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Buddy_Gilapagos
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"Can we talk about Dystopias?"


  

          

What's your favorite? I was thinking that most people would say Blade Runner but as I was thinking about it is the future in Blade Runner that bad? Maybe the movie qaulifies as an environmental dystopia and yeah life in the city seem to suck but what about life outside the city? The final scene with Decker and chick driving in the country-side, that seemed pretty nice. Also there is life off-world.

I also caught robocop on TV the other day and it reminded me of all the 70s-80s dystopian flixs that were based on the fear that we would never be able to contain Crime. Consider RoboCop, Escape From New York, A Clockwork Orange (Does "The Warriors" count?)It reminded me that Dystopian Sci-Fi works based when it plays on societal existential threats. In the 70s and 80s I remember one of the biggest things people were concerned about was crime and it manifested in the movies from that era. It was also a big theme in the comics from that era (see the Dark Night Returns).

It got me thinking that's why the Movie V for Vendetta fell so flat. Despite the Patriot Act and the war times powers claimed by the government, are people on a whole really concerned these days about the US turning into a Big Brother type fascists government? I am not but this isn't the place for that debate. I think I am worried more about everyone watching me not just the government like in the movie Minority Report.

I also think the idea behind Atlas Shrugged is kinda garbage. Who is really buying into the idea that successful people are victims of a lazy, parasitic society that would use the govt. as a tool to bleed them dry? Though its a bit slapstick, I think "Brazil" better captures a possible bureaucratic threat from the government.

If you ask me the story that best captures a dystopian future that best reflect the fears and anxiety of people today, I think its got to be "Children of Men"(Not at all coincidentally one of my top 3 sci-fi movies of all time). Though on its surface its a story about what would happen if folks stop having kid, the chaos that was depicted in the movie seemed totally foreseeable if there were a worldwide financial depression (which these days seems totally possible). Actually, there are any number of things that could happen that could throw us into a world that resembles the world in CoM which makes the movie all the more scary.


Anyway, I touched on a few movies that come to mind and shared some thoughts and was interested to hear other folks thoughts. Did I miss any movies worth discussing? Anything to add about some of the movies I mentioned?





