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bignick
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"A gigantic ball of suck is coming to your TV. Crash: the series."
Mon Jan-28-08 07:54 PM by bignick

  

          

http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USN2849693120080128

Oscar-winning film "Crash" heads for TV
Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:23pm EST

By Steve Gorman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "Crash," the racially charged drama that won the Oscar for best picture of 2005, is coming to the small screen later this year as a TV series for the Starz network, the pay cable channel said on Monday.

The film's director, co-writer and producer, Paul Haggis, will lead the show's creative team as executive producer along with actor Don Cheadle, who starred in and shared a producer credit on the movie.

Starz programming executive Stephan Shelanski said there is a "strong possibility" that Cheadle will reprise his film role as a police detective for the "Crash" TV series, which he said would basically pick up where the film left off.

The series will begin shooting this spring and is expected to premiere as early as August 2008, Shelanski said. The premium cable channel, owned by John Malone's Liberty Media Corp, has ordered 13 one-hour episodes to start.

"Crash," a relatively small-budget movie, was released by Lionsgate Entertainment in 2005 and explored ethnic and racial tensions in urban America through a series of interwoven storylines and characters, with several ironic twists. Lionsgate will co-produce the TV show.

The new project would mark only the second time a best film Oscar winner has been made into a TV series. The first was the 1967 film "In the Heat of the Night," another movie with strong racial themes that debuted as a CBS drama two decades later.

In addition to its Academy Award for best picture, "Crash" earned an Oscar for original screenplay, shared by Haggis and Bobby Moresco, who also is an executive producer for the show.

Shelanski said he expected Cheadle to be instrumental in recruiting some of his "Crash" movie co-stars to join the TV series, at least for the first episode or two. Cheadle also helped line up much of the movie's cast.

The movie's all-star ensemble also included Sandra Bullock, Matt Dillon, Brendan Fraser, Terrence Howard, Chris "Ludacris" Bridges, Thandie Newton and Ryan Philippe.

"We're just going to rely on the strength of the material and the relationship that Don Cheadle and Paul Haggis had to get the original cast involved," Shelanski said. "We're talking to everybody. We would love to have as many of the cast members from this film as possible reprise their roles."

No casting choices have been made, but Shelanski said the producers were disinclined to bring back a movie character unless the actor or actress in that role could do the show.

In a statement, Cheadle said the TV series "will present an opportunity to delve into many subjects, not just race relations in L.A."

The show is the first original drama series produced by Starz, which was formed as a movie channel but began branching out into new content with the launch of two original half-hour comedies last week -- "Head Case" and "Hollywood Residential."

  

