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Whiteout
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"On the idea of Fire in Space:"
Tue Jan-26-10 02:36 PM by Whiteout

  

          

Working under the premise of the human understanding of fire we know, as common knowledge, that fire will not exist in an environment lacking oxygen, like Outer Space for example (and in some people's heads).

So why...

in every piece of cinema I can think of featuring an explosion in Outer Space, is there fire of some kind?

It makes no sense, and as a viewer, I always expect it not to happen...

but then it does... and I get upset...

I can't help but wonder what the fuck gives.

Is this a conscious decision on the part of directors to emphasize the tragedy?

going on 40 years after Star Wars now...

You'd think someone would have caught on by now.

What say y'all?

. . .
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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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I ain't no scientist
Jan 26th 2010
1
me neither
Jan 26th 2010
3
^
Jan 26th 2010
7
      should it explode or implode?
Jan 26th 2010
9
           why would imploding make more sense?
Jan 26th 2010
20
                basically air and fire in a bubble
Jan 27th 2010
22
                     ...
Jan 27th 2010
24
                          I'm not even approaching it scientifically past fire/oxygen thing
Jan 27th 2010
34
                               RE: I'm not even approaching it scientifically past fire/oxygen thing
Jan 27th 2010
39
                                    you're just not high enough
Jan 27th 2010
41
                                         lol, I guess not
Jan 28th 2010
43
I'm more annoyed by the sound effects.
Jan 26th 2010
2
as long as the creatures have three titties
Jan 26th 2010
4
that bothers the shit outta me too!
Jan 26th 2010
10
Which recent space movie did cool things with silent destruction of ship...
Jan 26th 2010
18
      yep
Jan 27th 2010
32
On: The idea of every human being as white in 'Lord of the Rings'
Jan 26th 2010
5
you mean every "good" human being in LOTR is white
Jan 26th 2010
6
what colour was saruman the white?
Jan 26th 2010
15
      Did I say every white human being in LOTR was good?
Jan 27th 2010
29
      saruman's not a human being.
Jan 29th 2010
49
just had to postjack on some racebait unrelated...
Jan 26th 2010
8
I think if fits
Jan 26th 2010
12
      you right
Jan 26th 2010
16
don't even get me started on that bullshit.
Jan 26th 2010
11
This has bugged me since I was about 7
Jan 26th 2010
13
it has to be done tho.
Jan 28th 2010
47
the books were written as English mythology.
Jan 26th 2010
14
I'm not being a boho activist about it.
Jan 27th 2010
36
      yeah, fair enough.
Jan 27th 2010
38
apparently minorities don't exist in the future or far off worlds
Jan 27th 2010
26
Oxygen from the destroyed ship?
Jan 26th 2010
17
Its wrong but its one of those things that are standard
Jan 26th 2010
19
But the shit looks cool.
Jan 27th 2010
21
on the idea of nitpicking:
Jan 27th 2010
23
basically
Jan 27th 2010
25
both you do it, too
Jan 27th 2010
35
People with a firm understanding of what's so
Jan 27th 2010
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      but nobody here has been to space
Jan 28th 2010
44
           You dont' have to go to the North Pole to know there's no penguins there
Jan 28th 2010
45
                but i dont have to care either. its cold. theres ice.
Jan 29th 2010
50
Sunshine got it right
Jan 27th 2010
27
"it's gonna be cold"*wraps self in insulation, fires self into space*
Jan 27th 2010
40
      Now why'd you gotta go & do that? Tryin to make a point (c)Fenster
Jan 27th 2010
42
Honestly, though, here's the real answer:
Jan 27th 2010
28
A classic article.
Jan 27th 2010
31
How was there fire on Pandora?
Jan 27th 2010
33
We don't know there wasn't oxygen
Jan 27th 2010
37
HOW CAN SEAN CONNERY BE A RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTAIN
Jan 28th 2010
46
Sean Connery can play one part only:
Jan 28th 2010
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he was also an Egyptian Spaniard that sounded like groundskeeper Willie
Jan 29th 2010
51

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1. "I ain't no scientist"
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But if oxygen escaped the ruptured hull of an exploding space ship, could it provide fuel for a quick burst of flame in space?

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3. "me neither"
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but I believe there'd be just enough flame to light this bowl.

That's the thing though. How oxygen and fire would move in space isn't really common knowledge.

Therefore, that aspect of it should be ripe for creative manipulation.

But nope, what you always see...

campfires in space..

really, though

. . .
psn: sirius_fruits

but that shit's stupid though.

  

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7. "^"
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This is the only place it's acceptable, and even then it has to be as shortlived as the actual process of oxygen escaping. In one of the starwars prequels I remember you'd just see ships sitting in space, falling and burning.

