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Nettrice
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"i really only care about what Roger Ebert says"
Thu Oct-02-08 08:37 AM by Nettrice

  

          

if he says a film is a B i usually agree with him

so what am i going to do when Ebert no longer reviews films?

<--- Blame this lady for Nutty.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Just stop seeing films.
Oct 02nd 2008
1
hell and NO
Oct 02nd 2008
7
Form your own opinion like an adult
Oct 02nd 2008
2
OOP!
Oct 02nd 2008
4
congrats.
Oct 02nd 2008
9
*looks around for adults*
Oct 02nd 2008
8
*lol*
Oct 18th 2008
56
RE: i really only care about what Roger Ebert says
Oct 02nd 2008
3
it is what it is
Oct 02nd 2008
10
yeah no doubt.... loosing Siskel was a crippling blow but Ebert would be...
Oct 02nd 2008
5
THANK YOU
Oct 02nd 2008
11
is this some kinda thing where y'all bludgeon a GD'r w/snark upon entry?
Oct 02nd 2008
6
not a true GD'r but carry on!
Oct 02nd 2008
12
my bad, I've seen u over there & know you're not a PTP 'local'
Oct 03rd 2008
17
You complaining about snark? Cmon.
Oct 04th 2008
35
Make more money..and see EVERY MOVIIIEEE
Oct 02nd 2008
13
I agree with you...
Oct 02nd 2008
14
i have a lot of respect for his opinion
Oct 02nd 2008
15
      you lose me with saying nobody else though..
Oct 02nd 2008
16
           okay. i'll give you that
Oct 03rd 2008
24
RE: i really only care about what Roger Ebert says
Oct 03rd 2008
18
I think he's the best ever BY FAR... and I disagree with him on lots
Oct 03rd 2008
19
Yeah, the dude that thought Crash was a great look at racism is always r...
Oct 03rd 2008
20
is it not ironic though
Oct 03rd 2008
21
Too bad he can still type
Oct 03rd 2008
22
not really pay back but more of a dark comedy
Oct 03rd 2008
23
      RE: not really pay back but more of a dark comedy
Oct 03rd 2008
26
:(
Oct 03rd 2008
25
^^^ Vincent Gallo
Oct 03rd 2008
27
Did Gallo and Alanis Morrisette had a kid?
Oct 03rd 2008
28
      ... don't you think?
Oct 03rd 2008
29
      like Buffalo '66 meets jagged lil pill?
Oct 03rd 2008
30
Roger Ebert doesn't shit on films. He wants every movie to be good.
Oct 04th 2008
31
exactly!
Oct 04th 2008
32
Speak on it!
Oct 17th 2008
52
wtf are you talking about?
Oct 04th 2008
33
smh
Oct 04th 2008
34
How is that anything close to irony again?
Oct 04th 2008
36
well, I've shitted on PLENTY of movies in the past
Oct 04th 2008
38
      o_O
Oct 04th 2008
39
I really support this post
Oct 04th 2008
37
well ALRIGHT!
Oct 04th 2008
40
I love that he gave that flick four stars, when most other critics hated...
Oct 04th 2008
42
Ebert on Sugar Hill
Oct 04th 2008
41
Yeah, he's officialy lost all criticism cred
Oct 17th 2008
43
To you "his stars iz questionable" mofos
Oct 17th 2008
44
Yeah. And I mean, I've wondered that at times too...
Oct 17th 2008
45
that was just his pleacoppage saying "I have questionable taste"
Oct 17th 2008
46
Yeah, this response was totally predictable
Oct 17th 2008
47
      and the mod edit to take out the cussing so as to come off softer
Oct 17th 2008
48
           ^^^ Totally not fooled by the boolsheet (<-- not a cussword)
Oct 17th 2008
49
I don't see how this helps.
Oct 17th 2008
50
      Helps what?
Oct 17th 2008
51
      It doesn't help silence the 'his stars iz questionable' crowd
Oct 17th 2008
53
      He's just a man... his explanations are very insightful.
Oct 18th 2008
55
Ebert hates on a movie... or rather 8 minutes of it.
Oct 17th 2008
54
He's hit or miss, but Siskel was a pretentious ass.
Oct 18th 2008
57

Frank Longo
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1. "Just stop seeing films."
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My movie reviews: https://letterboxd.com/RussellHFilm/
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7. "hell and NO"
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2. "Form your own opinion like an adult"
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4. "OOP!"
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9. "congrats."
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8. "*looks around for adults*"
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WHERE?

