now or never Member since Oct 27th 2004 3821 posts
Thu Feb-19-09 01:31 PM
1. "i kinda wish i hadn't read the book first, to be honest." In response to Reply # 0
i was saying this in gd the other day i like to see the movies without too many preconceptions about what they're about beyond the trailer, i try not to know nothing bout the movie before i see it so the story and surprises all unfold right there with this shit, i just read it because the place i work for has been buying ads for the movie, so i just felt left out not knowing shit about it but, yeah, i feel like it woulda been much more awesome if i didn't already know the story
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6. "this is how i look at it." In response to Reply # 1
>i like to see the movies without too many preconceptions about >what they're about >beyond the trailer,
at least in this case. i'm going to look at some of the back story of the characters (and by back story i mean a paragraph for each on wikipedia) but i feel like i'll like it more if i see the movie and it fulfills my expectations then read it and the book is even better
25. "RE: this is how i look at it." In response to Reply # 6
> >>i like to see the movies without too many preconceptions >about >>what they're about >>beyond the trailer, > >at least in this case. i'm going to look at some of the back >story of the characters (and by back story i mean a paragraph >for each on wikipedia) but i feel like i'll like it more if i >see the movie and it fulfills my expectations then read it and >the book is even better
This is an awful idea.
At least if you read the OGN, you'll be able to enjoy the arcs/fates of the characters. If you just read it on Wiki, you might be getting spoilery info without even being able to enjoy it in context
Okay there's a lot more to it than just that, and even the comic parts are pretty damn dense, but you should be able to zip through this thing in a few days
4. "I'm starting to wonder if this is going to work @ all" In response to Reply # 0
I think people who read it will be disappointed and people who didn't aren't really going to know what's going on and no one will be satisfied. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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7. "RE: I'm starting to wonder if this is going to work @ all" In response to Reply # 4
>I think people who read it will be disappointed and people >who didn't aren't really going to know what's going on and no >one will be satisfied. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I dont want to read it first for fear of being jaded. It looks like I'll enjoy it enough on the big screen to want to read it after the fact tho.
8. "RE: I'm starting to wonder if this is going to work @ all" In response to Reply # 4
>I think people who read it will be disappointed and people >who didn't aren't really going to know what's going on and no >one will be satisfied. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I'm more concerned with the acting being too craptacular for me to want to see this. For the most part, I don't think the story will be too hard to tell given that the Black Freightener (sp?) storyline won't be included in the movie and the director appears to have a modicum of respect for the original work.
9. "I'm amazed at how optimistic the hype has been thus far" In response to Reply # 4
Obviously it will all come down to that opening weekend and initial fan reaction, but it's kind of amazing to me that the overwhelming majority of comic fans seems genuinely happy that this movie is being made. They haven't even hated on the trailers THAT much and you know what a rarity that is for comic nerds.
Maybe they're just saving up that hate for next month though.
JungleSouljah Member since Sep 24th 2002 14987 posts
Thu Feb-19-09 05:15 PM
11. "I really don't understand anyone not wanting to read the book first" In response to Reply # 0
There's no way the film is going to be in depth enough.
Second off, the film is going to ruin the ability for you to imagine the book without scenes from the film and each actor's particular take on the character influencing your reading of the book.
An all around L.
My wife is reading it right now and is up to about Chapter 4 or 5 and is already saying how surprisingly good it is.
12. "I really don't understand anyone not understanding why not" In response to Reply # 11
It's already been stated a few times in this thread
>There's no way the film is going to be in depth enough.
And the film doesn't have to be. Sometimes less is more.
>Second off, the film is going to ruin the ability for you to >imagine the book without scenes from the film and each actor's >particular take on the character influencing your reading of >the book.
False. And even if this was true, I couldn't care less.
>An all around L.
Nope. This stance you're taking is tho. Believe it or not, some of us are able to enjoy a movie w/o having to read the book first. And like thoughtprocess stated above. Sometimes reading the book after the fact improves the experience.
