"Buffy the Vampire Slayer's "The Body"" Mon Oct-06-08 08:19 PM by Walleye
Sweet fucking Christ. I hadn't re-watched this until today.
To be more clear with an edit, it's episode sixteen of season five, the one where Buffy's mom died. It's like getting punched in the stomach for 45 minutes.
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4. "Even the vampire at the end doesn't do it" In response to Reply # 3
>I remember waiting for something 'Whedonesque' to break the >mood, but it never came. Just great tv.
I'd lately remembered it as the only episode where literally nothing supernatural happens, but that isn't actually the case. At the end, when Dawn goes to look at the body in the (very poorly secured, considering it's Sunnydale) morgue, a vampire wakes up and attacks her. But even then, it's a short fight set up mostly to have Dawn inadvertently pull the sheet off of her mother and then stop the episode right before she touches her face. It was the best kind of awful.
Anyhow... my wife and I had been rewatching it from the beginning the past few weeks. I'm completely embarrassed that I never even considered giving it a chance while it was originally on the air.
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6. "The conversation with the paramedic's nametag?" In response to Reply # 5
Brutal. What's remarkable is how few of the devices used to help us share the disconnect and slowness seem artificial. Like you said, it's note perfect.
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7. "So where's this one in the all-time Buffy greats?" In response to Reply # 0
The above poster had it as top-5 in the Whedonverse, which is obviously a larger field than just BtVS. But I never watched Firefly and was sort of up-and-down on Angel so I don't feel quite as comfortable weighing in there.
Among the special or different Buffy episodes, I thought this one was better than "Hush" but I think I prefer "Once More with Feeling". Though I can probably be convinced to change my mind on that latter preference.
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1. Once More, With Feeling 2. The Body 3. Conversations with Dead People 4. Fool For Love (Spike's origin) 5. The Zeppo (Xander taps Faith while the rest of the Scoobies play the background)
10. "That's a *really* good list" In response to Reply # 9 Tue Oct-07-08 01:00 PM by Walleye
>1. Once More, With Feeling >2. The Body >3. Conversations with Dead People >4. Fool For Love (Spike's origin) >5. The Zeppo (Xander taps Faith while the rest of the Scoobies >play the background)
I think I'd change the order of the last two, but "Conversations with Dead People" is one of my favorites, even with the slight flaw of apparently being unable to include Tara as herself. I think I like "The Zeppo" better than "Fool for Love". That one is about as funny as the show got.
It feels weird to not include an episode that featured Angel, and in order to avoid just ripping off your list wholesale, I'd swap out "Fool for Love" with "Amends" (3.10), which introduces "The First" and has Angel try to kill himself.
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12. "RE: That's a *really* good list" In response to Reply # 10
>It feels weird to not include an episode that featured Angel, >and in order to avoid just ripping off your list wholesale, >I'd swap out "Fool for Love" with "Amends" (3.10), which >introduces "The First" and has Angel try to kill himself.
Angel never really clicked with me. In fact, I didnt start watching his show until season 3. Even when I watch the reruns on TNT, it doesn't get interesting until halfway into season 2 ("dark" Angel vs. Dru and Darla).
"Amends" was a good ep, but the return of the First in the final season of Buffy killed the mystique of that villain/plot device.
1) Hush 2) The Zeppo 3) The Gift 4) Fool For Love 5) Innocence 6) Earshot 7) Once More With Feeling 8) Prophecy Girl 9) I Only Have Eyes For You 10) Ted
13. "Where can I find..." In response to Reply # 9
"Once More with Feeling"? If that's the musical ep., then that's the one I've missed. Every time the series has been replayed I manage to miss that one and the "Hush" ep. Any help would be gladly appreciated.
28. "I think Spike's tweed suit redeems the stupid villain" In response to Reply # 26
That must be me. Randy Giles.
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31. "I love when he pretty much describes himself as Angel..." In response to Reply # 28 Thu Nov-06-08 11:12 AM by kidkia
That shit makes me laugh every time.
EDIT: And "Spin the Bottle" just wasn't as enjoyable for me. I don't like Idiot Wesley. I like Dark Wes with the sword up his sleeve and the shotgun for the demons.
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22. "RE: Anya and Xander was my favorite BTVS couple" In response to Reply # 21
Agreed. Just when they have you thinking it's because of the differences between humans and demons, it turns out that demons DO have emotions, Anya is just..."Aud (odd)."
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24. "Frankly, it's ludicrous to have these interlocking bodies..." In response to Reply # 19
... and not interlock. Please remove your clothing now.
She was awesome. In spite of taking, rightfully, a back seat to the original crew in the last two episodes of the series she still got a another great monologue on mortality and a nice, dignified death.
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30. "While we're on the subject of Buffy...." In response to Reply # 20
Any good fight scenes between a male and female (presumably Buffy, but Faith will do just fine) that have dialogue and use no weapons or props. Or, if they do, props that can be worked around.
My roommate is in Stage Combat and has to perform a scene with a partner.
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