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cos it seems like one of those tom hanks/george clooney vehicles

if he really did land that shit upside down in the movie they really had to give that away in the trailer?

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seems when watching the trailer. The crash may be at the beginning of the movie and we all see him land it upside down, and then the plot of the movie is all about the investigation.

I don't get mad about spoilers in trailers until I actually see the movie and find out that I already knew something that should have been a "revelation moment" in the film.

He says pretty early that they are going to do a roll. I can't imagine the big reveal is that he landed upside down. It'll be mostly about the investigation.

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If this was a Tom Hanks vehicle I may not be as interested.

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"naive as the dry leaves on the ground looking past the trees to the blue sky asking 'why me?'" -Blu

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..denzel might get another academy award for this one...


..and miles to go before i sleep...

Denzel's Whip is a fucking junkie and it's established in the first 5 minutes. When he did that line of coke, I lost all sympathy for that nigga. And I'm glad that nigga got his just desserts in the end. And I did find it preachy.

With all that said this is a really good film. Glad Bob came back to live action and I'm glad he hasn't missed a step. Denzel was great. I'm pretty sure this dude is gonna get a nomination for Actor. And the plane crash sequence was an intense ten minutes. Also, Kelly Reilly, which y'all niggas know from Sherlock Holmes 1 & 2 as Mrs. John Watson, kilt it also as a junkie Denzel becomes involved with.

Also, Bob was the most proactive during our Q&A, giving great answers and leaving us with stuff to marinate which is a total 180 from when he came in for Christmas Carol and that niggas was on autopilot. Denzel was high as fuck and would slyly avoid answering questions by pivoting back to Bob to answer.

All-in-all, a really good film that's overfucking hyped. Outside of technical, acting, and direction, I don't see this as a major contender in the screenplay or picture race.

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>Denzel was high as fuck and would slyly
>avoid answering questions by pivoting back to Bob to answer.

Didn't know he got down like that.

Anyhow, I've been hearing raves about Denzel's performance, which looks tailor made for awards buzz. I'm looking forward to seeing this.

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He may be crashing on film but rumor has it Denzel soars way beyond clound nine on a regular basis. Apparently his habit does not affect his looks or acting ability. I guess the herb does work for some folks,lol.

They got Cheadle in this too yeah I'm definitely in.

cause that was some real suspenseful shit.


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Nadine body is sick.
Trailers so misleading.
I didn't care after awhile.
Good acting but didn't feel sorry for dude.
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Be forewarned, as has been stated, this is not a mystery. Wikipedia got it wrong. It's more of a shaggy-dog narrative about a man who is confronted with the truth about himself and has to decide if he's going to keep going down one path, or become a man and do the right thing.

I guarantee you Zemeckis' dick got hard when he read the plane crash sequence in the script, because that effects-driven section of the film is right in his wheelhouse, and it's pulled off expertly.

The rest of the movie is not that. Depending on your cup of tea, you may find that intriguing, or annoying. "The plot" isn't really the thing, here. There's no intense mystery to try to figure out what happened on the plane. Yes, some stuff happens relating to the crash, and Denzel has to keep himself clean long enough to be prepared by Don Cheadle and Bruce Greenwood for an NTSB hearing that will determine his ultimate fate. But the main story is about this seriously flawed man and whether or not he can turn himself around, and if he does, how that turnaround affects others.

Denzel might as well sober up himself (I guess?) and get ready for another night at the Oscars. Cheadle and Greenwood were okay. I thought that Kelly Riley was good as the junkie who gets involved with Denzel, but honestly, I didn't care about her story. This movie is all about Denzel's character, and while I understand why she's there (collateral damage in the face of Whip's self-destruction), I didn't know if she was really necessary...

This is a writer's movie. There are monologues in this film. There is no interest in getting to the next plot point here. For example, there is a monologue by a cancer patient that you don't see again that is particularly effective. This is a very personal story for the writer, John Gatins, and so he wanted to say his piece about addiction and how it affects others, and kudos to him, Denzel, Zemeckis, and Paramount for making this movie in that regard.

