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"Man...X-Men The Last Stand Was The Best Of The Trilogy"


  

          

And yes I read comics and i know how far off the shit was from accurate. BUT it was better and if you say its wasnt, TELL ME WHY so i can correct you

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I have a very detailed explanation as to why it's the weakest.
Oct 22nd 2009
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Oct 22nd 2009
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From my blog after the movie came out.
Oct 22nd 2009
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^
Oct 22nd 2009
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http://www.imageyenation.com/emeyesi/images/ochocinco.jpg
Oct 22nd 2009
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Because X2 isn't just better-- it's the best comic book film ever.
Oct 22nd 2009
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And NOTHING beats Cyclops talking to Jean through Xavier.....
Oct 22nd 2009
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When he claws that first guy right into the fridge?
Oct 22nd 2009
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      Ha, I just love how I think it was Iceman just started at him
Oct 23rd 2009
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^^Realest of all talks
Oct 22nd 2009
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no.
Oct 22nd 2009
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I'm with this guy
Oct 22nd 2009
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Professor X and magneto in Jean Grae's house
Oct 23rd 2009
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You're a goddamned idiot, lol.
Oct 23rd 2009
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      whatever fam that shit was dope...
Oct 23rd 2009
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Batman Begins is my personal fav comic movie
Oct 24th 2009
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man take yo country nigga ass BACK to GD and SHUT THE FUCK UP
Oct 22nd 2009
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lol wow
Oct 22nd 2009
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he always doing dumb shit like this
Oct 22nd 2009
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DAMN DUDE TAKE MY DICK OUT YOUR MOUTH..ITS A BAD LOOK
Oct 23rd 2009
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      YO MAMA YA BRICKED FACE BITCH
Oct 23rd 2009
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There was a bad guy who could only kill you if you were hugging him
Oct 22nd 2009
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how about you tell us why it is? i mean, it's your post.
Oct 23rd 2009
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First off
Oct 23rd 2009
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PLEASE TELL ME YALL MUTANTS CLEAN YALL MEAT...
Oct 23rd 2009
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lol
Oct 23rd 2009
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Oh shit !
Oct 23rd 2009
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flaws can be found in all three
Oct 23rd 2009
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Cause the final battle was pretty horrible
Oct 23rd 2009
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It's Vinnie Jones
Oct 23rd 2009
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no, it's just not.
Oct 23rd 2009
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Either this is a shock post or dis nigga is smoking crack
Oct 23rd 2009
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The last 2 X-Men movies have been Ass City
Oct 23rd 2009
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Think about X2...honestly I have all three films anyways but
Oct 23rd 2009
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      No. X3 "felt" like a half-ass movie with a half-ass script and half-ass
Oct 23rd 2009
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      RE: No. X3 "felt" like a half-ass movie with a half-ass script and half...
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           DAMN!!! I forgot about Elektra...
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      I will actually co-sign that particular bit of madness w/ one caveat:
Oct 23rd 2009
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           And sadly, it was based on some of the best stories from the comic
Oct 23rd 2009
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wait, WHAT?!?!
Oct 23rd 2009
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      Yeah. Tom Rothman is know for pushing money making...
Oct 23rd 2009
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even if this were true
Oct 23rd 2009
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they even stole from the new juggernaut fad
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The all at least kinda suck, the 1st and 3rd are particularly horrendous...
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1. "I have a very detailed explanation as to why it's the weakest. "
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it's the weakest because IT FUCKING SUCKED. Irrefutable evidence.

  

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2. ""
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3. "From my blog after the movie came out."
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2 stars

Sigh…

I’ll be honest, after I left the theater, I wanted to give the movie 1.5 stars but after telling my friend about the movie I had to admit that there were some cool parts.

I don’t know what to say about this movie. This wasn’t Brett Ratner’s fault. He did a competent job. There were some scenes that were better than anything in the first two X-Men movies. The Phoenix scenes were handled particularly well.

Whoever decided that this movie should only be 107 minutes not only ruined this movie but ruined this franchise.

It was clear that the writers of the movie had been given a list of things to address:

* Jean/Phoenix
* The cure storyline
* Give Storm a bigger role
* Solve the Cyclops-doesn’t-really-do-anything problem
* Iceman vs. Pyro
* Introduce a bunch of new mutants (Angel, Beast, Callisto, Madrox)
* Give Colossus something to do
* Iceman/Rogue/Kitty Pryde love triangle
* Jean/Cyclops/Logan love triangle

And they were told to do all this in 107 minutes or less because even with the short running time, there managed to be filler.

There was a lot of potential. The cure story could have been cool. The Phoenix story could have been cool. The use of the next generation of X-Men stepping up could have been cool. But instead of there being a main plot and some subplots, there were ONLY subplots, some being resolved, some being forgotten and some rushed to an unsatisfying conclusion. And because of that, I felt detached from the whole movie.

It’s sad. Given an extra 45-60 minutes and a better writer, this could have been the best of the X-Men movies.