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56. "*lol*"
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n/m

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3. "RE: i really only care about what Roger Ebert says"
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ole lemming ass.

yupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyup

  

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10. "it is what it is"
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till it ain't

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5. "yeah no doubt.... loosing Siskel was a crippling blow but Ebert would be..."
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Thu Oct-02-08 01:27 PM by PG

  

          

mortal

  

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11. "THANK YOU"
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6. "is this some kinda thing where y'all bludgeon a GD'r w/snark upon entry?"
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She was clearly making an appreciation of Roger Ebert post & y'all went in on her rhetorical question like people hit InKast with cousin-fucking comments.

This forum is strange.

  

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12. "not a true GD'r but carry on!"
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>This forum is strange.

LOL

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17. "my bad, I've seen u over there & know you're not a PTP 'local'"
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neither am I really but I roll through from time to time.

  

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35. "You complaining about snark? Cmon."
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It's the internet, man. People clown.

  

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13. "Make more money..and see EVERY MOVIIIEEE"
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14. "I agree with you..."
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I have a bunch of collections of his reviews/essays in book form, and I just bought the new Scorsese book he did.

My taste aligns with him almost all of the time...

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15. "i have a lot of respect for his opinion"
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everyone else...NOPE

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16. "you lose me with saying nobody else though.."
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I mean, Peter Travers for example is someone who I almost never agree 100% with, but my deviation from his opinion is almost always the same size (which is not very big). What I mean is, even if I know I won't agree with him wholeheartedly, I can still gauge where I'll stand because I know where and how we differ. And even with that, I still respect his craft and think he often brings value to criticism.

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24. "okay. i'll give you that"
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which is RARE for me. LOL

>I can still gauge where I'll stand because I know where and
>how we differ. And even with that, I still respect his craft
>and think he often brings value to criticism.

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18. "RE: i really only care about what Roger Ebert says"
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I always agreed with Siskel more but Ebert's on point most of the time. They were so good together cuz when one of them liked a movie enuff to give thumbs up the other would try to find faults with it rather than automatically giving an average film two thumbs up.

  

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19. "I think he's the best ever BY FAR... and I disagree with him on lots"
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of films.... but yeah, he's in a class by himself.

  

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20. "Yeah, the dude that thought Crash was a great look at racism is always r..."
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21. "is it not ironic though"
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that after shitting on so many peoples films and hard work for years

siskle died and roger ebert has cancer and cant speak


i'm not taking joy in anyones tragedy but yeah the irony here is impossible to ignore

  

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22. "Too bad he can still type"
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I mean, I really don't see how their health situations are some kind of karmic payback (or, "irony") for committing the sin of disliking movies

If that were the case, a lot of people (professional and not) would be in dire straits health-wise...
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23. "not really pay back but more of a dark comedy"
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26. "RE: not really pay back but more of a dark comedy"
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http://www.danzfamily.com/archives/blogphotos/06/425-drew-baseball-1.jpg

  

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25. ":("
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27. "^^^ Vincent Gallo"
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Fri Oct-03-08 04:26 PM by 40thStreetBlack

          

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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28. "Did Gallo and Alanis Morrisette had a kid?"
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Because this post would be it.

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29. "... don't you think?"
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30. "like Buffalo '66 meets jagged lil pill?"
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if so thanks

  

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31. "Roger Ebert doesn't shit on films. He wants every movie to be good."
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So when a movie is not good, yeah, he is upset. I've never in my experience seen a review where he seemed unfairly prejudiced going in, as if he wanted the film to be bad-- something MANY MANY other critics are sorely guilty of.

Jonathan Rosenbaum shits on movies. Roger Ebert expresses disappointment.

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32. "exactly!"
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it's like when i make the yearly trek to Ottawa for the animation and i meet hundreds of other people who love the art of animation. with Ebert i feel like i am getting a review from someone who truly loves the art of film. i don't get that sense from the other critics

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52. "Speak on it!"
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33. "wtf are you talking about?"
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34. "smh"
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36. "How is that anything close to irony again?"
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38. "well, I've shitted on PLENTY of movies in the past"
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I hope that doesn't mean God's bout to pay me back with cancer.

