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Tiger Woods
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"Straight up character copycats by rival comic companies"


  

          

(wow, lotta c-words in that subject)

but yo, isn't Moon-Knight Marvel's version of Batman?

And isn't Swamp-Thing just Man-Thing with a human looking head? I mean they even kept the "thing" part.

is this acceptable in comics or something? and those were just two really obvious ones that came to mind right quick, you have any others?

  

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Squadron Supreme/JLA
Dec 03rd 2008
1
^^^ What I came in to post.
Dec 03rd 2008
3
Along the same lines...
Dec 03rd 2008
4
      Didn't Marvel have to pay for that?
Dec 03rd 2008
16
           I'm not sure...
Dec 03rd 2008
22
Blood Wulf/Lobo
Dec 03rd 2008
2
Wonder Man (1939)--POST OVER
Dec 03rd 2008
5
i had this #1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Wonder...
Dec 03rd 2008
6
i was gonna be surprised that someone else knew of wonder man
Dec 03rd 2008
7
RE: i had this #1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Wo...
Dec 03rd 2008
21
RE: Wonder Man (1939)--POST OVER
Dec 03rd 2008
12
there's also captain marvel
Dec 03rd 2008
8
DC returned the favor - Superboy and Supergirl are ripoffs of
Dec 03rd 2008
11
      actually, superboy came about 3 years earlier than captain marvel jr.
Dec 04th 2008
23
           Otto Binder created both Mary Marvel and Supergirl...so...
Dec 04th 2008
25
"the punisher" is basically "the executioner"
Dec 03rd 2008
9
Namor / Aquaman
Dec 03rd 2008
10
Don't see it
Dec 03rd 2008
18
Deadpool is a Deathstroke rip-off
Dec 03rd 2008
13
And Deathstroke is a Taskmaster rip-off
Dec 03rd 2008
17
      And Taskmaster is balls-deep in awesomeness...
Dec 11th 2008
78
Youngblood was originally supposed to be the Teen Titans
Dec 03rd 2008
14
Image was a bunch of rip-offs.
Dec 03rd 2008
19
      RE: Image was a bunch of rip-offs.
Dec 04th 2008
38
           this is the end-all be-all. WOW
Dec 04th 2008
40
           look at the black guy on the left of the bottom 3 pics
Dec 04th 2008
46
           RE: look at the black guy on the left of the bottom 3 pics
Dec 04th 2008
49
           LOL. I was trying to remember dude's name for this post
Dec 04th 2008
47
           Yup, AWESOME Comics. Great name.
Dec 04th 2008
48
           holy shit!!!!!!!!!
Dec 05th 2008
65
Batman/Moon Knight
Dec 03rd 2008
15
Would there be an Iron Man without Batman?
Dec 03rd 2008
20
?????????????
Dec 04th 2008
24
Iron Man is
Dec 04th 2008
29
      i don't see anything remotely resembling "rip-off"
Dec 04th 2008
30
           bruce wouldn't have built a suit in that cave.....
Dec 04th 2008
36
           are the Authority an X-Men ripoff?
Dec 04th 2008
37
                No they're a Shadow Cabinet rip off n/m
Dec 04th 2008
39
                you mean Milestone's Shadow Cabinet?
Dec 11th 2008
76
                     Did you really just ask that?
Dec 11th 2008
77
                          RE: Did you really just ask that?
Dec 11th 2008
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                Nope. Justice League. Albeit loosely...
Dec 05th 2008
66
           This guy sums up how I feel Iron Man came about
Dec 04th 2008
53
                do I smell a spin-off post????????
Dec 04th 2008
55
                again, bruce wayne IS NOT a playboy
Dec 04th 2008
59
                     Look
Dec 04th 2008
62
                          look bitch
Dec 05th 2008
63
If by 'Batman' you meant 'shrapnel in Tony Stark's heart', then no
Dec 04th 2008
26
Absolutely.
Dec 04th 2008
56
Lets list the Wolverine knockoffs:
Dec 04th 2008
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Ripclaw
Dec 04th 2008
28
that x-2 chick or whatever her name is (might as well be named wolverina...
Dec 04th 2008
31
in the comics I think it was X-23, like Jordan with claws and a vag
Dec 04th 2008
32
i had to laugh when they called her the next big character
Dec 04th 2008
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RE: i had to laugh when they called her the next big character
Dec 04th 2008
50
that wasn't really a rival tho.
Dec 04th 2008
57
      not a rival company, but a blatant rip off
Dec 05th 2008
64
           More like a spin off
Dec 05th 2008
67
she's not a ripoff tho....
Dec 09th 2008
75
Wasn't that Lady Deathstrike?
Dec 08th 2008
74
Legion of Superheroes / Shi'ar Imperial Guard
Dec 04th 2008
33
Steel/Hardware
Dec 04th 2008
34
Iron Man / War Machine in a sense
Dec 04th 2008
35
miracle man and sentry?
Dec 04th 2008
41
RE: miracle man and sentry?
Dec 04th 2008
42
      If you look at Black Adamn, they took some Kid Miracleman stuff
Dec 04th 2008
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           RE: If you look at Black Adamn, they took some Kid Miracleman stuff
Dec 04th 2008
51
                and captain marvel bit superman
Dec 04th 2008
61
Green Lantern / Nova
Dec 04th 2008
43
Doom Patrol - X-Men
Dec 04th 2008
52
RE: Doom Patrol - X-Men
Dec 04th 2008
54
this one is interesting
Dec 04th 2008
60
      Arnold Drake maintains that Stan ripped him off.
Dec 05th 2008
68
Aquaman/Namor
Dec 04th 2008
58
^^^copycat of post #10^^^
Dec 07th 2008
69
      Apocalypse and Darkseid
Dec 07th 2008
71
Radioactive Man vs. Radiation Dude
Dec 07th 2008
70
Cyborg (DC)/Deathlok (Marvel)
Dec 07th 2008
72
Badrock/Thing
Dec 07th 2008
73
Flash/Quicksilver
Dec 11th 2008
79
Green Arrow/Hawkeye
Dec 11th 2008
80
Superman/Supreme
Dec 11th 2008
81