It doesn't quite work. The length really wasn't the problem
(2:18), nor was the fact that "nothing happens." I think it just felt like Denzel's part was the most completely-written of everyone's in the film, and so his subsequent performance outshines everyone else's by miles.

That said, whenever John Goodman's on screen, the movie's tone brightens considerably. He is awesome.

I liked it, but I think I admired it a whole lot more than I loved it, and that's okay.

Also, if you've always wondered how Nadine "Catalina from My Name is Earl" Velasquez looked naked, be sure to not miss the first 3 minutes.

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It felt listless to me, like it was letting Denzel simply drift along with nothing to do other than drink and repeat his mantra. And Denzel (and Goodman, really) was acting his ass off, and he deserved a better film around him.

I'm all for experimenting with structure, or existing solely in the realm of character study, or just for the fact that an R-rated adult drama happened in the studio system. So I wanted to like it. But most beats felt straight outta Lifetime after the plane crash ended.

It'll all fall on the shoulders of "Was Denzel's performance enough to redeem the whole film for you?" Sadly, I felt if anything it was holding him back.

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The movie is all down hill after the plane crash. The only scene I enjoyed after the plane crash was Denzel, Cheadle, and Goodman in the hotel room. The soundtrack was cliche and what was the purpose of the white girl?

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Someone asked him about his method and this is what he said:

"I don't do anything. It's all Bob. Bob sets the table and I eat it up. Bob sets the table and I eat it up. I don't think you can hear me cause you're kinda far away. Bob sets the table and I eat it up."

Mind you Howie, who asked the question was only 3 rows away from him and by this point my nigga had his arm around John Goodman and was half standing and half sitting down. By the way he would also make a smart joke every once in a while and die laughing after he said it.

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but since I found his character (and most around him) extremely unlikeable it was hard for me to fully get into the movie. The ending somewhat made up for it but even that felt a little preachy and not completely organic.
Kelly Reilly's character was fully expendable, although she did serve a purpose in what I thought was the movie's best scene when James Badge Dale turned up as the cancer patient in the stairs. He just had a few minutes of screen time but I thought it was some of the best acting I saw this year.
The whole sequence leading up to the crash was really thrilling, it reminded me to a certain extent of the thrill of a similar scene in United 93, although not quite as raw.

So yeah, a decent movie overall but I don't feel like it will stay with me too long.

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Was I the only one noticing Denzel making Tracy Morgan faces when he was playing drunk.

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I see articles about how the hollywood star driven movie is dead....or how Will Smith and Tom Cruise are/were the only big box office stars....but Denzel STAYS opening modestly budgetted movies to 20 million and more....for like twelve years now....Paramount only opened flight in 1800 theaters and its still gonna do 23 mill +...imagine if it got the normal 2500 opening that a normal movie does...hes one of the only actors thats ACTUALLY worth the 20 mill payacheck he gets for starring in a movie...cause he guarentees the film will make at the very least 60-70 mill...hes getting older and his box office numbers seem to be actually getting better....shit is crazy

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Like, really, really good. A bad actor couldn't have played this role, a good actor would have over-played it, but only a great actor like him would nail it like this. God damn, man, his eyes were incredible. They told the whole story.

The religious overtones were bordering on becoming a bit too overbearing though. There must have been 50 shots of crosses and crucifixes. His farm house had paintings of praying hands and the last supper. Common, everyday phrases like "god help me," and "act of god" here are literally referring to god. (And seeing Forrest Gump on HBO over the weekend reminded me how religious that movie was - Is Zemeckis a born-again Christian or something?) I mean, shots like Denzel and Cheadle (who was also really good) standing there with the church with no steeple in the background the whole time were really on-the-nose.

(Not as on-the-nose as the music, which seems to be a major complaint from some people, but that shit didn't bother me all that much. It was really bad in the first 15 minutes, where it was a constant stream of pop songs narrating the movie, but it became a lot less invasive after that.)

The scene on the flight of stairs symbolized Denzel's moral dilemma in a way (would he continue on a downward spiral to hell, or climb out of the abyss and bring himself closer to god), and I can't image that that the title of movie wasn't a reference to that scene in some way.

