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"True Grit (The Coens, 2010)"
Thu Dec-02-10 08:19 AM by Frank Longo

          

a.k.a. Starrcade '88

Alright this is the official post. Let's kick this off with now the full trailer. Shit looks fucking gully!!!
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70348

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Not real gully, but fun
Oct 04th 2010
1
Wait, how did I miss they somehow made this a PG-13?
Dec 02nd 2010
2
Without spoiling, I will say that there is some borderline violence
Dec 02nd 2010
5
      the cabin scene springs to mind *possible spoilers*
Dec 15th 2010
7
           Mannnn
Jan 03rd 2011
58
LOL, I just now saw the other post, Zoo.
Dec 02nd 2010
3
Yeah, I meant to put the link in either the OP or my post
Dec 02nd 2010
4
Saw this last night
Dec 15th 2010
6
Lincoln Square?
Dec 15th 2010
10
      RE: Lincoln Square?
Dec 16th 2010
19
I was underwhelmed.
Dec 15th 2010
8
maybe cause they spend the whole movie hyping up brolin's character
Dec 15th 2010
13
RE: maybe cause they spend the whole movie hyping up brolin's character
Jan 22nd 2011
67
I thought it was the least Coen Brothers-like of all their films.
Dec 23rd 2010
29
      My thoughts exactly
Dec 26th 2010
33
      yeah, surprisingly no genre bending at all
Dec 27th 2010
38
Great start, great dialogue, but falters down the stretch.
Dec 15th 2010
9
i agree about the underutilized actors, but i enjoyed it thoroughly
Dec 15th 2010
11
I enjoyed it thoroughly as well. If anything it could've been longer.
Dec 15th 2010
12
      definitely needed more focus on the villains
Dec 15th 2010
14
agreed on all counts
Dec 27th 2010
35
Enjoyed it
Dec 15th 2010
15
Anyone expecting No Country for Old Men 2010 is going to be let down.
Dec 15th 2010
16
It's more Barton Fink than it is No Country.
Dec 16th 2010
17
Yep.
Dec 16th 2010
18
      if it's like you guys say, they kind of had to promote it like that
Dec 16th 2010
20
           They could easily sell it as a Jeff Bridges vehicle and actually still
Dec 16th 2010
21
                wow
Dec 16th 2010
22
                ^^^
Dec 17th 2010
24
Is it pretty faithful to the original? The trailers look it.
Dec 17th 2010
23
      RE: Is it pretty faithful to the original? The trailers look it.
Dec 17th 2010
25
      From what I understand, yes.
Dec 22nd 2010
26
Loved it
Dec 22nd 2010
27
That little girl killed it. She was great.
Dec 23rd 2010
28
Yeah, the comedy's been mentioned
Dec 30th 2010
44
I thought it was terrific.
Dec 24th 2010
30
you sure steinfield will be in best supporting?
Dec 29th 2010
39
Best movie of 2010...by far!
Dec 26th 2010
31
There were bookends in the original and the new one (spoiler)
Dec 26th 2010
32
i expected a "big" movie and got a cool little one
Dec 27th 2010
34
RE: True Grit (The Coens, 2010)
Dec 27th 2010
36
I enjoyed it (flaws included)
Dec 27th 2010
37
just saw this last night.
Dec 29th 2010
40
Some more thoughts about the portrayal of Native people in the movie
Dec 29th 2010
41
i felt bad for laughing at that
Dec 29th 2010
42
I wasn't there at the time, but the depictions seemed realistic
Dec 30th 2010
45
He was upset with those two kids bc they were abusing the horse.
Jan 01st 2011
47
The two boys were torturing the donkey, so he kicked them
Jan 03rd 2011
57
Awesome. The last thirty minutes were visually masterful.
Dec 29th 2010
43
thanks for this reply. definite food for thought.
Dec 30th 2010
46
why do you keep using the term incestous?
Jan 02nd 2011
49
      just following the idea that Cogburn is a surrogate father
Jan 02nd 2011
56
      ahh I got u.
Jan 05th 2011
64
      more like ephebophiliac given Mad's age.
Jan 03rd 2011
59
Great movie. minus the epilogue.
Jan 01st 2011
48
I saw this by mistake...
Jan 02nd 2011
50
solid movie. bridges and steinfeld killed it.
Jan 02nd 2011
51
loved how they had her ride off into the sunset at the end
Jan 02nd 2011
52
jeff bridges killed it.
Jan 02nd 2011
53
I liked it
Jan 02nd 2011
54
RE: True Grit (The Coens, 2010)
Jan 02nd 2011
55
RE: True Grit (The Coens, 2010)
Jan 03rd 2011
60
good performances, disjointed outcome (spoilers)
Jan 04th 2011
61
i don't think she ended up bitter at all
Jan 04th 2011
62
      well... yeah i can see that..
Jan 04th 2011
63
Enjoyable
Jan 08th 2011
65
RE:should have gave the villains more to do
Jan 21st 2011
66
Last line of the movie?
Jan 22nd 2011
68
Another crazy universe.....
Jan 31st 2011
69
oh yes, it was really well done
Jan 31st 2011
70
i thoroughly enjoyed it....
Jun 26th 2011
71
Are you guys fucking kidding me??
Jan 16th 2012
72