>My wife is reading it right now and is up to about Chapter 4 >or 5 and is already saying how surprisingly good it is.
That's great. But that doesn't mean it's the right choice for eveyone.
I don't have time to read it for a while probably but will eventually
2 cases in point V for Vendetta - never read it but liked the movie
The Shining - read the book before seeing movie, hated movie. Of course, changed my mind over the years and love the movie now but expecting what was in the book to be in the movie was a big dissappoinment.
16. "How long does it take you to read a graphic novel?" In response to Reply # 14
Not trying to be snarky, but I read it in a weekend reading in bits and pieces here and there. The "newspaper clipping" sections in between the chapters are the only part of the entire thing that aren't in talk bubbles, but it's not a hard read. It's longer than most graphic novels and there are a bunch of parts that are going to make you say "Oh shit, for real?" and re-read that shit, but all in all it's not a War and Peace type of commitment.
15. "nah, not for this one. it's really not meant to be condensed into a movi..." In response to Reply # 12
>And the film doesn't have to be. Sometimes less is more.
nah. it's like making The Stand a movie, or The Wire. too many intricacies are lost. I'm not saying it'll be a bad movie, but it definitely won't be a "less is more" case. it'll just be "less is less".
>Nope. This stance you're taking is tho. Believe it or not, >some of us are able to enjoy a movie w/o having to read the >book first. And like thoughtprocess stated above. Sometimes >reading the book after the fact improves the experience.
I can see why some people would rather watch the movie first. I like lots of book-adapted movies and have never read the original.
I doubt reading the comic afterward would improve the movie, however. and several "oh shit" moments in the comic are going to be lost after you see the movie.
either way, if you end up thinking the movie sucks or is great, I'd still recommend reading the comic.
>>And the film doesn't have to be. Sometimes less is more. > >nah. it's like making The Stand a movie, or The Wire. too many >intricacies are lost. I'm not saying it'll be a bad movie, but >it definitely won't be a "less is more" case. it'll just be >"less is less". > >>Nope. This stance you're taking is tho. Believe it or not, >>some of us are able to enjoy a movie w/o having to read the >>book first. And like thoughtprocess stated above. Sometimes >>reading the book after the fact improves the experience. > >I can see why some people would rather watch the movie first. >I like lots of book-adapted movies and have never read the >original. > >I doubt reading the comic afterward would improve the movie, >however.
I'm not saying it'll improve the movie, but there's a chance I could get more out of the book after seeing the movie.
and several "oh shit" moments in the comic are going >to be lost after you see the movie.
Wouldn't the "oh shit" moments in the movie also be lost for those that have already read the comic? I mean if you read the book first then see the movie you know all the spoilers. And vice versa right?
>either way, if you end up thinking the movie sucks or is >great, I'd still recommend reading the comic.
18. "yeah, that's the thing." In response to Reply # 17
>Wouldn't the "oh shit" moments in the movie also be lost for >those that have already read the comic? I mean if you read the >book first then see the movie you know all the spoilers. And >vice versa right?
I guess I'm saying, if you were to lose the drama of either version, I'd rather pick the movie.
but seeing as you're pretty set on watching the movie, I'd recommend just waiting to read the comic. watch the movie first, possibly enjoy it, then be impressed when the comic is tons better. opposed to my predicament: be blown away by the comic, then go into the movie already waiting for it to fail me.
20. "It's all a matter of preference. I can understand both sides." In response to Reply # 18
But I usually go this route. I've decided to read A Long Way Down & The Road before the movies just to test things out though.
>>Wouldn't the "oh shit" moments in the movie also be lost >for >>those that have already read the comic? I mean if you read >the >>book first then see the movie you know all the spoilers. And >>vice versa right? > >I guess I'm saying, if you were to lose the drama of either >version, I'd rather pick the movie. > >but seeing as you're pretty set on watching the movie, I'd >recommend just waiting to read the comic. watch the movie >first, possibly enjoy it, then be impressed when the comic is >tons better. opposed to my predicament: be blown away by the >comic, then go into the movie already waiting for it to fail >me.
