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Warner Bros. Hires Screenwriter For 'Justice League' Movie
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Based on the monster success of Disney and Marvel Studios’ The Avengers, it should come as no surprise that DC Comics and Warner Bros. have decided to up their game and begin working on combining their own franchises; focusing first on Justice League. According to a report from Variety, Warner Bros. has hired Gangster Squad writer Will Beall to pen a new script for a Justice League movie. In fact, it’s been revealed that the studio hired Beall sometime last year while Marvel was putting the pieces together for Joss Whedon’s The Avengers.

DC and Warner Bros’ success with their superhero franchises seem to pale in comparison when one looks at the track records for Marvel’s films, particularly when you look at the huge success Marvel pulled off by bridging their films together. Outside of Superman, Batman and a somewhat disappointing Green Lantern film, the studio has yet to bridge together their properties for, what could be, a blockbuster to rival The Avengers. The possibility of a real contender may become a reality soon with the news that Michael Goldenberg is currently working on a Wonder Woman script while Marc Guggenheim and Michael Green are already working on s screenplay for The Flash.

Ironically, all of these writers were the ones responsible for the Green Lantern film, so we’ve got out fingers crossed that they’ve learned from their past mistakes and can do these two properties justice.

IF it does, it'll sit on the shelf.
IF it gets released, it'll suck.

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after all the stop and starts, development hell, dozens of screenwriters being fired, hired and rehired to write the script, casting, cast salaries, etc.

it wont get made.

or if it does, IT.WILL.SUCK

I mean, damn, Batman? Um, so won't a quarter of the budget to go Christian Bale's salary + a percentage of the gross?! LOL!

this won't get made. oh well. Marvel is *defecating* ALL OVER DC.

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So it won't be Bale.

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>So it won't be Bale.


SHUT THE FUCK UP!

for real? seriously...*who* would play him then?

or would they go the Azrael route where he takes over for him?

and what about the *potential spoiler* of, allegedly, Ellen Page doing a cameo as Commissioner Gordon's daughter *precursor to Batgirl*?

man...nothing against Michael Keaton (but TOTALLY AGAINST Val Kilmer and nippletastic George Clooney), but Christian Bale kinda *owns* the role...but he would be too old to play him though (Bale would be in his mid 40s at that time).....

but i guess we won't know until 2020 when it comes out! *SICE FOOLS! SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!*

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I hope Ironman 3 is the last of the great ones.

please no more superhero movies. lets get creative hollywood.

If audiences stopped buying tickets en masse to sequels, Hollywood would stop making them. But that won't happen and hasn't ever happened-- audiences love and have loved and will love familiar stories, remakes, reboots, prequels, and sequels forever. So it'll carry on.

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>I hope Ironman 3 is the last of the great ones.
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>please no more superhero movies. lets get creative hollywood.

How bout you just focus on watching shit that *you* like instead of hoping shit a LOT of other people like doesn't happen?

In fact, you don't have to be bothered by these flicks right now, because you can just watch a bunch of other shit that's come out that's been pretty good, because there's actually a lot of good movies out there that aren't superhero flicks.

It's highly irritating when people who don't like something sit there and talk about how that thing (whatever it is) should stop being made, as though they have no choice but to watch/listen/eat/otherwise consume it. Just fucking avoid the shit you don't like.

...when done right of course. Eventually they'll slow down some as we tire of the major heroes, but there's still a wealth of material to work with. Alot of people, including myself, love them. As long as they continue to focus on the quality as well as the action, I'm all for them.

Most superhero movies are excellent

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DC Animated does the big screen movie.

That's it.

Bring in Conroy
Bring in Daly (or Newbern)
Bring in Eisenberg

Bringthe whole damn gang back together. Then you can do a JL movie proper.

Doing a live action JL movie would be nearly impossible as none of the characters have been established in a related world (not to mention half the characted haven't even hit the big screen in a live action movie to begin with). Whereas with the animates series, that link has already been set, fleshed out, and bounds with really great character and story arcs.

Any other way would be complete, utter, bankrupting suicide.

