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"Paranormal Activity 4 (Joost and Schulman, 2012)"


  

          

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The last one might have been the best one, honestly.
Aug 01st 2012
1
Theyve all been pretty good tbh.
Aug 01st 2012
3
It is the best one.
Aug 01st 2012
5
3 was surprisingly good...
Aug 02nd 2012
9
I'm there.
Aug 01st 2012
2
We talked about it, and I think we've all come to the conclusion
Aug 01st 2012
4
This will be the first one I see in the theater.
Aug 02nd 2012
6
If you see it with a packed/decent-sized crowd, you're in for a treat.
Aug 02nd 2012
7
      Coming from a dude that DESPISES packed theaters
Aug 03rd 2012
10
           Man y'all got me hyped!
Aug 04th 2012
12
Damn, I still haven't gotten around to part three yet.
Aug 02nd 2012
8
You owe it to yourself.
Aug 03rd 2012
11
      I agree
Aug 04th 2012
13
           Paranormal Activity: The Chronology
Aug 05th 2012
15
This is beginning to be like SAW...
Aug 05th 2012
14
It's nothing like SAW
Aug 05th 2012
16
RE: It's nothing like SAW
Aug 05th 2012
18
      This is nothing like that at all. In any way, shape, or form.
Aug 05th 2012
20
All three movies are better than the best Saw. n/m
Aug 05th 2012
17
NOTHING like Saw. NOTHING. Nothing at all. Not even close.
Aug 05th 2012
19
      You're missing a very simple point....
Aug 05th 2012
21
           Why are you posting like it's 1999, right today?
Aug 06th 2012
23
                33% rotten on Rotten Tomatoes
Oct 17th 2012
26
                     ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. You're terrible at this.
Oct 17th 2012
27
                          SO YOU'RE AN EXPERIENCED FILM CRITIC?
Oct 17th 2012
31
                               You're really not thinking here.
Oct 17th 2012
32
Pretty lame trailer, but maybe the other ones were too.
Aug 06th 2012
22
unlike others here, I thought PA 3 was terrible (spoiler)
Aug 06th 2012
24
The difference between 2 and 3 though...
Aug 07th 2012
25
as long as it advances the story in some capacity is all I care about
Oct 17th 2012
28
prepare to be dissapointed then. nm
Oct 17th 2012
29
      might have go see Sinister instead then...lol
Oct 19th 2012
37
      It advanced in the same way the third does. *vague spoiler*
Oct 19th 2012
38
What started strongly eventually devolved into shit.
Oct 17th 2012
30
That's a problem.
Oct 17th 2012
33
i actually liked 3 the best, although the end was some
Oct 18th 2012
34
Agreed.
Oct 22nd 2012
39
Nowhere near as bad as being advertised.
Oct 19th 2012
35
Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Oct 19th 2012
36
Good scares, thin story, less titties, MAD logic breaks.
Oct 22nd 2012
40
I thoroughly agree with these two reviews
Oct 22nd 2012
41
well y'all gon see Paranormal Activity 5 (Fall 2013) and
Oct 22nd 2012
42
That's supposed to be a spinoff and have no direct tie to PA
Oct 22nd 2012
43
      RE: That's supposed to be a spinoff and have no direct tie to PA
Oct 22nd 2012
44
      I've got my nitpicks but I still enjoy every one of them.
Oct 22nd 2012
50
      It's alluded to after the credits of PA 4 nm
Oct 22nd 2012
45
           I know, I saw it, and that changes nothing.
Oct 22nd 2012
46
           you misread him
Oct 22nd 2012
47
                I misread Sankofa, not bwood
Oct 22nd 2012
48
                Thank you
Oct 22nd 2012
49
                     Never said you did. I merely reiterated my point.
Oct 22nd 2012
51
           Shoot, I didn't stay after the credits. What happened?
Oct 24th 2012
52
                It's not that big a deal (spoiler)
Oct 27th 2012
58
Robbie and those sandals with the tube socks-best shit in the movie
Oct 25th 2012
53
*shrugs* I liked it.
Oct 26th 2012
54
This felt like 2 to me, 3 is still the best one
Oct 26th 2012
55
The Joost/Schulman directing duo is nice...
Oct 26th 2012
56
this movie was terrible (slight spoiler)
Oct 27th 2012
57
^^^
Oct 28th 2012
59
It's about time these niggas did this
Nov 06th 2012
60
That shit was funny
Nov 06th 2012
61
They go through all that trouble to logically set up cameras.... (SPOILE...
Feb 22nd 2013
62

Frank Longo
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1. "The last one might have been the best one, honestly."
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Wed Aug-01-12 01:03 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

That oscillating fan cam is exactly the kind of innovation that captures the balance between fun and scare that this franchise tends to excel in.