Shit like that just irritates me.

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9. "should it explode or implode?"
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I'm thinking either would be cool.

Implode makes more sense.

Any 'burn' is going to happen in such a tight space and it's going to extinguish itself quickly.

You could do some interesting things with that either way.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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20. "why would imploding make more sense?"
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Space is a vaccuum, which means its pressure is less than the pressure of any pressurized cabin. A spaceship would explode if it was to do either. As oxygen excapes (as it would) and it was aflame then it would burn, though for a short period of time.

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22. "basically air and fire in a bubble"
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the fire would burn the bubble of air until the bubble was smaller and smaller... thus implosion, barring whatever kind of drive you got powering your ship.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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24. "..."
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I think you're gonna have to resign your air of scientific superiority now...that really made no physical sense.

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34. "I'm not even approaching it scientifically past fire/oxygen thing"
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I think directors should have more fun with it than they do.

But that idea I gave makes as much sense as the standard.

Like I said, I'm no scientist, and I have really no idea how oxygen would react if instantaneously released into a vacuum after the vessel that contained it was ignited somehow.

The fire will burn in the presence of oxygen particles that are close enough to facilitate it.. but I have no idea how the oxygen will disperse, if it would tend toward itself, or disperse evenly into the vacuum... the only one of those that seems like they would allow for fire is the former, because the oxygen and fire are all in one physical space, and the fire would burn until all the oxygen had been used up...

If this is happening within the confines of a spaceship, it just seems to me like the burn would go in on itself until all oxygen is depleted and then nothing... which in my mind is the definition of imploding.

But I don't know shit about shit and I could be wrong.

Still doesn't invalidate OP point .

. . .
psn: sirius_fruits

but that shit's stupid though.

  

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39. "RE: I'm not even approaching it scientifically past fire/oxygen thing"
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>But that idea I gave makes as much sense as the standard.

It actually makes less sense, because as we've seen in this thread there's at least possible justifications for the existence of fire in space. What you described has no reasonable explanation or precedent.


>Still doesn't invalidate OP point .

If you're acting superior because the movies use a convention that doesn't make any sense, you can't really suggest a solution that makes even less sense. All I'm saying.

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41. "you're just not high enough"
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>>But that idea I gave makes as much sense as the standard.
>
>It actually makes less sense, because as we've seen in this
>thread there's at least possible justifications for the
>existence of fire in space. What you described has no
>reasonable explanation or precedent.
>
>
>>Still doesn't invalidate OP point .
>
>If you're acting superior because the movies use a convention
>that doesn't make any sense, you can't really suggest a
>solution that makes even less sense. All I'm saying.

Well, yes, I can. Just apparently look stupid in the process, which I'm okay with.

The point is we have no idea how this chemical process acts in a possibly endless vacuum.

Because you're so used to the idea of fire as open flame, of course that makes more sense. But I'm advocating being creative with it simply for the fact that you have no idea.

. . .
psn: sirius_fruits

but that shit's stupid though.

  

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43. "lol, I guess not"
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>The point is we have no idea how this chemical process acts in
>a possibly endless vacuum.

Well, I don't know if "we" is the right pronoun, lol

>Because you're so used to the idea of fire as open flame, of
>course that makes more sense. But I'm advocating being
>creative with it simply for the fact that you have no idea.

Well, I do, but I like the mentality that if you're gonna fuck something up and make something blatantly inaccurate, you ought to at least be creative with it. It would be cool to see that happen somehow, and maybe you could make it happen in the right situation.

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2. "I'm more annoyed by the sound effects."
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But of course when you're considering a medium imbued with faster-than-light travel (somehow avoiding the relativistic paradoxes associated with it), interbreeding between creatures from different planets, automatic language translation, artificial gravity, time travel (which you'd think would involve the aforementioned paradoxes of faster-than-light travel, but usually doesn't), escape from black holes, and so on, you eventually just have to accept that the space opera genre isn't meant to be very closely related to the behavior of the real world.

  

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4. "as long as the creatures have three titties"
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we good...


but the fire thing was always just one of those things that irked me, even as a youngin'.

. . .
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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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10. "that bothers the shit outta me too!"
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I thought I was the only one.

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18. "Which recent space movie did cool things with silent destruction of ship..."
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Was it Star Trek?

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32. "yep"
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They warped right into a bunch of ships coming apart.

  

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5. "On: The idea of every human being as white in 'Lord of the Rings'"
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n/m


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6. "you mean every "good" human being in LOTR is white"
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The human bad guys from the Southron lands are dark-skinned. Naturally.