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1. "Not real gully, but fun"
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Thu Dec-02-10 11:07 AM by ZooTown74

  

          

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starrcade_1988

I just saw this, and I will clean it up later, but for now, I'll just say that the Coens are officially unfuckwitable.

Them, and Jeff Bridges.

Awesome, awesome flick.

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2. "Wait, how did I miss they somehow made this a PG-13?"
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There are a few scenes that should be full of gore.

Only "holiday" movie I'm looking forward to seeing; off that day and not traveling yet, may go to the opening matinee to give myself time to see it again the same day.

  

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5. "Without spoiling, I will say that there is some borderline violence"
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in this piece, though seeing as it's the Coens, it's kinda played for comedic effect

Yet and still, the movie does have violent scenes in it that could be considered a little graphic

And The King's Speech gets an R because Colin Firth says 'Fuck' about 20-leven times within the context of speech therapy... go figure...

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7. "the cabin scene springs to mind *possible spoilers*"
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When I was reading it, I was smiling thinking what the brothers would do with the dude getting his fingers chopped off by his buddy.

  

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58. "Mannnn "
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Me and my girl both reacted like OH SHIT when he did that.. that scene was dope.. but overall i really enjoyed the movie.. every aspect had me.. good times..

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3. "LOL, I just now saw the other post, Zoo."
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I had no idea what the fuck Starrcade '88 was, and I wondered how the Coens had squeezed another movie into their schedule, lol.

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4. "Yeah, I meant to put the link in either the OP or my post"
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I put it in my post so that folx can get the reference

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6. "Saw this last night"
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Solid film by the brothers. Don't want to spoil shit but the leading lady did a damn good job. The dialog was on point throughout the film. I loved the overall feel of the film. Without going too deep I'd give it a B. Ending felt a little soft to me. I haven't seen the John Wayne version and apparently the Coens didn't either. My girl got to photograph them yesterday and had them autograph my The Big Lebowski and Fargo dvds. I'm hyped!

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10. "Lincoln Square?"
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Mustve missed you man.

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19. "RE: Lincoln Square?"
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Yup I was there. Just got in before the movie started.

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8. "I was underwhelmed."
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I'm not sure why.

The acting is awesome. Bridges and Damon shine, as does the girl who plays Maddie. It's very Coen-esque...from the dialog to the quirky characters. It's got a lot of humor in it, and it's shot well. So why didn't I love it? I dunno. Something was missing.

Overall it's fine, but it's far from the masterpiece that so many were expecting. And y'know, I'm okay with that. I think we need to start seeing these movies before we deem them obvious Oscar frontrunners. I'm as guilty of that as anyone, but I think it's wrong.

That said - I'm glad I saw it, but...meh.

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13. "maybe cause they spend the whole movie hyping up brolin's character"
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and then when they get there, everything about him is underwhelming. he lets himself get shot by a girl (and is pretty nonchalant about it), he's taking orders from other dudes, he's clumsy, he's not scary. the interaction between him and the girl was bland. once we got those two alone, the emotional sparks should have been flying, but they're both just kind of exchanging polite conversation. and he dies getting outwrestled for a rifle by a teenage girl, not outsmarted like you'd expect from how they set her up as such a hustler. not exactly an iconic screen villain. plus, the final shootout with bridges vs. four generic bad guys had little going on narratively. still a fantastic film, but those were some of the reasons i think the ending fizzles a bit.