Skype cam scares? GOOD. I trust Joost and Schulman.

I'll be there.

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3. "Theyve all been pretty good tbh."
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Ill be there.

  

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5. "It is the best one."
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9. "3 was surprisingly good..."
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I will probably go see this one but I'm not expecting anything.

  

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2. "I'm there."
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4. "We talked about it, and I think we've all come to the conclusion"
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These are their bread and butter. They do these VERY well, but when attempting to place this on other situations it doesn't work as well.

The river started off good, but fell apart.

I think 3 might've been the best, the kitcehen scene, and when they come out of the bathroom those scenes are damn good.

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6. "This will be the first one I see in the theater. "
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I love these movies.

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7. "If you see it with a packed/decent-sized crowd, you're in for a treat."
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People really get into it

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10. "Coming from a dude that DESPISES packed theaters"
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These films are the ONLY films where I highly advise seeing it in a packed room.

Some of the most fun you can have in a movie theater in decades IMO.

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12. "Man y'all got me hyped!"
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Seriously. I love these movies.

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8. "Damn, I still haven't gotten around to part three yet."
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Gonna have to order the third one on ondemand, as I haven't seen it in any redboxes as of late.

I honestly never understood the hate these movies get. I thought the first two were entertaining as hell.

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11. "You owe it to yourself. "
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I still think the first was the best, and the third was stronger than the second, but all three are fantastic and the tie ins between the three are very well done.

  

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They are all good on some level. I haven't rewatched any though. How is the replay value.

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15. "Paranormal Activity: The Chronology"
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Sequences all three movies in order and adds back in all the deleted scenes.

Sort of like an extended director's cut.

I think these replay well on revisits. Less so if you JUST watched them. But if it's been a while, it still plays well. Probably especially if you watch it with some new blood.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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14. "This is beginning to be like SAW..."
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I mean four films covering over 25 years of found footage for one family is really lame...

The format is watered down, since the most powerful impact of the first film was that originally Katie either slits her own neck right in front the camera and dies or gets shot by police; that was it, that was really all we needed...

PA2 was a stretch,but a convoluted plot, we find a different family who also has a need to record every damn thing at night is running into the same problems at the same time, which also happens to be Katie's sister. It answers the questions that we have surrounding the beginning and the ending of the first film. It wasn't necessary, but again, it filled in a few plot holes and that was more than ENOUGH....

PA3 then takes us back to the eighties, WTF? We now have to accept to younger actresses as Katie and Kristi and again, the spooky shit is happening back then and being presented to us as "found footage". What takes away the mystique of film making is the mechanism verifying the need for an audience to watch this "mockumentary". After Blair Witch Project, the "found footage" was deemed to be fictional, we all know it never happened, but you have to wheel us in with good bait in order us to believe that this happened in order for us to care for the "real people" that are being terrorized by this entity known as "Toby". PA3 had its moments, but went into the unnecessary realm, which just didn't work for me.

After PA 3 I thought any else involving Katie would be too much of a stretch. From the trailer, it eludes to the fact that she somehow managed to survive with Hunter as a demon possessed entity for two years and even got a house? WTF...

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16. "It's nothing like SAW"
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ghost thriller >> torture porn.

and the mythology is way better.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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18. "RE: It's nothing like SAW"
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>ghost thriller >> torture porn.
>
>and the mythology is way better.
>
>
Its nothing like SAW, what I mean is that the franchise has over run its course and now is just milking the profits that producers knows it can make. SAW became retarded after Jigsaw was murdered in the third film and still someone found it necessary to continue his work. The same is for the "Final Destination" film franchise, which has two more films in the works and is now just a dark comedy with cartoonish style death scenes. Three films covering the same thing is a completion of a series. When you start getting into part 4,5 & 6 and further, things get silly...

