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"let's recast the joker (aka dear mr. nolan, do NOT rewrite batman 3)"
Mon Jul-21-08 02:19 PM by theprofessional

  

          

ledger's performance was iconic and oscar-worthy, but just because dude died doesn't mean he gets to take the joker with him. i for one, would love to see screen tests for the following actors:

ryan gosling

take his performance from the believer, mix in a little lars and you've already got the beginnings of a great joker. my wife says johnny depp, and i agree he'd be great as well. the point is, ledger's performance will likely never be topped, but then again does it really need to be? the movies aren't about the joker, they're about batman (and even the role of batman has been recast several times). even if someone brings 90% of what ledger did to batman 3, it'll still be a good enough and probably great enough performance for a comic book movie. so there's really no need for the nolans to write the best character of the new batman series out of the films forever. it's a nice show of reverence to heath's performance, but really a little ridiculous. ledger raised the bar, but let's not cancel the olympics.

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Ben Foster
Jul 21st 2008
1
This one I could actually see
Jul 21st 2008
2
i could see ben foster getting this right!
Jul 22nd 2008
40
i think you might be on to something....
Jul 23rd 2008
58
SHIA
Jul 21st 2008
3
lol
Jul 22nd 2008
34
you could have Jack play the Jokers long lost drunk uncle.
Jul 21st 2008
4
The name Crispin Glover was mentioned after a viewing of TDK
Jul 21st 2008
5
i thought about it, but he seems like he'd pass on it. oo mainstream?
Jul 21st 2008
11
      Dude was in Epic Movie
Jul 21st 2008
15
           only because he knew it was lame
Jul 21st 2008
19
                So he only does lame mainstream movies?
Jul 21st 2008
23
Someone older
Jul 21st 2008
6
also
Jul 21st 2008
7
Cate Blanchett n/m
Jul 21st 2008
8
i'd pay to see that
Jul 21st 2008
9
the only other person that realistically GO there would be depp
Jul 21st 2008
10
i came into this post to say johnny depp as well. n/m
Jul 21st 2008
13
bullshit.
Jul 21st 2008
17
I could see Gosling.
Jul 21st 2008
12
James Franco
Jul 21st 2008
14
CO-SIGN!!
Jul 21st 2008
16
now we're talking.
Jul 21st 2008
18
Nothing he did in Spidey makes me think he'd be good for this
Jul 23rd 2008
51
nobody's gonna nail that voice
Jul 21st 2008
20
No recast...
Jul 21st 2008
21
what will it be like with batman on the run? its not just villains,
Jul 21st 2008
22
I could see Edward Norton, but only if they try to recapture
Jul 21st 2008
24
I can picture Depp with that same Andy Dick-like voice Ledger had
Jul 21st 2008
25
NO Depp or Glover
Jul 21st 2008
26
Glover could have the look.....but not the voice.
Jul 22nd 2008
32
i love me some johnny, but lookit what he did to
Jul 21st 2008
27
But that was how Willie Wonka was meant to be
Jul 21st 2008
28
      dark and scary?
Jul 22nd 2008
31
           Yes
Jul 22nd 2008
39
Philip Semour Hoffman
Jul 22nd 2008
29
^^^^^^^^^thinking outside the box
Jul 22nd 2008
42
yeah I want to see that
Jul 23rd 2008
50
Daniel Day Lewis
Jul 22nd 2008
30
i don't know how the look would work....
Jul 23rd 2008
59
no joseph gordon-levitt?
Jul 22nd 2008
33
Co-sign. He looks so much like Heath. And good actor.
Jul 22nd 2008
37
i like this pick
Jul 22nd 2008
43
      RE: i like this pick
Jul 23rd 2008
53
Mark Hammil....
Jul 22nd 2008
35
i'd give him a read at least
Jul 22nd 2008
41
There's ONE reason that this is possible artistically speaking.
Jul 22nd 2008
36
The voice really is the most important part.
Jul 22nd 2008
38
you're wrong....this movie was all about the joker
Jul 22nd 2008
44
Extend that...
Jul 22nd 2008
45
BOOM - Nick Stahl
Jul 22nd 2008
46
RE: BOOM - Nick Stahl
Jul 22nd 2008
48
I want to applaud you nerds* for making me think about this
Jul 22nd 2008
47
jared leto
Jul 22nd 2008
49
Katt Williams
Jul 23rd 2008
52
I was gonna say Dave Chappelle
Jul 23rd 2008
54
      I could see Dave Chapelle doing a wild-ass Joker!
Jul 23rd 2008
57
           it'd be memorable, that's for sure...
Jul 23rd 2008
60
John McCain
Jul 23rd 2008
55
Eddie Griffin
Jul 23rd 2008
56

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1. "Ben Foster"
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I still see him as the classic film villain of his generation. I like Gosling but I see him more as a Batman than Joker.

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4. "you could have Jack play the Jokers long lost drunk uncle."
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5. "The name Crispin Glover was mentioned after a viewing of TDK"
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I'd love to see him in the mix. I'm not so sure about him playing Joker...but possibly someone else.