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my list:
Feb 29th 2012
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types of dystopias
Feb 29th 2012
2
cool. list some works that fall into each section
Feb 29th 2012
3
sure
Feb 29th 2012
5
what about hybrids?
Mar 01st 2012
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is there a 'failed economy' one?
Mar 28th 2012
43
Windup Girl is my current fave
Feb 29th 2012
4
NoPayne wasn't crazy about it
Feb 29th 2012
6
that conceptualization was pretty dope
Mar 27th 2012
38
Oryx & Crake and its sequel, The Year of the Flood
Feb 29th 2012
7
one of my favorite genres
Feb 29th 2012
8
As far as books are concerned, I really like The Dispossessed
Feb 29th 2012
9
12 Monkeys is one of my all time favorites
Feb 29th 2012
10
The Crow
Feb 29th 2012
11
does Clockwork Orange count as dystopian?
Feb 29th 2012
12
this a great anthology:
Mar 01st 2012
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Looks dope but mad expensive yo!!!
Mar 01st 2012
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      10 dollars man
Mar 18th 2012
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           could have sworn it was 40 when I first looked.
Mar 19th 2012
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Children of Men is my favorite
Mar 01st 2012
15
stole my reply
Mar 01st 2012
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At least in Blade Runner there was ample street parking
Mar 01st 2012
16
HA! well in 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later,
Mar 01st 2012
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Lately I'm digging the sneaky ones
Mar 01st 2012
20
Examples?
Mar 01st 2012
21
Minority Report and... Pleasantville maybe?
Mar 01st 2012
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      Haven't seen Pleasantville but Minority Report is a great example
Mar 01st 2012
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           Disturbing on multiple levels
Mar 01st 2012
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great point. Starship Troopers is an example of what you describe
Mar 19th 2012
30
RE: The Fifth Element
Mar 28th 2012
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aeon flux count?
Mar 18th 2012
26
Does Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 count?
Mar 19th 2012
27
"Infinite Jest" has an amazing one.
Mar 19th 2012
28
Chew on Rollerball and THX1138....
Mar 19th 2012
31
throw in The Island (2005)
Mar 23rd 2012
37
More...
Mar 19th 2012
32
I enjoyed "Equilibrium"
Mar 20th 2012
33
^^^ slept-on film ^^^
Mar 27th 2012
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Final scene in Blade Runner's theatrical release was tacked on by studio
Mar 21st 2012
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Amazon reads peoples minds yo.
Mar 22nd 2012
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honourary mention: DEMOLITION MAN.
Mar 23rd 2012
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There are scenes in V for Vendetta I like a lot but it does fall flat
Mar 27th 2012
40
does WALL*E not count? and what about Gattaca?
Mar 28th 2012
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Moon was pretty good
Mar 28th 2012
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Code 46
Mar 28th 2012
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^^^^
Feb 04th 2014
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Agree on the feeling of plausibility with Children of Men
Mar 29th 2012
46
Re-reading this post in the Post Snowden Era
Feb 04th 2014
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it's a little eerie, right?
Feb 09th 2014
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the ones in the black mirror series currently
Feb 04th 2014
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this is probably my favorite theme in sci-fi movies
Feb 04th 2014
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studies this post intently
Feb 05th 2014
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To me the original ROBOCOP was more focused on
Feb 06th 2014
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exactly. Verhoeven was clowning the shit outta America's
Feb 06th 2014
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There's a group of 80's movies that have a punk rock influence.
Feb 07th 2014
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      REPO MEN!
Oct 11th 2017
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hadn't seen this thread but it's awesome....
Feb 07th 2014
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One of the reasons I love Battle Royale so much
Feb 10th 2014
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We never discussed Hunger Games in this post.
Dec 03rd 2014
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I keep going back to the idea that I completely underestimated this seri...
Mar 16th 2020
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Yo, I went back and Picked up Asimov's Foundation books
Oct 10th 2017
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Read them as a kid, and now you made me wanna go back....
Oct 10th 2017
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I started to reread the whole series chronologically
Oct 10th 2017
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      definitely my hesitation to going back
Oct 11th 2017
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RE: Can we talk about Dystopias?
Mar 27th 2020
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SankofaII
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1. "my list:"
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(which will probably overlap with yours):

Fahrenheit 451
Logan's Run
The Road
Mad Max Series
Brazil
28 Days Later
28 Weeks Later
Liquid Sky
Blade Runner
Children of Men
Never Let Me Go

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2. "types of dystopias"
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- corporations take over
- crime takes over (might be same as above)
- science run amok (e.x. killer animals, robots, or diseases)
- post-thermonuclear war
- government run amok
- religion takes over or is abolished completely (depends on who is writing)

any others?

on topic, it depends on the vibe being looked for - some are horrific (zombies and radiation victims) some are kinda played humorously (ie - robocop)

  

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3. "cool. list some works that fall into each section"
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5. "sure"
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- corporations take over

neuromancer, brave new world, running man, iron heel

- crime takes over (might be same as above)

warriors, clockwork orange

- science run amok (e.x. killer animals, robots, or diseases)

terminator, 2001, 28 days, planet of the apes

- post-thermonuclear war

the day after, armageddon's children

- government run amok

1984, Fahrenheit 451, star wars

- religion takes over or is abolished completely (depends on who is writing)

handmade's tale, left behind

note: some of these can fit in multiple categories

  

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14. "what about hybrids?"
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the "if you don't like 2011, wait til you see what 2021 looks like" genre.

books like super sad true love story or ken mcleod's first few stories.




  

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43. "is there a 'failed economy' one?"
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4. "Windup Girl is my current fave"
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Post Genetics meltdown set in Thailand.