I'm saying that I hope this is the last one for Paranormal Activity. Kill Katie's ass off or at least let her show us those tig ol' bitties after three years from the orignal film....

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20. "This is nothing like that at all. In any way, shape, or form. "
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>Its nothing like SAW, what I mean is that the franchise has
>over run its course and now is just milking the profits that
>producers knows it can make.

....and they're all quality movies. Saw had a fantastic first round, a solid round two, and then the wheels just came off.

>Three films covering the same thing is a
>completion of a series.

Says who? Who wrote this rule?

>When you start getting into part 4,5 &
>6 and further, things get silly...

No... 4/5/6 doesn't make things silly. The numbers are arbitrary. Things get silly because film makers get lazy and somehow manage to do too much at the same time.

>I'm saying that I hope this is the last one for Paranormal
>Activity. Kill Katie's ass off or at least let her show us
>those tig ol' bitties after three years from the orignal
>film....

Why? You literally never have to watch another one again. It makes no sense to "hope this is the last one", when the LAST one can be the last one for you. Nobody is twisting your arm or haunting your house to make you go see it. Other people enjoy them, why should they be deprived of a movie they want to watch because you don't want to watch them, despite the fact that you literally never have to see one again?

  

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17. "All three movies are better than the best Saw. n/m"
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19. "NOTHING like Saw. NOTHING. Nothing at all. Not even close. "
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>I mean four films covering over 25 years of found footage for
>one family is really lame...

Why is that? And what does that have to do with Saw? Have you seen the third? Because that makes 1/2 make perfect sense. It adds a ton of context to both films.

>The format is watered down, since the most powerful impact of
>the first film was that originally Katie either slits her own
>neck right in front the camera and dies or gets shot by
>police; that was it, that was really all we needed...

Hardly. The most powerful impact was the demon, finding the burnt picture, seeing her man get drug out the place, I mean... that's your opinion and all but there are so many impactful moments that you've got to be ignoring to say her dying was more powerful than the picture or the sight of the demon.

>PA2 was a stretch, but a convoluted plot, we find a different
>family who also has a need to record every damn thing at night
>is running into the same problems at the same time, which also
>happens to be Katie's sister. It answers the questions that we
>have surrounding the beginning and the ending of the first
>film. It wasn't necessary, but again, it filled in a few plot
>holes and that was more than ENOUGH....

It fleshed out the story and introduced a mythology to the story. It did a HELL of a lot more than fill holes, and it's NOT a "different family"- it's Katies family, and again... it makes perfect sense why those same problems would happen.

>PA3 then takes us back to the eighties, WTF? We now have to
>accept to younger actresses as Katie and Kristi and again, the
>spooky shit is happening back then and being presented to us
>as "found footage". What takes away the mystique of film
>making is the mechanism verifying the need for an audience to
>watch this "mockumentary". After Blair Witch Project, the
>"found footage" was deemed to be fictional, we all know it
>never happened, but you have to wheel us in with good bait in
>order us to believe that this happened in order for us to care
>for the "real people" that are being terrorized by this entity
>known as "Toby". PA3 had its moments, but went into the
>unnecessary realm, which just didn't work for me.

This is retarded. Nobody "believes" this happened, and never did- nobody smart or sane, that is. "Found footage" is a story telling device, and unless you're a complete idiot, you don't believe it actually happened.

>After PA 3 I thought any else involving Katie would be too
>much of a stretch. From the trailer, it eludes to the fact
>that she somehow managed to survive with Hunter as a demon
>possessed entity for two years and even got a house? WTF...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz

Dog

Just don't see it.

I can't see how you saw the third based on your reviews of the first two. Avoid the 4th, or at least get your head on straight, because you have some absurd "points" that show you're just plain not paying attention.

