so far that I can't bring myself to fully recommend it. Much like after watching the last film, I feel like what will come next will be better, but I think the odds of that actually happening are unlikely. I get that Spider-Man stories have always had humor as a major component, but I'm fairly certain that it's preferable to have the audience laughing with you rather than at you.

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112. "Much, much better than everyone is saying. I don't get it. "
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I'll start with the negatives: Spoiler warning.

-Frank is spot on regarding Foxx. Electro definitely came across like a villain from Schumacher's Batman movies.They made him WAY too powerful in contrast to what he actually does. It was basically a Michael Bay production on the Electro front. Don't bother giving him anything interesting to do, just make him blue and give him godlike power and have him do some shit that looks really, really, REALLY fucking great on screen. He spoke only in cliches and didn't do a whole hell of a lot.

-I'll even submit that he was absolutely the wrong villain for this movie. He's essentially on some god mode shit and to me, that kind of power demands an arrogance and dominance we just didn't get.

-I didn't like the moment Harry turned into the Goblin, and couldn't stand the mechanism that caused it.

On to the positives:

-This is actually the best story of any Spiderman film to date. Spiderman 2 was definitely more concise and considerably better executed, but I like this story better. I love how Peter actually has a story arc and goes through some serious emotions as opposed to the annoying "I'm poor and love Mary Jane but she wants my bff and then she married spaceman spiff and I'm still super poor and can't pay my rent." I love the way they simply allude to the fact that, yeah, the Parker household isn't doing so hot on the financial front, but holy shit... the original trilogy just fucking beat that trope to death. Here, it's more like "yeah, they're broke, here's all this other shit that's much more interesting."

-Gwen>Mary Jane, as far as the movies go. Further, the depiction of their relationship in this movie was excellent. I don't get the complaints that they were too quippy or cutesy. They came across as very genuine and real to me.

-Oh, and Garfield IS Peter Parker as far as I'm concerned. He's much better than Toby to me. To me, they absolutely nailed Spiderman's attitude from start to finish.

-Harry and Peter's relationship was well done. The movie doesn't spend a lot of time on any one element. Yes, there is a lot going on but the pacing was so smooth and each scene gives you everything you need to get from it. I completely bought Harry's rage when he realized Peter was Spiderman, and I completely bought his anger when Spiderman refused to give up his blood. Hated Harry's tantrum though.

-While Electro was boring as fuck and I didn't like him being reduced to one of Harry's minions, I loved the moment and motivation for why those two came together. Harry flat out said, hey, I fucking NEED YOU, and all Electro wants is to be needed. I thoroughly hated Electro being such a bitch, but I have to admit they executed that scene very well. I also liked the tag team routine on the Oscorp security asshole.

-I don't think the Rhyno inclusion was particularly great, but I don't see how he was awful or made the movie a mess. I've read reviews of people saying he didn't do anything and was just there to be there, but the truth is he was used very well to tease the next movie. I'm not a fan of Giamatti's shtick overall, either.

I like the back story with Peter's parents and the reveal of the origin of the spider that bit Peter.

All in all, I think Electro was the wrong villain for this story, at least for the way he was used. I personally think Kraven would have been a much better villain for this one, and The Vulture would have also made a fine secondary villain.

Electro was largley a waste and Rhino was just fine in his very limited role, but the story was excellent and the overall execution outside of Electro was very well done. Hardly the "mess" people keep calling it. Looks like I'll stand in the extreme minority on this one like I did with MOS.

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118. "Ehh, I liked it better than the first one, which wasn't terrible. Geez."
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And I'm sorry, but I thought Foxx was fine. His performance wasn't the problem, imo it's the fact that it felt like some of his story got cut, and so when he bugs out on Spider-Man in Times Square it feels a little weird. And if anything, the role was written like he was the most simple motherfucker in the world. In current slang terms, he was a "Basic Bitch." His whole "You said you needed me!"/"You need me?" was a little too simple, and since it's being played by Foxx, a bit too Simple Minded Brute Negro for my tastes. Don't know if the character is drawn that way in the comics, but it would have been nice if Foxx had asked if the 4 credited writers could have given a little more to the guy than that. But otherwise, I thought his performance was fine.

Also, if we gonna talk about how allegedly bad Foxx was, are we gonna talk about how Dane DeHaan BLATANTLY STYLE JACKED ALL OF LEO DICAPRIO'S CAREER for his performance, or nah? I was practically hoping for Leo to just interrupt Dane's scene chewing at any point and tell him to send him at least 2 residual checks. I mean, cmon.