I tend to prefer "near" future dystopias heavy on somewhat believable tech - i.e. cyberpunk stories are typically dystopian. (Sterling, Gibson, Stephenson)

I wish it was possible to do a hip hop dystopia as good as the Alkaholik's 2014.

  

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6. "NoPayne wasn't crazy about it"
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I liked the ideas in it & the execution.

I felt like it sorta kinda combined what I like in China Mieville and in John Burdett.



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38. "that conceptualization was pretty dope"
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7. "Oryx & Crake and its sequel, The Year of the Flood"
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I like those a lot. Margaret Atwood does dystopia really well.

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8. "one of my favorite genres"
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I don't read much, but loved The Stand and The Road.

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9. "As far as books are concerned, I really like The Dispossessed "
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For movies I like Dark City but I am not sure that qualifies as a dystopia.

This is a good topic, I'll try to think of some more and post up later

  

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10. "12 Monkeys is one of my all time favorites"
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11. "The Crow"
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12. "does Clockwork Orange count as dystopian?"
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not completely sure, but it felt like it.

Soilent Green?

Liquid Sky,...another weird one. (So lo-fi that its intriguing.)

  

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13. "this a great anthology:"
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http://www.amazon.com/Brave-New-Worlds-Dystopian-Stories/dp/1597802212

  

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19. "Looks dope but mad expensive yo!!!"
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29. "could have sworn it was 40 when I first looked."
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15. "Children of Men is my favorite"
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I also like
Akira
V for Vendetta
Neon Genesis Evangelion
The Book of Eli
The Warriors
The Matrix

Started reading Parable of the Sower not too long ago too, unfortunately it may be a while before I can finish it..

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18. "stole my reply"
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16. "At least in Blade Runner there was ample street parking"
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17. "HA! well in 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later,"
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there was plenty of parking in London...you just had to be aware of the fact that you'd be dealing with raging zombies and the like coming out of nowhere because they hear the car trying to parallel park and what not.

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20. "Lately I'm digging the sneaky ones"
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Like, Blade Runner looks awesome *as a movie*, but I wouldn't want to live in that shithole, and I have a hard time imagining that anyone else would either. Mad Max, Terminator... yeah. Same with those, although most people in those worlds are victims of circumstance and are just playing the post-apocalyptic hand they were dealt.

But when the dystopias start resembling utopias, it's a bit more interesting to me (lately, anyways) because you can totally see how people could be lured into that kind of society. At a glance, it looks perfect. Then the story unfolds a bit more and reveals the nasty underbelly. Futures where the apocalypse never happened and people still take baths.

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21. "Examples?"
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>But when the dystopias start resembling utopias, it's a bit
>more interesting to me (lately, anyways) because you can
>totally see how people could be lured into that kind of
>society. At a glance, it looks perfect. Then the story unfolds
>a bit more and reveals the nasty underbelly. Futures where the
>apocalypse never happened and people still take baths.

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22. "Minority Report and... Pleasantville maybe?"
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These worlds have a certain allure to them for the security they seem to provide. It's not immediately evident of what has been lost to gain that security, which turns out to be an illusion to add insult to injury.

Brave New World probably fits into the general mold I'm thinking of, but I ain't read alladatshit.

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23. "Haven't seen Pleasantville but Minority Report is a great example"
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I actually like Minority Report quite a bit. I'm sure if the "pre-cog" technology somehow was to become a real thing, there would definitely be a segment of the population who would be in favor of using it, regardless of the potential flaws in the system.

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24. "Disturbing on multiple levels"
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Are you SURE this shit works, and if so... what does that say about free will?

But hey, if you're Joe Schmo living in that world, you might sleep just fine at night. Which is also kind of unnerving

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30. "great point. Starship Troopers is an example of what you describe"
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Aside from the alien attack, the future society had become largely a militaristic dystopia (and the main characters seem to love it).


