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ZooTown74
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"Savages (Stone, 2012)"


  

          

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Was Tony Scott busy?
Apr 05th 2012
1
Wow. Just realized that was Kick-Ass
Apr 05th 2012
3
http://i.imgur.com/oeqTY.gif
Apr 05th 2012
2
did Tony Scott do an invasion of the body snatchers on Stone?
Apr 06th 2012
4
The trailer reminded me of "U-Turn"
Jul 05th 2012
6
Very dissapointing
Jul 05th 2012
5
i waanted to see it, but then
Jul 06th 2012
7
Question/Possible SPOILER
Jul 07th 2012
9
RE: Question/Possible SPOILER
Jul 07th 2012
10
      Yes and no?
Jul 07th 2012
13
           Yes and no *spoilers*
Jul 08th 2012
15
You just flat weren't paying attention and ignoring context.
Jul 15th 2012
23
Is Oliver Stone back on his old style (JFK,NBK etc)?
Jul 06th 2012
8
Of course they sent the black guy.
Jul 07th 2012
11
this whole time I thought Taylor Kitsch was Paul Walker
Jul 07th 2012
12
Benico Del Toro stole the show
Jul 08th 2012
14
Benico Del Toro should receive 100% of the profits from the movie.
Jul 12th 2012
21
Terrible storytelling. No change. Little action.
Jul 08th 2012
16
Blake Lively's character was annoying as fuck...
Jul 08th 2012
17
Preach!
Jul 12th 2012
22
RE: Savages (Stone, 2012)
Jul 09th 2012
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wtf, this was the pits
Jul 09th 2012
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HORIBBLE. Stone should get stoned (biblicaly speaking).
Jul 12th 2012
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I'm sorry, y'all, but I liked this flick
Jul 15th 2012
24
You should check out Kings Of Cool, the prequel
Jul 15th 2012
25
Yeah, I definitely agree with this.
Jul 16th 2012
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I laughed when Hayek's big trailer line wasn't the same
Jul 16th 2012
27
im sorry..."Hand Job Johnny"? lolll
May 06th 2013
32
Blakes voiceover was awful to me
Mar 27th 2013
28
who thought making this movie was a good idea?
May 05th 2013
29
horrible--
May 05th 2013
30
Benecio & AJ kept my interest. Blake & Taylor were terrible.
May 06th 2013
31

SoulHonky
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1. "Was Tony Scott busy?"
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Looks like Ollie's got bills to pay/good will to build so he can make his next message movie.

Still, it doesn't look terrible. Could be a nice actioner like Man on Fire or something like that.

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SoulHonky
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3. "Wow. Just realized that was Kick-Ass"
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Kid's done some growing up.

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2. "http://i.imgur.com/oeqTY.gif"
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Thu Apr-05-12 03:27 PM by bignick

  

          

"Seven of my men are dead!"

  

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4. "did Tony Scott do an invasion of the body snatchers on Stone?"
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looks nice

also seems as though i'll be laughing AT IT

and please tell me i'm not the only one who laughed when Salma Hayek rolled thru on the trailer

  

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6. "The trailer reminded me of "U-Turn""
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And Stone also wrote Scarface so he knows how to make that cheese.

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5. "Very dissapointing"
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The way they wrapped thing up was stupid and I greatly preferred the false ending to this.

What started off very strongly quickly dissolved into trash. Also, the whole kidnapping didn't make sense in the grand scheme of things if the boys practically handed over their business to the cartel on a silver platter. Why not just kill them and not pay them?

Also I wanted *SPOILER* Benico Del Toro to die. He was a scumbag rapist and for him to get away was shitty. *END SPOILER*

Also, Aaron Johnson's character got on my nerves. After a while you gotta stop being a bitch and man up and handle business. Seriously, I was like stop being Bono and grab a gat. Violence comes with drug dealing...

And the last part of the voice over where O goes "I don't know if 3 people can truly love each other" and I was like you that line destroyed the whole purpose of this movie. It was supposed to show just how far these 3 are willing to go for each other and how devoted they are. Fuck this shit.