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67. "RE: maybe cause they spend the whole movie hyping up brolin's character"
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29. "I thought it was the least Coen Brothers-like of all their films."
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>It's very Coen-esque

I have to claim ignorance on the original novel, so I don't know what was there originally and what has been added by the Coens. The bookended narration, the J.K. Simmons cameo, the bargaining scene early on, and then the depiction of the finger and tongue incidents, respectively, were the only moments that I would connect with their particular brand of film-making. Yes, some of the characters possess a certain verbosity and the dude that simply made the animal noises was an off-kilter addition to the story, but this didn't feel like them. Even Intolerable Cruelty, which they picked up midstream as a rewrite, seemed to bare more of their trademarks. Moreover, especially visually, none of their usual style or quirks were present. (Side note: going back at least to Ladykillers, I don't think they've ever really successfully integrated CGI into their films.)

Now True Grit is not as off-the-mark as those two aforementioned miscues, but that's because it's saved mostly by strong performances: Bridges, Damon, and Pepper in particular.

If you had told me someone like James Mangold directed this, I wouldn't have been surprised.

Disappointing.

>That said - I'm glad I saw it, but...meh.

Thoughts exactly.

  

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33. "My thoughts exactly"
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I definitely left thinking this precise thing, that it was the most ordinary film I've seen the Coens make ever. Every film up to this one that I can think of bears a stamp of uniqueness that suggests no one else could have made this film, but this one was really quite garden-variety.
Great performances though, especially by Bridges and Brolin.

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38. "yeah, surprisingly no genre bending at all"
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they're being very un-coen

  

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9. "Great start, great dialogue, but falters down the stretch."
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I thought for sure Hailee Steinfield would be the weak link but she was acted like a seasoned vet amongst the heavyweights here. I was extremely surprised and satisfied with her performance. Her & Bridges carried the film as far as they could and Damon adds some decent supporting work as well.

I guess my main beef was the underutilization of Josh Brolin & Barry Pepper. These guys are supposed to be the main villains & were treated like afterthoughts. While I didn't expcet them to be as bad ass as Chigurgh, I certainly figured the Coens would give them some good material to sink their teeth in. Kept waitin & waitin for it but never got it.

I guess that's the give & take tho.

  

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11. "i agree about the underutilized actors, but i enjoyed it thoroughly"
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brolin is getting billed, but he's hardly in it.
i expected more from damon too.
but honestly i loved it. i wasnt expecting much, and i laughed my ass off. i need to watch it again with closed captions.
hailee and bridges deserve some nominations, cant believe they got snubbed.
the ending was whatever, but the dialog and acting more then made up for the ending.

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12. "I enjoyed it thoroughly as well. If anything it could've been longer."
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Would've allowed Brolin & Pepper to do a bit more.

  

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14. "definitely needed more focus on the villains"
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almost felt like they shot a bunch of scenes with the brolin/pepper gang with the intention of cutting back and forth occasionally between them and our heroes, but then they scrapped all of it and said let's just meet them at the river like the girl does. i say that 'cause the ending played as if we were supposed to know/care about these bad guys a bit. the standoff between bridges and pepper had almost zero narrative setup and brolin's character felt like he was missing a ton of early scenes 'cause there just wasn't much to him. a longer movie, a few extra scenes here and there of the brolin/pepper gang running/regrouping/plotting/infighting could have added much more impact to the ending.

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35. "agreed on all counts"
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15. "Enjoyed it"
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good fun.
Definitely NOT the best movie of the year, like all those commercials been saying.
Solid point on the "underutilized actors."
Kinda mad they couldn't get Buscemi for that one role - you know a Lebowski reunion would have been awesome!
I will say it was funnier than I thought it would be.



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16. "Anyone expecting No Country for Old Men 2010 is going to be let down."
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I shoulda said that from jump. And those commercials with the gunshots every 3 seconds are COMPLETELY misleading. Also should have said that from jump too.

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17. "It's more Barton Fink than it is No Country."
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Is that hyperbolic? I dunno maybe. But it's certainly a lot more talky than the trailers might have one believe.

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18. "Yep."
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>But it's certainly a lot
>more talky than the trailers might have one believe.

Which is why I'm annoyed as shit at the commercials that Paramount has put out. They've done a shitty job (mis)promoting both this and The Fighter this year.