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1. "Squadron Supreme/JLA"
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3. "^^^ What I came in to post."
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4. "Along the same lines..."
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The Shiar Imperial Guard are exact copycats of the Legion of Super Heroes.

Peace,

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16. "Didn't Marvel have to pay for that?"
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I remember reading it in a magazine.

I don't know if they paid before introducing the characters or afterwards.

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22. "I'm not sure..."
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In fact, I'm kinda embarrassed that I had to read about it so many years later. As a Legion fan, I should have picked it up.

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2. "Blood Wulf/Lobo"
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Bullseye/Deadshot?
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5. "Wonder Man (1939)--POST OVER"
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http://www.toonopedia.com/wondrmn1.htm


i know a few people with a copy of "wonder comics #1"



p.s. there's also a character that i can't think of that is a teenage superhero just like peter parker.

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6. "i had this #1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Wonder..."
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/WonderMan-1.jpg/250px-WonderMan-1.jpg

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7. "i was gonna be surprised that someone else knew of wonder man"
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lol. at least that one isn't a blatant rip off (or at least as much as...lol)

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21. "RE: i had this #1 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Wo..."
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Take an l for what? That wasn't a bad issue.

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12. "RE: Wonder Man (1939)--POST OVER"
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>p.s. there's also a character that i can't think of that is a
>teenage superhero just like peter parker.

The new Blue Beetle?

  

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8. "there's also captain marvel"
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SHAZAM!

another superman-ish character halted by lawsuit. at least before dc bought all the Fawcett characters.

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11. "DC returned the favor - Superboy and Supergirl are ripoffs of"
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Capt. Marvel Jr. and Mary Marvel

  

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23. "actually, superboy came about 3 years earlier than captain marvel jr."
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at least the idea did. superboy was 1st published in '44, captain marvel jr. in '41, BUT superboy was around as an idea jerry seigel had since '38. dc just never liked the idea until robin came out.


you can say supergirl is a knock off of mary marvel, although honestly, it would have happened without mary marvel anyways. just a matter of time before the popularity of "superMAN" would bring about superdog, superboy, supergirl, superwoman, etc.

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25. "Otto Binder created both Mary Marvel and Supergirl...so..."
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....while a "Supergirl" was probably inevitable, DC had the same writer who drummed up Mary Marvel essentially re-create the character 17 years later.

It still counts!

  

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9. ""the punisher" is basically "the executioner""
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the executioner has been around since the 60's in marvel comics.

p.s. as you can tell, both characters are marvel characters. didn't see the rival part of the post.

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10. "Namor / Aquaman"
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17. "And Deathstroke is a Taskmaster rip-off"
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78. "And Taskmaster is balls-deep in awesomeness..."
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At least, that's my opinion of him after reading Agent X. So...if Deadpool is a copy of a copy of Taskmaster, I find it pretty impressive that he also manages to be just as awesome.

Fuck it, Deathstroke is the ish too. That fight in Identity Crisis?

Baller.

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14. "Youngblood was originally supposed to be the Teen Titans"
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Liefeld oroignally devleoped the costumes, concepts, and storylines for the Teen Titans, and when he formed Image Comics, he just created new characters to fill the roles.

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19. "Image was a bunch of rip-offs."
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didn't stop me from buying though lol.