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smh @ Cheadle
Jan 28th 2008
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Is this the long awaited return of Tony Danza to television?
Jan 28th 2008
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is this really necessary?
Jan 28th 2008
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lolz
Jan 28th 2008
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I'm sure you're gonna love this new movie too Nick
Jan 28th 2008
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Oscar
Jan 28th 2008
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The Black Donnellys.
Jan 29th 2008
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      that also won an Oscar...you am mad.
Jan 29th 2008
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           Nope! Cancelled! Public spoke! You mad!
Jan 29th 2008
47
first bron beats kobe then this
Jan 28th 2008
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lmaooooo
Jan 28th 2008
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arghhhhhh
Jan 28th 2008
9
I'ma start a season post and anchor that bitch for the next year
Jan 28th 2008
10
help me understand the hatred for this movie
Jan 28th 2008
11
The search function is your friend
Jan 29th 2008
12
Fight Club >>> Crash.
Jan 29th 2008
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It can be summed up in 3 words: Racism For Dummies.
Jan 29th 2008
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"oh my God!! from his perspective, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT"
Jan 29th 2008
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I liked the movie, but Cheadle is bigger than TV n/m
Jan 29th 2008
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I liked the movie and this sounds like a bad idea to me
Jan 29th 2008
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It's a god-awful piece of shit all the way around.
Jan 29th 2008
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LOL.
Jan 29th 2008
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RE: help me understand the hatred for this movie
Jan 29th 2008
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And here I was just thinking
Jan 29th 2008
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i wonder why cheadle is going to tv.
Jan 29th 2008
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he's producing not starring
Jan 29th 2008
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      article above says he's reprising his role.
Jan 29th 2008
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           this makes my heart cry
Oct 02nd 2008
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Ladies and Germs, "big-name" actors going back to TV is no longer
Jan 29th 2008
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But for an actor like Cheadle, whose career is currently at its peak?
Jan 29th 2008
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I fail to see how Cheadle putting his name on a TV project is bad.
Jan 29th 2008
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      yeah, it's a whole new world
Jan 29th 2008
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           I agree with all of that nm
Jan 29th 2008
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                I mean, executive producing is one thing...
Jan 29th 2008
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                     What exactly does he stand to lose by appearing on this show?
Jan 29th 2008
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                          Absolutely nothing.
Jan 29th 2008
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                          I realize he'll lose nothing. This point isn't lost on me.
Jan 29th 2008
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                               I hear you nm
Jan 29th 2008
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*Looks forward to Russel Crowe in Beautiful Mind: The Series, on PAX
Jan 29th 2008
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The whole cast is back for "LOTR: The Frodo Chronicles"!
Jan 29th 2008
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Kiefer Sutherland is the biggest star on TV
Jan 29th 2008
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      Uh... that people like watching Kiefer Sutherland on TV?
Jan 29th 2008
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           no, Oprah is
Jan 29th 2008
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                What if Oprah got pregnant with Simon Cowell's baby?
Jan 29th 2008
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Cheadle is too talented for this crap...
Jan 29th 2008
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RE: Cheadle is too talented for this crap...
Jan 29th 2008
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This movie can teach you so much about race
Jan 29th 2008
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no it can't
Oct 02nd 2008
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      lol at a serious response to "TheWhiteMedia" alias
Oct 02nd 2008
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      LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Oct 02nd 2008
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this has been another positive bignick post
Jan 29th 2008
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FYI: Sneak Preview of Crash on DirecTV channel (101)
Oct 01st 2008
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Your DVR now has AIDS.
Oct 02nd 2008
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      If this show is AIDS, Dennis Hopper is the HIV
Oct 02nd 2008
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we'll have to see
Oct 02nd 2008
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1. "smh @ Cheadle"
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2. "Is this the long awaited return of Tony Danza to television?"
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3. "is this really necessary?"
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5. "I'm sure you're gonna love this new movie too Nick"
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Found this while IMDBing Lizzy Caplan's bio post-Cloverfield. It has a pretty big name cast too, with Harrison Ford, Sean Penn, Ray Liotta, Ashley Judd.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0924129/

Plot summary for
Crossing Over (2008)
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Crossing Over is a multi-character canvas about immigrants of different nationalities struggling to achieve legal status in Los Angeles. The film deals with the border, document fraud, the asylum and green card process, work-site enforcement, naturalization, the office of counter terrorism and the clash of cultures. Written by Wayne Kramer

And the LA Times says this:
"Crossing Over: Wayne Kramer's early summer release Crossing Over has shades of Paul Haggis' best picture Oscar winner Crash. Meaning, it contains all the right ingredients for awards attention: a star-filled ensemble cast, a prestige production team, and touchstone cultural and political issues. Centered on immigrants from around the world who enter Los Angeles every day with visions of better lives, the Weinstein Co. film features Harrison Ford, Sean Penn, Ashley Judd and Alice Braga. "
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6. "Oscar"
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37. "that also won an Oscar...you am mad."
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47. "Nope! Cancelled! Public spoke! You mad!"
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10. "I'ma start a season post and anchor that bitch for the next year"
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Just to keep y'all mad as shit

Better yet, fuck all that, let me get my writing samples ready, yo...
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11. "help me understand the hatred for this movie"
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i see a lot of very passionate comments from people who sincerely hate it

i dug it, i get people have different tastes, but there seems to be a special breed of disdain for this and i never understood why

anyone care to explain?

  

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12. "The search function is your friend"
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The polarizing opinions of the film have been fleshed out to death. That horse has been beaten more times than any other animal on this board other than: Tarantino/Pulp Fiction, Fight Club, and Donnie Darko.

To briefly summarize: when the film ended, I turned to my fiance and said "Fuck Paul Haggis." And she, who can find the silver lining in just about any movie, retorted "That may have been the most contrived and trite piece of shit to ever pretend to discuss race in this country." The people behind us? They were crying because the end of the film was so deep and moving and thought provoking.