I did think the ending could have been better though. Felt a bit too preachy and forced to me. Something more open-ended could have preserved the moral paradox and let you make your own evaluations, but again, Zemeckis seemed so intent on driving home the notion that finding god is the path to redemption that he pretty much had to end it that way. It was no accident that Whitaker muttered "god help me" before his testimony.

Whatever. Denzel engaged the hell out of me, and I was moved by his brave performance. So for that, I came away pleased.

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>The religious overtones were bordering on becoming a bit too
>overbearing though. There must have been 50 shots of crosses
>and crucifixes. His farm house had paintings of praying hands
>and the last supper. Common, everyday phrases like "god help
>me," and "act of god" here are literally referring to god.
>(And seeing Forrest Gump on HBO over the weekend reminded me
>how religious that movie was - Is Zemeckis a born-again
>Christian or something?) I mean, shots like Denzel and
>Cheadle (who was also really good) standing there with the
>church with no steeple in the background the whole time were
>really on-the-nose.

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If you're going to make this a movie full of Christian symbolism, you should be able to identify why you're using it. Denzel is an atheist at the beginning... so God helps him sober up? They don't specify. Denzel finds God through the sobriety which he finds on his own? They don't specify. There's not even a clear religious moment during his "breakthrough" or during his epilogue, really. Unless Denzel mentions finding Christ in the jail, but by that point my eyes had rolled so hard that maybe I missed it. There just seemed to be no clear reason for all of the religious symbolism other than "religious symbolism is deep, man." Which irritated me.

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>If you're going to make this a movie full of Christian
>symbolism, you should be able to identify why you're using it.
>Denzel is an atheist at the beginning... so God helps him
>sober up? They don't specify. Denzel finds God through the
>sobriety which he finds on his own? They don't specify.
>There's not even a clear religious moment during his
>"breakthrough" or during his epilogue, really. Unless Denzel
>mentions finding Christ in the jail, but by that point my eyes
>had rolled so hard that maybe I missed it. There just seemed
>to be no clear reason for all of the religious symbolism other
>than "religious symbolism is deep, man." Which irritated me.

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Well, I didn't necessarily look at it like it was there for no reason. You mentioned that "Denzel finds God through sobriety," but, if anything, I think the case Zemeckis is trying to make is the opposite: he finds sobriety through God.

I mean, in Forrest Gump, Lt. Dan was a miserable alcoholic fuck up who battled with with God, finally made peace with him, and lived happily ever after that. Which is basically exactly what's happening here.

I just feel like it goes beyond just using the imagery for no reason. I get the sense that Zemeckis is trying use the movie screen as his pulpit to sermonize about the healing powers of God. I'm not a religious person, so normally this wouldn't appeal to me at all, but I just found Denzel so compelling that he (and, in turn, the movie - since he IS the movie) resonated with me.

As preachy as the ending was, throughout the movie they didn't pull a lot of punches in portraying the powerful and destructive force of alcoholism. I thought the first argument he had with his son was heartbreaking, and an acting tour de force (including his interaction with the reporters outside).

Not a truly great movie, but Denzel definitely deserves accolades for this performance.

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... and then in the deposition he stops lying... but he doesn't have any moments with God before then... I just wonder what it all added up to. He finds sobriety certainly through his own guilt and his inability to sully Katrina's reputation forever after death... but is God unquestionably in that equation?

Did he say in his speech in jail God helped him sober up? If the only reference to God in his sober epilogue is a cross in his jail cell or something, that's a mighty subtle indication of religion's impact on Whip's decision considering how heavyhanded most of the rest of the film was. Zemeckis was *extremely* clear about Denzel not believing in God's power over humanity by having him state it aloud several times... I just didn't see the payoff. And I was waiting for the "God saves" message to bash me over the head, but I feel like it never came... at least not with the same force that the set-up came, y'know?

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I took the "religious slant" as the pilot saw the signs that God was trying to save him during this process and he ignored them. He could have change when he met the red head chick, he could have changed when he met the other pilot and his wife but he didn't. He coud have changed at any point. It took him to get to his lowest point, drinking up all the alcohol in that room and having his lover take the blame to cover his ass.