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41. "RE: The Fifth Element"
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>But when the dystopias start resembling utopias, it's a bit
>more interesting to me (lately, anyways) because you can
>totally see how people could be lured into that kind of
>society. At a glance, it looks perfect. Then the story unfolds
>a bit more and reveals the nasty underbelly. Futures where the
>apocalypse never happened and people still take baths.

The imo the fifth element is the perfect example of what you are talking about.

  

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26. "aeon flux count?"
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that cartoon crazy as fock



city of men word


i gotta say running man

  

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27. "Does Alien, Aliens, and Alien 3 count?"
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I know we never really see Earth but it sounds like a shitty place that is ran by corporations.

  

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28. ""Infinite Jest" has an amazing one."
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These mofos are, via grand-scale slingshots, hurling waste/radioactive material into Canada. Too drunk to elaborate right now ...

But this novel is amazing. So sorry I just got around to reading it now.

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31. "Chew on Rollerball and THX1138...."
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Also...Conquest Of The Planet Of The Apes ?

I just wanted to throw these in there for discussion.


What the blood claaat ???

  

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32. "More..."
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District 13
Death Race 2000
Strange Days
Soylent Green
Ghost in the Shell
Omega Man
AI
Gattaca
Sleeper

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

*Effasig*

  

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33. "I enjoyed "Equilibrium" "
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It was a mix of 1984 & the matrix.

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39. "^^^ slept-on film ^^^"
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all you christian bale stans probably know already

but damn this movie is sick

But hell, what do I know?

  

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34. "Final scene in Blade Runner's theatrical release was tacked on by studio"
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>but what about life outside the city? The final scene with
>Decker and chick driving in the country-side, that seemed
>pretty nice. Also there is life off-world.

it ruins the whole complexion of the movie. you should really watch the dirctor's cut or the final cut.

and life on the off-world colonies very likely sucked, hence the need for propoganda blimps floating overhead telling ppl how great life is off-world + the need for replicants to do the hard work for survival there.

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35. "Amazon reads peoples minds yo."
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Why did I get an email from Amazon like this:

Brave New Worlds: Dystopian Stories

Are you looking for something in our Science Fiction & Fantasy books department? If so, you might be interested in these items.

then a list of Dystopian novels.

All this because I guess I went to amazon to check out some of the books mentioned in this post.

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36. "honourary mention: DEMOLITION MAN."
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40. "There are scenes in V for Vendetta I like a lot but it does fall flat"
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Couldn't get through Brazil but Children of Men & Minority Report are both great. A Scanner Darkly isn't a popular choice here but it's still one of my favorites as well.

  

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42. "does WALL*E not count? and what about Gattaca?"
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if I were to point to two contemporary dystopias that speak to my real fears, those would be two strong examples.

WALL*E in particular, hate that it's taken lightly b/c of the "kid's movie" stygma.

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44. "Moon was pretty good"
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Lots of others have already been mentioned.

Second Equilibrium.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_%28film%29

But hell, what do I know?

  

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45. "Code 46"
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48. "^^^^"
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46. "Agree on the feeling of plausibility with Children of Men"
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It actually really got to me. It just felt right. Like, yep, this is what it will be like in 50 years. There are riots and anything might get bombed at any moment and toxic waste flows freely out of random pipes, but you still have to get up and go to your office and sit in front of a computer.

The sad thing is, this is probably what life is already like in a bunch of places.

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47. "Re-reading this post in the Post Snowden Era"
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I think I might need to take back my point about being worried about the government snooping on you.

I was thinking that it would be cool to be a minority report type story in which the government uses Big Data to come up with a 100,000 data point survey that can predict with 85% accuracy that you will be involved in criminal activity. A crime happens in the city and instantaneously a list of suspects pop up before the investigation even begins based on data about the cities citizens.



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56. "it's a little eerie, right?"
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I mean, the scenario you describe sounds like sc-fi but isn't that what they're doing, on some scale? I'm sure it's nowhere near what you're describing but I think it could be, if they have their way.