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16. "Fight Club >>> Crash."
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At least Fight Club delivers its cliched message in a new way, and it goes out onto a limb with a ballsy ending. Whether or not it works is the discussion, but it was made with a "fuck everyone" spirit, not a "let's play it safe" spirit. I prefer the former, it's far more cinematically interesting, and far less unintentionally funny.

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13. "It can be summed up in 3 words: Racism For Dummies."
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15. ""oh my God!! from his perspective, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT""
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17. "I liked the movie, but Cheadle is bigger than TV n/m"
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18. "I liked the movie and this sounds like a bad idea to me"
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And if this is true:

"the TV series 'will present an opportunity to delve into many subjects, not just race relations in L.A.'"

why call it "Crash"? Why not just call it "Weekly Didactic Lesson"?



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19. "It's a god-awful piece of shit all the way around."
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Tue Jan-29-08 04:12 AM by bignick

  

          

All. The. Way. Around.

Poorly conceived. Poorly written. Poorly acted. It's one gigantic masturbatory, white-guilt alleviating turd of a movie.

  

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20. "LOL."
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43. "RE: help me understand the hatred for this movie"
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It has to be one of the most patronising, shallow corny movies I have ever seen....I was shocked at just how bad it was....films like that are for people who sleep walk through life blind folded and then discover 'wow there's racism' from a hollywood movie......shocking please god I hope no TV network in the UK picks up the TV show...


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21. "And here I was just thinking"
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that what was missing from TV was more black women molesting, yet heroic cops.

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22. "i wonder why cheadle is going to tv."
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hopefully that won't slow his film career.

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27. "he's producing not starring"
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30. "article above says he's reprising his role."
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His may just be a recurring character, but he'll be on screen too.

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55. "this makes my heart cry"
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23. "Ladies and Germs, "big-name" actors going back to TV is no longer"
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24. "But for an actor like Cheadle, whose career is currently at its peak?"
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He just got off the wildly successful Ocean's flicks, a Best PIcture winner where he was the central character, AND two critically-acclaimed flicks where he was the lead.

Has there ever been an Oscar-nominated dramatic actor at the height of his career who said "Let's do a TV series!"? I'm not being sarcastic, I just literally can't recall one.

Maybe Forest Whitaker? Or was he signed up for The Shield before Last King of Scotland? But even for Forest, that Oscar was the first big showy role in his career. Don's now had 2 leads (3 if you count Crash) in a row alongside those Ocean's flicks, and I would imagine would wanna keep that steamroller plowing along.

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25. "I fail to see how Cheadle putting his name on a TV project is bad."
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>He just got off the wildly successful Ocean's flicks, a Best
>PIcture winner where he was the central character, AND two
>critically-acclaimed flicks where he was the lead.

Absolutely. Which is why it's a bonus for this show to have his name on it. In this case, his name is currency: "from Academy Award winning actor Don Cheadle... (and Paul Haggis and nem)"

And let's all remember that Cheadle was a producer on Crash as well.


>Has there ever been an Oscar-nominated dramatic actor at the
>height of his career who said "Let's do a TV series!"? I'm
>not being sarcastic, I just literally can't recall one.

I can't recall one either, but that doesn't mean it couldn't and shouldn't be done.

I mean, Tom Hanks' career hasn't really suffered by going back-and-forth between TV and film, has it?


> Maybe Forest Whitaker? Or was he signed up for The Shield
>before Last King of Scotland? But even for Forest, that Oscar
>was the first big showy role in his career. Don's now had 2
>leads (3 if you count Crash) in a row alongside those Ocean's
>flicks, and I would imagine would wanna keep that steamroller
>plowing along.

Unless he's appearing in every episode, the fact that he's working in TV doesn't mean that the film steamroller stops.

The bottom line is, the old 80's and 90's way of thinking that TV is/was a step down in an actor's career is dead.
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29. "yeah, it's a whole new world"
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>>Has there ever been an Oscar-nominated dramatic actor at the
>>height of his career who said "Let's do a TV series!"? I'm
>>not being sarcastic, I just literally can't recall one.
>
>I can't recall one either, but that doesn't mean it couldn't
>and shouldn't be done.
>
>I mean, Tom Hanks' career hasn't really suffered by going
>back-and-forth between TV and film, has it?