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38. "RE: Image was a bunch of rip-offs."
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Anyone remember Fighting American? http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/a/agentame.htm

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40. "this is the end-all be-all. WOW"
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46. "look at the black guy on the left of the bottom 3 pics"
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what kind of "mask" is that?? fucking liefeld. lol

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49. "RE: look at the black guy on the left of the bottom 3 pics"
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That caught my eye too.

Liefield was a damn renaissance man when it came to stealing. He swiped stories, concepts, whole pages of art. People call Greg Land the modern version, but he's going to have to step his swiping game up if you wants to be on Big Rob's level.

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47. "LOL. I was trying to remember dude's name for this post"
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That wan't Image though. I believe Liefeld did that after he was put on Captain America as part those misbegotten "reboots" that came around post Onslaught. Marvel ended the experienment, but Liefeld decideded to keep the series going on his own line. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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48. "Yup, AWESOME Comics. Great name."
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The best part about the whole Fighting American disaster was how the Liefield fans would fight milk tooth and press-on nail to defend it. "It's not a rip-of, he was a previously existing character!"

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65. "holy shit!!!!!!!!!"
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I'm glad i missed that.

  

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15. "Batman/Moon Knight"
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Sentry/Superman

  

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20. "Would there be an Iron Man without Batman?"
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24. "?????????????"
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explain yourself here, 'cause i know you're not trying to say marvel was biting dc when they came up with iron man. completely different characters, origins, etc. only thing they share is they're both geniuses.

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29. " Iron Man is"
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A genius, wealthy, playboy with no real superpowers...right? He is not a direct rip-off, but I bet you Batman crossed Lee's mind when creating Iron Man


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30. "i don't see anything remotely resembling "rip-off""
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similarity is even pushing it. they're also both white males with strong chins, but that's just nit picking. hell, even if stan DID think of batman when coming up with iron man, it wouldn't be ripping batman off. EVERY single thing about them is different other than both being smart and good looking. bruce isn't even CLOSE to being the playboy that tony stark is. stark enjoys both lives 50/50. bruce is batman 95% of the time. it's his whole life.

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36. "bruce wouldn't have built a suit in that cave....."
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....he would have just chilled in a dark corner for as long as it took for them taliban dudes to come back, then broke all their necks in about 11 seconds

  

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37. "are the Authority an X-Men ripoff?"
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39. "No they're a Shadow Cabinet rip off n/m"
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76. "you mean Milestone's Shadow Cabinet?"
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did Milestone bite any characters?

  

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77. "Did you really just ask that?"
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>did Milestone bite any characters?


C'mon man, really.

  

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82. "RE: Did you really just ask that?"
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>>did Milestone bite any characters?
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>C'mon man, really.

LOL. It killed me how in the letter pages the Milestone Office would get upset at the Icon/Superman comparisons.

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66. "Nope. Justice League. Albeit loosely..."
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53. "This guy sums up how I feel Iron Man came about"
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Marvel Exec(ME): Alright dicknoses! Those dumbtards over at DC are killing us! They think they can just take God and slap a cape and a lame S on his chest and turn him into a character! And now they've got that Batman character who's just a normal human being with lots of money and gadgets. I want solutions. NOW!

Lackey #1: How about a billionaire playboy with no real superpowers turned superhero !

ME: That's Batman, you idiot.

Lackey #2: How about if he had a bulletproof suit?

ME: I'm not hating it.

Lackey #2: And he could fly.

ME: I love it. Get a team of writers. I want the first draft of it by Friday.



And that's how I imagine the creation of Iron Man went down. I'm probably wrong, but I've gotten used to that.





While I understand everything you said about Starks enjoying the playboy life and Bruce being Batman 95% of time...I still feel like Lee was thinking about Bruce when he came up Tony Starks


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55. "do I smell a spin-off post????????"
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59. "again, bruce wayne IS NOT a playboy"
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only similarity between him and tony stark/iron man is that they are both rich geniuses. that's not enough. i'm not trying to be an asshole, but NO.



P.S.---i just saw the last line in your post. i will say this. i can say that it is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE that stan was thinking of batman in someway. iron man WAS NOT a rip off, BUT maybe it's possible that he was at least somewhat inspired by batman. but there's a HUGE difference in being inspired by, and being ripped off of.

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62. "Look"
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I may not discuss comics on the daily like some of you, but my collection and knowledge is just as extensive as many of the COTW regulars. I have hundreds of Batman comics, so I know Bruce is not a playboy and I know that the similarities between Batman and Iron Man are subtle at best....but I also know that I am stubborn and when I was young lad the first time I saw Iron Man I thought he was a poor man's Batman and I will hold on to that thought (right or wrong) as long as I live because I have always found DC to be superior over Marvel and will take any jab at them that I can...even if I have to stretch the truth!


