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bwood
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"The Place Beyond the Pines (Cianfrance, 2013)"


          

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=98321

I got a boner...

Can't wait

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Most of the trailer seems to encompass the first half of the movie.
Dec 21st 2012
1
Yeah, I read about that back when it was at Cannes
Dec 24th 2012
4
Ben Mendelsohn in another scumbag role?
Dec 21st 2012
2
OH MAH GAWD Y'ALL
Dec 24th 2012
3
The Soundtrack (Mike Patton, Ennio Morricone, Hall & Oates, etc.)
Mar 26th 2013
5
Watch Cianfrance narrate the opening shot of the movie (SWIPE)
Mar 26th 2013
6
Thanks for that.
Mar 26th 2013
7
I loved this shit niggas!!!
Mar 28th 2013
8
lol
Mar 29th 2013
9
It's a good short with lackluster stories afterwards.
Mar 30th 2013
10
The trailer had me sold and now the nipples do
Apr 01st 2013
11
Am I the only one who doesn't believe Gosling as hardcore?
Apr 02nd 2013
12
no, you're not. He looks way to preppy/babyfaced
May 07th 2013
40
But he's not "hardcore" in this movie. Like, at all.
May 07th 2013
42
      Hardcore, tough, intimidating, scary, mad, angry, whatever
May 07th 2013
43
           He's exactly zero of those things in this movie.
May 08th 2013
44
                Yah right.
Feb 04th 2014
55
Downlaoded a torrent but...
Apr 05th 2013
13
Eva Mendes in that one too?
Apr 08th 2013
18
Ambitious enough... but so maudlin and heavy-handed.
Apr 06th 2013
14
Languid...never heard that word before
Apr 06th 2013
15
The Movie Without an Editor *spoilers*
Apr 07th 2013
16
I thought there was much more good about this than bad..
Apr 08th 2013
17
I too liked the Cooper section best.
Apr 08th 2013
19
Dirt Bikes?? oh i was in off that alone
Apr 08th 2013
20
a stylized tale of desperation, muddled by its bloated epilogue.
Apr 11th 2013
21
the best American movie I've seen this year
Apr 12th 2013
22
One of the better movies I've seen in years.
Apr 14th 2013
23
RE: the best American movie I've seen this year
Jun 10th 2013
51
this needed a good editor cause 40 minutes of it
Apr 14th 2013
24
GREAT film.
Apr 16th 2013
25
Fantastic flick & my favorite so far this year
Apr 17th 2013
26
i loved all of Act 1, half of Act 2, and half of Act 3
Apr 19th 2013
27
I hate this argument....
Apr 21st 2013
28
Applaud the vision but I just wasn't invested in the third act
Apr 28th 2013
29
RE:This is the first great film i've seen this year
May 02nd 2013
30
"someday my pain.."
May 03rd 2013
31
Enjoyed this a lot, and I wouldn't cut one single fucking frame
May 04th 2013
32
Word. Niggas is never pleased
May 05th 2013
33
lol, "never pleased" has nothing to do with it.
May 05th 2013
34
      Man, most of the complaints I've seen and heard from others
May 05th 2013
36
           Which ones in this post?
May 05th 2013
37
                I'll give you that shit. Cause yea, that shit seemed forced.
May 05th 2013
38
RE: Enjoyed this a lot, and I wouldn't cut one single fucking frame
May 05th 2013
39
RE: Enjoyed this a lot, and I wouldn't cut one single fucking frame
Jun 10th 2013
50
lol i dug that
Feb 05th 2014
56
      likewise
Feb 06th 2014
57
RE: The Place Beyond the Pines (Cianfrance, 2013)
May 05th 2013
35
Eh. A Thorough and complete eh.
May 07th 2013
41
difficult...
May 11th 2013
45
Finally got around to this.
May 17th 2013
46
I really don't think you can excise the Cooper section...
May 17th 2013
47
those are very fair points
May 17th 2013
48
was mad during most of the Cooper section, saw this a couple months ago
May 17th 2013
49
RE: shut up
Jun 10th 2013
52
i don't think it was supposed to be a huge reveal
Feb 04th 2014
54
i loved it
Feb 04th 2014
53

ricky_BUTLER
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1. "Most of the trailer seems to encompass the first half of the movie."
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And it's the second half that TIFF reports suggested had problems.

Blue Valentine was tinkered with after Sundance. Wonder if Cianfrance has made changes following Toronto . . .

  

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ZooTown74
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4. "Yeah, I read about that back when it was at Cannes"
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Including some plot developments that might not be very exciting...