I mean damn. I'm sorry. I just don't like Tyler Perry's films. Don't take it out on my organs...

  

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39. "o_O"
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>I hope that doesn't mean God's bout to pay me back with
>cancer.
>
>I mean damn. I'm sorry. I just don't like Tyler Perry's films.
>Don't take it out on my organs...

LMFAO

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37. "I really support this post"
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I don't agree with his reviews all the time.

For instance, he gave both Blue Velvet and The Hudsucker Proxy two stars.

But his since of humor is great. His style is really personable, like his talking movies with his buddies. I appreciate how he comes off as extremely knowledgeable without being pretentious. And he appreciates each movie he reviews according to the context of its genre. I mean, he'll praise a movie like Letters to Iwo Jima, but he'll also occasionally nerd out on a horror flick or action movie. It's a middle ground between high brow critics and more pop-centered critics.

Again, I don't agree with his reviews all the time. Far from it. But I've been reading his reviews since I was a kid, and he's the only critic I know of where I can get a pretty fair early idea of whether or not I want to see a movie based on his review--regardless of whether he actually likes the movie or not.

I remember, after reading his review for the Fall, I went out that Friday night and saw it at the theater, and loved it. I don't know if I'd trust many other reviews like that.

  

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40. "well ALRIGHT!"
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>I don't agree with his reviews all the time.

me, neither but it's all about agreeing to disagree sometimes. i accept that a good critic expresses a reasoned judgment of work, based on an engaged and informed analysis

>For instance, he gave both Blue Velvet and The Hudsucker Proxy
>two stars.

lol. well actually i agree with his here

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42. "I love that he gave that flick four stars, when most other critics hated..."
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He gave Lakeview Terrace four stars recently too, and Miracle at St. Anna three stars. He really doesn't get caught up in the "I'm smarter than you" pissing matches that critics wage-- he simply says what he feels.

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41. "Ebert on Sugar Hill"
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http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/ebertandroeper/index2.html?sec=6&subsec=sugar+hill

see!

*it's on TVOne right now*

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43. "Yeah, he's officialy lost all criticism cred"
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as a film historian and enthusiast, I respect him, but after stumbling across this...

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080911/REVIEWS/809119989


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44. "To you "his stars iz questionable" mofos"
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Read this, then hush thine mouf:

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/09/you_give_out_too_many_stars.html
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45. "Yeah. And I mean, I've wondered that at times too..."
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...he definitely does seem to give out 4-star reviews more regularly as of late (right now, there are four 4-star films in theaters, at least in limited release), but I can't argue with his reasoning. Plus, he's just such a damn good writer that I don't care.

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46. "that was just his pleacoppage saying "I have questionable taste""
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I can still say his ratings are off after reading that and will and do.

  

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47. "Yeah, this response was totally predictable"
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Use of "pleacoppage" and all
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48. "and the mod edit to take out the cussing so as to come off softer"
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just as predictable. Him explaining why his ratings are higher doesnt convince me why I may be wrong for thinking he's too forgiving; it just cements it further.

  

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49. "^^^ Totally not fooled by the boolsheet (<-- not a cussword)"
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FOH
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50. "I don't see how this helps."
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-- "1. I like movies too much."

OK, so he admits that he likes movies more than the average person which would shade his judgement to the positive.

-- 2. Directors. There are some who make films I simply find myself vibrating with.
-- 3. I feel strongly about actors I admire, watching their ups and downs and struggles to work in a system that often sees them only as meat.

So basically, he rides for directors and actors he likes and just enjoys seeing them, regardless of whether the movie was good or not. The question is: if actors he admired were in Sex and the City, would he have liked it more? I think he would have and, to me, that's a problem.

-- "5. I have sympathy for genres, film noir in particular. I am almost capable of liking a movie simply for its b&w noir photography. I like science fiction. Ed Harris has a new Western coming out named "Appaloosa." I'll like it more than the Metacritic average. You wait and see."