Watch it turn out that the fucking Coens put together the commercials themselves.

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20. "if it's like you guys say, they kind of had to promote it like that"
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I'm excited to see it, but a talky, moody character study western is NOT going to draw in a crowd. Throwing out No Country For Old Men and making it look like mean guys with big guns blasting...well.

But I mean, the Coen Bros are always kind of out to leave part of their audience feeling cheated and unsatisfied. Basically every movie I can think of of theirs had something about it to make someone in the theaters go "What the hell, that's it?" Except maybe The Hudsucker Proxy, and that tanked.

  

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21. "They could easily sell it as a Jeff Bridges vehicle and actually still"
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could if he starts winning awards for it.

The movie's not really a moody character piece at all, it's actually quite funny, especially Jeff Bridges' performance and his interaction with Matt Damon.

Paramount could easily sell the movie with those two characters and the girl. It's not like The Coens haven't done comedy before, and I'd consider this more of a western comedy than anything else.

It's an easy sell, especially with Bridges appearing to be more "serious" in Tron: Legacy.

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22. "wow"
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"I'd consider this more of a western comedy than anything else."

I was NOT expecting you to say that.

That's terrific. Now I want to see the film even more.

  

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24. "^^^"
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It's certainly a funny movie. There's a lot of laugh out loud dialog (well, the stuff you catch anyway...geez there's a lot of murmuring and slurring).

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23. "Is it pretty faithful to the original? The trailers look it."
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In anticipation of the release, I just watched the original this past week. I'll be curious to see how Jeff Bridges takes on Cogburn--in the trailers, it sounds like he puts on a really effected accent, which threw me off, but hopefully it'll wear on me for the duration of the film.

EDIT: I did see some news that the Coens were more inspired by the novel, rather than the film, and one of them said he recalled seeing the original film only as a kid, but I dunno, I assume it would have been a resource when making their version--not a remake, which they emphasize, but certainly a resource.

  

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25. "RE: Is it pretty faithful to the original? The trailers look it."
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>EDIT: I did see some news that the Coens were more inspired by
>the novel, rather than the film, and one of them said he
>recalled seeing the original film only as a kid, but I dunno,
>I assume it would have been a resource when making their
>version--not a remake, which they emphasize, but certainly a
>resource.

We'll probably never find out. For adaptations, it seems like when a big director takes over, he/she almost always says that they haven't seen the original, didn't like it or didn't watch it during the making of the new one.

But I can see the Coen Bros wanting to make a completely different movie, borrowing nothing at all from the original. And really, they're far too twisted to play it by the book like that.

  

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26. "From what I understand, yes."
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I've seen a couple of reviews remarking on how faithful it is to the book, ending included...

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27. "Loved it"
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The audience I was with loathed it though. But yea it's a comedy. This film defiantly ranks high on their filmography.

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28. "That little girl killed it. She was great."
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And Bridges' accent was almost a little too thick to understand at times. Great movie, though. Beautiful scenery. Love the Coen bros.

  

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44. "Yeah, the comedy's been mentioned"
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she held her own with some seasoned actors. got to give her them propers.

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30. "I thought it was terrific."
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Even though I loved Firth and Franco, I might have to throw my Latte to Bridges. He was outstanding. Steinfeld is gonna duke it out with Leo for the Oscar-- I wasn't expecting how good she'd be. The uninformed might feel she was just saying the lines... but that's what acting is. It felt effortless to me. A beautiful job by a first-timer.

The dialogue was classic Coens. Just the way they let the scenes go, the manner in which the characters spoke, the humor in odd places... the script and acting made the film for me.

And can we PLEASE give Roger Deakins an Oscar already? Him not having one is a fucking joke.

My mini-gripes would include the bookend scene at the conclusion-- not sure how necessary it was. I felt they'd established a lot of what was revealed about Maddie before the adult one ever appeared. Also, the timing of the film's conclusion did seem a little rushed for a film that so beautifully took its time.

Those are nitpicks. This is at least a 3.5/4, and the fact that folks are saying they were disappointed just goes to show how amazing the Coens are that something like *this* can be seen as a letdown from their usual fare.