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7. "i waanted to see it, but then"
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i read ebert's review and he touched on a few things you mentioned and i heard similar things from someone else, so i'll just save my money and time and catch it on a sick day when it hits netflix or hbo.

  

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9. "Question/Possible SPOILER"
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so did Blake's character die in the end or what?

I'm *real* on the fence about this one...the movie has actors in it that I love (Hayek, del Toro and Travolta) but the movie is featuring John Carter and I just can't see him act in a movie. I just can't...

Lively and Johnston are fine..but Kitsch...#FAIL

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10. "RE: Question/Possible SPOILER"
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Yes and no.

It's a rental at best.

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13. "Yes and no?"
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did she get popped or not?

because the narration in the trailer is a #fail to me...

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15. "Yes and no *spoilers*"
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No. They all live. In the false ending they all died. The false ending is 10x better cause the real ending was humorous and abrupt. Fuck this movie.

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23. "You just flat weren't paying attention and ignoring context. "
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>And the last part of the voice over where O goes "I don't know
>if 3 people can truly love each other" and I was like you that
>line destroyed the whole purpose of this movie. It was
>supposed to show just how far these 3 are willing to go for
>each other and how devoted they are. Fuck this shit.

The line didn't destroy anything. It gave us perspective on their situation. Elena told her they obviously didn't love her as much as they loved each other. O said "I don't know of three people can truly love each other EQUALLY". Equally being vital to interpreting this statement. Like, without that word it takes on different context entirely.

She's basically accepting the bond Ben and Chon have as being greater than what either of them has for her.... but this is after what we just saw, which was Ben and Chon doing to extremes to save her. Clearly, they love her a great deal.... just not as much as they love each other. O accepted that. It can be argued that the bond the two have is what allowed them to go through all that together to save her.

  

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8. "Is Oliver Stone back on his old style (JFK,NBK etc)?"
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The black & white - flashback within a scene - crazy camera stuff. I really enjoyed that and he hasn't done it so much since Any Given Sunday..

  

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11. "Of course they sent the black guy."
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I was laughing when they sent the one black dude to go as protection for the obviously about to be kidnapped Lively.

The movie was average at best but good lord the narration was unnecessary especially since most of it was to set up a relationship that had no tension and characters who were basic archetypes.

And while Johnson and Kitsch were good enough, Benicio (not surprisingly) stole the show. I couldn't help but wonder what he did to not get lead roles or if he just doesn't want them. He made Demian Bechir look like a day player.

And good to see the evil dude from The Ropes getting a role.

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12. "this whole time I thought Taylor Kitsch was Paul Walker"
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smh

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14. "Benico Del Toro stole the show"
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Benico Del Toro acting is worth the rental price, if you can catch this for cheap during the day, do it beyond that wait for redbox.

That voice over was the mostly pointless, it didn't bring anything to the table at all and kind of kills the ending. the false ending made more sense, the real ending felt like the end to a different version of this film, a more humorous version.

It's a wrap for Taylor Kitsch moviewise, John Carter, Battleship, and now this. get him back to tv fast

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21. "Benico Del Toro should receive 100% of the profits from the movie."
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Thu Jul-12-12 06:56 PM by Yadgyu

  

          

The other actors should be decapitated. Selma Hayek included.

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16. "Terrible storytelling. No change. Little action."
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Didn't care for it one bit.

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17. "Blake Lively's character was annoying as fuck..."
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Slight Spoiler....

I don't know if this film was meant to be realistic but there is no chance in hell that mouthy spoiled brat-ass valley girl would ever get away from a real life cartel. They would have drugged her ass up, and placed her into prostitution while continuing to get money and drugs from the two dudes and eventually kill all three of them execution style. Also, the person in charge wouldn't have dumb enough to reveal their identity via SKYPE. That shit could be used as evidence against themselves. After I saw they somehow managed to get side help from a corrupt DEA and a rat from the cartel I was disappointed in the typical Hollywood cookie cutter cop-out ending sequence...

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22. "Preach!"
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18. "RE: Savages (Stone, 2012)"
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that looks like some bullshit and i'm pissed this is the kinda thing stone is doing now. i can't really picture myself rooting for some dudes like that to win the day.