Look, the first AMS was for the ladies, this one is for the ladies and mainly your little bro. Eh.

Also, they could have kept that X-Men "teaser," complete with Fox logos and all.

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119. "agreed "
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It wasn't as good as Cap 2, but I thought it was aiight. About the same as the first, maybe a little better.

I don't agree with comparisons to Schumacher. No one hams it up *that* much, and they overall tone isn't that campy. The Schumacher films didn't seem to take themselves that seriously.

I mean, all of Frank's reasons for hating it are on the mark, I just didn't set the bar so high for this in the first place. At most I gave them props for making the Green Goblin a lot more menacing than Willem Dafoe's clunky costume in the original.

Basically, if the Avengers movies are hamburgers, than these Spiderman movies are like pop tarts. They will do just fine, but you're probably not going to rave about it later.

The only part that I flat out disliked was the mid-credits Xmen thing. It's almost (almost but NOT) funny that they randomly threw it in there. It's not like it was hinting at a Spiderman/Xmen crossover--that shit didn't have anything to do with anything. It's like if you watch The Wolf of Wallstreet and there's a mid-credits scene for Godzilla. Sony is trying to jack whatever they can from what worked for The Avengers movies, even if it doesn't make any damned sense.

  

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120. "The mid-credits scene had nothing to do with aping The Avengers "
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It was part of the deal Sony struck with Fox in order to get Webb, since he had a preexisting deal with Fox at the time.

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121. "I can't speak for the business reasons"
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But the Avengers movies have gotten their game down to a science with the mid and after credits scenes.

This movie (and the last for that matter) was clearly trying to ride that same formula. Only this time they were using it to push a movie that wasn't connected at all to the one we just watched.

I mean, great for Sony and Fox working out a deal, but that shit was the worst idea ever.

  

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125. "Uh... business reasons are exactly why this isn't an example of them "
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trying to ride that same formula.

The Mystique shit was ONLY to help Fox promote X-Men. There was nothing for Sony to gain from that outside of getting the director they wanted for in exchange for this promotion, and it happened like 4 years ago.

Further, it's a formula that works and there;s no reason others can't use it. The Shazam shit was wack though, I must admit. But the Mystique shit is not an example of aping Marvel Studios, and it was done for business reasons whether you can speak for it or not. They offered to promote Fox's movie to get Webb, and that's the way Fox chose to do it. I fail to see how it's an example of trying to ride that formula when it doesn't benefit them. That makes zero sense.

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128. "this is not even worth debating"
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Can we at least admit that it was not good and totally out of place?

You're kind of arguing something that no one cares about. That's cool that you know how it came about between Sony & Fox. But basically what it boiled down to was a lot of people sitting in the theater during the credits waiting for a juicy mid-credits scene, as with other Marvel films...then getting that scene and leaving the theater thinking "What was that random shit? It had nothing to do with nothing."



  

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136. "I did too"
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Electro wasn't as bad as he seemed in the previews
There were funny parts

What's her name annoyed me as Gwen Stacey
But I still felt bad for peter

Aunt May was wonderful as always


Dunno about green goblin dude
Meh

But I enjoyed
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122. "It's amazing to me how well these guys nail Peter Parker/Spiderman...."
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...yet completely miss the mark when it comes to villains.

I liked the movie. But it's flaws are glaring. Electro doesn't *seem* like he's from a Schumaker Bat film, he *is*. It's Edward Nygma's storyline completely! And while I thought the action sequence with Giamatti in the truck was awesome, that end Rhino bit was just annoying. And a weird way to end your film. I'll confess that I liked the thing with the little kid (as corny as saccharine as it was), but other than that I don't understand what the point was there. And that Mech suit looked terrible.

Dehaan was awesome as Harry. And the interplay between him and Garfield I thought was really great. But man, once he injected the spider venom, it was all over for him being a quality presence. I did really like the scene where he and Electro took over Oscorp though.

Jamie wasn't very good. And I see a lot of people putting that on the character and the screenplay, but I'll be the first person to say, no... he was just terrible. Sure that other stuff did him no favors but he made some really goofy choices in there. To me it felt like he was acting with a sense that the material was beneath him, which whether that's true or not, completely hurt the performance.

I didn't mind the Papa Parker subplot as much as I thought I was going to. Chris Cooper on the other hand was completely wasted. And I liked the Peter and Gwen stuff. I thought it was handled well enough.