Just like in Narnia. There, they even worship an Allah stand-in. Naturally.

  

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15. "what colour was saruman the white?"
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29. "Did I say every white human being in LOTR was good?"
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49. "saruman's not a human being."
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8. "just had to postjack on some racebait unrelated..."
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when you saw the 'white' in the screenname..

not that you ain't right with the point you're making.

I guess the connection is... Fuck White Media... and... they stupid... Avatar was great, though.

. . .
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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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12. "I think if fits"
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Basically, improbable shit taht keeps happening in movies although we SHOULD know better.

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16. "you right"
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it rolls, all right.

kinda miopic about the fire thing.

. . .
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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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11. "don't even get me started on that bullshit."
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13. "This has bugged me since I was about 7"
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"Hey, how do all the aliens know how to speak English? Like, ALL OF THEM."

Shit, that bugged me out when I was watching fucking Voltron. How the fuck is some purple-skinned space prince from the Calphalon-1 galaxy speaking perfect English? And why are there so many white people in this Japanese cartoon?

  

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47. "it has to be done tho."
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you'd be surprised at how many people just don't like reading subtitles. on that "woah i'm just tryin to watch some tv i aint come to read a book and shit"

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14. "the books were written as English mythology."
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*shrug*

  

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36. "I'm not being a boho activist about it. "
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Just pointing out weird shit in movies that
we just have to accept, just like explosions
in outer space

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38. "yeah, fair enough."
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26. "apparently minorities don't exist in the future or far off worlds"
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that is one of my biggest gripes with sci-fi the medium and syfy the channel.

- u already know

  

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17. "Oxygen from the destroyed ship?"
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Everybody's got opinions on the way you're living but see they can't fill your shoes... Life is made of half-illusions... forty percent confusion, whatever's left I'm using... to keep myself from losing, yeah.

  

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19. "Its wrong but its one of those things that are standard "
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cos audiences wouldn't be wowed by a silent flame-less explosion. As a biologist i get the gas face whenever some bad biology is used to explain something but its there just as standard to pad out the plot.

  

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21. "But the shit looks cool."
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23. "on the idea of nitpicking:"
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WHO CARES?!

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25. "basically"
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"i smack clowns with nouns, punch herbs with verbs..."

  

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35. "both you do it, too"
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You just feel superior 'cause your focus isn't so fucking nerdy.

Carry on.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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30. "People with a firm understanding of what's so"
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Take something you firmly understand, like the sound of a raindrop falling into a pool of water.

You know the sound goes "bloop" or whatever, because you have a strong understanding of what sound that makes. It always has made that sound, and always will.

Now imagine it's a movie convention that whenever a raindrop hits water it makes a fart sound. It doesn't make a fart sound for any real reason, it's just that that's how movies have always made raindrops sound.

You'd probably be bothered by that completely arbitrary lack of realism that people choose to include in the movie.

So now, maybe you're not somebody with a firm understanding of chemistry and physics. For you, a burning spaceship might seem normal, why not? That's cool, enjoy your movies. But for us, that shit is as ridiculous as raindrops farting.

This post is for us.

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44. "but nobody here has been to space"
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so if you want to have fire and noise and aliens, i say go ahead with it. basically, it's like this. if a movie is portraying a place you've never been to, like say los angeles, you go along with it. a character drives from the pasadena to LAX in 30 minutes just in time to make the last flight. fine. but anyone who lives in los angeles would be like, there's no way dude is gonna make it to LAX all the way from pasadena at 4pm on a tuesday in 30 minutes. if you've been to L.A., it's mildly annoying and takes you out of the movie for a minute. if you haven't, who cares how far pasadena is from the airport? all you care about is the story, whether the guy gets there on time and makes his flight. basically, what y'all are doing is nitpicking and getting annoyed as if you've been to space. you haven't. so shut up.

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45. "You dont' have to go to the North Pole to know there's no penguins there"
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50. "but i dont have to care either. its cold. theres ice."
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i can live w/ there being penguins there in a movie.

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27. "Sunshine got it right"
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I think

  

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40. ""it's gonna be cold"*wraps self in insulation, fires self into space*"
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*reaches other ship alive*

They got a lot wrong though, lol.

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42. "Now why'd you gotta go & do that? Tryin to make a point (c)Fenster"
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28. "Honestly, though, here's the real answer: "
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*dead* @ the photo of the writer.


http://www.theonion.com/content/news/sci_fi_writer_attributes


Science & Technology
Sci-Fi Writer Attributes Everything Mysterious To 'Quantum Flux'

ROLLA, MO—A reading of Gabriel Fournier's The Eclipse Of Infinity reveals that the new science-fiction novel makes more than 80 separate references to "quantum flux," a vaguely defined force the author uses to advance the plot, resolve conflict as needed, and account for dozens of glaring inconsistencies.