  

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21. "You're missing a very simple point...."
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>>I mean four films covering over 25 years of found footage
>for
>>one family is really lame...
>
>Why is that? And what does that have to do with Saw? Have you
>seen the third? Because that makes 1/2 make perfect sense. It
>adds a ton of context to both films.
>
>>The format is watered down, since the most powerful impact
>of
>>the first film was that originally Katie either slits her
>own
>>neck right in front the camera and dies or gets shot by
>>police; that was it, that was really all we needed...
>
>Hardly. The most powerful impact was the demon, finding the
>burnt picture, seeing her man get drug out the place, I
>mean... that's your opinion and all but there are so many
>impactful moments that you've got to be ignoring to say her
>dying was more powerful than the picture or the sight of the
>demon.
>
>>PA2 was a stretch, but a convoluted plot, we find a
>different
>>family who also has a need to record every damn thing at
>night
>>is running into the same problems at the same time, which
>also
>>happens to be Katie's sister. It answers the questions that
>we
>>have surrounding the beginning and the ending of the first
>>film. It wasn't necessary, but again, it filled in a few
>plot
>>holes and that was more than ENOUGH....
>
>It fleshed out the story and introduced a mythology to the
>story. It did a HELL of a lot more than fill holes, and it's
>NOT a "different family"- it's Katies family, and again... it
>makes perfect sense why those same problems would happen.
>
>>PA3 then takes us back to the eighties, WTF? We now have to
>>accept to younger actresses as Katie and Kristi and again,
>the
>>spooky shit is happening back then and being presented to us
>>as "found footage". What takes away the mystique of film
>>making is the mechanism verifying the need for an audience
>to
>>watch this "mockumentary". After Blair Witch Project, the
>>"found footage" was deemed to be fictional, we all know it
>>never happened, but you have to wheel us in with good bait
>in
>>order us to believe that this happened in order for us to
>care
>>for the "real people" that are being terrorized by this
>entity
>>known as "Toby". PA3 had its moments, but went into the
>>unnecessary realm, which just didn't work for me.
>
>This is retarded. Nobody "believes" this happened, and never
>did- nobody smart or sane, that is. "Found footage" is a story
>telling device, and unless you're a complete idiot, you don't
>believe it actually happened.
>
>>After PA 3 I thought any else involving Katie would be too
>>much of a stretch. From the trailer, it eludes to the fact
>>that she somehow managed to survive with Hunter as a demon
>>possessed entity for two years and even got a house? WTF...
>
>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz
>
>Dog
>
>Just don't see it.
>
>I can't see how you saw the third based on your reviews of the
>first two. Avoid the 4th, or at least get your head on
>straight, because you have some absurd "points" that show
>you're just plain not paying attention.

You can disagree, it's not a matter of being right; however, many people lose interest with sequels when its not even necessary to complete a tale of events. Paranormal Activity 4 is not necessary to finish telling the story of Katie, Kristi and Hunter. Part 2 finished it, that should have been the end of it.

And you're wrong about the "found footage" theme of film making. Back when Blair Witch came out in 1999, the whole aura of the film was that it was "real recovered footage" from three college students that were never seen again. The filmmakers made sure that they keep all public appearances to a minimal until after the film was deemed a success.This helped a viral campaign for the Blair Witch itself which caused a hysteria about the wooded areas in Maryland. From the $20,000 it took to make that film it grossed $248 million. The success came from a film that used little money and innovative fright tactics to wheel in the audience because people thought they were actually viewing the last moments of someone's life!

I admit, the Paranormal Activity series is a good late night scary movie to watch with all the lights out; but its time for filmmakers to conclude the series since its reaching for a continuation that's obviously based on the need to make more money...

On The Lookout 4:
some new music. WTF is going on this year?

  

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23. "Why are you posting like it's 1999, right today? "
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>You can disagree, it's not a matter of being right; however,
>many people lose interest with sequels when its not even
>necessary to complete a tale of events.

But... people ARE interested in these sequels. YOU'RE not.

Paranormal Activity 4
>is not necessary to finish telling the story of Katie, Kristi
>and Hunter. Part 2 finished it, that should have been the end
>of it.

Necessity is meaningless and nonsensical argument. A sequel doesn't need to be "necessary" to be made.

>And you're wrong about the "found footage" theme of film
>making.

No, I'm not.

>Back when Blair Witch came out in 1999, the whole aura
>of the film was that it was "real recovered footage" from
>three college students that were never seen again.

THAT WAS IN 1999.

WHO THE FUCK doesn't realize it's just a film making device, RIGHT TODAY? It's like 13 years!

