6. "the one book i credit for finally turning me toward atheism" In response to Reply # 0
a great read. dude is too logical and smart for his own good. i think the main criticism ppl give me of the book is that it comes across as too arrogant, and not respectful of all the religions of the world. at first i thought ok that's a valid enough complaint, but then i thought....fuck that. Hitch is on the money, why should the book be toned down?
stravinskian Member since Feb 24th 2003 12698 posts
Mon Aug-04-08 09:07 PM
18. "Hitchens gives us a bad name." In response to Reply # 0 Mon Aug-04-08 09:22 PM by stravinskian
He just wants to play games. In that "Four Horsemen" discussion, he actually said he wouldn't want to live in a world without religion, because then he wouldn't have anybody to prove wrong.
Of course he was drunk when he said it, but that's hardly an excuse.
27. "? who's gonna take him?" In response to Reply # 25
even if u don't like his personality or the way in which he argues his points, his arguments are sound and backed up by logic, reason, science and facts. the dude is working with the truth as we know it, so who the hell is gonna take him on and actually succeed in making him look bad?
36. "did i mention the Iraq War at all?" In response to Reply # 33 Wed Aug-06-08 02:28 AM by araQual
we're talking religion ye? and his arguments are air-tight in that regard.
as for line-stepping for shock value, who cares? as long the meat of his argument is solid, which it is. his logic hasn't failed him yet far as i've seen. most ppl just seem to have a problem with him as a person. i wanna see the same ppl criticising Hitch the man attack his views on religion and god.
51. "Do you actually read his pieces on Iraq?" In response to Reply # 37
He attacks the Bush regime for being moronic thugs at every opportunity and attacks them for fucking up the execution of the war.
His stance is that overthrowing a tyrant, worthless extremist barbarians and introducing democracy to Iraq is a worthy cause that would not be accomplished through diplomacy.
52. "wrong. I wouldn't say anything if I hadn't." In response to Reply # 50
Anthem, The Fountainhead, ALL of Atlas Shrugged (yes including the Galt speech) and she's a hack writer. I don't have an issue with her philosophy. She's just...not good at writing. sorry.
__ it's 99 cents, you cheap bitch. --dula dos pistolas
read some run-of-the-mill sci-fi or detective fiction then some Rand and there's a big difference
yes she's not the most literary prose stylist but then, a) english is not her first language b) do you want to turn a 1000 page novel into a 3000 page novel?
the way she was able to communicate her philosophy through fiction was masterful. in fact it's a staggering achievement
-------------------- Why do you choose to mimic these wack MCs? Why do you choose to listen to R&B?
"There are obviously many things which we do not understand, and may never be able to." Leela
55. "There really isn't a difference in quality. Same trite characters" In response to Reply # 53
same overreliance on silly cliches.
Oh, and Atlas Shrugged might have been tolerable if it was shortened to 500 pages, cause she really didn't have 1,200 pages of material to talk about. As a work of philosophy, I don't care about it (I was actually recommended the book years ago cause ppl thought I'd agree with it), but as a work of fiction it sucks.
__ it's 99 cents, you cheap bitch. --dula dos pistolas
56. "have you heard the Hay Festival Blasphemy Debate (2005)" In response to Reply # 0
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Hitch and Stephen Fry for about an hour and a half. They don't really debate each other, they don't take opposing sides anyway, so much as discuss religion. There's a great quote in there, I forget who originally said it, in reference to the concept of God, "We are created sick, and commanded to be well".
Anyone know who said that?
I've heard people blast Hitch for about 8 years now, and I admit I haven't read much of his stuff since he left The Nation but I will always love and revere him for: No One Left To Lie To, The Trial of Henry Kissinger, The Missionary Position, & The Monarchy.
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