It's bizarre reading old dystopian novels and seeing all the things they got right. I'm reading Fahrenheit 451 right now and the radios that go into your ear sound a lot like earbuds, the hound is awfully similar to a drone and their version of tv doesn't sound all that different from ours.

  

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49. "the ones in the black mirror series currently"
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man too close to home


then
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The Handmaid's Tale
and
Oryx and Crake series
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50. "this is probably my favorite theme in sci-fi movies"
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probably because i ultimately see earth turning into a dystopia of some form
i started watching atlas shrugged but stopped after a few minutes. i need to get into that one again

edit:
damn a lot of movies in here i need to add to my netflix queue.

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51. "studies this post intently"
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52. "To me the original ROBOCOP was more focused on"
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the WAR on Crime and corporate satire than an actual fear of crime itself.

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53. "exactly. Verhoeven was clowning the shit outta America's"
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obsessive need for control and violence through a militarized police state

very much mocking the paranoia created by Reaganomics

it mirrors much of what Hakim Bey addresses in parts of T.A.Z. published just 4yrs after OG Robo

  

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54. "There's a group of 80's movies that have a punk rock influence."
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Robocop, Gremlins 2, Miracle Mile....there's a handful of others. But you can see the punk rock idealogy and sense of identity in them. Also with a certain amount of kitsch.

  

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63. "REPO MEN!"
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55. "hadn't seen this thread but it's awesome...."
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The hunger games is gonna really go down with this generation of preteen girls. It'll be like Star Wars for them. Taking the girls to that movie was totally inspiring to me. Seeing the way the audience was reacting and how deeply they were invested. Twice I saw a full house with kids standing up outta their seats saluting the characters as portrayed in the movie.

The Road is a commendable movie in that it is such a rigid and loyal translation of the book. Even where it makes exceptions to the source material...it is always serving it's spirit. I didn't really dig Looper. Writing was too 'boy' for me. Nerdy comic book dweebs can't write about women.

Has a dystopian story ever won oscars? "Her" seems to apply there. Trying to think...pretty sure clockwork orange, blade runner, COM didn't get awards. Any others?



  

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57. "One of the reasons I love Battle Royale so much"
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A government so wild that it would force children to fight against one another to the death for the world to see. Gotta love that.

Dystopian stories are my favorite.

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58. "We never discussed Hunger Games in this post. "
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You know initially I thought it was too farfetched and didn't in anyway resemble our society but then I remembered my shoes are probably made by someone paid 3 a week.

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64. "I keep going back to the idea that I completely underestimated this seri..."
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The idea of a war being played out as a PR marketing strategy. I just really see that being a thing.

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59. "Yo, I went back and Picked up Asimov's Foundation books"
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Just started it but its whole angle about a civilization in decline resonates ALOT in the Trump error (Fruedian slip).

Especially the angle about these intractable problems that no one seems to give a shit about fixing? Whoa


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60. "Read them as a kid, and now you made me wanna go back...."
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They were such great books, and so fully realized. Even the angle of psychohistory has been touched on by so many other sci fi franchises.
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61. "I started to reread the whole series chronologically "
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Starting with Prelude to Foundation which was written much later. I was pretty much disgusted by how horrible a writer he was. I made it to the end of that one but couldn't bring myself to open another one.

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62. "definitely my hesitation to going back"
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Dude was my favorite writer as a kid just getting into sci-fi but I knew it wouldn't hold up very well.

Prose style aside, I am enjoying re-reading purely for the ideas alone.

It is also clear to me that it would be extremely difficult to translate to the big screen. It mostly just extremely stilted conversation.


>Starting with Prelude to Foundation which was written much
>later. I was pretty much disgusted by how horrible a writer he
>was. I made it to the end of that one but couldn't bring
>myself to open another one.
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>Big PEMFin H & z's
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>thing, a musician." οΏ½ Miles
>
>"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."


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65. "RE: Can we talk about Dystopias?"
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