So even with all those problems, I still really enjoyed the film. And here's why: I could probably watch a 2 hour movie of Spiderman swinging through NYC with no story, just quipping. I'm still a kid when it comes to that stuff, and holy shit it looked amazing. Spectacular even. Puns intended. That opening truck chace played exactly like the Ultimate Spiderman cartoon, and I loved every second of it.

Question, did anyone else feel like Garfield was channeling Corey Haim in that graduation scene? No? Just me? lol

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123. "i'm prettymuch with 112 and 122..."
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i genuinely ENJOYed myself in this flick.

no it was not perfect. but yes i left satisfied.

Garfield & Emma are just perfect. PERFECTly cast and both nail their performances & characters. they are the glue. the most believable elements and ground everything. Sally Field is also a great aunt may. (then again, i just love sally field, always have always will)

they've finally nailed the Spiderman character. and i mean nailed it.The opening sequence is just freakin on point as far as that goes. well done.

I liked fox as Eletro, and i liked the look of Electro. no problems there for me.
like i said i left satisfied and thinking that this was the best Spidey movie since the second one in the Rami trilogy.

that doesnt mean it was all PERFECT of course.
my only real problems with the film were...

(SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS::::SPOILERS FOLLOW........)

i felt that Electros turn from -"Spidey's my hero" to "its not my fault" to "i must kill Spidey" was waayyyyy too fast...just wayyyy too fast. so much so that it didnt make sense logically or emotionally to me. that could have been explored explained more.


i felt that we could have used ONE more movie with Gwen Stacey in it before 'it' happened.
the chemistry between Garfield/Stone is GOLD and one more film with us investing in these characters relationship would have (A) given us more screen time with these two and (B) made 'it' even MORE tragic and heartbreaking than it was in this film.

that said, it was plenty tragic in this film. i fully didnt expect them to have the balls to do it, but they damn sure did it...kudos to them for not wussing out. Just wish they would hve given us ONE more film to enjoy the Garfield/Emma chemistry before they went for it...

  

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124. "RE: i'm prettymuch with MOST of 112, 118 and 122..."
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re-read the posts above and, while i agree with some of each, i didnt think Jamie's performance itself was as bad as others thought, the issue i had with the Electro character lied more in the lack of enough story on screen to support the 'motivation switch' ...

>i genuinely ENJOYed myself in this flick.
>
>no it was not perfect. but yes i left satisfied.
>
>Garfield & Emma are just perfect. PERFECTly cast and both nail
>their performances & characters. they are the glue. the most
>believable elements and ground everything. Sally Field is also
>a great aunt may. (then again, i just love sally field, always
>have always will)
>
>they've finally nailed the Spiderman character. and i mean
>nailed it.The opening sequence is just freakin on point as far
>as that goes. well done.
>
>I liked fox as Eletro, and i liked the look of Electro. no
>problems there for me.
>like i said i left satisfied and thinking that this was the
>best Spidey movie since the second one in the Rami trilogy.
>
>that doesnt mean it was all PERFECT of course.
>my only real problems with the film were...
>
>(SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS::::SPOILERS FOLLOW........)
>
>i felt that Electros turn from -"Spidey's my hero" to "its not
>my fault" to "i must kill Spidey" was waayyyyy too fast...just
>wayyyy too fast. so much so that it didnt make sense logically
>or emotionally to me. that could have been explored explained
>more.
>
>
>i felt that we could have used ONE more movie with Gwen Stacey
>in it before 'it' happened.
>the chemistry between Garfield/Stone is GOLD and one more film
>with us investing in these characters relationship would have
>(A) given us more screen time with these two and (B) made
>'it' even MORE tragic and heartbreaking than it was in this
>film.
>
>that said, it was plenty tragic in this film. i fully didnt
>expect them to have the balls to do it, but they damn sure did
>it...kudos to them for not wussing out. Just wish they would
>hve given us ONE more film to enjoy the Garfield/Emma
>chemistry before they went for it...

  

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126. "Electro was obviously a byproduct of the script. "
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I don't think Foxx helped, but he wasn't given a whole lot to do. Either way the character wasn't very well executed. I still don't think it effected the movie very much in the grand scheme.

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127. "oh, and execution-wise, this film prob has the BEST 'spidey-swangin'"
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...off the cuff without rewatching the others, i feel like this one has the best execution of Spiderman swinging through the city of ALL of the spidey flicks...

