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dunk
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"Two Lovers (Joaquin Phoenix, Gwenyth Paltrow, Vinessa Shaw)"
Thu Feb-19-09 09:41 AM by dunk

  

          

I peeped this and it's a great movie. Glad to see a quality film this early in the year and a great romantic drama that wasn't cheesy.

The whole cast was on point acting, Joaquin and Paltrow usually are, and I'm glad Vinessa Shaw, with the little she had with her character, put in a good performance (and looks good as a brunette)

The story was pretty predictable but I still enjoyed it. The characters of Phoenix and Paltrow were great, esp. the former and both were passionate and pretty damn intense with their scenes together.

a solid flick that i'd give an 8/10 to.

  

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i saw a preview of this before The Wrestler.
Feb 19th 2009
1
LOL and how so?
Feb 20th 2009
11
      just your average groaning, laughing, etc.
Mar 02nd 2009
20
if MC Walking Phoenix does the soundtrack, i'll watch.
Feb 19th 2009
2
He does have a brief rap in it
Feb 24th 2009
15
Checkin this out on Monday. Joaquin works well with James Grey.
Feb 19th 2009
3
is this out yet?
Feb 19th 2009
4
it came out feb. 13th
Feb 19th 2009
5
      Word? How did that slip past me? Thanks. nm
Feb 20th 2009
13
I loved it
Feb 20th 2009
6
RE: I loved it
Feb 20th 2009
7
      I havent seen The Yards but...
Feb 20th 2009
8
           RE: I havent seen The Yards but...
Feb 20th 2009
9
funny me and the lady was gonna go see it
Feb 20th 2009
10
Vinessa Shaw was really underused
Feb 20th 2009
12
The highlight for me was hearing Lujon & a Paltrow 1/2 rack
Feb 24th 2009
14
Shit looks corny to me nm
Mar 02nd 2009
16
that thread was actually about shaw...
Mar 02nd 2009
17
shaw been on my radar since Ladybugs.
Mar 02nd 2009
18
it really isn't corny at all
Mar 02nd 2009
19
Almost a perfect good movie. Not a near-masterpiece or anything
May 01st 2009
21

iagoali
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1. "i saw a preview of this before The Wrestler."
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the audience openly mocked every second of it.

  

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11. "LOL and how so?"
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20. "just your average groaning, laughing, etc."
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DROP.
YOUR.
SWORD.

BITCH.

  

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Thu Feb-19-09 11:35 AM

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2. "if MC Walking Phoenix does the soundtrack, i'll watch."
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<<progressions.

  

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15. "He does have a brief rap in it"
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sans beard tho

  

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3. "Checkin this out on Monday. Joaquin works well with James Grey."
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I love his performance in both The Yards & We Own the Night so I've been looking forward to this one for awhile as well.

  

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Wordman
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Thu Feb-19-09 12:53 PM

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4. "is this out yet?"
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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dunk
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5. "it came out feb. 13th"
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Wordman
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13. "Word? How did that slip past me? Thanks. nm"
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"Your current frequencies of understanding outweigh that which has been given for you to understand." Saul Williams

  

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6. "I loved it"
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I thought it was better than anything I saw in 08 but that could just be me.

  

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7. "RE: I loved it"
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Fri Feb-20-09 05:03 AM by Sponge

          

How does it stand up to his other films? I like all of them especially The Yards.

  

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mrshow
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8. "I havent seen The Yards but..."
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Disclaimer: I really hated We Own The Night and almost wrote Gray off because of it.

I'd say it's on par with Little Odessa but definitely shows how he's maturing as a writer/director. It could be argued Two Lovers is a less dark film as well.



  

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Sponge
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9. "RE: I havent seen The Yards but..."
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Cool. Little Odessa is my 2nd fave; We Own the Night is my least fave. So I feel better about this film if it's on par with LO. At Cannes, the French liked TL, the American critics didn't, more or less.

  

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10. "funny me and the lady was gonna go see it"
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Fri Feb-20-09 01:47 PM by madwriter

  

          

but turns out it was on demand
thank goodness
for all the good acting
it was pretty unsatisfying by the end
realistic portrayal of dysfunctional relationships
but man i just didn't care about anyone and Vinessa was so underused\

I would have chosen her over gywneth's character
but then perhaps that's why he was drawn to her cause he was fucked up too.

  

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dunk
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Fri Feb-20-09 06:23 PM

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12. "Vinessa Shaw was really underused"
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i felt the same way. Her character was way more stable and had a lot more going for her. Paltrow had beauty and that was it.

  

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14. "The highlight for me was hearing Lujon & a Paltrow 1/2 rack"
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Other than that I wasn't too impressed. Gray's films are always very moody and this is no exception but it just felt pretty weird.

I couldn't ever get a feel for the characters ages or what era it was taking place in. It didn't look like Paltrow & Phoenix would be able to see each other from the windows of their apartments the way the earlier scene was shot from the inside of the unit. I see John Ortiz listed in the credits but I dont recall ever seeing him in it.

I could certainly relate to a couple scenes in the movie where he's torn between the two ladies. There were a few nice shots here & there. But overall I think Gray's better off sticking to the crime genre. I don't remember a lot about Little Odessa but I liked The Yards & We Own the Night much more than this latest effort. I also really hope this isn't JP's last flick either. Pretty good performance & I'd rather see more from him on a big screen than falling off a small stage or chewing gum on TV.

This is only the second time that I can recall hearing Lujon. Sexy Beast was the first time. It was used very well in both flicks & I hope to hear it again sometime soon. If anyone knows any other movies it was played in please let me know. Thanks.

  

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16. "Shit looks corny to me nm"
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Mon Mar-02-09 12:31 PM by ZooTown74

  

          

Or maybe I'm being negatively influenced by Joaqin's antics
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17. "that thread was actually about shaw..."
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but, okay.

maybe i shoulda titled it differently.

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18. "shaw been on my radar since Ladybugs."
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I was pissed she didn't get nekkid in Eyes Wide Shut

  

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19. "it really isn't corny at all"
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I think his antics have been throwing you off cause this was some good acting by Joaquin as usual.

the film is a lot different from what the trailer portrays it to be.

  

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21. "Almost a perfect good movie. Not a near-masterpiece or anything"
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Fri May-01-09 06:45 AM by Sponge

          

close to that, IMHO.

First, Shaw and Rossellini were excellent especially the former. I'm almost certain that they both won't be bumped from my SLA ballot when the time comes.

Visually precise. Some striking shots. Something about the shots; made the locations/story world real palpable. It had a tactile quality which is something that I love. Koteas was great. Really liked the ending.


Offhand, no complaints or criticisms, really, except for this:




**Spoilers**

the scene after the rooftop sex in which Paltrow's character said, "That was beautiful" and the left tit business and pretty much that whole scene. Just thought it was corny.


**End Spoilers**

  

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