Beautifully written scenes:
The negotiation between Maddy and the trader
Rooster giving testimony
Rooster and Maddie in the cabin with the two guys
Rooster "bowing out"



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39. "you sure steinfield will be in best supporting?"
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I'm hearing she *SHOULD* and *COULD* be up for best actress, but with that field as deep as it will be with kidman, berry, swinton, portman, lawrence, etc. all in the running, she'll be bumped down to supporting and do battle with leo and/or benning and moore (sorry but neither *ONE* of then gave an award worthy performance in that clunker the KIDS ARE ALL RIGHT)...

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31. "Best movie of 2010...by far! "
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I'm a sucker for westerns and COEN Brothers though...
Damon, continues to impress.
Bridges, was magnificent.
The girl was incredible.
I don't have a single complaint; everyone brought their A-game.

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32. "There were bookends in the original and the new one (spoiler)"
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I love how in the original Maddie tells Rooster he can have a grave in her family's plot and in the remake you see her actually following through.

Nice little Easter egg for those that have seen both.

  

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34. "i expected a "big" movie and got a cool little one"
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i guess i fall into the category zootown mentioned above, because i did (at my own peril) go in expecting something on par with no country

so i can't lie that i'm disappointed in that sense

it also gets mad predictable in the third act. i know it's an adaptation and all, but again i've come to expect more from the coens

all that said, bridges and steinfeld were freaking awesome. damon deserves credit as well. loved the interactions between the three. i'll definitely be seeing it again.

  

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36. "RE: True Grit (The Coens, 2010)"
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The previews for this got me hyped as hell nigga. Make a nigga wanna get on a horse and start lighting niggas up with a six shooter 'n shit.

  

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37. "I enjoyed it (flaws included)"
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I noticed the same flaws that have already been mentioned - Josh Brolin and Barry Pepper were underutilized. The tone of the ending was ehhhh.

Steinfeld, Damon, and Bridges were absolutely phenomenal. I heard about Bridge's performance so I went into it expecting to see a great performance and he sure delivered. But I heard less about Damon and that was a nice surprise. Steinfeld was also really great and well I'm biased towards independent, fiery young women. The three leads had so much on screen chemistry.

From a Native perspective, I paid close attention to how they portrayed Native peoples in the film. I stay away from most Westerns due to the racism. I was pleased to see sofke (the hominy stew) in the film. Sofke is a very important staple dish to Choctaw people. The Native man who was hung in the opening scene w/o being able to speak his peace - I was happy to see that detail of unjust and unequal treatment. So yea I wasn't cringing at how Native people were depicted.

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40. "just saw this last night. "
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I enjoyed it. Although I felt like Brolin's character was more bumbling idiot than crafty killer. Solid performances by Bridges, Damon, girl. The ending felt a little flat but I could live with it.


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41. "Some more thoughts about the portrayal of Native people in the movie"
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So I'm still digesting this film and especially how it portrayed Native peoples. I think we're all familiar with the very racist tones that Western films have traditionally clung to. I do think this film took a step in the right direction (see my earlier reply) however there were some characters and moments that I found somewhat troubling.
The two (presumably) Choctaw kids hanging out on the front porch of the trading store. What was with Cogburn repeatedly pushing them around? A grown man harassing kids? I'm really not sure what purpose that served. If anyone has any thoughts as to what this scene is supposed to mean, please share.
Then there's the lone (presumably) Choctaw man on horseback who they gave the dead body to. The movie kept making a big deal about how they were entering the Choctaw Nation and how Cogburn was very familiar with the terrain and people there. It would've been nice to at least give this character some personality instead of a being a "stoic Indian". Who was he? What was his name? Did he welcome them onto Choctaw land?
Please feel free to add on. There was also the black servant and the young black child who worked in the stable as well as the Chinese grocery store owner.

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42. "i felt bad for laughing at that"
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but i couldn't help it. i couldn't tell if them being native factored in, or he just hated kids. given what they did with the hanging scene it probably did somehow. they did make it a point to show that mattie chose him because he was the meanest of the three marshalls. he wasn't exactly fond of her at first either.

  

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45. "I wasn't there at the time, but the depictions seemed realistic"
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and it would need to be that way for us to properly digest it.

I thought the Choctaw kids we're eggin' on that horse, n' Rooster could've taken exception to that.

Definitely felt this movie was raw, but smooth. Never felt let down by the pacing either.

But yeah, none of us were alive at that time. Or any time of real struggle but the right now, and for us to understand those things we need to be able to see them as close to how they really were as possible.