>filmmakers made sure that they keep all public appearances to
>a minimal until after the film was deemed a success.This
>helped a viral campaign for the Blair Witch itself which
>caused a hysteria about the wooded areas in Maryland.

LOL.

Man.

It's 2012, not 1999. You're using what happened waaaaaaaaaaay back then, how THAT movie went down, as though TODAY, RIGHT TODAY, mass numbers of people think found footage films are "real". I guess EVERYONE REALLY THOUGHT a giant godilla monster invaded new york, or three kids had superpowers and one of them went ballistic and destroyed Seattle.

No, nobody bought into that. People understood that those movies were MOVIES using found footage as a story telling device. Blair Witch had people fooled, and then people realized it was a work.... and now they realize it's a format, and not real.

From the
>$20,000 it took to make that film it grossed $248 million. The
>success came from a film that used little money and innovative
>fright tactics to wheel in the audience because people thought
>they were actually viewing the last moments of someone's life!

LOL LOL LOL LOL

Blair Witch went down over a decade ago. It spawned the format. Stop using that to continue pretending that people in general are fucking stupid and thought Cloverfield, PA, and Chronicle were real. Oh I suppose Project X was real too. LOL. Come on man. Be realistic.

>I admit, the Paranormal Activity series is a good late night
>scary movie to watch with all the lights out; but its time for
>filmmakers to conclude the series since its reaching for a
>continuation that's obviously based on the need to make more
>money...

LOL EVERY sequel is there to make more money.

This is what is called a "franchise". Franchises EXIST to make money.
Guess what else exists to make money? MOVIE STUDIOS. Go figure. That's literally their purpose, to make a product, sell it, and make money.

  

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26. "33% rotten on Rotten Tomatoes"
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/paranormal_activity_4_2012/

Based on 18 reviews, only 6 are positive and they aren't stellar.

So am I right? From the overall consensus it seems so....

Like I said earlier, the PA film franchise is now heading in the direction of SAW by overstaying its welcome and making films for profit, not substance.

Read some of the reviews, they're similar to the points I made. Making a franchise based on found footage delutes the effectiveness of the scare factor for the genre of film that has become widely popular with audiences over the last decade. PA4 appears to be nonsense and simply another unnecessary addition to a successful completed trinity of films that covered a complete story.

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27. "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. You're terrible at this."
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>Based on 18 reviews, only 6 are positive and they aren't
>stellar.

Cool story, bro.

>So am I right? From the overall consensus it seems so....

None of what you said was right.

>Like I said earlier, the PA film franchise is now heading in
>the direction of SAW by overstaying its welcome and making
>films for profit, not substance.

They've always been made for profit. They just happened to have substance. Next.

>Making a franchise based on found footage delutes the
>effectiveness of the scare factor for the genre of film that
>has become widely popular with audiences over the last decade.

No, it doesn't. Poor execution of the medium dilutes the scare factor. The mere existence of a sequel does not inherently dilute anything; it all boils down to the execution. The quality of ANY movie, sequel or not, is all about the execution. If the premise for said film is sound and properly executed, well acted, creative, etc, then it's fine. You're trying to draw a correlation between the number attached to the film and the quality of the film and it doesn't hold up. You can say the film makers ran out of gas, rushed it, phoned it in, whatever. The things that are wrong with a bad movie are wrong because they were poorly executed, not because there's an arbitrary number attached to it.

>PA4 appears to be nonsense

Cool, I'll find out for myself tomorrow.

>and simply another unnecessary
>addition to a successful completed trinity of films that
>covered a complete story.

There's no such thing as a necessary movie. They don't need to exist, not a single of them. They exist not because they are necessary, but because one has a vision and an idea, and because there's potential to benefit financially from them. That's it. There's no such thing as "unnecessary" as a criticism. It's the mother of all excuses for a lack of a more articulate and perceptive perspective. Citizen Kane was unecessary, but it's great. There's no such thing as a necessary movie.

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31. "SO YOU'RE AN EXPERIENCED FILM CRITIC?"
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If so then I'll understand that my assessment that the number of the sequel almost always coincides with the diminishing quality of each film is incorrect.

And please read what critics are saying goodness sakes before you respond, my comments are pretty much covering the same points showing that the film is just not worthy to placed in the chronology of events from the first three films.

