I always noticed that comedies/comedians get snubbed by the Academy. I once heard Chris Rock say that he thought Eddie Murphy should have gotten an Academy award for his performance in "Nutty Professor." I never thought about it in that regard but looking back on him portraying several different characters was pretty impressive...although I thought his performance in "Coming to America" was better overall.

I can't think of a comedy film that was deserving of an Oscar, maybe one of Woody Allen film's perhaps.

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2. Films like Working Girl and Jerry Maguire were nominated for Best Picture as well, and those are considered comedies.

3. Downey got nominated for Tropic Thunder last year.

4. Those facts aside, there have been many, many, many snubs for comedic performances, and/or movies. I'll start with two: Eddie's performance in Coming to America; There's Something About Mary should have been nominated for Best Picture in 1998.
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>2. Films like Working Girl and Jerry Maguire were nominated
>for Best Picture as well, and those are considered comedies.

So Jerry Maguire was a comedy?? didn't know that...
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>3. Downey got nominated for Tropic Thunder last year.

completely forgot about that one, great call...
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>4. Those facts aside, there have been many, many, many snubs
>for comedic performances, and/or movies. I'll start with two:
>Eddie's performance in Coming to America; There's Something
>About Mary should have been nominated for Best Picture in
>1998.

"Coming to America" was a great flick and it has still manage to stand up against the test of time. It was so far ahead of other comedies that were out during that time. So you think "There's Something About Mary" should have been nominated for best picture?

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besides comedy not being taken seriously, humor is more subjective in some ways than straight drama: what different people find funny differs greatly than what they might find dranatically impactful.

>besides comedy not being taken seriously, humor is more
>subjective in some ways than straight drama: what different
>people find funny differs greatly than what they might find
>dranatically impactful.

But you know I've heard actors say that doing comedy is, a lot times, more difficult to do than dramatic roles just because you have to be able to deliver the funny lines on cue no matter how often you shoot the scene.

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Critics thought it had too much "toilet humor", so that may've had a negative impact on it being nominated.

both were nominated, but they didn't win.

which is why "real" dramas do so well.

but in the "comedy" world of film, too many movies get caught up on the extreme end of comedy.

Peter Sellers in Being There was hilarious but it wasn't a comedy. it was just funny.

so, i dont know if any straight comedy film was worthy of an acting nom.

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If you consider the Truman Show a comedy.

It was really a drama with a funny lead but either way he got snubbed.

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Not to say that it would have won over Ben Hur, but since Wilder got the nom for directing and Jack Lemmon got the nom for acting, you would think it would have gotten the nom for Best Picture.

1959 was a strong year in general but I'd still put Some Like It Hot up there in the top 5 of films released that year. And it's by far my favorite comedy from that era.

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All you see is crime in the source code.

me about the ending. Otherwise it was entertaining and makes want to see more more BW movies.

i didn't though.

no, LIT wasn't a comedy, but Murry is a comedian.

fuck you.

a comedy.

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In fact, Groundhog Day should have been at least in the mix for Best Picture- it was at least as good as The Fugitive.

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was the movie nominated for Best Picture? it should've been if it wasn't.

what about Gosford Park? was that 1 nominated? it should've been if it wasn't.

i'd like to have seen Best In Show get a nod.

fuck you.

it was either a mystery or a comedy or both.

fuck you.

Helen Hunt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Cher....

All comedy Oscars. And that's just recently, off the dome.

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The Big Lebowski - the film, Jeff Fuckin' Bridges, and Goodman
Coming to America - the film, Murphy, and Hall
Midnight Run - the film, De Niro, and Grodin
Best in Show - the film and damn near all the performers
His Girl Friday - the film, Grant, and Russell
Bringing Up Baby - the film, Grant, and Hepburn
The Heartbreak Kid - film and Grodin
Trading Places - the film, Murphy, and Aykroyd
Husbands and Wives - Judy Davis and Pollack
Lily Tomlin - All of Me
The King of Comedy - the film, De Niro, and Lewis
Raising Arizona - Holly Hunter and Nic Cage
Planes, Trains & Automobiles - the film and John Candy
King Hearts and Coronets - Alec Guinness
The Baxter - Michelle Williams
Happy Texas - Steve Zahn
The Freshman - Brando
The Purple Rose of Cairo and Broadway Danny Rose - Mia Farrow
Beverly Hills Cop - Murphy
This is Spinal Tap - Michael McKean and Christopher Guest
Young Frankenstein - Madeline Kahn
Happy-Go-Lucky - Hawkins, Marsan, and Zegerman

>Beverly Hills Cop - Murphy

I never really thought of this as a comedy though. I mean Eddie provided the comic relief in the movie but overall I thought it was just as much action as it was comedy.

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He was perfect in that movie, as was Bridges.

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>Won for best script, which was ironic because they didn't
>stick to the script at all and the screenwriter Ring Lardner
>Jr. was really mad at Altman for that. Yet he went and
>accepted the award anyway without giving any credit to Altman.
>(Credit where credit's due he was blacklisted, and I think his
>acceptance speech was about the blacklist).

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Madeline Kahn one one too, for best supporting actress.

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funniest movies, ever...I still can't believe that a movie so edgy was made in that time. With so much PC today, I doubt if we'll see another comedy in the vein of "Blazing Saddles."

Do you by chance know what category it got nominated in?


>Madeline Kahn one one too, for best supporting actress.

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There aren't enough yearly Oscar-caliber comedies to merit its own category. To create a new section for them would merely dilute the name of the Oscar even further.

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fuck you.

for Bad Santa. You can't deny he kills in that movie - it's one of my favourite comedy performances.

That being said, straight comedies rarely get respect at the Oscars, so it's not surprising.

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He can act for real. Even in his comedy joints, like "Liar, Liar", he acts his ass off. That shit isn't easy to do, it takes a lot of skill. I've always felt that great physical comedy actors get snubbed.

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those movies tried to be heartwarming and everything. what about just movies that everyone thinks are funny. what's wrong with rewarding a performance in that if everyone acknowledges that performance is great. i'm not talking about a silly movie that's designed for critics and awards shows to hate it (adam sandler movies), but some of the movies listed aren't just known as some of the greatest comedies, but some of the greatest movies of all-time, yet they didn't get much award love the year they came out (and in many cases, they lost to movies that haven't maintained a legacy).

Renee Zelllweger got one for BRDGET JONES. And as someone stated above RDJ for TROPIC THUNDER. I mean, it happens is what I'm saying. I mean, Tom Hanks saw a nod for BIG. Shit happens.

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I was actually pulling for him over Ledger. lol

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and not necessarily for the ones that deserve it either. I mean Bridget Jones and Pirates??? cmon.

edit: and even when they're nominated, do they really stand a chance of winning??? the nomination is more obligatory than serious consideration imo. i mean you tell me peter sellers in strangelove didn't deserve the oscar. he got nominated but didn't get it.

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