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63. "look bitch"
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j/k. i got nothing. finally, a fellow dc aficionado. i actually agreed with you....somewhat.....FINALLY....LOL.

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26. "If by 'Batman' you meant 'shrapnel in Tony Stark's heart', then no"
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56. "Absolutely."
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27. "Lets list the Wolverine knockoffs:"
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31. "that x-2 chick or whatever her name is (might as well be named wolverina..."
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32. "in the comics I think it was X-23, like Jordan with claws and a vag"
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45. "i had to laugh when they called her the next big character"
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maybe she will be, but she's such a rip off it would shameful. lol

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50. "RE: i had to laugh when they called her the next big character"
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I would have loved to sit in on that marketing meeting.

Joey Q - Hey have you guys seen the great new female Wolverine that they put on the X-Men Evolution cartoon? I know how we can milk this thing. We don't want to miss this chance like DC did with Static. Millions of kids are watching her every Saturday, so I say we introduce her into the comics as a prostitute!

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57. "that wasn't really a rival tho."
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and she's sorta cool. jeez. it ain't been 10 years.

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64. "not a rival company, but a blatant rip off"
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67. "More like a spin off"
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the x23s, War Machines, Scarlet Spiders, Thunderstrikes, etc are all spin-off status in my eyes.

Besides if we count x-23 as a rip-off then we have to include Supergirl, Mary Marvel, She-Hulk, Spider Woman, Lady Bullseye and all the other female counterparts of male characters.

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75. "she's not a ripoff tho...."
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she's just a female wolverine...the idea is along the same lines as Supergirl/boy, Aqualad, ravager, etc...folks just not used to seeing it at Marvel...is Spidergirl a rip off of Spidey?? they clearly show her and Wolvy are alike, she basically his daughter, but he treats her like his sis...

plus, she dope in X force

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74. "Wasn't that Lady Deathstrike?"
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33. "Legion of Superheroes / Shi'ar Imperial Guard"
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34. "Steel/Hardware"
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I think I even remember Dwayne McDuffie stating that he even pitched the basic idea for the book at DC and they turned it down.

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35. "Iron Man / War Machine in a sense"
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41. "miracle man and sentry?"
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i've never been able to actually find miracle man and read it, but don't him and the sentry have the same kind of backstory?

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42. "RE: miracle man and sentry?"
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They do have a lot in common. Plus Jenkins did bite a big moment in the Miracle Man book for the end of his second Sentry series.

Which reminds me that JMS bit the way Hyperion attacked the army in Supreme Power from Miracle Man, too.

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44. "If you look at Black Adamn, they took some Kid Miracleman stuff"
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to increase his profile. I mean they look almost identical.

Of course, Miracleman is just a rip on Capt. Marvel, so.

  

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51. "RE: If you look at Black Adamn, they took some Kid Miracleman stuff"
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That makes sense. Miracle Man was a British bite of Captain marvel to begin with.

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61. "and captain marvel bit superman"
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but of the 3, miracleman (to me) was by far the better character. yes, i just said miracleman is better than superman (personal opinion). obviously, i wouldn't say this if alan moore hadn't written the first 15 issues (15,16...whatever it was).

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43. "Green Lantern / Nova"
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Green Lantern Corps / Nova Corps

Darkseid / Thanos?

  

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52. "Doom Patrol - X-Men"
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though Doom Patrol was essentially a DC take on Fantastic Four... which in some ways was influenced by Challengers of the Unknown...

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54. "RE: Doom Patrol - X-Men"
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I always heard that they debuted too close to each other to have been a bite, then again Stan and Jack were known for how fast they could crank out a comic.

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60. "this one is interesting"
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because they both debuted the same year, but the similarities are so close (doom patrol even had a character in a wheelchair). it's impossible to tell if either one is a rip off without speaking to the creators (and getting honest answers).

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68. "Arnold Drake maintains that Stan ripped him off."
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Roy Thomas says that Stan didn't read DC comics and the (established) people at DC didn't read Marvel stuff either.

but there were enough creators flitting back and forth between the two companies and hanging out together at bars for ideas to somehow get exchanged nonetheless...

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58. "Aquaman/Namor"
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69. "^^^copycat of post #10^^^"
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...duh.

  

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71. "Apocalypse and Darkseid"
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70. "Radioactive Man vs. Radiation Dude"
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"Instead of using Radioactive Man's clever catchphrase "up and atom!" he just says 'up and let's go.'"


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72. "Cyborg (DC)/Deathlok (Marvel)"
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73. "Badrock/Thing"
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79. "Flash/Quicksilver"
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80. "Green Arrow/Hawkeye"
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81. "Superman/Supreme"
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