  

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129. "Maybe it's just me or I'm probably reaching but..."
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did anyone feel that some parts of Jamie Foxx's performance as Electro had some elements to Ralph Ellison's 'Invisible Man' I don't know if it was intentional by the direction or the performance but I kind of got that vibe from it.

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130. "you're reaching"
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Sorry. It wasn't even nearly that deep.

  

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134. "RE: Maybe it's just me or I'm probably reaching but..."
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>did anyone feel that some parts of Jamie Foxx's performance
>as Electro had some elements to Ralph Ellison's 'Invisible
>Man' I don't know if it was intentional by the direction or
>the performance but I kind of got that vibe from it.

man nigga what? stop playing.

you're the only one because that vibe wasn't even remotely present. SMH

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131. "I dug it. Not the best movie, but it's decent. "
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Garfield as Spiderman alone makes it better than them Thor movies that put me to sleep and probably them last 2 Iron Man movies that have nothing memorable in them. Especially the "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - Iron Man Years" joint.

The Special Effects were pretty dope. Jamie was cool, even though I don't remember Electro being that live ever in a comic book.

I even fucked with Emma, and I like her in absolutely nothing.

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132. "RE: The Not So Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Webb, 2014)"
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133. "i enjoyed the hell out of this."
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the story is nothing to write home about, and it is really cheesy at some points (even by comic book movie standards)

but Garfield is an amazing Spiderman (heh). Emma was great as Gwen. Loved Harry and Electro. great soundtrack.

i gotta say i'm digging the ASM series a whole lot more than the first Spidey series.

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135. "Does lack of a post-credits sequence mean anything?"
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To have scenes from another property's (and studio's) movie felt like an apology, rather than an olive branch like the article above tries to spin it. It was a weird gear shift that felt like someone changed the channel for a second, after a cable viewing.

Other than that, I can fly the "decent" flag on this one. Is there a Razzie for worst hair? Having Foxx lick Spidey's hand to fix his combover and the spider blood giving Harry grandpa-hair had me rollin.

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137. "Finally seen this. Works better as a romance than an action movie."
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Which I'm totally cool with. All these joints ain't gotta have the same beats. Allergies started acting up when Gwen caught it.

Better than the first one even though it's more unfocused. Hopefully they can pull it all together for the third one, because they're absolutely NAILING Spidey. They just haven't really nailed the storytelling yet.

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138. "I can't believe this shit is coming out on DVD on August 19th"
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Holy shit.

This special feature had me rolling though:
Lessons Learned: Development and Direction Filmmakers and cast discuss their approach to the sequel and their efforts to make it the best Spider-Man yet.


I might Redbox this shit just to see that special feature.

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139. "gotdamn lessons learned"
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140. "i liked most of it..."
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...i found myself NOT caring about Peter's personal life outside of Aunt May and seeing Capt Stacy everywhere... that shouldn't happen in a Spidey movie... the reveal about his dad was weak and the whole tunnel thing was weak too... when Aunt may said "eff yo daddy" basically, i agreed....

a lot of my problems with this movies aren't in the acting, but the story and direction....the fact that the other poster is right in that Rhino and Electro coulda not been in the movie at all and most of the major events (other than the power going out) woulda happened anyway..is bad....i never believed any major character's motivations for doing anything....Pete's turmoil over all of it was just badly done and i don't think that was bad acting....Dillon is played as the ultimate loser and the hammy nature of him isn't Foxx's fault....i thought i was the only one who thought dude playing Harry was just doing his best immpression of DiCaprio....

the only thing this movie did really well to me were the action scenes...loved all of them, even if the last one has Rhino in that terrible costume...which brings up another point... villans like Rhino and Electro, as they are in the books currently, can't be done well on screen....they just look awful in live action....

the rest of the movie IS an enjoyable mess of a film....it has no focus, and isn't directed or written well



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141. "This piece of shit movie summed up in two videos"
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America from 9:00 on: https://youtu.be/GUwLCQU10KQ

  

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Biggamal
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142. "LOL yo I literally said Bye Felicia in the fucking theatre"
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Well they used to call me Maf

  

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astralblak
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143. "this shit was trash, the end"
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144. "Finally watched this... It's better than I thought it would be... That s..."
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I'm very happy that Marvel is helping Sony from here on out.

Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone keep the chemistry going from the first movie, and are the best part of this. Hell, I'd keep Garfield as Peter, why not.

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