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2. "Ben Mendelsohn in another scumbag role?"
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I'm there

  

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3. "OH MAH GAWD Y'ALL"
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Ryan Gosling, Eva Mendes and her mole, Ashy black dude from the 4400 and Crossing Jordan, Bradley Cooper, Derek Cianfrance, daddy issues, crime drama...

I.AM.SO.THERE

all jokes aside, I can't wait to see this but, as it was stated above, the second half of the movie is a hot mess...so hopefully Cianfrance *WILL* make that part better..

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5. "The Soundtrack (Mike Patton, Ennio Morricone, Hall & Oates, etc.)"
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The Soundtrack (Mike Patton, Ennio Morricone, Hall & Oates, etc.):

http://recordinglivefromsomewhere.com/2013/03/26/soundtrack-derek-cianfrances-the-place-beyond-the-pines/

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The Analyst
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6. "Watch Cianfrance narrate the opening shot of the movie (SWIPE)"
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From the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/video/2013/03/22/movies/100000002133035/inside-the-place-beyond-the-pines.html?ref=movies

This definitely whet my appetite for this...

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7. "Thanks for that. "
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Great stories. That cinematographer sounds crazy. I mean, I agree with him that being inside the ball makes the best shot but that shit isn't happening.

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bwood
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8. "I loved this shit niggas!!!"
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Fuck all the critics saying the 2nd half sucked. You sucked nigga. I'll post more tomorrow.

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9. "lol"
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its either this or Gimme The Loot on Saturday. i haven't decided yet

  

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10. "It's a good short with lackluster stories afterwards."
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Two things jumped out at me.

A. Quite literally, Eva Mendes's areolas. I've seen nipples pop through a shirt but this is the first time I recall seeing a woman's areaolas push through. I definitely saw why she would have got Handsome Luke's eye.

B. I wasn't sure when the movie was initially set. Then there was a 15 years later leap forward so I thought, Oh, it was in the 80's. Then I realized 15 years ago was 1998 and I just felt old.

Beyond that, the beginning of the film is great and after that it's so-so - One part was a fairly standard cop drama while the other part is contrived and just fell flat to me. It kind of felt like this should have been a miniseries instead of a movie. Then maybe they could have built up the second half of the film to make it work.

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11. "The trailer had me sold and now the nipples do"
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12. "Am I the only one who doesn't believe Gosling as hardcore?"
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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40. "no, you're not. He looks way to preppy/babyfaced"
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ZooTown74
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42. "But he's not "hardcore" in this movie. Like, at all."
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He's white trash desperate loser

Far from hardcore

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43. "Hardcore, tough, intimidating, scary, mad, angry, whatever"
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I only believe him when he's quiet and sensitive.
I want to like him in stuff, but every movie he's in immediately becomes science fiction soon as he takes a tone.


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44. "He's exactly zero of those things in this movie."
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Again, the only "tone" that should be read of him in this is poor desperate white trash loser

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55. "Yah right."
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White trash loser who is a stunt-riding motorcyclist....wicked with a butterfly blade...robs banks....fucks hot chicks. Nothing stereotypically cool about those character traits.

  

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13. "Downlaoded a torrent but..."
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It was actually The Place Beyond the Penis.

  

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18. "Eva Mendes in that one too?"
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14. "Ambitious enough... but so maudlin and heavy-handed."
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I admire that Cianfrance wants to do a fathers/sons generational thing, but the pacing is languid and it sinks under its own earnestness.

I admired but didn't care for Blue Valentine either. It's now twice felt like Cianfrance is in love with giving us damaged but beautiful men who we should sympathize with and one-dimensional women we shouldn't. Lots of excuses for Acting with an A, but it never really clicks.

I dug the score, and I actually thought Cooper did terrific work here. Other than that, pass.

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15. "Languid...never heard that word before"
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I'll be damned.
Movie was good enough. May even watch again.

  

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16. "The Movie Without an Editor *spoilers*"
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Everything up to the "15 Years Later" title card was really solid and just lacked a button to bring it all together; the 45 or whatever minutes afterward...I'm sorry, you didnt do enough to make me care about Jacob and AJ is a fuck that should have died and Bradley Cooper just seemed like his dad (message!) and the mothers are given horrible treatment all together. Really only cared about Kofi and Robbin in the second half of the movie, though I couldn't figure out Robbin in the first half.

But pretty movie and really faithful to shitty and dead Schenectady.

  

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17. "I thought there was much more good about this than bad.."
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I think Cianfrance was swinging for the fences. Instead of criticizing him for not hitting a home run, I'm going to applaud him for slapping an RBI double off the wall in left-center.