Was this a success or not? I say yes, but that's entirely on me for whatever it's worth.

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47. "He was upset with those two kids bc they were abusing the horse."
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>The two (presumably) Choctaw kids hanging out on the front
>porch of the trading store. What was with Cogburn repeatedly
>pushing them around? A grown man harassing kids? I'm really
>not sure what purpose that served. If anyone has any thoughts
>as to what this scene is supposed to mean, please share.


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57. "The two boys were torturing the donkey, so he kicked them"
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(it looked like a horse in the movie, but sounded like a donkey and was a donkey in the book)

The trader that they come across with the body is actually a boiled down character in the book that, for whatever reason, they left out in the film (likely would have slowed it down). After the shootout at the dugout, in the book, they take LaBouef and the body of the kid to a Choctaw doctor/shawmen and find out about a postal coach robbery that the Pepper gang pulled off, and they pick up the trail for them from there. I could be confusing the body situation there, but I think the doctor pays them for the kids body.

The scene, and that Maddie (therefore us) didn't hear what was said, was just to demonstrate that Cogburn did have a trust factor with the Choctaws and also how screwed up the Choctaws (and their allotment in Oklahoma) were after the Civil War.

The Coens stayed pretty close to the book but softened what were some worse moments, mainly with humor (the native being hung is treated even worse in the book...his death takes much longer). I didn't find anything faultable or overtly out-of-the-way racist about it.

  

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43. "Awesome. The last thirty minutes were visually masterful."
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*** SPOILERS, OF COURSE***



By which I mean the nighttime race to get Maddie help. I wish they had held the closeup, slow shot of their faces in the night a little longer than they did. It looked fantastical, almost science fiction-like, but to good use, re-establishing the mythology of the west. And just stunning for my tastes.

Up to that point I really enjoyed the film. As with others, if I were to nitpick, having just watched the old version last week, there were some comic moments that, knowing the Coens, I would have liked for them to revisit and rewrite. The exchange between Maddie and the pony guy, while good in this one, was longer and perhaps better in the first. I also preferred how Le Boeuf met Maddie in the first one compared to this.

But I stand corrected, it seems clear to me that they did not revisit the first film at all; without having read the novel, I assume the significant changes they made, including the bookend conclusion, showed a fidelity to the novel.

Acting was superb.

Re: race--we get a far more racist Cogburn this time around than in the first film. Interestingly, I guess, but I also assume these were in the novel, so not so interesting, except for how these scenes disturb the viewer's identification with Maddie's own identification with Cogburn.

I actually think gender is more interesting in the film--here's a question: did anyone else think that it looked as if in the last scene before the bookend, when Cogburn fell to the ground with Maddie in his arms, unable to make it all the way to the cabin, that when he slumped over, he was angled to *kiss* her? I forget the voiceover at that moment, but I remember it might have implied a certain kind of feeling. And they cut away just before anything was revealed.

I do think it's intentionally ambiguous. It would parallel Le Boeuf's own incestuous moment earlier on, when he thought about kissing her. It's also striking that in the bookend, she confesses that she never married, which could suggest a certain kind of feeling toward Cogburn. So she lost her father and then her surrogate father / lover.

Which actually takes away from the "feminist" overtones of the film. Hers is the kind of feminism that measures itself up according to masculinity--her name is somewhat androgynous, she takes her father's place, wears his clothes, inherits his rifle and saddle, is distant and tough even at his coffin, etc. And she rides alongside Cogburn and Le Boeuf. It's a feminist tale in this regard--obviously, she is the one displaying the true grit.

But it seems to me that if we take seriously the incestuous narrative, which seems transgressive in a way that the Coens play up and the original doesn't, the transgression actually diminishes or works against the feminist reading of the story. Because if it is a love story, then she is returned to her supportive role, whether as wife, daughter, or sidekick. Her triumph is diminished by the loss of men and emptiness. The film ends not with celebration, but loss, mourning, and lack of fulfillment.

I guess there could be a certain kind of feminine grit revealed in this way, which isn't really equivalent to feminism, and it wouldn't be quite as radical as her transvestism, which isn't that radical these days, either.

PS. I'm not saying the novel or either film is trying to be feminist, and I'm certainly not reducing the aesthetic pleasure of the story and imagery to politicking. Just pondering some of the interpretive dilemmas at stake when certain cultural questions are raised. It's a gorgeous film, especially the last thirty minutes.

