A friend and I were talking and I made a rough scale of 1 to 10 for twists.

10 - Twist makes sense, is elegant, reasonably unexpected/unpredictable, re-contextualizes movie in a very that makes an already good movie much more satisfying, rewards repeated viewing.

8 - Twist makes sense, reasonably unexpected/unpredictable, re-contextualizes movie in a way that makes film better, but it's arguable that without the thrill of the twist the movie isn't quality.

5 - This is for twists that could go either way. Twist kind of makes sense. Twist kind of re-contextualizes movie. Twist is kind unexpected. Anything above 5 is satisfying. Anything below 5 is annoying.

3 - Twists that are either reasonably unexpected/unpredictable but make no sense, or twists that make sense but are way to easy to see coming, generally make movie worse

1 - Twists that don't work on any level whatsoever.

So here's a sample:

10 - Sixth Sense
8 - Usual Suspects
5- The Prestige
3- The Village
1 - High Tension, or something similar

Anyway, reasoning on Prestige: Explanation for how the trick is done is lazy (magic machine that we don't have to explain how it works) but the implications are actually pretty creepy and makes you think a bit.

Thoughts? Or post up a movie and let's rate the twist.

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Adds a new level to the creepiness, but is arguably unneeded. Plus it leads to that stupid speech by the doctor.

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because killing off Janet Leigh in one of the greatest death scenes in film history could count as the "twist". back then, I don't think *anybody* was expecting that....it'd be like advertising a thriller with Julia Roberts as the star, then getting rid of her in the first half hour.

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all i thought of when i first saw it was how crazy it must have been for audiences in 1960

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may seem obvious now, but I still really like it. probably because Norton carried it so well.

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It was a cool twist but we've seen it done the same way
I say 6 mostly cause the movie was good in gen

and every movie had to have a trick out.
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The end (beginning?) where we find out he killed the guy a long time ago and has been used since.

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>The end (beginning?) where we find out he killed the guy a
>long time ago and has been used since.

There's that & then the bigger twist for me was Lenny accepting that information from Teddy and then making him the new John G target to go after even though he knew he wasn't the real guy.

Either way, both worked for me. Between those two & Natalie, everyone was using each other.

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the "twist" was so predictable, I was hoping all of Leo's delusions were actually reality before the ending was revealed. boring payoff to an average flick.

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i was trying to find any evidence of him still being sane and have that be the twist, because it was just so much more interesting than the 4 mph fluffmobile that had been coming my way from the start of the film.

Lol ok.

I thought the real twist was the fact that Borden had a twin.

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How do they do travel back in time?

Yes, I would have been let down.

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that dude sends him on a wild goose chase that ends up being a real chase is just dumb.

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Of molecular transfer theory that nobody in the theatre
Is gonna understand yet say ahh and twirl their goatee
Like they gonna do some trial runs afterward?

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The twin brothers was the twist that got me more than anything, that added to the flick. That was the big reveal to me.

Angier's thing was just his being so incredibly hell bent on figuring out the trick, when the answer was literally in front of his face the entire time.

I liked it, and felt that it added something to the movie.

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The ol "it was all a dream" shit

I think that shit is lazy as hell

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i get why people hate it, but i don't. at all.

"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

especially the end, when they verbally explain the whole thing, instead of finding a way to show us.

it's also where crowe started overplaying his hand on cameron crowe moments. the result was elizabethtown

despite all that, i still enjoy it

But introducing sci-fi in the third act really doesn't annoy me that much.



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>especially the end, when they verbally explain the whole
>thing, instead of finding a way to show us.
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it's been a while since i've seen it, but isn't there a scene in an elevator where a "Mr. Exposition" character literally explains everything that's happened? that's my ultimate pet peeve. i was done with the movie after that.

and then, after seeing "Abres Los Ojos" and realizing "Vanilla Sky" literally changed *nothing* in remaking it, it made me hate it that much more.

A real cherry on top kind of twist. Makes an already fun movie even more fun.

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DEFINITELY didn't see that shit coming.

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because the entire time you are watch the movie the question isn't who is Kaiser Soze but rather the main question is whether Keaton is alive (Folks forget that), so by the time you learn that kent is soze you are totally thrown.

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not that there's anything wrong with that. i think it's great.

though it bears some responsibility for all the shitty surprise ending movies that followed

The ending was fine til it said, "Mr. Glass went to prison and paid for his crimes. The end!"

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Sammy J is the bad guy.

It's not a *twist* in that it's surprising... but the lengths to which he went to look for Bruce is pretty unsettling.

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>Sammy J is the bad guy.
>
>It's not a *twist* in that it's surprising... but the lengths
>to which he went to look for Bruce is pretty unsettling.

I actually liked the movie up until a certain point where I kept waiting for the twist. He gave it away when he asks him early on if he's at one end of the spectrum, doesn't there have to be someone else at the other.

caption(with the freeze frame even) just made me...

*facepalm*

I always assumed that was the big wigs pressuring him

i've never watched a shyamalan movie more than once though

and i quit after signs

To give a film a twist like that took a whole lot of bravery.

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I liked the twist but the execution was shit

*spoiler*

why in the world did they include the line "someone must be forcing her" in the commercial? 'cause, it's like, yep, that's the movie. i mean, halfway through, you don't know if the guy is delusional from the accident and never had a wife, if he landed in an alternate universe, or what. it's fun trying to figure it out. but if you saw the commercial first, you pretty much know the twist.

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>*spoiler*
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>why in the world did they include the line "someone must be
>forcing her" in the commercial? 'cause, it's like, yep,
>that's the movie. i mean, halfway through, you don't know if
>the guy is delusional from the accident and never had a wife,
>if he landed in an alternate universe, or what. it's fun
>trying to figure it out. but if you saw the commercial first,
>you pretty much know the twist.

I missed that line, didn't guess the twist, & didn't get The Bourne Indentity comparison until after it was revealed. Besides that it didn't really remind me of Bourne or Taken. Would've been better if it did tho.

I haven't seen it, but if I had to bet money, I'm betting Frank Langella is behind it.

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>I haven't seen it, but if I had to bet money, I'm betting
>Frank Langella is behind it.

You're right but does knowing who's behind it still tell you what the twist is?

I'm sure I'll figure out the particulars when I arrive.

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Sorry if there's a more preferred phrase than Star Wars Geeks. But considering that I know most of them consider Return of the Jedi to be the weakest of the original three, I wonder how if they consider the whole Luke/Darth Daddy relationship to be part of the problem.

Anyway, I'd say between 7.5 and 8.5.

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they gave away the twist in the trailer.....



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