I don't really share Frank's opinion that the pacing is languid and the story is overly maudlin. My main criticisms were that it's a little heavy-handed and obvious in places, and at times it relies a little too heavily on convenient coincidences.

Still, I like a lot of what Cianfrance did here.

I'm a big fan of the two appropriately open-ended closing shots - two young men, each at long last getting a taste of what it means to be his father's son.

I'm surprised that people are saying the movie falls off when the focus shifts to Cooper. To me, he gave by far the best performance of the movie (though the whole supporting cast is excellent, especially Mendelsohn and to a lesser extent Liota and Mahershala Ali). His scene with Bruce Greenwood where he's recounting the shooting was one of my favorite scenes. To me, essentially swapping lead actors mid-way though the movie was a calculated risk that ended up working.

Overall I probably put this in the B+ range. I think Cianfrance has the potential to make a really great movie someday.

Also, the cinematography by the guy who shoots Steve McQueen's movies is great, proving yet again that 35mm still looks richer and better than digital.

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19. "I too liked the Cooper section best."
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It was the least maudlin and the most subtle leading man performance. It was heavy handed as the rest of the film, but I admired that Cooper continues to become a leading man who I feel I've underestimated. Plus, HARRIS FUCKING YULIN.

And I agree that Cianfrance's ambition should be praised. Scott Renshaw said, "THE PLACE BEYOND THE PINES is absolutely the kind of movie I'd like to see made more often. But I'd also like it to be made better." I agree with that sentiment.

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20. "Dirt Bikes?? oh i was in off that alone "
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21. "a stylized tale of desperation, muddled by its bloated epilogue."
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the opening, dueling stories of Luke and Avery are relatively simple, but done with such craft (cinematography and score especially) that they become more than that. the desperate actions from both men are captivating.

while they inhabited the traditional good vs. evil forms (cop and robber), I don't think morality was the difference between them. Avery's choices were mostly done to satisfy his ambition and ego, not because he was a better person than Luke (who did everything for his son). reporting the scandal let him accelerate his career, divorcing his wife removed the disconnect he had for his own son, and even his shooting of Luke had dubious motivations.

the third "act", however, nearly spends all the goodwill from the preceding 100 minutes. the long-winded point is that both failed as fathers, yet their respective positions in life result in different payoffs: Avery continues his political ascent, criminal son posing at his side, while Jason becomes the same drifter his father was, poised to repeat Luke's mistakes (a literal fall).

unfortunately, you can pinpoint that conclusion from their sons' first meeting, resulting in an arduous journey of coincidences and callbacks. the tenseness and style from the first two-thirds of the movie evaporates, the sons being metaphorical placeholders rather than characters.

like others though, I applaud the ambition. Cianfrance tried to stretch a triple into an inside-the-park home run, but didn't have the legs for it.

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22. "the best American movie I've seen this year"
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kinda reminded me of some of James Gray's stuff. The saga aspect of the movie didn't fully work, but I enjoyed the way it was constructed, and with strong acting and stirring cinematography throughout I had no problem with the length. I wish the movie would've spent more time with Eva Mendes (and to a lesser extent Rose Byrne), but I still felt like I got decent insight into her character from when she was on-screen. Shockingly I wasn't even mad at that Bon Iver song at the end, even though a similar choice had me rolling my eyes during Rust and Bone. Maybe because the score was mostly excellent here. And +100pts for including some Bruce.

I still think Blue Valentine was the better movie, but this one might be my favorite of the two.

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23. "One of the better movies I've seen in years."
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Good acting, liked the flow of the movie, story kept me interested throughout. Gonna see it twice.

  

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51. "RE: the best American movie I've seen this year"
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I'm with you. Love this movie.

  

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24. "this needed a good editor cause 40 minutes of it"
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Sun Apr-14-13 08:50 PM by SankofaII

  

          

needed to be CUT from the movie.

I preferred Gosling's section the most.

Cooper: I just couldn't buy him as being a cop turned rat turned Attorney General at all. Nothing about the character's journey and how he played it rang true or believable.

And *THIS* should have been the section that was believable since it set up the remainder of the film.

the final third with the kids was surprisingly good. Dude that played AJ was laying on the wiggerisms HOARD; Dane DeHaan turns in yet another fantastic performance as Jason...

Everyone else was very good...Eva Mendes was a shock as Romina...I guess all she needs is a role where she's playing a downtrodden, beat down working class woman with no makeup she can excel...I guess this is her "uglification" role that will get her better work.

But solid movie...I just wished it had tighter editing and the like.