  

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46. "thanks for this reply. definite food for thought."
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can't say I agree with all your conclusions, but some of moments and themes you've pointed out will help me see the film in new light.

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49. "why do you keep using the term incestous? "
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when it be more correct to say pedophilia(c)?

  

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56. "just following the idea that Cogburn is a surrogate father"
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but yeah, pedophilic works, too

>when it be more correct to say pedophilia(c)?

  

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64. "ahh I got u. "
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59. "more like ephebophiliac given Mad's age."
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48. "Great movie. minus the epilogue. "
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50. "I saw this by mistake..."
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and by mistake I mean, we went to see one movie but it was sold out and my girl wanted to see this instead...so we went to this.

I was ready to go to sleep at the start with the older woman talking...mainly because I am not a fan of westerns and was in no way interested. however, as soon as Mattie pops on film, I got captivated. She was one slick tongue girl

I think Jeff bridges is the real star though. Loved his character and how well he captured the emotion of being the mean drunk bounty hunter.

there is not much more to say besides what was already said.

loved the end with the horse running his ass off, then Rooster trying to run. I was surprisingly pleased...rated it an 8 but would probably never watch it again.

it's not my type of movie.

  

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51. "solid movie. bridges and steinfeld killed it. "
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52. "loved how they had her ride off into the sunset at the end "
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very cliche, I know, but as a fan of westerns-I thought it was a nice tribute

  

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53. "jeff bridges killed it."
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In fact, I think all the actors were well cast. The ending was a bit soft for me, but I enjoyed it and left feeling satisfied.

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54. "I liked it"
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i have my jeff bridges and brolin biases of course

but the main character of mattie ross was excellently done!

barry pepper was also awesome

i almost didn't recognize him

they minimized the minority if not just avoided the issue
the jury is out on that aspect
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55. "RE: True Grit (The Coens, 2010)"
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Loved it. Like usual The Coen Brothers are masters at character studies.The audience is but only forced to care about the characters and their ordeal. The main trio is captivating and engaging, I think that Brolin and Pepper usually shine better when playing 2nd string and for the time they're on camera they command attention, I still think it's long overdue for Pepper to helm his own big budget blockbuster.

For those who complain about the ending, Isn't it like a Coen brothers staple by now? They usually end their movies with a dry thump. This one ends pretty Hollywood-like compared To No Country and Burn After.

Definitely one of my favorite movies this year.

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60. "RE: True Grit (The Coens, 2010)"
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Nothing special. Nothing really exciting. Wait for DVD.

Had potential for much more because of the availability to really utilize the relationship between Jeff Bridges' character and the girl, but they only flirted with it. The movie lacked its own title...True Grit. There really was none. Well, the little girl had some, but she was not developed very well in the movie. We never got an idea of why she was so determined to avenge her father's murder. There was no look into their relationship at all. The characters were all very interesting. All of them were. But there were no relationships or sense of purpose for them.

And the racist "Lil Blackie" thing was just unnecessary. If ya wanna call that coincidental, please! A little black boy gives her the horse and she says, "i think i'll call him Lil Blackie" and the little black boy says..."i think that's a good name". Are you serious?? wow.

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Sometimes, a movie is just a movie. You work hard for your money.

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61. "good performances, disjointed outcome (spoilers)"
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i think its another movie about how told old west died and dissipated.

jeff bridges plays a man who is the old west gun and whiskey toting lawful outlaw.. the girl is charmed by his demeanor and looks to him with a kind of reverence.. matt damon plays the new generation of law man who is much "cleaner" so to speak but not quite as skilled... we also see the old west dying by how jeff bridges was being attacked in court.. the government eventually takes everything over... etc.

the end shows us how the old west has completely died.. you see that it has become a stage attraction... industrialization and the government has taken everything over... there has been assimilation.. we see this by how the vivacious little girl becomes a bitter old woman, staring outward from the train into the big city.. and no longer the saloon... all the passion in her heart dead with her hero's... that's why she so angrily says "keep sitting you trash" to the man who wouldn't get up in respect to her dead friend. she burries him with her family. she remembers.

yeah so.. i think that it's great but.. the execution just didn't come together for me. i think there could have been a bit more excitement throughout the movie and more purposeful and meaningful conversations... i was a bit bored at some points... and the end and all the messages i got came so suddenly and seemingly without any transition... its like she woke up and everything was gone. perhaps that was the whole point anyways. all in all a good movie.