I thought, he thought he was a hero during the whole flight mishap and shouldn't have been blamed. Then the airline execs had to protect his ass to save them from lawsuits and such, so this bolstered that "I didn't do anything wrong mentality".

>I took the "religious slant" as the pilot saw the signs that
>God was trying to save him during this process and he ignored
>them. He could have change when he met the red head chick, he
>could have changed when he met the other pilot and his wife
>but he didn't. He coud have changed at any point. It took him
>to get to his lowest point, drinking up all the alcohol in
>that room and having his lover take the blame to cover his
>ass.

My issue is with the film's resolution to this line of symbolism. So if he ignores God the whole time... does finding God help him reach his moment of clarity? Does he stop ignoring the signs in that deposition? If he ignores the signs the whole time but reaches his own conclusion based on personal guilt, not the guilt instilled in one by fear of divine retribution, then why have all the religious stuff in the first place unless it's merely to give the illusion of depth?

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..far too often you have protagonist of a story finds redemption through some form of religious revelation.

its easily one of the weakest plot devices.

instead, this film seems hell bent on showin' that not even god/religion can save this man. the only person that can save him is... him.

he had to want it. he had to stop denyin' that he was always in control. he needed to recognize the damage he was causin' to his life and the people around him.

i think they used the religious remarks to underline this (that and a bit of wry humor).

when you see the confrontation with his son, and the anger/frustration shown in that scene. yes, he's still tormented by his own devices, but he can't hide behind his heroics anymore.

by the time he's facin' the ntsb hearing, there's nothin' left but the facts. as much as he knew he wasn't responsible for that plane crash, he also knew katerina wasn't either.




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Great movie!

The only time the religious parts didn't work was in the hospital with the co-pilot and his wife, her "praise jesus" had me laughing.

I got nervous when the White lady showed up because I thought once again Hollywood wasn't going to let a brother have his own movie, but she went away and then I was happy. Other than that I did like her though, just made her a little too hokey.

John Goodman.

People saying they didn't like Whip because he was a junkie is just odd to me. You don't like the character because he has dependency issues? And yes, the nigga chose to fly a plane drunk and I can understand citing that as a reason, but he was never really shown being a dick to anybody or doing something dirty to get high.

Don Cheadle's character is the worst, he was all ready to blame everything on a dead woman, now that's low.

The cancer patient in the hallway, that dude had one scene and almost stole the show.

and the son, the ex-wife was cliche ex-wife stuff, but I wanted to punch the son in the face.

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Denzel's acting was awesome in this movie. He showed a type of vulnerability in this movie that i've never seen him display. Awesome job by Denzel.

The movie was very good. Very involving and engaging. All performances were solid. Cheadle was great as well. Goodman delivered. Kelly Reilly was good.

The movie showed that there is truly power in vulnerability. It showed real people. Flaws and failures, and realistic adjustments and triumphs.

I totally recommend this movie.

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no one could've landed that plane like i did (c) whip

beyond the heroics, brash arrogance, or even the charm of this film lies an underlying theme more powerful than the trailer implies. while the movie opens with quite a few dynamic visuals (thank you, nadine velazquez), it eventually unfolds to show the life of a man in complete denial.

the media calls him a hero, but the investigation about the crash reveals quite a few troubling details about whip. the bottom line is that the plane was damaged and ultimately suffered a catastrophic failure, much like the life of its pilot.

solid performances from all involved. it would've been nice to see don & denzel really go toe-to-toe, but the film still delivers.

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I'm surprised at how many people like/love this on here and in the real world. Shit, many people at the Alight in Sherman Oaks clapped at the end. I mean not surprised really, but it's not a good movie

The pointless bible thumping, the two hour vodka advertisements, the "disappearance" of Nicole's character during the second half of the film, the tragic under use of Goodman, the Cringe worthy "I love you son" scene, the last two scenes which tonally and thematically contradict the narrative, and NOT letting Denzel shag sexy eye succulent titty meat red head weird face all made for a bad film

Denzel held it the fuck down!!! But he was like rocket scientist lost in space. I want to commend the film for not giving the audience what they want: unlikable character, only partially redeemed at the end, but the visual spectacle was so chaotic while the plot was so monotonous I could not enjoy it.