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25. "GREAT film."
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I was surprised at how well the three acts tied together. Bradley Cooper is getting unfairly shit on and I don't think it's fair cause he was great in this. ALL THREE ACTS were compelling to me too, and that's amazing in itself because each story could have been it's own film if stretched out.

  

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26. "Fantastic flick & my favorite so far this year"
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For such a serious tone, this had some great comic relief at times

Was I the only one crackin up @ Gosling's voice cracks during the robberies? Or the old lady & kid who couldn't throw the bag over? Or the dance w/ Ben(of course he killed it again)Mendelsohn's dog?

The 3rd act could've been better w/ Emile Hirsch replacing Emory Cohen as AJ...but the rest was so good it didn't completely ruin it for me.

  

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27. "i loved all of Act 1, half of Act 2, and half of Act 3"
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spoilers



goslings segment was incredible to me. how the film transitioned to coopers story was so fluid and great. But then when Ray Liotta entered the room, the movie got weird. I didnt really get the whole corruption part of the film. I didnt see why it was necessary but I kinda get it in the scope of the decisions that were made. I just didnt like those decisions very much.

The third act made sense in that it followed up the flawed second act in a realistic way. I just didnt like it all that much. AJ was over-wigga'd. Dane Dehaan was absolutely fantastic and did more than what was required of him.

Im just preaching to the choir that the editing of the second half of this film was just so disjointed from the nearly flawless first half.

Overall, this is a solid B film with an A+ first hour. Too bad.

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28. "I hate this argument...."
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Over wigga'd? I knew a bunch of kids like AJ. They all were just tryin to be something but they weren't quite themselves yet. It was authentic to me. A lot of kids front and it's embarrassing and wack but they're kids. Wherever AJ was that's what he became to cope and to try and be someone. Doesn't make it phony or forced.

  

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29. "Applaud the vision but I just wasn't invested in the third act"
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The entire film was beautifully shot, great music, excellent performances (imo Ben Mendolhson as Robin headlined the performances, both Gosling and Cooper were excellent as well with a lot of emphasis placed on them with the close-ups)....all the ingredient were there with an excellent 1st and 2nd acts but the 3rd act with the two kids just didn't resonate with me at all. Maybe it was due to such a large jump in time that so many of the generational connections (like with Gosling's son going back to see Robin) weren't marinated enough to really hit me emotionally...logically, I knew exactly what Cianfranc was going for but I just couldn't feel it. The most emotional moment to me was when Eva Mendez gets that old picture in the mail.

As I said above...love the vision and the attempt but my lack of resonance with the third act negated the generational impact that Cianfranc was aiming for.

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30. "RE:This is the first great film i've seen this year"
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go see this!
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31. ""someday my pain..""
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i'd put "the wolves" - bon iver somewhere on this list:

http://www.spinner.com/2011/06/14/best-closing-songs/

  

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32. "Enjoyed this a lot, and I wouldn't cut one single fucking frame"
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I was only annoyed with Mike Patton's "ominous," minor-key score

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33. "Word. Niggas is never pleased "
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I do like the score though.

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34. "lol, "never pleased" has nothing to do with it."
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I struggle to believe that you or any fan of the film can't imagine why others wouldn't find the film to their tastes. It's a very melodramatic, methodically paced, and unconventionally structured film.

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36. "Man, most of the complaints I've seen and heard from others"
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are just bitching about some dumb shit.

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37. "Which ones in this post?"
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Outside of the "wigger stereotype" complaint, which I agree is dumb.

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38. "I'll give you that shit. Cause yea, that shit seemed forced."
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39. "RE: Enjoyed this a lot, and I wouldn't cut one single fucking frame"
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>I was only annoyed with Mike Patton's "ominous," minor-key
>score
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wait, you DIDN'T like this score?? that was the icing dawg!

to each his own tho.

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50. "RE: Enjoyed this a lot, and I wouldn't cut one single fucking frame"
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Yeah, that was my only criticism. I loved the music; however, when Gosling sees ol' dude on the other dirtbike and then in his truck, the music gets really dark and evil.. but it ain't even like that. Way off, I thought.

  

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56. "lol i dug that"
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>I was only annoyed with Mike Patton's "ominous," minor-key
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57. "likewise "
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i think he stole a piece from jonny greenwood's there will be blood score too

  

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35. "RE: The Place Beyond the Pines (Cianfrance, 2013)"
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Yo... fuck the plot, the cinematography was ridiculous! it was like watching a crime drama version of children of men. and what are ya'll talking about the editing? the editing was sparse which gave the film its unique character.

also, soooo many things were NON-cliche and NON-formulaic about this flick that it trounces whatever minute flaws ya'll are nitpicking about. crazy visceral and realistic throughout...