Also look at the quality, PA was the best with PA2 being mediocre yety mostly boring and PA3 being even worse. PA4 is just following the pattern.

Additionally, I'm not even sure if you've seen the first film when it came out. The budget was only $40,000 and it was one of the best horror films only made. Originally, with intentions this film was only being shown in indie theaters with marginal return on investment by every involved in it. When you say these films were always made to generate profit it just illustrates your ignorance of the fact that the original film was made to be a memorable experience, with money not being a driving factor in its production.

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32. "You're really not thinking here. "
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>If so then I'll understand that my assessment that the number
>of the sequel almost always coincides with the diminishing
>quality of each film is incorrect.

Being an experienced film critic is immaterial. There is a definite trend of diminishing quality with sequels, but the numbers themselves are arbitrary. Meanwhile, you keep insisting that simply being a sequel is an adequate explanation as to why a movie is lower in quality than it's predecessor. A well made movie is a well made movie. Period. A poorly made movie is a poorly made movie.

>And please read what critics are saying goodness sakes before
>you respond, my comments are pretty much covering the same
>points showing that the film is just not worthy to placed in
>the chronology of events from the first three films.

Why would I do that? I'm actually an independent thinker. I will wait and see the film for myself and arrive at my conclusions then. I don't place stock in the opinions of others when forming my opinion on something.

>Also look atthe quality, PA was the best with PA2 being
>mediocre yety mostly boring and PA3 being even worse. PA4 is
>just following the pattern.

I haven't seen 4, so how would I know? And I thought the quality was excellent on all three.

>Additionally, I'm not even sure if you've seen the first film
>when it came out.

I've seen all three, and I dunno why you're even trying to argue that.

>When you say these films were always made to generate profit
>it just illustrates your ignorance of the fact that the
>original film was made to be a memorable experience, with
>money not being a driving factor in its production.

I believe I've listed two reasons for movies being made: someone has a vision and an idea, and money. If you think someone spent 40,000 just to make a movie with no intention of trying to turn a profit, you're at LEAST ten times more ignorant than you think I am.

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22. "Pretty lame trailer, but maybe the other ones were too."
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But overall I hope they don't make the lady from the first one into a central bogeyman. Even when she's snapping necks, she's just not very creepy to me. Although her standing besides the bed for hours in the first one was one of the best horror "bits" in the past decade or so.

Like others said, the opening night theater experience has been a blast all three times, so I bet we'll see this one too unless it just becomes obvious it's going to be much worse than the others.

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24. "unlike others here, I thought PA 3 was terrible (spoiler)"
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I really liked the first 2.

The third just followed the exact same formula, only without likable characters and with a groan-worthy, phoned-in Rosemary's Baby ending.

My wife and I will probably still catch 4 on opening weekend.

But if they just do the same thing all over again, that's it. I don't want to compare it to the Saw franchise, but I can see it. I hope they do something clever this time around; the schtick is getting old.

  

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25. "The difference between 2 and 3 though..."
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(in other words, why I like 3 better than 2)

... is that the scares ramped up appropriately in 3 (like they did in 1). In 2, some of the biggest scares were in the middle of the movie and they were just disjointed overall (and not all were in character with the "ghost").

I can see how you can have issues with the ending of 3, but I *loved* the fact that it provided tangible, old-timey context vs the "look it up on the internet" explanations used in the first two films. It wrapped things up very tightly (and logically). I personally don't feel the ending was "phoned in", but I certainly don't begrudge your opinion on it either.

  

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28. "as long as it advances the story in some capacity is all I care about"
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I enjoyed 1,2, and 3, that's my only requirement for this joint -it has to advance the story in some way because its pointless to do another one without doing this.
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29. "prepare to be dissapointed then. nm"
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37. "might have go see Sinister instead then...lol"
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38. "It advanced in the same way the third does. *vague spoiler*"
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In the same way that we only learn anything new about Katie and the nature of the activity in the final ten minutes of PA3, we learn some new info and potential hints about the fifth movie in the last ten minutes and post-credits scene of PA4. Nothing groundbreaking or huge, but there is a pretty surprising reveal shortly before the final frame that took me aback.