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feature UNLESS the film was CGI and in 3D...

...but then, who to hire as the production studio?)

Not because of talent attached or whatever, but just because the Justice League's powers seem less easily translatable to live-action cinema. How will Flash not be totally lame? I'm extremely interested (and hopeful) in seeing how the writers make that work. How will Green Lantern's ring power and space adventures not be totally lame? Could anyone take a Martian Manhunter or Wonder Woman depiction in live action seriously?

I realize since I was so skeptical about Asgard working and I thought it worked quite well that in the right hands anything could work, I suppose... but JLA just looks very cartoony in my brain when I try to envision it in live action. Lots of formidable challenges in the transition between mediums-- harder challenges than a robosuit or a cowl and shield.

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I think this is a bad idea.

The secret though is having comic people involved. These recent Marvel films work as well as they do largely because Marvel has a hand in making it. Not just that, but the success of the AVENGERS has a lot to do with Joss writing and directing that film. He's done work in comics. He respects the medium. He wasn't trying to "deconstruct it" or make it "real world."

As was already stated, DC doesn't work these properties in film, WB does. If the Brothers Warner were smart, they'd immediately get Dan DiDio on the phone and start mining the DC staff for consultants. A JLA movie will have three of biggest Superheroes of all time. It's already got that going for it. It doesn't have to sell too much stupid shit. I agree about Green Lantern looking dumb live action, bu I think the rest of the characters will totally work. You worry about the Flash, where as, I feel like the Flash could be this movie's Hulk, in that he's the surprise best character that shouldn't work.

I honestly think the only thing that could fuck this up is if they think they're better than the medium and start trying to change shit or make it "real."

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They need deeper involvement - co-writing if they can take hiatuses from some of their books for a bit to make it happen, or just hiring writers who understand comic books AND movies rather than one or the other.

Also, hiring directors & producers who understand comic books couldn't hurt. A lot of this stuff (SUPERMAN is a key example) just seems to be being overthought.

and it's vice versa for Marvel...Marvel best animated piece pales in comparison to DC's, but other than bats, DC is losing in live action....

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Warner Bros. Animation has always been a strong studio since the early 1990s.

The people at Warner Bros. Pictures do not understand the DC characters beyond Batman.

I think the Warner/DC teamup did the DC Universe well, for the most part (though I'm not sold on The Batman or Brave And The Bold). Either Warner got the characters, or they got out of the way of the guys that did (Timm, DIni, et al)

Either way, I think the DC Universe was much more fully realized in cartoon form than could be possible in live action. I mean, any time you can release a new character in the cartoon that becomes part of the fabric of the character (ie, Harley Quinn), you have to be doing something right...

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It's a separate division from Warner Bros. Animation with a different chain of command (WBA is part of the TV division).

The folks at Animation understood DC characters because they let Bruce Timm & Paul Dini establish the DC Animated Universe from the ground up when the animation studio was relatively young. Many of the folks who worked under or with those folks are in management at Animation now.

Not so with Warner Bros. Pictures. They know Harry Potter and The Matrix. They know "regular" live action films. They don't even understand their corporate icons, the Looney Tunes, let alone the DC characters. These are the folks who made "Wild Wild West" and "Yogi Bear", for Christ's sake.

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i get what you're saying, but the live action divison needs to get more consulting from either the animated divison or DC comics writers....Marvel has a more in house approach IMO, but DC could benefit from making sure that WB pictures isn't just doing whatever they can think up when making a product that HAS a built in fanbase and lore....what they're doing for the live action comics isn't really working....how many flops does it take to figure out that it isn't bats it hasn't sold??

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They put the lady in charge of the direct to video division at WB in charge of their new "DC Entertainment", created in the wake of Disney's purchase of Marvel. That says a lot.

A lot of it can't be anything more than corporate hubris (i.e. "Warner Bros. turns out all these other films each year, HOW DARE YOU imply we can't figure how to make these comic book movies work!") even in the face of failure.

