Anyone else see this? Just got back from it. Jennifer Lawrence was incredible. I'm looking at her IMDB page, the biggest thing she did before this was the Bill Engvall Show? LOL, this was some starmaking shit. I'm sure some people are going to think she was too smart/tough/cool under pressure to be believable, but it worked for me. She has to skin squirrels for food, people from that background have to be either tough or on meth.

Really dug the cinematography, too. The ugliness of it all was kind of beautiful. Maybe the best film I've seen this year (still haven't seen Toy Story 3 though.)

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Definitely a great film. I thought the girl gave a really solid performance but the real surprise was John Hawkes. Up until now, I only saw him play meek characters (Sol from Deadwood, Kenny Powers' brother) and he was really scary as Teardrop.

Beautifully shot, excellent score (Hardscrabble Elegy is a gorgeous song) and lots of memorable scenes.

It had some truly great moments throughout. John Fuckin' Hawkes. What a performance from that guy. And of course the buzz surruonding Jennifer Lawrence is well deserved. Sublime, the both of them.

Said a little more about the flick in the What Did You Watch post. I wish more people saw this film. I found it to be an expertly crafted "genre" pic. In a just world, this film would get several Oscar noms.

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absolutely beautiful transfer.

will peep this weekend.

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This is generally a slow, quiet movie. Tense, but subtle. I'd compare it more to something like Wendy and Lucy as opposed to other indie crime thrillers.

I think it works best as a look into a world that's very foreign, yet very much a part of our country. Not that it's poverty porn or anything. Characters are treated with dignity and nothing seems over-exaggerated to make you think "People really live like that?"

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Frozen River and Wendy and Lucy, off the top.

cause I fucking *LOVED* Frozen River (Melissa Leo AND Misty Upsham were *OUTSTANDING* in that movie)

i will have to rent it on netflix pronto

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>cause I fucking *LOVED* Frozen River (Melissa Leo AND Misty
>Upsham were *OUTSTANDING* in that movie)

They were, but I think Jennifer Lawrence and John Hawkes' performances are a level above the Frozen River duo. While Hawkes has a small part, he gave one of my all-time fave performances.

great performances

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you really got to hand it to them. terrific flick.

beautifully shot.

Great acting.

Was terrified for ol' (young) girl when she got caught by the local badasses.

Him and Lawrence were both incredible. And Dale Dickey... Christ, she was creepy.

The cinematography was terrific, as Marauder stated. A real dark beauty to the griminess of it. The sound design was spectacular-- the crunching of the leaves, the heightened effects when she was examining the blown-up lab, and the intermittent uses of the sad score.

This movie takes a female character, and makes her neither the soft heroine in need of help, nor is she the hard-ass I'll-get-my-way-or-else girl. She has so many layers, and I feel like most heroines usually don't have this kind of dimension-- they lean on "big moments" to get their messages across, or to make "points" about the character and why she is this way. Yet while maintaining all of this, it never devolves into becoming a slow, tedious character study-- it still serves a story, a story that Hollywood could have easily made into an action-packed thriller, but instead, Granik keeps it at a simmer. (Sponge, have you seen Down to the Bone, her first full-length? Has anyone here seen that?)

This is a must-see. And while those of you are mentioning its pacing, I didn't think it crawled at all. And I was someone who (sorry, Sponge) was definitely bored by Wendy and Lucy. The story is very compelling, and the uncertainty of what's going to happen to Ree and the kids is enough to keep most ADD-riddled viewers engaged, I think.

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Farmiga is excellent in it (her best performance so far; she could end up like Jeff Bridges and quietly become one of if not the best in American film acting), and the film does an exceptional job in following a character's struggle with drug addiction.

Wendy and Lucy is first-rate filmmaking and topically relevant. Watch it again if only to appreciate Michelle Williams' marvelous work and Reichardt's directorial talent in minimalism.

>Wendy and Lucy is first-rate filmmaking and topically
>relevant. Watch it again if only to appreciate Michelle
>Williams' marvelous work and Reichardt's directorial talent in
>minimalism.

...and I understand what's being said by the film. I just didn't find myself very compelled by the main character or her plight, and thus struggled to find reasons to stay engaged. I don't think that the character is unsympathetic or that it's a plight which I wouldn't normally feel for, I just felt the film moved so far into minimalism (all of the shots of staring out a window, the long stretches of silence where nothing is really happening) that it was almost asking me to disengage.

The reason why something like Winter's Bone or Frozen River works better for me is I get a sense of the world they're living in and who everyone is around the main character and what's at stake if they lose what they lose. Wendy and Lucy is the type of film I can watch and understand what the filmmaker is doing and why they made the choices they make... but for me, it's more of an exercise to be appreciated rather than actually engaged in or loved.