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30. "What started strongly eventually devolved into shit."
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It's better than 3, but yea those looking for the story to be advanced or delve deeper into the mythology are gonna be dissapointed as fuck. They breifly touch upon the meaning of the symbol in one scene and that's all you're gonna get other than some cool shit with seeing "Toby" in tha Xbox Kinect infared, and decent knife gag, and two cool deaths. With all that said my brother had to explain to me that Robbie is not Hunter and Hunter is Wyatt. So when did Hunter escape Katie/Toby to get adopted by a rich family? And if you care to sit through the credits to see where the series can go to next. And no you will not give two shits about the characters in this one. It was good to see Katie and her jammers again (she's in it for a good 20 minutes, stacking her chips no less)

Question *spoilers*
When the fuck did Katie/Toby amass an army of witches that look like zombies? This ending was just as fucking stupid as 3. They should've ended it with 2..

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33. "That's a problem. "
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The last one was really steeped in the mythology of it all, so to have this one go nowhere with it is disappointing, if true.

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34. "i actually liked 3 the best, although the end was some "
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Blair Witch let's just end this type mess (scratch that...I actually liked the end of Blair Witch lol...)

so i guess I'll enjoy 4?

I don't know...still going to see it regardless but 33% on RT is a little disappointing.

  

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39. "Agreed. "
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35. "Nowhere near as bad as being advertised. "
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The biggest problem here is that there is nothing to up the ante; every film is paced the exact same way, and this film took far too long between scares that didn't pay off as well as in previous films. The Kinect cam was all but wasted, the bath tub scene could have added some serious weight had it done one thing that couldn't be more obvious. Still, at this point the pace needs to quicken instead of the demon slowly making itself known. I need them to start pacing themselves more like a thriller or even an action movie, and take a much more in-your-face approach.

Further, there should be a point when someone calls the damn police when insanely weird shit happens, like at the very end when she's trying to stop a car saying she needs help.

The story DOES advance, despite what others are saying, but not enough by any stretch. At this point it's doing the Lost thing where they don't really explain much, and the story doesn't progress as much as it should because they are trying to layer more mystery around everything. This one felt like an interquel, just the movie to bridge two far more major story lines. There are major gaps that need to be filled in and it just added another major gap, which we really could do without.

One thing that really bothers me about the franchise is that Ali should pop up again, hasn't, and doesn't look like she will.

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36. "Thoroughly enjoyed it."
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http://www.examiner.com/review/paranormal-activity-4-this-time-teenagers-run-the-haunted-house

^^^ full review there

Brief thoughts:
- switching to teenagers was a brilliant move
- not to mention these might have been the most likable main characters in an installment yet
- still lots of funny clever takes on horror tropes: the ball, the cat, the "figure," the creepy woman, moving chairs, refrigerator doors not showing the cameras what's behind it, etc
- "front door open"-- awesome effect
- THE KNIFE SEQUENCE. LOVE LOVE LOVE.
- ending is derivative, but who cares, you're not watching this franchise for a deep connection to a moving story, you're watching it for the haunted house entertainment, which this one delivers yet again

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40. "Good scares, thin story, less titties, MAD logic breaks."
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I was really disappointed it. I can't say I didn't enjoy it. These movies are above and beyond everything else, an experience - but the story REALLY suffered this go round - also, the pacing was bad. The editor failed the directors on this go round.

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41. "I thoroughly agree with these two reviews"
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http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/paranormal-activity-4-audio-review


Although I would say 2 is better than 3, so I disagree with Devin on those points.
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42. "well y'all gon see Paranormal Activity 5 (Fall 2013) and"
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Christopher Landon, aka Michael Landon's son, is writing a spinoff for the SPANISH audience, which will come out I think late spring/early summer 2013, because Spanish spaeking audiences are the main folk who support the movies everytime they come out.

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43. "That's supposed to be a spinoff and have no direct tie to PA"
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At least from what I've read

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44. "RE: That's supposed to be a spinoff and have no direct tie to PA"
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>At least from what I've read

i was talking about them as two distinct things...


PA5 and the landon spinoff for spanish speaking audiences...

but i give the team behind PA credit...they're making money off these films (nearly 600 million worldwide..WTF?!) and will keep making money until they don't.

i'm not mad at all....

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50. "I've got my nitpicks but I still enjoy every one of them. "
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>but i give the team behind PA credit...they're making money
>off these films (nearly 600 million worldwide..WTF?!) and will
>keep making money until they don't.
>
>i'm not mad at all....

