..aside from flyin backwards and the fact he told Lois at sall in Supes 2, the first three were str8 to me...drunk supes fighting himself ALONE makes 3 great....
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24. "Superman I was great until the last few minutes" In response to Reply # 14
The characterizations and situations are generally in line with how Duperman was presented in the comics in the 1960s and 1970s, save for the expected simplification of the mythos. I think it's universally agreed that the whole flying around the world backwards thing was bullshit.
Superman II as released in 1980 was a bit of a mess. OK, a lot of a mess. The Richard Donner re-edit is better, but the film as a whole is still not *that* good
Granted, I love both films, but I cn take a step back and see their flaws as well.
30. "i watched them for the first time a few months ago" In response to Reply # 3
i SERIOUSLY didn't understand the hype. and it wasn't just the effects being outdated, i'm pretty lenient on that, but the acting was so wooden. the only thing redeeming was gene hackman was funny half the time, but then he was awful the other half.
22. "Why can't they expand the idea of what the franchise can be?" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Feb-09-10 06:25 PM by rorschach
Why does a trilogy have to follow each other chronologically? Can't it just be three excellent movies about Superman that tie into each other?
I always felt that they could elevate Superman a la TDK just as long as they didn't take a myopic approach by trying to make Supes 'more edgy'. Superman doesn't need to be edgy. They can make a Superman movie that explores his alienation and savior-like status among other things as long as they do one thing: give Superman someone to fight other than Lex. People want to see him fight someone--physically.
EDIT: Another thing--it would be nice if someone slipped the execs and writers copies of Action Comics #775 as inspiration.
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27. "no, it doesn't and it wont ever really work" In response to Reply # 25 Wed Feb-10-10 10:27 AM by B9
What makes the ones that do work are character flaws in the hero and general depth in the "alter ego" lifestyles. When you get past the Lois Lane and "sent from a distant planet", what else is there to really explore about Superman? How Nolan will possibly make it interesting in live action form will be a challenge. Really, the most cinematically rewarding parts of this character have always been the youth portion. After that, it gets really bland quickly.
29. "Have you ever read Last Days of Krypton?" In response to Reply # 25
>There are alot of great angles the comic uses that make some >great superman stories (in particular, I love when Lex is >smart+pro human). >
by Kevin J. Anderson? it's not a graphic novel but I thought it was a really good story. i'm not a huge superman fan at all but it was an interesting look at the back story of Krypton and the whole Superman mythos
26. "They'll have to kill him or come up with something" In response to Reply # 0
off the damn wall. Just like the comics, his death or teaming him with Batman it was the only thing that brought attention back to Superman.
What I don't want to happen is a Twilight Saga'd out Superman, and you KNOW the studio wants that. Angsty Stupid Clark Kent... No. Please don't.
No more origin stories please, Superman has been around since 1938, we know who is he and where he's from but do we care? Batman is more interesting because he's resourceful, smart and he's human. We know why he's doing what he's doing. Superman is just an alien refugee who is the SOURCE of ALL his problems. Superman is an god-like idiot boy scout fool who I thought was cool as a child, but as an adult he's not that interesting. My SO's into Smallville and i watch it for a bit and doze off...he's boring and stupid.
28. "Flashbacks are more than enough" In response to Reply # 26
>No more origin stories please, Superman has been around since >1938, we know who is he and where he's from
Have it all take place in the same universe as Nolan's Batman (a reference or quick shot of Batman is enough for the first flick) but just start with Clark coming to Metropolis. I can't sit through another 30-45 minutes of Ma & Pa Kent.
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31. "no more Batman movies!!!!!!" In response to Reply # 28
please, its stupid to try for another round. It can only go downhill after Dark Knight, part three of any trilogy is never to best addition. I think they should focus on other DC heroes like Green Arrow and Black Lightning.
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