Perhaps it's my deficiency as an audience member to fail to be grasped by a story like that... but I don't think it's the tempo of the film, since I usually love most of the slow(er) films this board (you especially) recommends. Perhaps later in life I'll re-examine it and it will strike more of a chord with me. But Winter's Bone hit me from its very despair-filled, soulful opening sequence.

I do want to see Down to the Bone though. Farmiga is definitely one of my favorite actresses working today.

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>I just felt the
>film moved so far into minimalism (all of the shots of staring
>out a window, the long stretches of silence where nothing is
>really happening) that it was almost asking me to disengage.

I think those moments were necessary to portray the character and her struggle. She's jobless and traveling, looking for work; there will be idle moments, etc. And those moments brought me closer to sympathize with how she must be feeling. Not having those moments (i.e., details) in the film is just having meat and potatoes but no seasoning. That's where movie The Road came up short. The novel went into detail into how damn hard it was to survive moment to moment in a post-apocalyptic world. The film left in the big moments but left out the little details that make stories fully fleshed and realized. God lives in the details especially for a sparse, small scale film.

>The reason why something like Winter's Bone or Frozen River
>works better for me is I get a sense of the world they're
>living in and who everyone is around the main character and
>what's at stake if they lose what they lose.

For me, Wendy and Lucy accomplishes that. Not to the extent that Winter's Bone does with a community which it is able to do by having more characters. In that sense, W&L is closer to Frozen River.

>>I just felt the
>>film moved so far into minimalism (all of the shots of
>staring
>>out a window, the long stretches of silence where nothing is
>>really happening) that it was almost asking me to disengage.
>
>
>I think those moments were necessary to portray the character
>and her struggle. She's jobless and traveling, looking for
>work; there will be idle moments, etc. And those moments
>brought me closer to sympathize with how she must be feeling.
>Not having those moments (i.e., details) in the film is just
>having meat and potatoes but no seasoning. That's where movie
>The Road came up short. The novel went into detail into how
>damn hard it was to survive moment to moment in a
>post-apocalyptic world. The film left in the big moments but
>left out the little details that make stories fully fleshed
>and realized. God lives in the details especially for a
>sparse, small scale film.

And I totally get all of that. I honestly do. It's just one of those films that hits my brain but not my heart. I understand the desired objective, and I'm sure Reichardt (spelling?) made exactly the film she wanted to make. And I definitely didn't want any "big moments." But I think there's a fine line between a film that cooks a delicious whole meal and a film that takes a very basic meal and sprinkles in a ton of seasoning. If that makes sense.

W&L seemed more seasoning than meat and potatoes to me, to use your analogy. And while the details are SO important (they make Winter's Bone), I think most films need some meat and potatoes. And while I see that there's some subtle meat and potatoes going on in W&L about relevant subject matter... maybe I just prefer my meat a tad meatier.

Alright, enough of this metaphor.

>>The reason why something like Winter's Bone or Frozen River
>>works better for me is I get a sense of the world they're
>>living in and who everyone is around the main character and
>>what's at stake if they lose what they lose.
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>For me, Wendy and Lucy accomplishes that. Not to the extent
>that Winter's Bone does with a community which it is able to
>do by having more characters. In that sense, W&L is closer to
>Frozen River.

Yeah, I'll agree with that. I think having that whole community helped not just introduce me to a character's struggles, but showed me the complexities of the world around her and the gender roles being filled and switched under the table and switched back again. W&L really just focuses on Wendy. Which is fine, it's a different film. But it may explain why Winter's Bone felt like a more fully immersing experience for me.

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>And I totally get all of that. I honestly do. It's just one of
>those films that hits my brain but not my heart. I understand
>the desired objective, and I'm sure Reichardt (spelling?) made
>exactly the film she wanted to make.

So, I understand and can relate.

Great film. The pacing was perfect, the acting top notch, and the dialogue was memorable. "I already told you no with my mouth".

I really loved the scene with the family creating music together, and when the women beat up the protagonist. Not to add the lil black and white film before the climax was incredible symbolism.

At the very least this film deserves noms for trophies

Other than that this flick didn't do much for me. Maybe it's cause I already knew the ending. It's not bad but I expected it to be a bit better.

Great performances, great shots, excellent atmosphere with a compelling story.

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there was only 2 other people in the theater, this movie is for people who love films. I would not recommend it to the average joe cause they would not appreciate it. The pace of the movie isn't slow but seems to move like real life. Most of the actors in this movie come from the area they filmed in and most of them were first timers. This movie was so real to me, there wasn't a bad actor in it. Also too many times in movies do we see the face of poverty as being black but in this movie they were white and it felt so different to see it portrayed this way.

good story, not sure about replay value but definitely a great story and great performances from hawkes and lawrence
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