  

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62. "i don't think she ended up bitter at all"
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i think her outcome is a direct reflection of who she was as a child.

Seeing the way she handled her affairs as a youth, it would have been a disappointment to see her become some homebody raising a family. In fact...if it wasn't for her gender, she may very well have BECOME Rooster Cogburn in another life.

I think this was highlighted in the exchange when she went to visit Rooster @ the Wild West Review. If you ever thought she had lost any of her sass along the way....she proved she was still the same individual at that point.

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63. "well... yeah i can see that.."
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in a way.. she was proving all along that she was the one with the true grit... i got that part.. but i still think she demonstrates a type of sadness and bitterness at how the old west died... that's just my opinion though...

  

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65. "Enjoyable"
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Can't say anything about the performances that hasn't already been said. Everyone completely nailed it, the dialogue was razor sharp and I LOVED the cinematography.

I didn't mind the stuff with the villains as much as others. Both in Maddie and LeBeouf's mind, Tom Cheney was made out to be something more than he really was. IMO that's just the way your mind creates legends out of someone you've heard of, but never really met. He killed Maddie's father, so he's basically evil incarnate to her. He's the one LeBeouf hasn't been able to catch, so Cheney's his white whale. Turns out he was neither of those things, just an outlaw like hundreds of others at the time.

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66. "RE:should have gave the villains more to do"
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but this film is still a winner.
Grade A-

  

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68. "Last line of the movie?"
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Can anyone post Mattie's last few lines of the movie... something about time slipping away?

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69. "Another crazy universe....."
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This movie was really focused on language. Lots of dialect-hopping. The slang and terminology from the script is a mix of different eras. In some places....this technique is used for extreme hilarity.

I laughed my way through the last 45 minutes of this movie. I gotta feeling that this is the funniest movie of the year. Even better than Fubar 2.

  

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70. "oh yes, it was really well done"
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71. "i thoroughly enjoyed it...."
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...i really don't have a problem with anything in the film....

...some people said they were upset that Brolin's character was built up to be this big bad, but in the end was clearly NOT....i honestly thought that was a great thing...it's often reality....the legend vs the reality...which is sort of an undercutting theme...the two lawmen have their own legends, but the reality is more ambiguous...this little girl looks so innocent, but is truly a force to reckoned with in her own right....again, i liked it....

...the end? yeah, it's a little funny when you first think about it, but with more time it makes more sense...she spent an important time in her life with that man...she holds him to high regard, and she will alwas feel like she owes him..she will always care for him..he saved her a few times over and helped her track down the man who killed her dad...and WHY would she ever get married?? unless her character changes after Cogburn leaves her, she has shown no indication that she was interested in bowing to the will of ANY man...she likes things her own way, and has no problem working to handle her own buisness...at that time, and in this one, truly independent women aren't the kind to just settle down like that...


...as to some of the other things, i think Cogburn cares about this girl like she was his own kin, as he's admitted he has no one...BUT, he can't stay with her...he's done his job, and she is safe, and he is more satisfied with the thoughts of that than with the money....he wants her safe...the thought of her being hurt and close to death probably scared more than he'd ever admit...that scares him too...if he'd kept/raised his son, he's want him to be like this girl....i don't see the pedo stuff at all, just a man who hasn't cared about anything in years finding that he can still do so, and being scared by the concept...


again, this movie was damn good....

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72. "Are you guys fucking kidding me?? "
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This movie was 'B' movie status, just missing
the comedy


There was absolutely nothing compelling about
this movie, at all, save the young girl's cute
one-liners every once in a while

If you're going to have a shitty storyline at least
create some interactions between characters that
I give a fuck about.


Jeff Bridges was boring, grumpy and bumbling the whole
movie. His character was not interesting, had no depth
and I gave not two fucks about him.

Matt Damon was....what was he exactly? Like, who the
fuck was his character exactly?

It literally gets no acclaim at all if the Coen
brothers don't do it.

I literally think the Coen brothers just made this
movie because they were bored...they gave nary a
fuck about this movie

STOP guys...start thinking for yourself and evaluating
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