If they appoint someone who actually works at DC to lead DC Entertainment instead of one of "their" people, maybe we'll see the change we seek.

Had a script, a cast, and a director if I'm not mistaken.

I forget who was playing who but I remember Common was cast as John Stewart.

Regardless, there's no way it can be as successful (critically or financially) as Avengers, but there's also no way they weren't going to try.


What I don't understand is why they're starting a script now when they seem to be in no way set up for this type of movie. I would think Batman would have to be rebooted first and Flash and WW at least introduced, and they're years away from all of that. So what good is a script for JL right now?

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DC Comics and Warner Bros. are following in the footsteps of Marvel Studios’ The Avengers by resurrecting their defunct Justice League movie. The recent announcement that writer Will Beall has been working on the Justice League script for some time was exciting enough for comic fans; today, we actually have first word on what Beall’s script is like.

Of course, you may want to take or leave the forthcoming impression of Beall’s work, given the source.

Comic book scribe Mark Millar (Wanted, Kick-Ass) is talking up Beall’s Justice League script, which he apparently knows about through a guy who knows the guy (hence the ‘take it or leave it warning). This is what Millar posted on his own forum:

"A pal of mine is good friends with the new Justice League screenwriter and said his take on the team is incredible. Very real-world and not at all what you might expect. WB has a chequered history with their superhero characters. They’re great with their boy wizards, but less consistent with their DC stable. But my chum said that this could be a thing of beauty and has been in the works for a little while now, not just an Avengers knock-off. Best of luck to them. The tidbits I heard sound quite dark and mature, which isn’t what I expected. But word on Gangster Squad is great too, so I feel this is in really good hands."

If you’ve been reading any of our coverage of Kick-Ass 2 (the upcoming sequel to Millar’s hit comic-turned-film), then you already know how we feel about the guy. SPOILER ALERT: He tends to talk a lot of things up – only some of those things turn out to be accurate. Hearing about something ‘from somebody who knows somebody’ is already pushing us into ‘Whisper Down the Lane’ territory; but, from a geek perspective, there’s good incentive to believe in Millar’s assessment.

While The Avengers has been overwhelmingly well-received by geeks and non-geeks alike, I think that true comic book aficionados would expect something different from Justice League. Somehow, I just don’t see Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman sitting around joking like Tony Stark, Captain America and Thor. That’s all to say: The tone of a Justice League movie should probably be different and (gasp!) more serious. After all, the League members are basically like the Gods of Olympus, with a cynical human (Batman) constantly worrying about their combined power. Way different than a bunch of sci-fi-themed misfits trying to function together.

What kind of tone and style do you think a Justice League movie should have? Light and fun like Avengers; dark and realistic like the Nolan Batman films? Or something else entirely?

source: http://screenrant.com/kickass-creator-mark-millar-talks-justice-league-script-kofi-177661/

sounds like a steaming pile of ish

I like my comic movies serious.

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That's how much faith I have in this film. I wish DC and WB would just stop it. Locked down the animated market but stay away from live action please.

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Honestly, his presence is the only thing that makes the idea of the Justice League interesting to me.

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Let's assume we don't get full movies for characters other than Superman and Batman (and the previous Green Lantern film) before they crank out a JLA film.

What characters do you want to see? How many do you think need full films BEFORE the JLA film, and which ones can be introduced as part of the blockbuster gathering?

-I think Wonder Woman would need a flick first to really click, but she's obviously going to be in it.
-If there's a new Batman, I wonder if we need a flick first, otherwise there's no way people would accept him over Bale.
-Flash and Aquaman probably don't need a flick first-- JLA appearance first then spinoff flicks would be doable.
-Not sure I'd include Martian Manhunter off the bat. Sequel?
-I've always kinda liked Green Arrow... but my inclination is no. I could be sold on him.
-People have always tossed around the idea of Plastic Man being involved... um, no.
-Unless they roll with John Stewart, a black hero would be nice... Black Lightning?

-What villain do you roll with off the bat? Do you start with someone established like Lex teaming up with some other known commodity? Or do you go Darkseid from the jump and swing for the fences?