The strange force is used to explain everything from time travel to why everyone in the novel can understand aliens.

"I'm really excited about this latest book—there's action, adventure, drama, and a little bit of something for everyone," said Fournier, who decided to introduce the narrative device after realizing that the galactic ambassador vaporized in chapter two needed to be alive a lot longer. "And, of course, there's something I call quantum flux, which is like the binding force behind everything in the universe. Plus, it can cause time travel. And it's an energy source, too."

In Fournier's novel, the idea that particles of energy can appear suddenly out of nowhere is used to explain events that might otherwise seem random, such as how a starship achieves light speed despite the total destruction of its engines in battle, why a loyal first officer suddenly decides to spy on behalf of the aliens who murdered his family, and what became of the security captain whose Southern accent was getting annoying to work with.

"This is a huge oversimplification, but you can think of it as The Matrix times a million," Fournier said. "I use quantum flux to explore crucial questions about the nature of our universe, but also to probe basic human experiences we can all relate to. In my novel, as in life, sometimes things don't quite work out the way you planned."
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The book's cover depicts Quantum Flux in the vacuum of deep space, a phenomenon readers later learn can be harnessed to open wormholes or provide eternal youth.

At the beginning of The Eclipse Of Infinity, a catastrophic quantum flux event on a nearby moon is threatening to destroy the planet Magnus 9. When the planet's shields suddenly become inoperable due to a quantum flux surge, the inhabitants frantically evacuate. At the end of the first chapter, the novel's protagonist, Cutter Van Dusen, clutches the hand of his dying mother, who before succumbing to quantum flux poisoning tells her son that an oracle has chosen him to travel back in time through a quantum flux rupture and save the planet by harnessing the power of a strange, mysterious force known as "quantum flux."

Though the storytelling device provided Fournier with what seemed like an endlessly flexible narrative structure, the author acknowledged that he still suffered from writer's block on at least one occasion.

"I had written myself into a corner," said Fournier, who recalled sitting for weeks just staring at the words "Chapter 12: Quantum Flux" on an otherwise blank computer screen. "Then out of nowhere, this really amazing twist came to me. I don't want to give it away, but if you've read carefully up to that point, it makes perfect sense."

According to Fournier, the rest of the novel—in which, on average, quantum flux is invoked every two pages to negate the effects of earlier quantum flux incidents—just seemed to flow from there.

"It was one of those rare moments when I was writing without any effort at all," said Fournier, who made use of quantum flux to iron out the remaining wrinkles in his plot, finding in it an unexpected justification for why Cutter's nemesis, Mal-Dag Par, abruptly switches gender for three chapters. "It's almost as if I were possessed by some kind of powerful unseen force or something."

Fournier told reporters that The Eclipse Of Infinity is part of a trilogy, the second book of which, Denizens Of Flux, will begin with a sudden fluxquake that ties up several of the first novel's loose ends.

The author admitted he wasn't entirely sure yet how the final book in the series, A Flux Quantum, would end.

"I'm giving it a lot of thought," said Fournier, who hinted that he has been toying with some cosmological theories that suggest different versions of his storyline could exist in multiple parallel universes. "I want to make sure that readers who've stuck with me through all three novels get the payoff they deserve."

In the meantime, Fournier is at work on an old-fashioned Western about a rugged band of pioneers who make their way across the unforgiving prairie only to find a fearsome enemy lying in wait—a tribe of Indians who wield a strange and ancient power the white men call "Cherokee flux."



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31. "A classic article."
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33. "How was there fire on Pandora?"
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The humans needed masks, I'm assuming because of lack of oxygen. Fire rages on the planet though. Maybe its a different kind of fire?


  

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37. "We don't know there wasn't oxygen"
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In fact, maybe there's the same amount of oxygen on the planet as there is on Earth.

But, maybe instead of the atmosphere being 80% nitrogen gas (an inert gas) it's 80% nitrous oxide (laughing gas).

They didn't tell us, so it's anyone's guess. All we know is that humans can't breathe it.

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46. "HOW CAN SEAN CONNERY BE A RUSSIAN NAVY CAPTAIN"
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and not even attempt to have a russian accent, dude is wearing a kilt and shit on the bridge talking about the red army

  

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48. "Sean Connery can play one part only:"
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and that part is as Sean Connery.

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51. "he was also an Egyptian Spaniard that sounded like groundskeeper Willie"
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