Prediction: time travel, death, laughs, crys, some people will like it, some people wont

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2 questions: 1 about 2 episodes ago and 1 about last week's.

2 episodes ago: So, Alpert visited Locke because of Locke's time travel interaction with Alpert telling Alpert to go check him out when he's born? Or, Alpert found out about Locke anyway? If it's the first, then it's all just a circular thing then kind of like a time loop or whatever.

Last week's: Why were people questioning the fact that Danielle never recognized Jin? She never met Jin yet. It's like Alpert not recognizing Locke or any of the Losties. They didn't meet yet.

>2 questions: 1 about 2 episodes ago and 1 about last week's.
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>2 episodes ago: So, Alpert visited Locke because of Locke's
>time travel interaction with Alpert telling Alpert to go check
>him out when he's born? Or, Alpert found out about Locke
>anyway? If it's the first, then it's all just a circular
>thing then kind of like a time loop or whatever.
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>Last week's: Why were people questioning the fact that
>Danielle never recognized Jin? She never met Jin yet. It's
>like Alpert not recognizing Locke or any of the Losties. They
>didn't meet yet.
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about Alpert recognizing Locke and the Losties during the h-bomb period? Sorry, if I'm missing something about Danielle-Jin in S1, it's been a long time since I've seen S1 eps.

he has recognized locke always.

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the h-bomb period is the only time so far alpert hasn't seemed completely knowledgeable about what's going on.

rousseau never indicated she'd seen anyone of the plane crash survivors during season 1, cuz they hadn't written that bullshit in yet. lets move on.

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>the h-bomb period is the only time so far alpert hasn't
>seemed completely knowledgeable about what's going on.
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>rousseau never indicated she'd seen anyone of the plane crash
>survivors during season 1, cuz they hadn't written that
>bullshit in yet. lets move on.

this rarely happens but i completely agree with rj on this one

and now he's on their time travel path?

I don't like to nit pick time travel plots, but that kinda bugged me.

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time travel path. What makes you think that? For all we know he was knocked out in the water until Danielle an 'em found him. He could have been on the same time travel path as everyone else.

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Locke and them.

Because he was bouncing around with them until he met up the rest of his people.

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I'm saying that during the time Locke and 'em were time traveling (every episode before last week's ep), Jin was unconscious in the water. Then when Jin was found by Danielle and her crew, Locke and 'em were in the same time period (in both cases it was raining). Then Jin jumped a couple of times and Locke's group jumped too until they bumped into each other.

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but that shit's stupid though.

How's your head feel? Gotten any nosebleeds?

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but that shit's stupid though.

but still - what happened to the rest of the others? the kids?

where the fuck did they go?


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>but still - what happened to the rest of the others? the
>kids?
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>where the fuck did they go?
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I always wanted to know what happened to the kids.


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Most of the Others were killed last season, but the women and the children are, as far as we know, still alive. Most of the Others have been there since before the Dharma initiative, but some of them were either kidnapped or brought in from the outside world by Ben. So those few should, theoretically, be hopping through time. Although if we don't know what was happening to the other people from the plane (Rose, Bernard and all them) during the time traveling, I doubt we'll ever know what was happening to the Others.

Speaking of the people from the plane, do we have any idea how many of them are still alive? I know at least a couple of them got shot during the arrow attack, but I think they were just red shirts. Did we see if Rose and Bernard got away?

Y'all just ain't paying attention. We saw them in the ep where Frogurt dies. They are all going through the same thing.

It's just that as usual only a few are in on the action.

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Have we seen them after that attack though? And when did we last see the people that the Others took from Tailies?

the flashes got increasingly frequent the closer they got to the orchid - maybe that has something to do with how often someone experiences them? sawyer did kinda pop up out of nowhere... maybe jin didn't skip onto the same track as the rest of the crew until he got further inland.

the wheel was fucked up after ben pushed it, it was getting worse and that was affecting the flashes. it wasn't getting worse because they were getting closer. it was getting worse because it was getting worse.

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>the wheel was fucked up after ben pushed it, it was getting
>worse and that was affecting the flashes. it wasn't getting
>worse because they were getting closer. it was getting worse
>because it was getting worse.

again. i might have to agree with rj on this

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What I Liked:

* They didn’t waste time reuniting Jin with the rest of his island time travellers
* While it was sad that Charlotte died, I’m glad a) they didn’t drag this out any longer and b) she had the decency to spew out a bunch of answers about herself before she expired
* The return of Christian AND Smokey
* The plot is moving along quickly

What I Didn’t Like:

* Sometimes it feels like we’re moving too quickly. It like the first half of Lost, we lingered too long on innocuous details like what Kate did or Jack’s tattoos but now it feels like the writers and producers are running out of time so we’re moving at this breakneck pace. I kinda miss the days of lingering
* The constant flashes are making my head hurt

Lines of the Night:

* “Since when did listening to him get you anywhere worth a damn?” - Christian Shepherd to Locke regarding allowing Ben to move the island
* “Don’t let them bring them back. Don’t let them bring her back. This place is death!” - Charlotte to everyone, particularly Jin
* “He’s Korean. I’m from Encino,”- Miles to Sawyer when Sawyer asked him to translate Jin’s Korean
* “You had to say something!”- Sawyer to Juliet when the island flashed away to a time before the Orchid Station existed
* “Say hello to my son” “Who’s your son?” - Christian and Locke before he leaves the island

What We Learned:

Island:

* Jin is still with the Frenchies
* He’s tells them he needs to get back to his camp
* He asks Danielle what year it is. It’s 1988
* The Frenchies left from Tahti
* One of the Frenchies hears a recording from the radio station
* Jin says he will lead them to the tower
* Danielle is seven months pregnant
* Jin hears the monster
* Nadine gets grabbed and killed
* Smokey confronts the blondie one and grabs him too
* It tries to pull him underground but Jin and the rest of the Frenchies try to pull him out of Smokey’s grip. Smokey wins and blondie loses his arm
* Blondie’s still alive underground and says that Smokey is gone
* Alex’s father climbs down the tunnel
* Danielle attempts to go but Jin tells her not to go down there with the baby
* Flash
* Jin spots the rotted remains of Blondie’s arm
* Jin see the remains of the Frenchie’s camp including Danielle’s music box, a still lit fire and two bodies
* On the beach, Danielle has the last Frenchie (Alex’s father) at gunpoint
* Danielle says the tunnel changed all of them. He convinces her that he’s fine.
* He says that Smokey is just the security guard protecting the temple
* She puts her gun down and then Alex’s father tries to shoot Danielle but he’s out of bullets. Opps. Danielle shoots him
* Danielle sees Jin and starts shooting at him too
* Flash
* Someone has a gun to Jin’s head but this time, it’s Sawyer
* Jin asks where Sun is
* They tell them that they made it off the island and Charlotte tells Jin of Locke’s plan to bring them all back to the island in Korean
* Jin doesn’t seem to pleased with that
* Daniel didn’t know Charlotte could speak Korean. She also speaks Klingon
* Two flashes
* Charlotte’s down again
* She wakes up speaking Korean and tell Jin: “Don’t let them bring them back! Don’t let them bring her back! This place is death!!”
* Charlotte’s mind is travelling through different time periods as she starts babbling
* One of the random things she says is “No…I love Geronimo Jackson” which has been referenced several times throughout the show
* Jin, Sawyer, Locke, Miles and Juliet move on without Charlotte and Daniel
* Before they leave, Charlotte tells them that they can find the Orchid at the well
* Miles starts to nosebleed
* They make it to the station and then flash to a pre-station time
* They find the well
* Charlotte tells Daniel that she grew up on the island. She left it with her mother and her mother tried to convince her the Charlotte made the whole island up.
* She never saw her father again.
* She became and anthropologist to try and find the island again
* She remembers a crazy guy she saw when she was little who told her that if she ever came back to the island again, she would die. She thinks that crazy guy was Daniel
* At the well, Locke is going to climb to the bottom
* Jin tells Locke that he doesn’t want him to bring Sun back. He wants Locke to tell Sun his body washed up on the shore and that he’s dead. Jin gives Locke his wedding ring to show her as proof. Locke promises.
* Locke climbs down but the island flashes to a pre-well time and Locke falls to the bottom
* Sawyer gets a nosebleed
* Charlotte is getting worse
* Daniel tells Charlotte about his meeting with Desmond anf how he’s going to find his mother
* Too late. Charlotte dies
* Locke breaks his leg (compound fracture…gross)
* Christian is at the bottom of the well to help him the rest of the way
* Christian reminds Locke that they told HIM that he had to move the island not Ben
* Christian tells him that there is a woman living in LA. He should gather all his friends and she’ll help them get back to the island
* Christian confirms that Locke is going to have to die
* The donkey wheel is off it’s axis
* Locke pushes the wheel
* Before Locke flashes away, Christian tells Locke to say hello to his son. Locke asks who his son is but flashes away before he gets an answer

Los Angeles:

* While in the car getting ready to shoot Ben, Sun gets a call from her mother (?) and Ji Yeon asking when she’s coming home
* Sun tells Ji Yeon that she’s met a new friend for her, referring to Aaron
* Sun gets out the car the draws her gun on Ben
* Ben tells Sun that Jin is alive and he can prove it
* Ben tells Sun that he will take her to a person with proof that Jin is alive, the same person who will help them get to the island
* Kate leaves with Aaron
* Sayid leaves and threatens Ben (and Jack?) that he better never see them again
* Sun, Ben and Jack head to the mysterious person
* While stuck in traffic, Jack apologizes to Sun for leaving Jin behind and that given what Ben has done to Kate, he’d probably want to shoot Ben himself
* Ben does not take that very well and pulls the car over.
* Ben yells to Jack saying they don’t know what he’s had to do to keep him and his friends safe
* They reach a church
* Ben hands Sun Jin’s wedding ring as proof he’s alive. He says he got it from Locke.
* Apparently Locke never went to see Ben but Ben went to see Locke (You gotta be careful how you phrase your questions, Jack)
* Desmond shows up at the church saying he’s there looking for Faraday’s mother
* They go in the church and Eloise Hawking is lighting candles
* She asks Ben where is everyone else and he says this was the best he could do on such short notice
* Eloise says this will have to do for now. Let’s get started.