* One of the things that I did not like about the franchise as a whole was the relationship between Magneto and Xavier. At first, when Xavier was killed by Phoenix right in front of Magneto, I was mad because Magneto would not stand for his best friend being killed. But he got over it pretty quick. Only after I left the theater did it occur to me that Magneto has endangered his “friend’s” life in each movie.
* I think it’s pretty pathetic that instead of actually giving Cyclops something to do in this movie, they killed him off. Not only that, they did it so unceremoniously that even though he died before Xavier, he never got a funeral or a tombstone. Nothing until the end. This should have been his movie seeing his wife was the main villain. It should have been Cyclops reaching through to her, appealing to her good side, not LOGAN. Then again, Cyclops wasn’t getting a solo movie.
* Well, Halle, you got a bigger role. Too bad you didn’t do anything with it.
* Did the two women of color HAVE TO fight each other? Seriously.
* Did Juggernaut HAVE TO say “I’m the Juggernaut, bitch” like that YouTube cartoon?
* It was a shame that the second best character in the franchise, Mystique, was taken out of play so soon.
* Beast didn’t look that bad. But his fighting did.
* Magneto. Next time, just take a fucking boat to Alcatraz.
* I don’t understand why Angel is on all the movie posters. HE ONLY HAD THREE SCENES AND FOUR LINES?
* I guess the guy playing Colossus can’t act because they gave him as little to do without being considered an extra.
* Iceman finally “icing out” was cool..Although it looked stupid. Shame on you, WETA Digital. That was the best you can do.
* The whole Rogue going for the cure could have been dealt with better.
* Dania Ramirez. Hi there. My name is Sean. Can I buy you a drink?

  

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10. "^"
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> * Dania Ramirez. Hi there. My name is Sean. Can I buy you
>a drink?
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lol. That's where the movie got its first 1.5 stars huh?

Just IMO though.

  

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4. "http://www.imageyenation.com/emeyesi/images/ochocinco.jpg"
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http://www.imageyenation.com/emeyesi/images/ochocinco.jpg

  

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5. "Because X2 isn't just better-- it's the best comic book film ever."
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Nothing in X2 touches the Nightcrawler opening scene.

Or the invasion of the mansion.

Or Magneto's escape from prison.

Or Jean parting the waves while lifting the jet with her mind.

Nothing.

And no scene, NO SCENE, is more badass than the conversation between Magneto and Pyro. "Is that what they say?" "What's your real name?" "You're a god among insects."

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6. "And NOTHING beats Cyclops talking to Jean through Xavier....."
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LMAO.

I still go back and forth between this and TDK for GOAT comic book movie though.

But Wolvie did go Berserker in this one...

  

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7. "When he claws that first guy right into the fridge?"
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Shiiiiiiiit.

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18. "Ha, I just love how I think it was Iceman just started at him"
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STUNNED Wolvie just merked some dude right in front of him and kept it moving. He had the cartoon eyes 0_0

  

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8. "^^Realest of all talks"
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11. "no."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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13. "I'm with this guy"
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24. "Professor X and magneto in Jean Grae's house"
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tops ALL of that rather easily.

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37. "You're a goddamned idiot, lol."
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11/13: Hot Frosty (on Netflix)
11/23: Three Wiser Men & A Boy (on Hallmark)
11/27: Christmas Under the Lights (on Hallmark Mysteries)
12/14: The Santa Class (on Hallmark)

  

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38. "whatever fam that shit was dope..."
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they killed off professor X. my sister cried at that shit..lol..

niggas wasnt trippin like that off know shit on 2

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44. "Batman Begins is my personal fav comic movie"
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but X2 is def the best of the X-men series

  

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9. "man take yo country nigga ass BACK to GD and SHUT THE FUCK UP"
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The Last Stand was the WEAKEST one of the three.

the second was THE best out of the bunch...

i swear, you be on that GOOD NIGGA CRACK spoutin ignorance and nonsense.

dumb mothafucka!

you gets a MASSIVE FAIL, SON!

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12. "lol wow"
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15. "he always doing dumb shit like this"
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keep that bullshit at GD...damn! lol!

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26. "DAMN DUDE TAKE MY DICK OUT YOUR MOUTH..ITS A BAD LOOK"
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you fucking sissy ass bitch

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34. "YO MAMA YA BRICKED FACE BITCH"
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>you fucking sissy ass bitch


you wish i was sissy, ya yuckmouth nigga...and you a DUMB ASS

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14. "There was a bad guy who could only kill you if you were hugging him"
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...says Wrongthink

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16. "how about you tell us why it is? i mean, it's your post. "
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25. "First off"
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it actually felt more like a comic book there where actually scenes where multiple fights where taking place at the same time, in the same place...NEITHER other movie had that. The score was Awesome. Now I'm not saying its perfect. I never made that case

I said it was better than the other 2. X2 which people say is the best COMIC BOOK FILM EVER..which its really not. THAT title goes to Spiderman 2(Which i will admit had a ton of boring moments BUT as A STORY was top notch)

I think X1 isnt even in the running. but i digress.

Oh another thing about the last stand. People DIE or are believed to have died which certainly up's the ante or I thought DID. does it have flaws oh HELL YES. but as a whole it's much more enjoyable and more comic book in its execution of the film then the others.