The first 35min of the film were excellent. Nadine's body is phenomenal, Denzel and Goodman deserve noms, but other than that 1.5, maybe 2 outta 5

definitely a little heavy-handed with the moralizing, Denzel was great, Goodman's scenes & the plane crash scene were far superior to anything else in the flick, basically was about the same on it as Longo but liked it maybe *slightly* more than he did for the reasons stated above.

Another flick where Denzel's performance outweighs the overall film like the previous Oscar turn in Training Day but I think I liked Training Day better because although that movie had some silly aspects I was never actually bored or felt like it was preaching to me.

They coulda wrapped it up in 90 minutes & been better off. I shoulda saw Argo instead.

But he might've stole the entire flick from Denzel, Cheadle, Goodman & them so I understand

I think a flick like this might resonate more with those that have gone through similar co-dependency issues

>But he might've stole the entire flick from Denzel, Cheadle,
>Goodman & them so I understand
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>I think a flick like this might resonate more with those that
>have gone through similar co-dependency issues



Agreed.

Besides the whole take-off/flight/crash sequence, the scene in the stairwell was my favorite.. Specifically because of HIS performance. It really elevated the spiritual/philosophical aspect of the film to me.

I also liked Denzel's performance when he is sitting in the farmhouse living room drunk as fuck.

on that too good
too realistic a portrayal of an addict in denial
mad folks walk around like this wasnt comfortable seeing it played out type deal
Denzel did too good a job
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agree with most of the comments.

I really liked the scene where he confronted the flight attendant in the church (Tamara Tunie)...the way she played that scene I thought she nailed it. She said so much with just her eyes...

Also, Denzel's swag at the end when he was getting on the elevator was hilarious...i was cracking up.

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Very good premise that could have been executed better.Very uneven film imo. Did not like the ending at all, i thought it should have been more ambiguous. Flight is a very entertaining movie(i was not bothered by it's length at all) and better than most of the stuff Denzel has made in the last 7 to 10 years. But i doubt it will seem as good on repeat viewing.

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Flight is a somehat preachy film so i doubt that i would find it more entertaining the second time around.
Imo Whitaker should have lied at the hearing,lol, and not have gone to prison. He made a statement about finally being free while in prison. WTF? I absolutely object to that. He felt guilty and felt he deserved punishment(this idea stems from religion). He also attended that 12steps program with that trashy white woman. 12 steps type programs are churches.

The movie is full of religious messages i was surprized so many people here liked it.

I did like Flight i did not love it.

But i doubt i will watch this movie again.
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>Flight is a somehat preachy film so i doubt that i would
>find it more entertaining the second time around.
>Imo Whitaker should have lied at the hearing,lol, and not
>have gone to prison. He made a statement about finally being
>free while in prison. WTF?

Free from having to keep lying to cover up his addiction perhaps?

I absolutely object to that. He
>felt guilty and felt he deserved punishment(this idea stems
>from religion). He also attended that 12steps program with
>that trashy white woman. 12 steps type programs are churches.

12 step program or AA meeting? He left the 1st meeting he attended with her before it even finished if I recall correctly

>The movie is full of religious messages i was surprized so
>many people here liked it.

I miss the good old days when religion didn't have such a negative connotation

It's really similar to 'castaway'. I think it'll have the staying power too.

Denzel is one of those talents.....everyone takes him for granted now. Thought he really stretched out in this one....him fucking up but making good. And the making good serves as the motive to keep fucking up. Denzel hits it on the head.

The whole movie built around the wonderful plot device....he saved the plane despite being fucked up. A built-in rationale for the addict's mind.

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everyone did a great job IMHO....i really thought he was gonna say "fuck it" and blame ole girl, but in his own way, he loved her too much for that....

he was a horrible human being til he fessed up, and Goodman was hilarious in all his scenes...

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