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11. "i thought about it, but he seems like he'd pass on it. oo mainstream?"
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15. "Dude was in Epic Movie"
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I think he'd be fine with getting to play the Joker.

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23. "So he only does lame mainstream movies?"
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He must be pissed he missed out on Grindhouse.

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Because I really think the sequel should take place 15-20 years after TDK. That's the only way you can bring in another joker and make it work even half way.
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but then again, depp would of only do it if burton directed it

  

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13. "i came into this post to say johnny depp as well. n/m"
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Most people scoffed at Ledger's casting, originally.

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I'd be interested in seeing him.

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16. "CO-SIGN!!"
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I was saying this to my friends after leaving the theater watching Dark Knight...

nothing could even come close to Ledger's performance....but I think that Franco could capture the off-beat and craziness of the Joker as well as the voice.

that said, I hope that the Joker isn't in the 3rd flick...but returns in the 4th

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51. "Nothing he did in Spidey makes me think he'd be good for this"
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He was great in Pineapple Express tho

  

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20. "nobody's gonna nail that voice"
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his pitch changed with like every other word he said
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22. "what will it be like with batman on the run? its not just villains,"
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the story change if he aint workin with the commish no more.

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24. "I could see Edward Norton, but only if they try to recapture"
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only if they try to recapture Ledger's Joker. Meaning, rather than getting someone who will give a different feel for the Joker, I feel like Ed Norton is the only one who can recapture the same character. He is a great character actor and his acting style is very fitting, IMO

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25. "I can picture Depp with that same Andy Dick-like voice Ledger had"
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Much like he had in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

  

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26. "NO Depp or Glover"
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i couldn't picture either of them playing it real/dark enough to fit into the world Nolan's established.

Ledger set the precedent of playing The Joker is a cold-blooded psychopath, not an eccentric loon.

  

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32. "Glover could have the look.....but not the voice."
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31. "dark and scary?"
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Willy Wonka was crazy.

  

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29. "Philip Semour Hoffman"
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Of course he'd have to loose some weight.

  

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42. "^^^^^^^^^thinking outside the box"
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brilliant. i don't even think he has to lose weight. PSH could be what happens to the joker after rotting in jail for a few years. older, fatter, a little slower, but twice as crazy. that would be dope.

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50. "yeah I want to see that"
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and I haven't even seen Ledger's performance yet.


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30. "Daniel Day Lewis"
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59. "i don't know how the look would work...."
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but he is another actor that is known to get deep into the psyche of the character he portrays and gets lost in the role. i think that he was be good as a actor but the look and the voice is sketchy.

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33. "no joseph gordon-levitt?"
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37. "Co-sign. He looks so much like Heath. And good actor."
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But does he look old enough?

  

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43. "i like this pick"
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absolutely could see him bringing it. very underrated actor.

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53. "RE: i like this pick"
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JG-L has chops, and we'll see how good he does as a lead villain as Cobra Commander in next summer's GI Joe.

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35. "Mark Hammil...."
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JUST KIDDING.




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http://www.myspace.com/insightclopediabrown
http://www.myspace.com/dumhi
http://www.youtube.com/group/okayplayer
http://www.last.fm/user/Dawgeatah

  

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41. "i'd give him a read at least"
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he's got the perfect voice for it.

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36. "There's ONE reason that this is possible artistically speaking."
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We're talking about a character who wore face paint at all times. As people said, you didn't feel like you were looking at Ledger, you felt like you were looking at the Joker.

As good as Heath was, I think that fact makes a recasting (which would have to be perfect, obviously) just this side of possible artistically.

  

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38. "The voice really is the most important part."
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Otherwise, I can see Depp. But just physically speaking, I don't think Depp's nicotine-damaged throat could pull off that voice.

  

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44. "you're wrong....this movie was all about the joker"
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it'll be the equivalent of putting kobe in the sixth man spot

  

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45. "Extend that..."
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...half of Batman, at least, is his Rogue's Gallery.
So I have to take exception with the idea that the movie is about Batman. Batman is reflected through the villains around him.

That said, while Heath Ledger's performance was unfukwitable, I can't swear it's the definitive Joker (so far). I will not sleep on Mark Hamill in the animated series. I think he might have been the first performer to truly nail the Joker.

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l i f e
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46. "BOOM - Nick Stahl"
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Definitely has the sinister smile for it

*edit* - I think he can pull off the voice too, no problem

  

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48. "RE: BOOM - Nick Stahl"
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if anything i could see him if they did a riddler.

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47. "I want to applaud you nerds* for making me think about this"
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You people have come up with some interesting suggestions.
Seriously.

*coming from a fellow nerd.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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49. "jared leto"
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i said this in the other post #128:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=387489&mesg_id=387489&page=#388058

i applaud this post

  

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52. "Katt Williams"
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________________________________________
"Take the surprise out your voice Shaq."-The REAL CP3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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54. "I was gonna say Dave Chappelle"
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LOL

  

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57. "I could see Dave Chapelle doing a wild-ass Joker!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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60. "it'd be memorable, that's for sure..."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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55. "John McCain"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdgrOBZDOvU

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56. "Eddie Griffin"
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n/m

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