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17. "PLEASE TELL ME YALL MUTANTS CLEAN YALL MEAT..."
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11/13: Hot Frosty (on Netflix)
11/23: Three Wiser Men & A Boy (on Hallmark)
11/27: Christmas Under the Lights (on Hallmark Mysteries)
12/14: The Santa Class (on Hallmark)

  

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40. "Oh shit !"
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What the blood claaat ???

  

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19. "flaws can be found in all three"
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but X2 was definitely the weakest to me

X3's only big blemish was short running time, needed an extra 45 min at least...

but the story in X1 and X3 and every thing else dwarf 2...

not sure why so many heads rode hard on its nuts. only memorable part was wolvie taking the bullet to the head and shakin it off.

  

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20. "Cause the final battle was pretty horrible"
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Considering it was to be the mutant brawl to end all brawls, it was quite weak.

The script, which wasn't Bret Ratner's fault, sucked. So while X2 had some weak moments* the foundation was much more solid.
There's nothing in X3 like the Mystique middle finger 'I fucked y'all up' scene, the speeches like Frank Longo pointed out...it was just much smarter on a script level. Plus, you had some excellent casting with Alan Cumming as Nightcrawler...X3 took two steps back in that department casting with Vinny Paul in a muscle suit as Juggernaught.

Really, X3...for all the money spent, came off as a cable movie.



*I thought the Lady Deathstrike vs Wolvie seen was a dash too flat, and a waste of an awesome comic character by making her a zombie. See them do this fuck this up again in the Wolvie movie with the final battle with Deadpool.

  

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41. "It's Vinnie Jones"
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>casting with Vinny Paul in a muscle suit as Juggernaught.
>


What the blood claaat ???

  

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21. "no, it's just not."
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22. "Either this is a shock post or dis nigga is smoking crack"
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The Last Stand was a bad film. Is it Brett Ratner's fault? No. That shit I blame on that douche Tom Rothman. That fucker SHOULD NOT be running 20th Century Fox at all. Just because Singer went to work on that boring ass Superman movie Rothman felt like he needed to beat him to the punch and rushed The Last Stand into production, even after the fact that Singer said he would come back for X3.

I really thought this franchise couldn't get any worse...till Wolverine came out. That shit was bad on every level.

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27. "The last 2 X-Men movies have been Ass City"
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I hope Bryan Singer returns to the franchise, as has been reported he is hinting he might do; he'd bring some dignity back to the shit...
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28. "Think about X2...honestly I have all three films anyways but"
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like i said. X3 actaully felt like a comic book film. or a comic put to film moreso than the others.

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29. "No. X3 "felt" like a half-ass movie with a half-ass script and half-ass"
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special effects, featuring half-assed performances from actors who looked like they'd rather be anywhere else...
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30. "RE: No. X3 "felt" like a half-ass movie with a half-ass script and half..."
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This movie was on Daredevil and Elektra proportions GTFOH with this post...

  

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bwood
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35. "DAMN!!! I forgot about Elektra..."
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that shit is tied with Ghost Rider for worst comic adaptation. Honrable mention goes to:

Fantastic Four

Daredevil (was my favorite hero)

The Punisher (pissed me off)

Blade: Trinity (really pissed me off!)

Man-Thing (direct to video it was so bad)

Punisher: War Zone

Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer

And I personally loathe Spider-Man 1 & 3.

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buckshot defunct
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32. "I will actually co-sign that particular bit of madness w/ one caveat:"
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It felt like a *BAD* comic book come to life.

Which in itself was a thing to behold.

And I might even put 3 over 1, which was both a bad *and* a boring film.

But X-2 unequivocally sons the whole trilogy by a wide margin.

  

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43. "And sadly, it was based on some of the best stories from the comic"
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Whedon's Cure plotline? Dark Phoenix? Come on, son! (c) Ed Lover

Each of those really should've been its own movie, or at least a longer movie so they'd have room to breathe (which is the only thing I blame on Ratner, as he has stated himself he refuses to make a movie longer than 90 mins).

If one didn't know better, you'd think it was based on Claremont stories from the 2000's.



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39. "wait, WHAT?!?!"
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>Singer went to work on that boring ass Superman movie Rothman
>felt like he needed to beat him to the punch and rushed The
>Last Stand into production, even after the fact that Singer
>said he would come back for X3.

damn I didn't know that. a pox on their houses for that shit.

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bwood
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42. "Yeah. Tom Rothman is know for pushing money making..."
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...commercial films with a runtime of under two hours. Hence why Kingdom of Heaven was heavily cut and Live Free or Die Hard was PG-13.

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Selah
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31. "even if this were true"
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it's like being the shiniest piece of boo-boo in the toilet

  

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thoughtprocess
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33. "they even stole from the new juggernaut fad"
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while simultaneously asking for those videos to be removed from the internet. cmon.

  

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kevlar skully
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36. "The all at least kinda suck, the 1st and 3rd are particularly horrendous..."
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The first sucks because of shit like, "What happens to a Toad when it's electrocuted"?

Stop saying it's good, everyone

  

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