-the opening scene?? DOPE AS FUCK. i was sitting there like how did they do this shit?!?

-first robbery sequence??? WTF? I didn't even expect that shit. it just sort of came out of nowhere. EXTREMELY DOPE.

-the car chase through the cemetery??? HOLY SHIT SON! that joint was amazing! no cuts, GOTDAMN

-when liotta pulls cooper over, you can just FEEL the tension. that POV shot where you can see like 1/3rd of his face... shit just worked on so many levels.

-then when cooper follows him in the forest, you're just thinking "WTF YOU DOING SON GET OUT OF THERE!" and 2 seconds later cooper peels out. again, very NON-formulaic.

yeah... the shit sort of waivers in the 3rd act but the acting and last couple of scenes more than make up for it.

acting: A / cinematography: A+ / pacing: A- / story-plot: B / soundtrack: A+

Overall fantastic film that merits repeat viewings.

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41. "Eh. A Thorough and complete eh."
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I don't buy ryan gosling doing anything remotely criminal, violent or thuggish.

And the movie was too long to be so predictable and trite, in the end. For a film about fathers and sons, Kofi and the chronicle kid's relationship was more or less ignored, and I felt that could have added a degree of nuance to the themes of the narrative that this film really really could have benefited from.

As it stands, the film is way too pat.

  

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45. "difficult..."
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..for the average fan to digest, that is

in a world where hollywood serves up sugar cookies as standard fare, this film made some slight changes to the recipe. what could have been a powerful short, eventually became an interesting feature about the evolution of actions that span across several generations.

gosling's turn as luke is desperate & riveting. the troubled drifter can't seem to escape the darkness that has shadowed his entire life.

bradley cooper surprises in a role that left no chance for humor, yet gave an intimate look at that continuing evolution of an imperfect life, and its effect on the lives of others.

the rest of this story is lost in the muddle of weeds that often exist when the garden is left unattended.

C+


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46. "Finally got around to this."
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I Agree with Soul Honky, Longo and Cyren. Goslings section is great, than the film loses its emitonal gravitas, becomes disjointed thematically and I just didn't feel invested by the end.

I really hope that ohh shit that's the son grown up moment wasn't suppose to be as such, yet the two young actors did the damn thing. Honestly cut out Coopers section and tie the first and third act together into a 90min film and this wouldve been an B+

Overall 2.5/5

  

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47. "I really don't think you can excise the Cooper section..."
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>Honestly cut out Coopers section and tie the first
>and third act together into a 90min film and this wouldve been
>an B+

I think the contrast between Cooper and Gosling is huge key of what Cianfrance is getting at. In other words, I think the fact that they're around the same age and even look slightly alike is sort of the point - one comes from a shitty background of no opportunities, the other is the son of a supreme court judge. Neither is entirely good or entirely bad, but when poor, underprivileged people make a mistake, it fucks them. When connected, privileged people make a mistake, they navigate the system and get elected District Attorney.

If you take out the second part and just leave the third, you still get the thread about children paying for the sins of their parents, but you don't get the commentary on class disparity.

Anyway, I personally thought the Cooper part was the best segment of the movie...

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48. "those are very fair points"
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Honestly I under valued Cianfrance's class exploration. I was too caught up in the narrative of an outsider/outlaw trying to do right by his one night stand and son, that when Cooper's story began I quickly lost interest.

I could say how would cut that part of the film, but really there's no need

  

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49. "was mad during most of the Cooper section, saw this a couple months ago"
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and didn't really even realize the film was getting chopped into thirds, loved the first, then when that ended found myself annoyed that they were onto the second but I felt like the third part sorta brought me back around & justified the second's existence.

There probably could have been cuts somewhere along the line but I'll probably need to see it again to see which parts, another thing I didn't realize going in is that it was a full two-and-a-half-hours plus.....that's getting to that 'hard to justify without being extraodinary' length.

But overall I liked it, 3 or 3.5 out of 5. Well-acted all the way around.

  

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52. "RE: shut up"
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54. "i don't think it was supposed to be a huge reveal"
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i thought they made it obvious enough that we would have been surprised if the other kid *wasn't* Jason. but yeah.. both those kids killed it.

>I really hope that ohh shit that's the son grown up moment
>wasn't suppose to be as such, yet the two young actors did the
>damn thing.

  

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53. "i loved it"
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the structure threw me off at first. i went in knowing nothing, so i had no idea how they could possibly keep up Gosling's storyline for 2+ hours, but that was answered of course. it has some flaws but overall solid imo. pretty haunting score

and Ray Liotta was born to play dirty cops.

  

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