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19. "wtf, this was the pits"
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and the 2 endings just validated how silly this whole thing was.
and blake lively didnt even show her titties.
no real good titties at all in fact.
the barely any spanish bothered me too.

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20. "HORIBBLE. Stone should get stoned (biblicaly speaking). "
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That was one of the worst movies I saw. No wonder I only go to the movies twice a year.

If the 'Dark Knight Rises' sucks, I am peeing in my slurpee cup and throwing it at the screen.

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24. "I'm sorry, y'all, but I liked this flick"
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The story laid out pretty much the same as it did in the book, which was fine by me

I strongly disagreed with the cop-out happy ending, though. IIRC, the book ends the same way the original ending does, with the three of them on the verge of death. This felt like someone at Universal told Winslow, Stone, and Salerno to change the ending just in case this hits and they want to do a sequel...

The movie also illuminated a central problem that I had with the book, which was that, while O says that she, Ben, and Chon love each other so much, and the whole mission was done in the name of love, it was just hard for me to buy it, because I didn't *feel* (book) or *see* (film) any semblance of love between the three of them. And I'm not talking about the chemistry between Lively, Kitsch, and Johnson, I'm talking about seeing some genuine sense of affection and bonding between the three of them (and coming off the heels of Spider-Man and seeing Garfield and Stone's chemistry didn't help this movie's case). And the scenes of them drinking Patron at the table, then getting high with an ice-filled bong don't count. I could have stood to have seen a couple more minutes of backstory detailing how these 3 bonded and came together. Because as the story stands now, I kept wondering why these cats were doing so much to rescue a f*ck toy. Well, that's pretty much what she was.

Those problems aside, I enjoyed the movie. No, I did. I thought that Benecio Del Toro was very good, but so was Travolta. NOPE! Hand Job Johnny delivered! And I loved Salma hamming it up as well.

I dunno, I thought it was a simple, brutal and fun ride. I didn't think too hard about it, during or afterwards. *shrugs*

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25. "You should check out Kings Of Cool, the prequel"
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Haven't gotten to that one yet but I hear it fleshes that bonding element real well.

  

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26. "Yeah, I definitely agree with this."
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>The movie also illuminated a central problem that I had with
>the book, which was that, while O says that she, Ben, and Chon
>love each other so much, and the whole mission was done in the
>name of love, it was just hard for me to buy it, because I
>didn't *feel* (book) or *see* (film) any semblance of love
>between the three of them. And I'm not talking about the
>chemistry between Lively, Kitsch, and Johnson, I'm talking
>about seeing some genuine sense of affection and bonding
>between the three of them (and coming off the heels of
>Spider-Man and seeing Garfield and Stone's chemistry didn't
>help this movie's case). And the scenes of them drinking
>Patron at the table, then getting high with an ice-filled bong
>don't count. I could have stood to have seen a couple more
>minutes of backstory detailing how these 3 bonded and came
>together. Because as the story stands now, I kept wondering
>why these cats were doing so much to rescue a f*ck toy. Well,
>that's pretty much what she was.

Especially when she acted like such a damn idiot with her captors. There's no depth to her story with them, so why are they risking everything for what is, in essence, their whore?


> but so was
>Travolta. NOPE! Hand Job Johnny delivered!

This was the first time Travolta didn't dance in a movie that I liked him in. He has a career as a bald pudgy supporting guy ahead of him-- he needs to ditch the rugs and embrace the sleaze.

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27. "I laughed when Hayek's big trailer line wasn't the same"
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In the trailer, we see her say, "THEY KILLED 8 OF MY MEN!" and it's kind of hilarious. Stone must have realized it because it was simply overheard dialogue in the actual movie.

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32. "im sorry..."Hand Job Johnny"? lolll"
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28. "Blakes voiceover was awful to me"
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I think its just her voice but I did not like it all.

BDT killed it but deserved a Savage ending.

What I got from this was that they were doing a film study of poorly parented daughters.

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29. "who thought making this movie was a good idea?"
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this isn't even about whether or not it's good, but what market was this supposed to be targeting?

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30. "horrible--"
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just out and out annoyingly horrible

  

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31. "Benecio & AJ kept my interest. Blake & Taylor were terrible."
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