I mean I remember all the Watchmen talk before the movie was even announced & how it would never happen because it just wasn't possible to trim it down to a decent running time. But I was sold from the first trailer. I'm almost positive I'm better off seeing what the big screen has to offer first and then having the rest opened up to me in the novel. I'm pretty sure I'll get the same enjoyment when I get around to reading Let the Right One in as well. I liked the movie but had a ton of questions afterwards. It's good to know I can go to the book (or PTP) after the fact to get the answers.
19. "well either order you do it in, there's going to be a prejudice" In response to Reply # 11
You're either watching the movie and picturing the comic, or vice versa. The key to enjoying both is your ability to compartmentalize. The book is the book, and the movie is the movie. I think a lot of people have resigned themselves to this fact and that's why the hate level is staying nice and low for now. Expectations have been re-calibrated, if not lowered.
You know, this is going to be my first time seeing an Alan Moore comicbook movie having actually read the book first. I saw V before I read the book (and actually preferred the movie), and the same with 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'... which I probably would have hated had I read the book first. But I didn't so I actually found the movie kind of tolerable. That's not a bad strategy really, to experience the crappy version first.
21. "I didn't know anyone liked LXG the movie" In response to Reply # 19
>You're either watching the movie and picturing the comic, or >vice versa. The key to enjoying both is your ability to >compartmentalize. The book is the book, and the movie is the >movie. I think a lot of people have resigned themselves to >this fact and that's why the hate level is staying nice and >low for now. Expectations have been re-calibrated, if not >lowered.
>You know, this is going to be my first time seeing an Alan >Moore comicbook movie having actually read the book first. I >saw V before I read the book (and actually preferred the >movie), and the same with 'League of Extraordinary >Gentlemen'... which I probably would have hated had I read the >book first. But I didn't so I actually found the movie kind of >tolerable. That's not a bad strategy really, to experience the >crappy version first.
But LXG the movie was so bad I didn't even want to read the book afterwards. I mean the make up on Hyde? I thought it was a joke.
22. "I wouldn't say I *liked* it now" In response to Reply # 21
It was one of those lazy Sunday afternoons where I'm sifting through a basket of DVDs my father in law impulse bought at the Wal-Mart check out line, and League seemed like the least horrible option. I read the book a few years later, and it pretty much had nothing to do with the movie.
24. "it will make reading the book that much funner" In response to Reply # 11
like harry potter was when i read the books after watching the movies. also, you'll enjoy the movie without any thoughts of "why did they leave *blank* out?)
32. "Never read it | I'm a Sci-Fi Fan | Not Gonna Watch It" In response to Reply # 0
At this point, nothing I have seen has given me the slighttest bit of interest. Not the trailers, not the press, not the blog or the hype at the last 2 or 3 comic-cons I have been to.
Just doesn't seem interesting/intriguing at all. I know there is more information out there for me to pick up on, but I'm not the slightest bit interested in learning about it.
As big of a sci-fi/semi-comic fan fan I am, I consider myself to be pretty in tune with those who aren't and I don't see them flocking to see this thing like Iron Man (given there no RDJ) or any other remotely successful Sci-Fi/Comic Movie
35. "That's not even what I'm saying." In response to Reply # 34
You're kinda right, but that particular point is debatable, if you're in the realm of sitting around with friends and they're talking about something that you don't get down with.
But to click on a post labeled specifically to people that fall into a certain category that you aren't in, and not ask questions, but instead just say, "this doesn't apply to me because I have no interest in it"?
That would be like me going into a male butt-sex post just to say, "I don't do that and have no interest in it."
What's the point? I mean, if I go in there and say, "I don't get down with the butt-sex, but was just wondering why some people do" that's one thing.
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