Questions:

* Is everything screwed up with the island because a) Ben moved in the island and not Locke, b) the Oceanic Six left or c) a combination of both?
* if it’s “A”, did Ben know this was going to happen?
* If Christian says that no one should trust Ben, what is Ben’s endgame in trying to get the Oceanic Six back to the island?
* Who has to go back? Just the Oceanic Six? Desmond? Ji Yeon? Lapidus?
* Who is Charlotte’s father?
* Why does Daniel warn little Charlotte about coming to island considering the rules?
* Was Daniel’s breaking of the rules in her regard what ultimately led to her sickness?
* How did Charlotte know about the well?
* What is Smokey guarding at the Temple?
* What was the recording that the Frenchies discovered? Who left that one?
* What did the Frenchies find in the whole that Smokey went into?
* What sickness did the Frenchies get that Danielle didn’t since it’s clear that it isn’t the time sickness that killed Charlotte?
* What does Daniel think his mother is going to be able to do?
* What has Ben done to protect the Oceanic Six? Who is he protecting them from?
* Who is winning the snark off so far: Sawyer or Miles?
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>Questions:


> * What sickness did the Frenchies get that Danielle didn’t
>since it’s clear that it isn’t the time sickness that killed
>Charlotte?

whatever it was, I think it came from them going down into the hole...



> * Who is winning the snark off so far: Sawyer or Miles?

Miles.

"Yaaaay!!!Now what?" is a personal favorite.

I'm waiting for Sawyer to hit Miles with another nickname though.

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>>Questions:
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>> * What sickness did the Frenchies get that Danielle
>didn’t
>>since it’s clear that it isn’t the time sickness that killed
>>Charlotte?
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>whatever it was, I think it came from them going down into the
>hole...
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None of the people she killed showed any sign of being sick, she just said they were. Sure, her husband/baby daddy tried to shoot her, but I assumed that to be because she shot all the other people that were with them, not because he was sick.

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sometimes when it walks like a duck it is in fact a duck....thats why the other dude didnt come out of the tunnel...it was all a trick by smokey to get the frenchies to turn hostile...he's assumed other identities before



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My predictio Based on little to nothing.)

Ben is the one who kills Locke and takes the wedding ring from him. I just don't see him being a hero after all the evil he has done.

We need more Alpert. He has a huge role to play in this.

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The Orchid. Anyone else find it funny that the fact that Sawyer held on to the well's rope during the flash to a time before the well or the Orchid was built, means that the reason some unknown (?) group will eventually notice that area and build a well is because a rope is embedded within the earth, lol. And with the well built, then perhaps Dharma discovers the energy and subsequently builds the Orchid station as we saw in the premiere.

Ben @ Faraday's mother revelation. Anyone else notice the musical sound effect during Ben's reaction to Desmond revealing that Eloise was Faraday's mother. As if it was a surprise and...as if it made sense to him (Ben) knowing what he must already know.

Ji Yeon. Sun was pregnant with Ji Yeon on the island and gave birth to her afterwards off-island. Ben warned Jack that once they all go back that they will never come back. Shoudn't Sun get that same warning to say goodbye to Ji Yeon? Does Ji Yeon need to come back also?

Jacob vs. "Christian Shephard". Anyone else think that it will be an important revelation to Ben that Jacob didn't tell Locke to move the island, "Christian" did. In fact, "Christian" told Locke when he entered the cabin, that Jacob's not here, but I can speak for him. When Locke left the cabin, he told Hurley and Ben that he needed to move the island. Only Ben moved it, not Locke. And in last week's ep, "Christian" reiterates that he told Locke to move it not Ben, and that listening to Ben never did him any good. But if moving the island was never Jacob's instruction, was that the right thing to do? Also anyone notice that, with the exception of Jack, the "Christian Shephard" entity has never appeared to anyone else who could have identified him (Sawyer, Ana Lucia), only to those who don't know him (Michael, Locke)?

The Smoke Monster. I really would have liked to delve into this mystery even more. Remember when Ben summoned the smoke monster to kill Martin Keamy and the rest of Widmore's mercenaries, he emerged from a secret entrance in the barracks covered in soot. Did he travel all the way to the temple underground somehow? The same place in the temple where the men in Danielle's crew went and were supposedly "infected" by the smoke monster? And Robert, Alex's dad, said that the monster was a security system for the temple - I want more answers, lol.

Desmond and Daniel. They've met three different times now 1) at Faraday's lab in Oxford in 1996, 2) while Desmond was in the hatch waiting for his replacement, and 3) on the island when Widmore's freighter showed up. The chronological order is 1-2-3. The actual occurring order is 3-1-2. Just found that interesting.