I mean, if you're a one trick pony, nothing wrong with getting all you can from it while you can. They'll cross a billi before it's all said and done. Hopefully the actors are getting compensated accordingly thought.

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45. "It's alluded to after the credits of PA 4 nm"
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46. "I know, I saw it, and that changes nothing. "
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It's a spinoff, not a sequel.

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47. "you misread him"
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He said they were doing sequel AND a spin-off.

You basically came in and said "That's not true, the spinoff that you're talking about is just a spin-off."

Just saying.

  

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48. "I misread Sankofa, not bwood"
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49. "Thank you"
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Never did I say it was a sequel. All I said is you can catch a hint of it after the credits.

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51. "Never said you did. I merely reiterated my point."
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52. "Shoot, I didn't stay after the credits. What happened?"
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58. "It's not that big a deal (spoiler)"
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This dude holding a camera is speaking in Spanish. Can't tell if he's in a Latino neighborhood or another country. He goes into a store this lady comes out. She says something and dude gets jumpy and leaves. My Spanish isn't good so I didn't really catch what they were saying, but my wife said that it was something like, "It's a witch!" Basically if you don't speak Spanish the scene is lame and you will feel dumb for having waited through the credits to see it.

  

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53. "Robbie and those sandals with the tube socks-best shit in the movie"
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he was slaying me with that shit
nigga had on the same clothes for a week and a half

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54. "*shrugs* I liked it."
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If you liked any of them, you'll like this, it's more of the same.

That said, sure, I'd still see them until they suck.

And that post-credits scene... Not sure what we were supposed to take away from it? Did I miss something in a previous movie?

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55. "This felt like 2 to me, 3 is still the best one"
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I loved that Katie was like "look I need more screentime" so here we are with more Katie!!!

I have no real clue what the fuck was going with Kate/hunter/toby/ whatever the fuck, but shit was enjoyable. Dog The moms death was fucking hilarious (was she on team yahmeans?) Then the bf was prett fantastic I threw my phone over my shoulder at that one. I loved that, plus the knife scene which was well done.

These folks know their wheelhouse and stay in it well.

The teenagers were pretty great.

I mean shit if we had witches at the end of 3, then it leads me to believe that those were the same witches just Rolling with katie now.

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56. "The Joost/Schulman directing duo is nice..."
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Catfish, their first 'big' movie, got me and some friends to go out and check it one night after watching the trailer one time.

And 3 is still the best one.

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57. "this movie was terrible (slight spoiler)"
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Husband: "Oh shit dear, i was just standing here and a butcher knife came out of nowhere and landed right in front of the damned laptop!!!"

Wife: "Come back to bed."

Husband: "But dear--"

Wife: "Come back to bed."

Husband: "...ok."

This was some bullshit. The other movies at least try to play it smart *a little*, but the fact that all of this messed up stuff was RECORDED, and only once right at the beginning did the teens ever think to show anyone...dumb, dumb, dumb. The rest of the time there on some "I know this sounds crazy, but you gotta believe me!" when all of it was recorded on computers...

I thought the first two movies were really good, found the third one disappointing, but this one was awful.

There were a few scenes were me and many other people in the theater were laughing. I actually said "OH COME ON!" out loud at least twice, which I normally would never do in a packed theater.

The player who compared this to the Saw movies was right on. The franchise has become formulaic, one-note, and each entry is significantly dumber than the last.

  

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59. "^^^"
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>The player who compared this to the Saw movies was right on.
>The franchise has become formulaic, one-note, and each entry
>is significantly dumber than the last.

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60. "It's about time these niggas did this"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZW2b0FzPc&feature=share&list=PL086867C1ED88C7D7

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61. "That shit was funny"
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Can't figure out if Katie is hot or not, doesn't matter those jammers are primetime.

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62. "They go through all that trouble to logically set up cameras.... (SPOILE..."
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...and then throw all that logic out the door in the final sequence
as the teenage daughter runs around in terror, filming everything
she sees. Why would she have a camera rolling while running across
the street after being tossed by a demon? Hell, why would she even
consider running to that obviously creepy, evil house instead of
finding somewhere safe to go?

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