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The big 3 (Supes, Bats, WW) plus Flash (Wally West), Green Lantern (John Stewart), and the Martian Manhunter. No Aquaman.

The villain has to be Darkseid, to warrant all of these demigods & talented humans to come together to save humanity as...the Justice League.

This already feels like a cheap imitation (even though it's been in the pipeline forever), and the average non-comic person is just gonna see Darkseid as Gobot Thanos.

Spin Zod and nem off from the Man of Steel movie or something.

A JL movie is gonna have a huge perception problem to overcome. The more different it is fron Avengers, the better.

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>Let's assume we don't get full movies for characters other
>than Superman and Batman (and the previous Green Lantern film)
>before they crank out a JLA film.
I don't think it has a chance UNLESS there are full movies

>What characters do you want to see? How many do you think need
>full films BEFORE the JLA film, and which ones can be
>introduced as part of the blockbuster gathering?
I don't think it CAN work without some independent full flicks. Anticipation has to be built for it. As dope as Avengers one, widespread anticipation wouldn't be for shit without Marvel having given intro movies to the big four. Same needs to be done for this. Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman. AT LEAST.

>-I think Wonder Woman would need a flick first to really
>click, but she's obviously going to be in it.
She does, for some reason, I think she's like THE most important one. A woman hasn't shared top billing in a super hero format, in terms of power as well as story development. They gotta get it right with her. She's an iconic figure in American pop culture so if they rock the shit right, it can really set them up nicely.

>-If there's a new Batman, I wonder if we need a flick first,
>otherwise there's no way people would accept him over Bale.
HAVE to be. I think it needs to show him developing his technology on a much higher level too, so that by the time of the JL flick, it's a more natural progression and more equal footing between him and the super-beings. Right now, Bale's Batman isn't even close. Less "gritty realism", more comic book "enhanced ridiculous gadgetry and machinery"

>-Flash and Aquaman probably don't need a flick first-- JLA
>appearance first then spinoff flicks would be doable.
Agreed. Although I don't know if Aquaman needs a solo flick. He's fucking underwater, that's his main shit. Flash would be a little more suitable for it.

>-Not sure I'd include Martian Manhunter off the bat. Sequel?
hmmmm....I think he could be intro'ed but don't think he could ever carry a stand alone flick.

>-I've always kinda liked Green Arrow... but my inclination is
>no. I could be sold on him.
He'd unfortunately be a hawkeye doppelganger without enough distance and distinction

>-People have always tossed around the idea of Plastic Man
>being involved... um, no.
um double fuck that shit

>-Unless they roll with John Stewart, a black hero would be
>nice... Black Lightning?


>-What villain do you roll with off the bat? Do you start with
>someone established like Lex teaming up with some other known
>commodity? Or do you go Darkseid from the jump and swing for
>the fences?
I would definitely bring out LOD, led by Lex. They have plenty of good ones to pick from. Darkseid needs to wait until they get more team members because he's just too fucking powerful.

Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Green Lantern (Hal)
The Flash (Barry)
Martian Manhunter

you can't get crazy with the lineup in a movie like this
a CGI Martian Manhunter would be incredible onscreen, shapeshifting and Martian visioning niggas thru walls and shit?
cmon now
going the super-realistic route will sink this film QUICK

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Geoff Johns has done a lot of work on them recently, but I really think replacing one or the other with their alternate would bring more personality to the piece.

Push coming to shove, I might keep Hal Jordan and bring in Wally West instead of Barry Allen.

he doesn't have to have an extreme personality like everyone else on the JL, he's the perfect balance between them all and that makes him interesting
neither Kyle nor Wally belong in the role of League founders

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Supes, Batman, WW, Green Lantern and Flash.

Not sure how credible this is.

http://latino-review.com/2013/01/24/exclusive-meet-final-5-members-justice-league-final-cut/

I'd like to see Martian Manhunter or Green Arrow in there, but maybe that's best left for a sequel. I do hope they take the time and establish some of the "lesser" characters so they can be used in future DC movies.

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