Only a few years ago, TV was still considered a wasteland, where careers went to die. But for a while now the the most challenging and creative work has been on boob tube. For a minute it was just HBO, then some Showtime. Now the stuff on basic cable kicks the ass of almost anything on network TV and most movies too.

That, and Cheadle gets to exec produce?

Why he'd do a TV show isn't the question.

The real question is, why revisit Crash? I guess he owns a piece and that's that. But I'd like the think Cheadle might have some other fresher ideas for a TV show.


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32. "I agree with all of that nm"
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And I'm sure he has other TV projects in development, or at least he should...
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36. "I mean, executive producing is one thing..."
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...but I just don't get this move acting-wise. One minute, he's in talks to be a lead in a big Miles Davis biopic, the next minute he's revisiting one of his least showy roles of late on the Starz network (which isn't exactly proven territory).

The only reason I understand his interest in being in it is because then people might be more inclined to watch, and as exec producer he stands to profit.

But still, stars revisiting their role from a film on a regular TV series? I just think that's a bad look.

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38. "What exactly does he stand to lose by appearing on this show?"
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His reputation as a great actor who picks great roles? Do we really believe that the backers behind the Miles Davis Story are going to raise their eyebrows then close their checkbooks just because Don Cheadle did a few scenes for Crash: The TV Show?

Again, TV is no longer considered a "lesser" artform, and actors of all stripes are realizing that. And Don Cheadle will lose nothing by working there.
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39. "Absolutely nothing."
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40. "I realize he'll lose nothing. This point isn't lost on me."
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I just think the movie sucks, the TV show will suck, Starz prolly doesn't get through-the-roof ratings, and I'd rather see Cheadle do something not sucky.

But it ain't up to me. So make that paper, Don.

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41. "I hear you nm"
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26. "*Looks forward to Russel Crowe in Beautiful Mind: The Series, on PAX"
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42. "The whole cast is back for "LOTR: The Frodo Chronicles"!"
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28. "Kiefer Sutherland is the biggest star on TV"
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does that tell you something?

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31. "Uh... that people like watching Kiefer Sutherland on TV?"
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Also, he's not the biggest star on TV

Simon Cowell is
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44. "no, Oprah is"
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45. "What if Oprah got pregnant with Simon Cowell's baby?"
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33. "Cheadle is too talented for this crap..."
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Bad move.

  

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46. "RE: Cheadle is too talented for this crap..."
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If he wasn't too talented for the actual movie, how is playing the same character suddenly beneath him?

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34. "This movie can teach you so much about race"
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51. "no it can't"
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CRASH can teach you about how white liberal guilt clouds TRUE exposure to learning about racism and finding the tools necessary to actively question, interrogate, and change your (white people) own views of racism and, if not become anti-racist, at least be on the path to challenging your racist tendencies and those around you....


given how one-sided the film was, it doesnt teach you about racism. at all.

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53. "lol at a serious response to "TheWhiteMedia" alias"
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54. "LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL"
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35. "this has been another positive bignick post"
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48. "FYI: Sneak Preview of Crash on DirecTV channel (101)"
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DVR'd it. Not expecting anything.

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49. "Your DVR now has AIDS."
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52. "If this show is AIDS, Dennis Hopper is the HIV"
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Man, he was just too much. I made it through 20 minutes and had enough.

Although kudos for casting these two:

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50. "we'll have to see"
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i saw the advance pilot episode...

and its interesting...they're setting up some of the plot points from CRASH but the characters seem intriguing and there is some potential...


but, i would have to see a couple eps and some reviews before i committed to watching it....

but, they sure upped the nudity and graphic sex content...

and, this doesnt kill don cheadle's career..it definitely means he is versatile and if this show gets critical and awards buzz...his stock will rise even more than it is now...

but, crash had its moment, but the writing was problematic, some of the acting was horrible...the plotting was fucked up (i mean, how are the white characters being redeemed for what they've done, but the characters of color aren't? Christine (Thandie Newton) doesn't get retribution for being molested? really?)

but, i'm with ZooTown...im getting my samples together period...and, since cable shows are becoming some of THE shows to spec....

but, paul haggis is a somewhat decent screenwriter with a long career in film and tv...if this show goes past a season, hell, i'd submit for it...spec wise....

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