I already saw and Appaloosa is a perfect example of a film that gets reviews for the pedigree more than the actual product. Liking certain genres more isn't something to brag about, it's something to guard against when printing your reviews so that the reader will know your prejudices.

I agree with #6 and #7 although I don't think Ebert always admits it in his reviews.

In the end, what he said is exactly why I don't read his reviews. They come from a very personal place and usually don't tell me whether or not the film is good or something I should spend my money on.

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51. "Helps what?"
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53. "It doesn't help silence the 'his stars iz questionable' crowd"
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He basically just agreed with most of his detractors. 1 and 4 stars are defined terrible/classic and the rest is almost haphazard since the rating could fluctuate by a star based on, not the quality of the film, but whether Ebert likes the actors, admires the director, is a fan of the genre, etc.

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55. "He's just a man... his explanations are very insightful."
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>-- "1. I like movies too much."
>
>OK, so he admits that he likes movies more than the average
>person which would shade his judgement to the positive.

Right. But he admits it, so where's the problem?

>-- 2. Directors. There are some who make films I simply find
>myself vibrating with.
>-- 3. I feel strongly about actors I admire, watching their
>ups and downs and struggles to work in a system that often
>sees them only as meat.
>
>So basically, he rides for directors and actors he likes and
>just enjoys seeing them, regardless of whether the movie was
>good or not. The question is: if actors he admired were in Sex
>and the City, would he have liked it more? I think he would
>have and, to me, that's a problem.

That's not what he said. Some actors and directors simply strike a chord with a human being. He doesn't say he likes them whether they're good or not-- he's admitting he's more likely to find those movies good because they relate to him.

>-- "5. I have sympathy for genres, film noir in particular. I
>am almost capable of liking a movie simply for its b&w noir
>photography. I like science fiction. Ed Harris has a new
>Western coming out named "Appaloosa." I'll like it more than
>the Metacritic average. You wait and see."
>
>I already saw and Appaloosa is a perfect example of a film
>that gets reviews for the pedigree more than the actual
>product. Liking certain genres more isn't something to brag
>about, it's something to guard against when printing your
>reviews so that the reader will know your prejudices.

Orrrrr you admit you have these predilections and allow the viewer to choose for himself rather than attempting to hide it and write something that isn't truthful.

>I agree with #6 and #7 although I don't think Ebert always
>admits it in his reviews.
>
>In the end, what he said is exactly why I don't read his
>reviews. They come from a very personal place and usually
>don't tell me whether or not the film is good or something I
>should spend my money on.

For me, that's exactly why I think he's the GOAT. He goes into a movie hoping to like it, and he reviews it from the POV of a man, not some uppity critic looking to drop some scathing one-liners. He still has loads of insight, even with his personal opinions, and he's never claimed to be "totally objective," because, regardless of how a critic tries, they never ever will be.

If you don't dig him, that's cool, because it's your own personal preference. That's exactly why Ebert wrote this column-- to let you know his mindset, and allow you to make your own choice. That, to me, is what film criticism should be about.

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54. "Ebert hates on a movie... or rather 8 minutes of it."
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From Deadline Hollywood:

The long respected film critic really stepped in it this week when he wrote a long negative review of a movie without revealing until the very end that he only saw the beginning of a 99-minute film before walking out. (Ebert wrote at the finish of his critique: "The rating only applies to the first eight minutes. After that, you're on your own.") Here is Ebert's own blog defense: "My editor argued that in my Tru Loved review, I should reveal in the first paragraph that I drew the line at eight minutes. I protested. That would pervert the flow of the review. Everything after would be anti-climax. What I was trying to do was recreate my thoughts as I watched the movie, and show them leading inexorably to my eventual decision. But was I placing my regard for my prose over the rights of the movie? I hope not. I hope the review truthfully records the process I went through." Sorry, but his argument is lame to the extreme. How can you base a review on 8 minutes of a 99-minute film? Most of us could name hundreds of terrific films that started out horribly. Conversely, if people had only seen the first few minutes of Godfather Part III, it would have looked like a worthy final installment to Coppolla's mob masterpiece. I think no reviewer should dare critique a film without seeing the entire film.

Here's the review
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081015/REVIEWS/810150277/1023

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57. "He's hit or miss, but Siskel was a pretentious ass."
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